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Yeah, then disappeared him for decades. I think the hands skeleton was part of id'ing him (as were the fingerprints sent to Argentina.) Pity it's not Rodrriguez, he owes somebody the Rolex he took off Che. Did you know Panama (as of a few days ago) and a number of other countries have warrants out for the Terrorist Posada.

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Yeah, then disappeared him for decades. I think the hands skeleton was part of id'ing him (as were the fingerprints sent to Argentina.) Pity it's not Rodrriguez, he owes somebody the Rolex he took off Che. Did you know Panama (as of a few days ago) and a number of other countries have warrants out for the Terrorist Posada.

First, Felix doesn't owe anyone a Rolex, Che paid for it in full with blood money, secondly, I don't know why everyone calls Luis a terrorist, I've met him, he's down to earth, truthful and honest, there is a big difference between a terrorist and a Patriot when you are fighting for the freedom of your people. What about Castro sending his men to locate and kill Posada, don't let Castro's humanity BS talk have you beleive in the good for all man kind. That's Bull Sh*t, Castro is a killer, he's nothing like John Kennedy and never really wanted peace with Kennedy, he's a xxxx, and Castro is going down this year.

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Well, there must be some reason why 'everybody' does.

I agree with this part : there is a difference between a terrorist and a patriot when you are fighting for the freedom of your people.

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I'll take your word for it.

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I don't know why everyone calls Luis a terrorist, I've met him, he's down to earth, truthful and honest, there is a big difference between a terrorist and a Patriot when you are fighting for the freedom of your people.

Of course, this is the same argument put forward by terrorists in Afghanistan. I am afraid everybodies "terrorist" is always someone's "freedom fighter". The fact that he is "down to earth, truthful and honest" is completely irrelevant. Even Hitler was kind to dogs.

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I don't know why everyone calls Luis a terrorist, I've met him, he's down to earth, truthful and honest, there is a big difference between a terrorist and a Patriot when you are fighting for the freedom of your people.

Of course, this is the same argument put forward by terrorists in Afghanistan. I am afraid everybodies "terrorist" is always someone's "freedom fighter". The fact that he is "down to earth, truthful and honest" is completely irrelevant. Even Hitler was kind to dogs.

You are comparing Hitler to Luis? If Hitler and Castro had they're way we would ALL live under a dictator, under communism, the very blanket Luis was fighting against. He and my father fought for freedom, not communism.

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I don't know why everyone calls Luis a terrorist, I've met him, he's down to earth, truthful and honest, there is a big difference between a terrorist and a Patriot when you are fighting for the freedom of your people.

Of course, this is the same argument put forward by terrorists in Afghanistan. I am afraid everybodies "terrorist" is always someone's "freedom fighter". The fact that he is "down to earth, truthful and honest" is completely irrelevant. Even Hitler was kind to dogs.

You are comparing Hitler to Luis? If Hitler and Castro had they're way we would ALL live under a dictator, under communism, the very blanket Luis was fighting against. He and my father fought for freedom, not communism.

Scott,

Your father died when you were very young. Maybe this isn't the best place for you to work out and attempt to resolve issues you did not have the opportunity to work out with your father. Consider that you have some of us at a disadvantage because of our empathetic allowances for the intensely emotional and other personal foundations for your resolute expression of your political beliefs.

Consequently, I know I am pulling my punches and I am guessing John was, too. You react though, as if John was coming at you. You need to understand that some of us consider your political opinions to be extremist and simplistic. For every political action, there is a reaction. Your politics would seem to condemn 80 percent of the Venezuelan population, by the US. State Department's own 2001 description, to lifelong poverty. This is probably heresy to you, but an unprecedented economic transformation has taken place in Venezuela, via political changes you seem to embrace murder on a widespread scale, to oppose, halt, slowdown, impede, overturn.:

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/35766.htm

September 2, 2011 Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs [Flag of Venezuela]

"Background Note: Venezuela

........

The Caracazo and Popular Dissatisfaction

Venezuela's prevailing political calm came to an end in 1989, when Venezuela experienced riots in which 200 people were reportedly killed in Caracas. The so-called “Caracazo” was a response to an economic austerity program launched by then-President Carlos Andres Perez. Three years later, in February 1992, a group of army officers led by then-Lt. Col. Hugo Chavez mounted an unsuccessful coup attempt, claiming that the events of 1989 showed that the political system no longer served the interests of the people. Chavez was convicted of rebellion and jailed for his role in the coup, but was released in 1994. A second unsuccessful coup attempt by other officers affiliated with Chavez followed in November 1992, while Chavez remained in jail. A year later, Congress impeached Perez on corruption charges.

Deep popular dissatisfaction with the traditional political parties, income disparities, and economic difficulties were some of the major frustrations expressed by Venezuelans following Perez's impeachment. In December 1998, Hugo Chavez Frias won the presidency on a campaign for broad reform, constitutional change, and a crackdown on corruption.....

