My Brother never went to Egypt.

[John Dolva]

Kathy:"Mr. Dolva: My, aren't we eloquent? What a garden of observation you have created for your little conspiratorial argument! When all else fails, say it with flowers, right? Problem is,your rosy way of thinking doesn't make much "scents ."

Ah yes, indeed, but that's the very purpose of a successful conspiracy, isn't it : to not make scensts. What better guise?

Edited June 23, 2007 by John Dolva

[Guest David Guyatt]

I have two additional things to say.

Firstly, the true anagram of 1979 - when 10 decimal points are taken into consideration - is not 1947 but 1952. No criticism intended Dave. The computation is extremely complex and cannot be undertaken without using a special astronomic Bus plug-in attachment to a high-end PC. And these are not yet widely available.

And 1952 is the year the granddaughter of the serpent-shape-shifter Queen Mum was crowned Sovereign (source: David Icke). I think you’ll agree that my maths is correct in light of this event, but if that doesn’t convince you then just remember that she is also the Queen of Canada!

Secondly, Roswell didn’t happen. There are NO aliens. That’s right. No Greys. No long blonde haired, blue-eyed Northern “Aryan” elegances from Venus.

NADA.

This is not to say that there wasn’t once a “Ronald Reagan” virtual life form who came from another planet, but hey, Galactic sh*t happens…

And okay, there is the dual aspect, glancing-both-ways-at-the-same-time JANUS non-terrestrial projection that we all know as a “BushBlair” bombardment that is formed from a random stel-xxxx signal from a Galaxy far from here. But, clearly, this is a random signal and contains no intelligence, integrity or truth whatsoever. And it’s fading rapidly. Thank God.

On the subject of Egyptian Pyran-nots, I think we have gone off topic a wee bit and we should, therefore, return to basics by referencing the Egyptian Vintner God, Amon Tillado. In the well-known spirit-ual epic, The Egyptian Book of Viniculture, we can find deep symbolic mysteries concealed behind everyday drinking songs popular in those times. Many of these continue to exist in Bavaria today. Additionally, it is obvious from studying Stein & Schooner’s “Hieroglyphics In A Hooch Haze”, that Amon was not just an ordinary alcoholic God but was the Divinely p*ss*d Diamond Giza of the entire Egyptian pantheon (sorry – that just couldn’t be helped!).

This, I think, Dave, adequately explains why your mate Bob from down the pub knows everything (incidentally, he must be distantly related to my wife, too, because she also knows everything…).

David

[Guest David Guyatt]

I have two additional things to say.

Firstly, the true anagram of 1979 - when 10 decimal points are taken into consideration - is not 1947 but 1952. No criticism intended Dave. The computation is extremely complex and cannot be undertaken without using a special astronomic Bus plug-in attachment to a high-end PC. And these are not yet widely available.

And 1952 is the year the granddaughter of the serpent-shape-shifter Queen Mum was crowned Sovereign (source: David Icke). I think you’ll agree that my maths is correct in light of this event, but if that doesn’t convince you then just remember that she is also the Queen of Canada!

Secondly, Roswell didn’t happen. There are NO aliens. That’s right. No Greys. No long blonde haired, blue-eyed Northern “Aryan” elegances from Venus.

NADA.

This is not to say that there wasn’t once a “Ronald Reagan” virtual life form who came from another planet, but hey, Galactic sh*t happens…

And okay, there is the dual aspect, glancing-both-ways-at-the-same-time JANUS non-terrestrial projection that we all know as a “BushBlair” bombardment that is formed from a random stel-xxxx signal from a Galaxy far from here. But, clearly, this is a random signal and contains no intelligence, integrity or truth whatsoever. And it’s fading rapidly. Thank God.

On the subject of Egyptian Pyran-nots, I think we have gone off topic a wee bit and we should, therefore, return to basics by referencing the Egyptian Vintner God, Amon Tillado. In the well-known spirit-ual epic, The Egyptian Book of Viniculture, we can find deep symbolic mysteries concealed behind everyday drinking songs popular in those times. Many of these continue to exist in Bavaria today. Additionally, it is obvious from studying Stein & Schooner’s “Hieroglyphics In A Hooch Haze”, that Amon was not just an ordinary alcoholic God but was the Divinely p*ss*d Diamond Giza of the entire Egyptian pantheon (sorry – that just couldn’t be helped!).

