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Mr. BALL - You heard the shots. And how long after that was it before Gloria Calvary came up? Mr. LOVELADY - Oh, approximately 3 minutes, I would say. Mr. BALL - Three minutes is a long time. [hint, hint]Mr. LOVELADY - Yes, it's---I say approximately; I can't say because I don't have a watch; it could. Mr. BALL - Had people started to run? Mr. LOVELADY - Well, I couldn't say because she came up to us and we was talking to her, wasn't looking that direction at that time, but when we came off the steps--see, that entrance, you have a blind side when you go down the steps. Mr. BALL - Right after
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Here are a couple of templates I have set up to help myself try to get a handle on the extreme difference in perspective from two of the most debated photos. I was wanting comment from some of the more experienced photo analysts/researchers as to whether this is accurate. Hopefully some of your comments will help others like me to understand how someone we think should be in a photo, may not be, not because of editing/fakery, but because of the difference in the photographers position (POV).
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It has always intrigued me that Lovelady volunteered something to Ball that he didn't need to say until asked about it. Mr. BALL - You came into the building from the west side? Mr. LOVELADY - Right. Mr. BALL - Where did you go into the building? Mr. LOVELADY - Through that, those raised-up doors. Mr. BALL - Through the raised-up doors? Mr. LOVELADY - Through that double door that we in the morning when we get there we raised. There's a fire door and they have two wooden doors between it. Mr. BALL - You came in through the first floor? Mr. LOVELADY - Right. Mr. BALL - Who did you s
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To whichever moderator sees this: it is a new discovery of great importance, and EF members are entitled to know about it. I have not been banned; I have been put on moderation. So please, in that spirit, please get this up. Thank you. Ralph Cinque The Oswald Innocence Campaign has just discoverd something of great importance in CE 369.. We have discovered the arrow that Billy Lovelady drew on the Altgens photo to indicate himself. And it does not point to the Doorway Man, as most have assumed. Rather, it points to Black Hole Man. But first a little history: The Warren Commission asked two
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If you look very closely you will see that the shirt of this particular "Lovelady Imposter" (according to Fetzer and Cinque) was unbuttoned. See that very white, vertical "stripe" which is broader at the bottom than at the top and is closer to his belly than his neck? (It's visible just before he starts turning his head back to the right.) That's his T-shirt! Hmmm... Maybe it's really Lovelady after all! See also Chris Davidson's great Hughes' film "thumbnail" in post #63 of Dr. Fetzer's rather nauseous "Newseum Display" thread... --Tommy
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Reasoning about Doorman: The Oswald Innocence Project
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Reasoning about Doorman “When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth”. – Sherlock Holmes (A. Conan Doyle) Jim Fetzer Since there appears to be considerable confusion about reasoning scientifically in a case of this kind, the most valuable contribution I can make to the discussion of Doormån and Oswald concerns the pattern of reasoning that applies here. Having offered courses in logic, critical thinking and scientific reasoning to college students for 35 years, I am well positioned to explain the principles that apply in cases o -
What's the EF all about? Doesn't anyone care about truth?
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Tom Scully has LOCKED the Cinque/Lovelady thread and alleged that I have committed some dire offense by posting on his behalf when we all know that new admissions to the forum are virtually non-existent. I have not been spending a lot of time on this thread other than posting on behalf of Ralph, which I had not realized was supposed to be some kind of gross breach of forum policy. Until just now, I had not seen Scully's post #38 admonishing me for posting on his behalf. Egad! How serious an offense is that supposed to be, when Ralph is advancing our understanding of how the fakery was pulle -
For an extended version with many more photographs, which lays the context for this article, see "JFK Special 3: Oswald was in the doorway, after all!" http://www.veteranst...rway-after-all/ The Two "Lovelady"s Ralph Cinque Look at these two images, and tell me if it is the same man. If they are not the same man, then the entire official story of the JFK assassination falls completely apart. Everything hinges on those two individuals being the same person. If they are different human beings, then it’s all over for the Warren Report. The man on the left is Billy Lovelady, who worked