ECONOMY

The Venezuelan Government dominates the economy. There is considerable income inequality. The Gini coefficient was 0.39 in the second half of 2009. According to government statistics, the percentages of poor and extremely poor among Venezuelan households were 23.8% and 5.9%, respectively, in the second half of 2009. Real GDP contracted 3.3% in 2009, indicating a decrease in government expenditures and private consumption as a result of a drop in oil prices. The economic contraction continued in 2010 when real GDP decreased by 3.5% during the period January-June 2010 compared with the same period of 2009. The Consumer Price Index increased by 27.9% from September 2009 to September 2010, following increases of 25.1% in 2009, 30.9% in 2008, and 22.5% in 2007.

The state oil company, PDVSA, controls the petroleum sector. Government companies control the electricity sector and important parts of the telecommunications and media sectors. In 2008, the government nationalized cement and steel producers, as well as select companies in the milk and meat distribution sectors. In 2009 it nationalized assets in the oil (including assets owned by U.S. oil services companies), chemicals, tourism, agribusiness (including a processed rice plant owned by a U.S. company), retail, and banking industries. In 2010, the government nationalized companies in the agricultural and construction sectors as well as U.S. assets in the petrochemical and packaging industries. A number of U.S. companies whose assets have been nationalized in Venezuela have chosen to pursue their claims through international arbitration. Threats of continuing nationalizations, as well as other threats to property rights and an uncertain macroeconomic environment characterized by high inflation and foreign exchange controls, have led to reduced space for the private sector and low levels of private investment...."

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http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/35766.htm

February 25, 2010 Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs [Flag of Venezuela]

...There is considerable income inequality. The Gini coefficient was 0.41 in the first half of 2009. According to government statistics, the percentages of poor and extremely poor among Venezuelan households were 26.4% and 6.9%, respectively, in the first half of 2009.

http://web.archive.org/web/20080708234050/www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/35766.htm

Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs

June 2008 Background Note: Venezuela

..There is considerable income inequality. The Gini coefficient was 0.42 during 2007. According to government statistics, the percentages of poor and extremely poor among Venezuelan population were 27.5% and 7.6%, respectively, for the first half of 2007.

Although economic growth has been impressive, as a result of the oil windfall, many in the Venezuelan business community remain very concerned about President Chavez' vision for "21st Century Socialism" and what it portends for the private sector. ...

http://web.archive.org/web/20080604015404/www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/35766.htm

Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs

October 2007 Background Note: Venezuela

...There is considerable income inequality. The Gini coefficient was 0.45 during 2006. According to government statistics, the percentages of poor and extremely poor among Venezuelan population were 33.9% and 23.2%, respectively, in 2006. These high ratios are due primarily to lower real wages earned by employees, and high rates of un- and underemployment...

http://web.archive.org/web/20070109215630/www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/35766.htm

Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs

November 2006 Background Note: Venezuela

...There is considerable income inequality. The Gini coefficient was 0.514 during 2005. According to private sources, the percentages of poor and extremely poor among Venezuelan population were 67% and 35%, respectively, in 2005. These high ratios are due primarily to lower real wages earned by employees, and high rates of un- and underemployment...

http://web.archive.org/web/20060104061341/www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/35766.htm

Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs

November 2005 Background Note: Venezuela

...There is considerable income inequality. The Gini coefficient was 0.618 during 2003. According to private sources, the percentages of poor and extremely poor among Venezuelan population were 74.6% and 39.3%, respectively, in 2003. These high ratios are due primarily to lower real wages earned by employees, and high rates of un- and underemployment....

http://web.archive.org/web/20050105004312/www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/35766.htm

Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs

November 2004 Background Note: Venezuela

...There is considerable income inequality. According to official sources, the percentage of poor and extremely poor among Venezuelan population increased from 39.4% in 1995 to 48.1% in 2002. This increase has been due primarily to lower real wages earned by employees and increased unemployment...

http://web.archive.org/web/20030212135429/www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/1859.htm

Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs

April 2001 Background Note: Venezuela

...The government is hopeful that the economic reforms established in the new constitution would help stimulate the economy in 2001. The government is drafting new legislation concerning the conduct of the Central Bank, social security, land distribution, social security, and pensions. These laws are designed to meet the high level of expectations of the Venezuelan people who have faced declining real income for much of the last two decades. Although most Venezuelans still have a higher standard of living than their Andean neighbors, there is considerable income inequality. By Venezuelan standards ($700/month for a family of five), almost 80% of the population lives below the poverty line. The government faces a difficult task in meeting these expectations in a reasonable amount of time....

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Scott,

Your father died when you were very young.