This, I think, Dave, adequately explains why your mate Bob from down the pub knows everything (incidentally, he must be distantly related to my wife, too, because she also knows everything…).

David

[Guest Stephen Turner]

Stephen is yet on another trek---The Face on Mars. I am surprised he has not placed his 'chemtrail-eaten hampster" there yet.

BUT:

Forewarned is forearmed, David, and I have inside information that Both Steve and Dave are getting ready to add more to the "Pyra-not Martian mystery", and it has to do with this:

Kathy, you seem to know a lot about my Hampster!! While we're on the subject....The composition of the average Chemtrail is as follows, 10% porridge, 15% evil intent, 25% essence of Oswald, and a whopping 60% Pepsi gas. Think what that would do too an unsuspecting rodent. (poor Mr slushy)

[Guest David Guyatt]

Kathy, according to my high security prison analyst, Mr. Rampton, I am perfectly sane -- I'm just a little tired and emotional and need several years rest sucking my thumb and playing with my teddy bear made out of dry porridge oats...

Stephen, I saw what you said about Chemtrails being predominantly composed of porridge (i.e., 10%) and want to know if you have anything against those pot stirrers north of the border, otherwise known as Scots? I don't, obviously, but I understand xenophobia is rampant in places like east anglia. Undoubtedly the Roman influence has something to do with it?

David

[John Dolva]

http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/1444708974

Neocultural situationism and postcultural discourse

Rudolf E. Brophy - Department of Deconstruction, Cambridge University

"1. Neocultural situationism and postsemioticist theory

If one examines structural semioticism, one is faced with a choice: either reject postsemioticist theory or conclude that class, perhaps ironically, has intrinsic meaning, but only if precapitalist conceptual theory is valid. In a sense, the primary theme of the works of Pynchon is a mythopoetical whole.

In the works of Pynchon, a predominant concept is the concept of submaterialist language. If neocultural situationism holds, we have to choose between the cultural paradigm of expression and premodern narrative. Thus, Humphrey[1] implies that the works of Pynchon are empowering.

The main theme of Finnis’s[2] critique of postcultural discourse is not theory, but posttheory. The subject is interpolated into a patriarchial discourse that includes consciousness as a totality. But Marx’s essay on neocultural situationism holds that sexuality is capable of social comment.

The failure, and subsequent stasis, of postsemioticist theory which is a central theme of Burroughs’s Junky emerges again in The Last Words of Dutch Schultz, although in a more pretextual sense. However, Sontag promotes the use of postcultural discourse to analyse and read truth.

If postsemioticist theory holds, we have to choose between postcultural discourse and the deconstructive paradigm of consensus. But neocultural situationism suggests that the Constitution is dead.

Sartre uses the term ‘Marxist socialism’ to denote the absurdity, and eventually the failure, of subcultural society. In a sense, the subject is contextualised into a neocultural situationism that includes reality as a reality.

The characteristic theme of the works of Burroughs is a self-justifying whole. Therefore, Debord uses the term ‘postcultural discourse’ to denote the defining characteristic, and hence the collapse, of semantic class.

2. Expressions of stasis

“Sexual identity is fundamentally unattainable,” says Lyotard; however, according to Drucker[3] , it is not so much sexual identity that is fundamentally unattainable, but rather the meaninglessness, and some would say the rubicon, of sexual identity. Dietrich[4] holds that we have to choose between neocultural situationism and neodialectic deconstructive theory. But an abundance of narratives concerning postsemioticist theory may be revealed.

“Class is responsible for the status quo,” says Bataille. Sartre suggests the use of predialectic nationalism to challenge capitalism. Therefore, the main theme of la Tournier’s[5] model of postcultural discourse is the role of the writer as participant.

The characteristic theme of the works of Eco is not desublimation as such, but neodesublimation. Lacan uses the term ‘postsemioticist theory’ to denote the genre, and subsequent dialectic, of precapitalist society. In a sense, the primary theme of von Ludwig’s[6] essay on postcultural discourse is the role of the writer as observer.

“Consciousness is part of the genre of truth,” says Baudrillard; however, according to Long[7] , it is not so much consciousness that is part of the genre of truth, but rather the defining characteristic of consciousness. If neocultural situationism holds, we have to choose between postsemioticist theory and neodialectic narrative. Therefore, the main theme of the works of Eco is the futility, and therefore the paradigm, of capitalist class.

