Jack Rubinstein - NYC bookie

[Greg Parker]

As mentioned in the Browder thread, I recently came across another Jack Rubenstein (referred to as RubENstein in earlier news reports). This one was a New York Bookie who used a fruit and veg shop as a cover for other operations.

In 1951 he was indicted, along with several others including a Kansas mob figure, for college basketball match-fixing.

He was sentenced in June, 1952 for the above to 2 1/2 to 5 years and was at that time, described as being 35 years old - about 6 or 7 years younger that Jack Ruby. Was this the person a number of witnesses remember as "Jack Rubenstein" dealing in weapons in Miami during the late 1950s? He would have been out of prison in time... and "our" Jack was known as Ruby from 1947.

http://www.aafla.org/SportsLibrary/JSH/JSH...01/jsh1601d.pdf.

[James Richards]

Greg,

In 1959, the Rubinstein who was the regional director of the Textile Workers Union, the one you mentioned in the Browder thread, was making some news when he slammed both the Democrats and Republicans and their labor policies. He said and I quote, "we are being given counterfeit tender by the Republican Party and short change by the Democratic Party."

Is this the same Rubinstein as the bookie?

There was also a Sidney 'Jack' Rubinstein in Dallas who was involved with a frozen seafood business called Rubinstein Foods Inc.

He died in 1965 but I believe TSBD worker Danny Arce was once employed there.

James

[Greg Parker]

Greg,

In 1959, the Rubinstein who was the regional director of the Textile Workers Union, the one you mentioned in the Browder thread, was making some news when he slammed both the Democrats and Republicans and their labor policies. He said and I quote, "we are being given counterfeit tender by the Republican Party and short change by the Democratic Party."

Is this the same Rubinstein as the bookie?

There was also a Sidney 'Jack' Rubinstein in Dallas who was involved with a frozen seafood business called Rubinstein Foods Inc.

He died in 1965 but I believe TSBD worker Danny Arce was once employed there.

James

James, The Textile Worker's Union boss was born, from memory, 1905 and died in 1989. There was a photo of him on the web (family portrait) and he actually did look like Ruby. Unfortunately the link no longer works.

A Spanish Civil Way vet, he had been involved in 1920s and '30s in a number of violent strikes and was arrested and severely beaten during at least one. From 1938 to 1940, he was involved with the Young Communist League. A guy named Edmund Stevens was on of the reporters who tried to interview Oswald in Moscow after his "defection" attempt. Stevens had also been a member of the Young Communist League. This JR also happened to know Mark Lane (he sponsored a luncheon for Lane in 1962). After Stalin came to power, Rubinstein joined Jay Lovestone in splitting with the CPUSA, and from then on, his days of being a friend to labor ceased as he suddenly preferred negotiating with companies over rank and file calls for national strikes and doing deals inimical to the interests of the workers.

There is a possible connection as well, to John Abt. Abt had been the lawyer for the Amalgamated Clothing Workers of America, CIO, in New York. This union had a close association with Textile Workers Union from the 1930s on and eventually merged in the '70s.

Due to the report by Thelma Marks to the FBI that Ruby had attended Camp Unity (a socialist summer camp in NY) and the report by Farhenbach that Ruby had been involved in communist activity in Indiana, the FBI interviewed Jack Rubenstein (the unionist). See CE 2863 and CE 3008.

Congressman Martin Dies actually wanted the NY unionist presented to prove he wasn't the same man as was locked up in Dallas.

Danny Arce testified that he had been a cook for Rubenstein and Sons which he described as an oyster place on Hall (St?).

I've also in the past, found a WWII vet named Jack Rubenstein, who later got involved in theater, and another who was a shoe store manager.

If Ruby was wanting to use an alias in Miami, why would he choose his original name? It's worth noting that neither Fahrenback nor Mack Johnson were able to ID Ruby as the man they remembered. I think it all points to them being honest regarding meeting a Jack Rubenstein - it just wasn't Ruby. I do think it's important to separate out the myriad sightings of both Ruby and Oswald to identify which can be relied upon to actually lead somewhere other than up the garden path.

Little doubt Ruby was involved in gun-running -- but more likely, imo, through Mexico.

[William Kelly]

Greg,

There's a reference to this other Jack Rubenstine in Bugliosi's book.

He says that Rubenstine helped finance Mark Lane.

I'll have to go back and look for the reference for you.

BK

[Greg Parker]

Greg,

There's a reference to this other Jack Rubenstine in Bugliosi's book.

He says that Rubenstine helped finance Mark Lane.

I'll have to go back and look for the reference for you.

BK

Thanks Bill. I think the financing was to do with Lane running for some public office or other?

[William Kelly]

Greg,

There's a reference to this other Jack Rubenstine in Bugliosi's book.

He says that Rubenstine helped finance Mark Lane.

I'll have to go back and look for the reference for you.

BK

Thanks Bill. I think the financing was to do with Lane running for some public office or other?

Hi Greg,

I went back to look it up and the other Rubenstine isn't listed in the index.

I think I read it while perusing the CD pages and now I can't seem to find it.

Will try again later,

BK