Lets get the facts straight, my father was killed when I was thirteen

Maybe this isn't the best place for you to work out and attempt to resolve issues you did not have the opportunity to work out with your father.

Please enlighten me Tom, what issues are you talking about? What issues do you think I have not worked out with my father?

Consider that you have some of us at a disadvantage because of our empathetic allowances for the intensely emotional and other personal foundations for your resolute expression of your political beliefs.

Okay! Whatever!

You react though, as if John was coming at you.

Because I said, "You are comparing Hitler to Luis?"... Please tell me what I said that made me think John was attacking me? Or in your words coming at me. I had no idea you read minds too.

You need to understand that some of us consider your political opinions to be extremist and simplistic.

Well, lets see, you talk about Venezuelan. I'm going to also use Cuba as an example, the "president" of Cuba calls himself Dr. Castro, the "president" of Venezuelan calls himself president, the problem I have politically is that neither is a president they are dictators or rulers of their country that forms to a state that is controlled by the police and not the people, they are forced to live how they are told to live or the people will be charged with treason, shot and killed. Hugo Chavez who calls himself president has been sense 1999 that's thirteen years, that's not a president, that's a dictator. Chavez has been a prominent opponent of the United States' foreign policy.[1] Allying himself strongly with the socialist governments of Fidel and then Raul Castro in Cuba, Evo Morales in Bolivia, Rafael Correa in Ecuador and Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua, his presidency is seen as a part of the leftist "pink tide" sweeping Latin America. You say we have different views on politics, we do. I'm a patriot not a "terrorist".

Scott

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I have had an email from Eugenio Martinez's granddaughter telling me that the early photographs (Operation Tilt) are not of her grandfather on this page. Any comments?

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CIAmartinez.htm

I've always assumed it was obvious that Photo #1 & #2 may be the same man but obviously different from photos 4~6 (beginning from upper left). I am convinced 1-2 are of a different man than 4-6 and that is quite clear personally.

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I have had an email from Eugenio Martinez's granddaughter telling me that the early photographs (Operation Tilt) are not of her grandfather on this page. Any comments?

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CIAmartinez.htm

I've always assumed it was obvious that Photo #1 & #2 may be the same man but obviously different from photos 4~6 (beginning from upper left). I am convinced 1-2 are of a different man than 4-6 and that is quite clear personally.

Hello B.A.,

Thank you for your topical comment.

James Richards put that collage together, so I'd say it's a safe bet that all the pictures do in fact show Martinez.

The four grey-haired shots are Watergate-era, I believe.

Best,

Steve

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Here is a very interesting article on Rolando. The text was in Spanish and the translation is not completely fluid, but you get the idea:

http://baracuteycubano.blogspot.com/2010/08/eugenio-rolando-martinez-habla-del-caso.html

ROLANDO EUGENIO MARTINEZ "Musculito"

Watergate • THAT CAUSED THE RESIGNATION OF RICHARD NIXON

Note from blogger

In http://archivo.laprensa.com.ni Iliana de la Guardia says that in 1977 Antonio "Tony" Guard is responsible to infiltrate into Cuba and then smuggle former CIA agent, Rolando Eugenio Martinez, known as "Musculito" I read somewhere that Eugenio Rolando Martinez on that visit he met with Fidel Castro, if I remember it utiizó to the Cayman Islands to reach Cuba by boat.

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In http://eichikawa.com of August 9, 2010 This article refers to the Spanish newspaper El Mundo

http://www.elmundo.es

USA | One of the Cuban-Americans involved

'I do not regret my role in Watergate'

Manuel Aguilera Cristóbal |

Sunday 19/07/2009

"I wanted to overthrow Castro and unfortunately knocked the president who was helping us, to Richard Nixon." Rolando Eugenio Martinez describes himself as a frustrated. At 86 years does not regret his past as a 'plumber' of the 'Watergate' but regrets that he lost that and many other battles. Born in Artemisa, Cuba, had to flee in times of Batista. He returned home and fled the revolution of Fidel Castro to return to suffer another defeat in the attempt to Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961.

But what made him a "sorry" as he described, occurred the night of June 17, 1971 at 2:30 am in the morning. Rolando Martinez, alias 'Musculito', was arrested along with Virgilio Gonzalez, Bernard Baker, James McCord and Frank Sturgis inside the Democratic National Committee offices in the complex of buildings 'Watergate', in Washington.

It was the beginning of the political-journalistic adventure greatest ever told, it has generated countless articles, books and movies. Martinez still justified, 38 years later, the reasons for the assault that took him to jail with his comrades os: "We were going to steal documents showing that Castro was financing the campaign of Democrat McGovern."