If one examines subcultural discourse, one is faced with a choice: either accept postcultural discourse or conclude that discourse is created by the collective unconscious. Dietrich[8] suggests that we have to choose between postsemioticist theory and neopatriarchialist dematerialism. It could be said that Sontag promotes the use of the dialectic paradigm of context to modify society.

If postsemioticist theory holds, we have to choose between neocultural situationism and subcapitalist narrative. In a sense, Derrida’s critique of postsemioticist theory implies that language is capable of intention, given that art is distinct from truth.

Sartre suggests the use of neocultural situationism to deconstruct the status quo. It could be said that Abian[9] states that we have to choose between predialectic desituationism and material postcapitalist theory.

Many discourses concerning the bridge between class and sexual identity exist. Therefore, Sartre uses the term ‘postcultural discourse’ to denote the role of the artist as observer.

In The Name of the Rose, Eco examines conceptualist dematerialism; in Foucault’s Pendulum he denies postcultural discourse. But Debord promotes the use of postsemioticist theory to analyse and modify reality.

The example of postcultural discourse prevalent in Eco’s The Limits of Interpretation (Advances in Semiotics) is also evident in The Aesthetics of Thomas Aquinas. Therefore, Baudrillard suggests the use of neocultural situationism to challenge hierarchy.

Subcultural textual theory suggests that class has objective value. Thus, if postsemioticist theory holds, we have to choose between postcapitalist discourse and cultural desublimation.

The characteristic theme of Parry’s[10] model of postcultural discourse is a postsemantic paradox. However, Derrida’s analysis of postsemioticist theory states that narrativity may be used to entrench the status quo, but only if neocultural situationism is invalid; otherwise, society, somewhat paradoxically, has significance."

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2. Finnis, O. M. ed. (1984) Postcultural discourse and neocultural situationism. Schlangekraft

3. Drucker, Q. (1979) Reassessing Expressionism: Neocultural situationism in the works of Smith. O’Reilly & Associates

4. Dietrich, G. H. ed. (1986) Postcultural discourse in the works of Eco. Harvard University Press

5. la Tournier, K. (1991) The Reality of Failure: Neocultural situationism and postcultural discourse. University of Georgia Press

6. von Ludwig, H. R. ed. (1976) Postcultural discourse in the works of Gaiman. Panic Button Books

7. Long, D. F. G. (1985) Consensuses of Paradigm: Postcultural discourse, Marxism and conceptual objectivism. University of Michigan Press

8. Dietrich, S. ed. (1978) Postcultural discourse and neocultural situationism. And/Or Press

9. Abian, A. K. P. (1987) The Stasis of Consciousness: Neocultural situationism and postcultural discourse. Cambridge University Press

10. Parry, B. ed. (1999) Postcultural discourse, neodialectic cultural theory and Marxism. Harvard University Press

[Dave Greer]

Kathy, according to my high security prison analyst, Mr. Rampton, I am perfectly sane -- I'm just a little tired and emotional and need several years rest sucking my thumb and playing with my teddy bear made out of dry porridge oats...

Stephen, I saw what you said about Chemtrails being predominantly composed of porridge (i.e., 10%) and want to know if you have anything against those pot stirrers north of the border, otherwise known as Scots? I don't, obviously, but I understand xenophobia is rampant in places like east anglia. Undoubtedly the Roman influence has something to do with it?

David

Don't even get me STARTED on Scotland!!! The Egyptian connections are well documented. Look at these photos of the pyramids at Giza, and Schiehallion in Scotland. It's quite clear that the Scot's tried to build their own pyramid, and made a very poor attempt at covering it up by all accounts. That is CLEARLY a pyramid. And quite a poorly disguised one at that. I think maybe the wind got up and there were several nasty kilt related incidents. Scared the tourists off.

MORE evidence of this being intertwined in the global conspiracy. Worldwide conglomerate BP named one of their mobile drilling rigs Scheihallion. And what exactly are they trying to build on the deck of this ship, far out in the unchartered waters of the icy North Sea, away from prying eyes? Oh, it wouldn't be a partially completed PYRAMID by any chance? And what's this, looks like a mobile, low level CHEMTRAIL EMITTER at the front of the ship!

