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It has been brought it to my attention that I haven't really explained how the holes punched in the Hidell money order are to be decoded. Yes, I see that I am guilty of that. So I will explain it here. It's not difficult. But first, for the record, the topic was first brought up on this forum when David Von Pein proclaimed that the "money order wasn't cashed" theory had been debunked. He and other LNers came to that conclusion when they notice that one Brian Castle had theorized that the holes were punched during the processing of the money order. They assumed that the holes were being used as a substitute for traditional bank stamps, and that this explained the absence of those stamps on the reverse side of the money order. As I will show, they are wrong. Following are the front and rear sides of the money order: You can see the tiny rectangular holes near the left end of the front of the money order. I drew straight lines through the holes, both vertical and horizontal, so it would be easy to keep them in order. And also so I could label the meaning of each row, as you will see in a moment. Here is the reverse side of the money order with my lines added: You can see that I have numbered some of the horizontal lines 0 through 9. A popular punch code used at the time was the Hollerith code, widely used for computer punch cards. Because the Hollerith code uses twelve rows, not ten, I had to add two extra lines, which labeled X and Y. It's easy to read the code once that the rows are labeled. The first number is marked by the right-most vertical line. What you do is see where that line crosses over a hole. Unfortunately it's difficult to see that particular hole. It's also difficult to see the hole crossed over by the second vertical line from the right. For now, just trust me that these first two lines cross their respective holes at horizontal line 2. So the first two numbers are decoded as 22. The next hole is easy to see. Look at the third vertical line from the right and see where it crosses its hole. It crosses at horizontal line 0. So that digit is 0, and so far we have 220. Repeat this procedure for the other seven vertical lines to get the seven remaining digits. The fourth hole is also difficult to see. It is at horizontal line 2. With that we have 2202. The remaining holes are all easy to see. The fifth line from the right crosses its hole at horizontal line 1, so we have 22021. Continuing on, we end up with the following ten digits: 2202130462 or 2,202,130,462 This is precisely the same number that is printed on the front of the the money order. It is the money order number, the equivalent to a check number. LNers may want people to believe that these holes are punched when the check is being processed, and that this somehow signifies that the money order was actually cashed. But that is simply not true. The holes merely duplicate what is printed on the front of the money order and has nothing to do with clearing of the check. The holes are punched at the same time the money order number is printed, before the money orders are even issued to post offices. You may have noticed two more vertical lines located further to the left. The first crosses two holes and this pair represents the letter P. The last (leftmost) line crosses the horizontal line labeled "Y" and this represents the "-" (dash) mark. (You need to have access to a Hollerith code table to see these.) I haven't spent any time trying to figure out the meaning of these. Finally, there are five round holes on the opposite half of the money order. At first I ignored them since five digits isn't sufficient to represent a number on a bank stamp. I thought perhaps they represented a post office routing number. But I have since spent more time on them and discovered that they actually represent the number 02145, which obviously refers to the $21.45 value of the of the money order. So in summary, the ten rectangular holes represent the money order number and are punched when the money order is manufactured. The round holes represent the price/value of the money order and are punched when the money order is purchased. I like to use the Hidell money order against LNers because it is extremely reliable evidence that Oswald was being framed as the shooter of the assassin's rifle. It's impossible for LNers to explain away how bank stamps can be missing from a canceled money order. But of course they will try.

In a new write-up just completed today, JA shows how evidence for the mail order rifle was clearly fabricated. Highlights include: * Records indicating Oswald never left Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall the morning of 3/12/63 to travel several miles to buy and mail the magic Postal money order that was never endorsed or date stamped by a bank or other financial institution. * Proof that the FBI for nearly a week (after allegedly analyzing the Oswald/Hidell handwriting on a Klein's order form) couldn't decide whether the gun cost $21.95, $12.78, or $21.45. * Proof that the FBI fabricated and often backdated numerous reports and other “evidence” about the alleged payment for the weapon that allegedly killed JFK. Original Klein's microfilm and the original postal money order disappeared while in FBI custody. * Real evidence that Dallas postal inspector/FBI informant Harry Holmes was intimately involved in fabricating evidence for the mail order rifle. CLICK HERE to read John's new write-up: http://www.harveyandlee.net/Mail_Order_Rifle/Mail_Order_Rifle.html

A collection of threads related to the Manlicher Carcano rifle order.

The Hidell money order, supposedly used to pay for the Carcano rifle, which supposedly was used by Lee Harvey Oswald to shoot President Kennedy, has no bank endorsements or Federal Reserve Bank stamps. This proves that the money order was never processed, and this is strong evidence that Oswald was being framed as JFK's killer. Lone nutters claim or believe that no endorsements or FRB stamps are needed for postal money orders. They want to see the proof. Well... Here's the proof:. EDIT: See this later post for the correct proof. The following applies to special money orders called "disbursement postal money orders." From the Code of Federal Regulations, 39 CFR 762.29 © CFR › Title 39 (Postal Service) › Chapter I › Subchapter J › Part 762 › Subpart B › Section 762.29 > Paragraph c Endorsement of disbursement postal money orders drawn in favor of financial organizations. All Disbursement Postal Money Orders drawn in favor of financial organizations, for credit to the accounts of persons designating payment so to be made, shall be endorsed in the name of the financial organization as payee in the usual manner. Source: https://books.google.com/books?id=sfQIBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA213&lpg=PA213&dq=CFR+Title+39+762.29&source=bl&ots=0yisztpk2H&sig=vHRvehU3ARSDQwLZU6hT6bfC1UQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDUQ6AEwBmoVChMIoY6KuvmKyQIVC-RjCh3s8QEt#v=onepage&q=CFR%20Title%2039%20762.29&f=false CORRECTON: The above law applies to a special type of Postal Money Order, called a Disbursement Postal Money Order. The law regarding bank stamps on regular Postal Money Orders is the same, but is published elsewhere in the Code of Federal Regulations. See this post on page 11 for details.

Here's an IBM punch card that was used in the 1960s to program computers: Here's a 1961 postal money order whose design was based on the IBM punch card: Now, here's the 1963 Hidell money order: Notice anything missing from the Hidell money order? (Or rather, not missing?) Hint: Ask Chris Newton. EDIT: I no longer believe this to be an issue. Post-1962 cards no longer used the cut-corner feature. See post 41 on page 3.