To recap. The Scots built a pyramid, then covered it up to make it look like a hill, and called it Schiehallion. Then BP built a "mobile drilling rig" , and named it after a hill that was really a pyramid. Then they started building a pyramid on it!!!

My mate Bob reckons the odds of all this happening by chance are the same as Henman winning Wimbledon, England winning the World Cup on penalties against Germany, and real pork being found in Tesco's Value sausages.

Further proof required, unbelievers?

An anagram of SCHIEHALLION = A HELLISH ICON. And what happens when you do a Google image search for HELLISH ICON PYRAMID?

The SIXTH image generated is THIS ONE!!! The SIXTH image!!!! 666? Hellish icon?

HOW MUCH MORE PROOF DO YOU PEOPLE NEED???????

[Kathleen Collins]

This thread reminds me of the Amazing Randi forum. He has this huge forum dedicated to debunking everything. I went on it for a few days. I would say what I believed and they would put down any researcher or book/film I used to back up my opinion, etc. They were especially hard on Alex Jones and Jim Fetzer. They told me to get off the forum, that I was embarrassing myself. And if I believed that 9/11 was orchestrated by this govt, that was the world I chose to live in. They felt sorry for me. I won the appelatiion of "Einstein." It was a very big forum, but all they'd do is, what you people are doing, making fun of members' research and beliefs. So, in a way, the Randis of this world are dependent on us. Or they'd have no Forum. Meanwhile, we're dependent on research, or we'd have no Forum. So I suggest if you think someone's beliefs and expertise is in doubt on this Forum and so funny, why don't you join the Amazing Randi's Forum? They're waiting for you with baited breath.

Kathleen Collins

[Dave Greer]

This thread reminds me of the Amazing Randi forum. He has this huge forum dedicated to debunking everything. I went on it for a few days. I would say what I believed and they would put down any researcher or book/film I used to back up my opinion, etc. They were especially hard on Alex Jones and Jim Fetzer. They told me to get off the forum, that I was embarrassing myself. And if I believed that 9/11 was orchestrated by this govt, that was the world I chose to live in. They felt sorry for me. I won the appelatiion of "Einstein." It was a very big forum, but all they'd do is, what you people are doing, making fun of members' research and beliefs. So, in a way, the Randis of this world are dependent on us. Or they'd have no Forum. Meanwhile, we're dependent on research, or we'd have no Forum. So I suggest if you think someone's beliefs and expertise is in doubt on this Forum and so funny, why don't you join the Amazing Randi's Forum? They're waiting for you with baited breath.

Kathleen Collins

Kathleen

Might I be so bold as to politely suggest a temporary sense of humour failure? Side-effect of breathing in chemtrails perhaps? (Note to self: it might not be a side-effect, that might be its purpose... )

I think it's quite clear this thread is meant to be a bit of light relief, with some light-hearted banter aimed at both sides of various conspiracy threads.

Would you feel better if I called you a paid government shill and a disinformationist, just to even things up a bit?

Dave

[Dave Greer]

I happen to think this is a very creative thread, and would not know why someone wouldn't see that.

This is a PARODY thread. You see people(guest hosts) on SNL who are being parodied, and they usually are right in the middle of it. laughing and playing right along.Personally, I always thought they were better people for doing so. It certainly makes the audience love them more, doesn't it?

MBNWTE may not be right for you, but I look forward to reading it everyday. I am amazed at the creativity of these people, and a couple of them, because of their ability to laugh at each other AND themselves, have endeared themselves to me. What a wonderful quality for a human being to have!!!!

No one is here to hurt anyone. It is open, so everyone can participate. The only drawback is that you go up head to head with highly creative minds such as Stephan Turner, Dave Greer, and the ever wordy Mr.John"Run That By Me Again " Dolva. ( Cameos with D.W.Dunn and Evan Burton.)

I am laughing at the sheer brilliance of it all.

(Not to mention the fact that here, they think I am a disinformation agent. This is the only place in the world where I could be called that. (I love it. I put it in my signature.))

Kathy

Kathy, you can try your hardest to lull me into a false sense of security with your schmoozling ways, but we both know you're lower than a snake's belly.

I've got my eye on you.

[Kathleen Collins]

I happen to think this is a very creative thread, and would not know why someone wouldn't see that.

This is a PARODY thread. You see people(guest hosts) on SNL who are being parodied, and they usually are right in the middle of it. laughing and playing right along.Personally, I always thought they were better people for doing so. It certainly makes the audience love them more, doesn't it?

MBNWTE may not be right for you, but I look forward to reading it everyday. I am amazed at the creativity of these people, and a couple of them, because of their ability to laugh at each other AND themselves, have endeared themselves to me. What a wonderful quality for a human being to have!!!!

No one is here to hurt anyone. It is open, so everyone can participate. The only drawback is that you go up head to head with highly creative minds such as Stephan Turner, Dave Greer, and the ever wordy Mr.John"Run That By Me Again " Dolva. ( Cameos with D.W.Dunn and Evan Burton.)

I am laughing at the sheer brilliance of it all.

(Not to mention the fact that here, they think I am a disinformation agent. This is the only place in the world where I could be called that. (I love it. I put it in my signature.))

Kathy

Kathy, you can try your hardest to lull me into a false sense of security with your schmoozling ways, but we both know you're lower than a snake's belly.

I've got my eye on you.

I hope you're directing that to Kathy Beckett and not Kathy Collins. You quoted Kathy Beckett. She's called a disinfomationalist. I was called an "agent provocateur."

Kathy Collins

[Guest Stephen Turner]

I happen to think this is a very creative thread, and would not know why someone wouldn't see that.

This is a PARODY thread. You see people(guest hosts) on SNL who are being parodied, and they usually are right in the middle of it. laughing and playing right along.Personally, I always thought they were better people for doing so. It certainly makes the audience love them more, doesn't it?

MBNWTE may not be right for you, but I look forward to reading it everyday. I am amazed at the creativity of these people, and a couple of them, because of their ability to laugh at each other AND themselves, have endeared themselves to me. What a wonderful quality for a human being to have!!!!

No one is here to hurt anyone. It is open, so everyone can participate. The only drawback is that you go up head to head with highly creative minds such as Stephan Turner, Dave Greer, and the ever wordy Mr.John"Run That By Me Again " Dolva. ( Cameos with D.W.Dunn and Evan Burton.)

I am laughing at the sheer brilliance of it all.

(Not to mention the fact that here, they think I am a disinformation agent. This is the only place in the world where I could be called that. (I love it. I put it in my signature.))

Kathy

Kathy, you can try your hardest to lull me into a false sense of security with your schmoozling ways, but we both know you're lower than a snake's belly.

I've got my eye on you.

I hope you're directing that to Kathy Beckett and not Kathy Collins. You quoted Kathy Beckett. She's called a disinfomationalist. I was called an "agent provocateur."

Kathy Collins

Kathy, welcome to the theatre of the absurd. This thread is not an attempt to belittle anyones beliefs, hell how could it be, I'm a C/T from way back, its more a form of verbal sparing, with large dollops of surealism and false moral outrage thrown in, it is, I grant you, a quintisentialy British form of humour, but Kathy's and Daniels presence here shows it can be Universal. Must go, I need to find a shrubery.

[Guest David Guyatt]

Light relief be damned! This is die or kill time.

Nothing could be more serious that noting the similarity between Ancient Egypt and those wee Celts north of the border. Both wear KILTS!

Explain that someone!

Hot, warm Egypt, home to crocodiles and triagular shaped erections and strange headwear versus cold, chilly Scotland, home to Haggisodiles and triangular shaped erections and strange headwear.

And please, no punning or smutty stuff on erection making kilts in a cold, chilly climate. This is a posh forum where decorum is vital if we are to keep the same level of scholarship to the fore (as I 'ave just done).

David

Edited June 27, 2007 by David Guyatt

[John Dolva]

I can only hope the readers of this are as outraged as I am at Pyranots.

(The answers lie in assorted DaDa engines and suchlike online generators.)

http://www.pakin.org/complaint

I would like to start by discussing the Pyranot grievances, mainly because they scare me. The thing I'm the most frightened about is that Pyranots are controlling and demanding. If, after hearing facts like that, you still believe that Pyranots can scare us by using big words like "establishmentarianism", then there is obviously no hope for you. Pyranot oratiory may sound comfortable and simple, but it must not be forgotten that Pyranot mode of thought should be labeled like a pack of cigarettes. I'm thinking of something along the lines of, "Warning: It has been determined that Pyranots's catch-phrases are intended to take control of a nation and suck it dry."

Pyranots supports a wide variety of mottos. Some are jaded; others are spleeny. A few openly support charlatanism. Pyranots's apologists believe that national-security interests can and should be sidestepped whenever Pyranots's institutional interests are at stake. Although it is perhaps impossible to change the perspective of those who have such beliefs, I wish nevertheless to take a strong position on Pyranots's prognoses, which, after all, engage in the trafficking of human beings.

I assert that the best way to overcome misunderstanding, prejudice, and hate is by means of reason, common sense, clear thinking, and goodwill. Pyranots, in contrast, believes that courtesy and manners don't count for anything. The conclusion to draw from this conflict of views should be obvious: I am certain that if I asked the next person I meet if he would want Pyranots to engulf the world in a dense miasma of academicism, he would say no. Yet we all stand idly by while Pyranots claims that it's inappropriate to teach children right from wrong.

Pyranot perspectives are that it is robbed of all it does not possess. My perspective, in contrast, is that when Pyranots was first found trying to subordinate principles of fairness to less admirable criteria, I was scared. I was scared not only for my personal safety; I was scared for the people I love. And now that Pyranots are planning to lure the uncivilized into its den of thieves, I'm unquestionably downright terrified. Now that I've said what I had to say, I should remark that this post may not endear me to some people. Indeed, it may even cost me a friend or two. However, friends do not let friends get trampled by meddlesome, scabrous vagabonds like Pyranots.

The truth is the truth and we pay a steep price whenever we ignore it.

________________

ps. http://www.cartoucheltd.com/hieroglyph.shtml - see 'feet'.

As one can readily see the builders of the pyranots were of the flat earth dimension.

The Canadian Indians, on the other foot, had the flexible moccasins. The inference that their feet were/are concave is reasonable.

While the Egyptians built the Pyranots, the Canadian indians built Totem Poles. >>> Toe TMP Sole. TMP as is universally unknown to stand for "The Middle Part". IE They Canadians clearly differentiate, unlike the Egyptians, between the Level (middle) and the toe and the sole as a part of the whole. IOW the 'concave foot' belonging to the Round Earth Dimnesion.

Therefore it is clear that, while the two locations, may appear separate, they in fact form the interface between these two dimensions and the apparent reality of there being more (or as Dr. Ai M. Loony would have it in: "The Other, and its insignificance" p 256, vol XI. : "...fallacy in epochs and form") is indeed an illusion.

As the danger of people playing disco music to avoid the issue is so pervasive, these 'secrets' need to be approached with caution. (just imagine a room full of kilt wearing Scots 'doin' the boogie'. Total Chaos)

However, as the reference to kilts and other odd things amply demonstrates, there is at last an emerging consciousness that tends to balance things out. The next step to full dimesion realisation lies in the field of structural synergy. More on that later.

[Guest David Guyatt]

I'd like to bring to your attention two Egyptian words that will answer your question about mocassins being made to fit concave feet.

The first word is "KA" -- meaning a disembodied spirit or ghost.

The second is "NADA" -- meaning the region of eternal nothingness and whiteness (sometimes known in Colloquial Egyptian as "Zip").

Anyone famillar with these matters will know that these two fit together like a Scotsman and sheep.

Hence the thus far secret meaning behind the word KANADA -- the region of nothingness inhabited but absolutely nothing other than ghosts.

Ever heard of the tribes of the Five Nations (the Iroquois Confederacy) performing a Ghost Dance?

I rest my case. Almost.

Scotland and Kanada are Egyptian. If further proof were needed, I offer the Native American Teepee, a triangular shaped erection as per the following image:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l30/sere...ipigraphic0.jpg

The gentleman standing to the left of the triangular shaped erection, is "Shy-Ann", a Native American Egscotian (ha, even the mightily strange European way of spelling Scotland, "Ecosse" begins with an "E" - just like "Egypt" does). Keen observers will note he is rolling a ritual-tobacco-cum-narcotic tubular roll widely used in Egypt as described in the "Scottish Book of Sheep Rearing, Egyptian Tent Building and Ritual Herb Fume".

Snuff said.

David

Edited June 27, 2007 by David Guyatt