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(Eugenio Rolando Martinez exhibits a presidential pardon granted by Reagan. | M. Aguilera)

The four 'plumbers' from Miami who accompanied McCord, the security chief of the Committee for re-election of Nixon, not surprised that they recruit for this operation. All had worked for the CIA and as 'Musculito' "the sympathy of the Democratic candidate to the Cuban dictator was known by all. He had traveled to Cuba several times and had been seen together watching baseball games." Searching for evidence, he says, "the interference of a foreign country in choosing a U.S. president."

The start of operations of Martinez and his fellow Cuban-Americans in President Nixon's direct dependence began with all the trappings of spy films.

On April 17, 1971 was held in Miami the tenth anniversary of the landing at Playa Giron, the failed attempt to overthrow Fidel Castro carried out by 1,500 Cuban exiles supported by CIA. That day, Bernard Baker, Martinez's best friend, found a note on the door of his house: "If you're still the man I knew, come see me." The text was signed by Howard Hunt, an old acquaintance of both for his role in the operation that day was commemorated.

Hunt was responsible for political action by the Agency and played a key role in the overthrow of Arbenz as president of Guatemala in 1954. After visiting the memorial to the members of Brigade 2506, died in his fight against Fidel Castro, the three men were eating. "You are going to be active again," he snapped Hunt mysterious. The offer was part of a unit of the White House, personally led by Richard Nixon. In case there was some reluctance, Hunt reassures them that the CIA was aware of the creation of this group of actors who would work under the orders of the president. After 12 years working for intelligence agencies work of infiltration, sabotage, kidnapping, espionage etc. flattered Rolando Martinez: "I thought it was a promotion for me."

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(Martinez walks handcuffed after Barker in 1973. | AP)

Within a few weeks 'Musculito' Baker and his friend were already down to work. "At first we investigate everyone who wanted to meet with Nixon," he says. Then came other missions that broke the law again and again. Like when they broke into the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg. Ellsberg had leaked to the New York Times' Pentagon documents about the war in Vietnam. "We wanted her psychiatrist reports to confirm whether he too had passed information to the Soviet Embassy and to know what their motivations."

On May 2, 1972, a month before the raid on the headquarters of the Democrats, the body of John Edgar Hoover, who had been director of the FBI since 1935, was exhibited in the rotunda of the Capitol site. The superiors of 'Musculito' groups feared anti-Vietnam left marched in the vicinity. Fifteen Cubans were recruited in Miami to deter protesters. Martinez recalls with a smile how to dissolve the manifestation of the actors who were part Jane Fonda and Donald Sutherland: "I remember how they provoke. We took a Vietcong flag and broke up. We stopped, but then they let us go quickly."

In the midst of this frenetic activity of the unit created in the shadow of Tricky Dick, comes the first foray into Democratic headquarters. "I photographed a large number of documents and install the microphones, but we were forced to make a second visit."

Martinez maintains that he and his companions were victims of a trap concocted by James McCord, one of the five 'plumbers' that was formally part of the CIA. It was an undercover agent. "He betrayed us. He was a very mysterious. He told us the information we had collected was not enough and we had to repair a microphone that did not work well."

According to the story of Cuban living in Miami Beach, two things happened that raised their suspicions that night. "McCord placed a tape that does not close the door latch. He came and went, and one of the times I came back I asked a question then became famous during the subsequent trial, 'removing' tape '?'. He told me so. The tape was what caught the attention of security guard, who immediately alerted the police. "

The other fact is that McCord suspect forced his companions to turn off their walkie-talkies'. Thereby cut communication with an agent who was watching from the opposite building if the police came. The agent who was cut off was, according to Martinez-McCord relative and "also the Democratic Party."

In January 1973, the four 'plumbers' pleaded guilty to avoid trial and not have to testify about the details of the operation. Were convicted of conspiracy, theft and violation of federal law on communications. Two months later, McCord wrote a letter to the judge and the political scandal that ended with the resignation of President Nixon precipitated. McCord got immunity and Martinez served only 15 months to 40 years who was convicted.

Do you keep a grudge against Nixon? When you hear the question 'Musculito'-he got that nickname in his youth by an athletic-is placed in tension. Look at the reporter defiant statement: "Never. A president with this responsibility will not be aware of some Cubans ...".

After leaving prison, Rolando Eugenio Martinez lived a very hard time. "Still, if I have an operation in the same way then accept it again." Among the relics of the case 'Watergate' bears a special. It was a gift he sent Richard Nixon. It's a lucky clover gold where you can read an inscription in Spanish: "Good luck. Richard Nixon."

Perhaps the charm did its job because after having appeared before the world as a criminal, this agent still had time incombustible embark on a new spying operation in Cuba that was decorated and got a presidential pardon. Ronald Reagan restored his honor and gave him an unconditional pardon.

In 1995 he received a call from Oliver Stone, who advised in his movie 'Nixon'. Of the journalists of the Washington Post, Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, Martinez does not have very good opinion. They are considered very 'fictional' and what is more shocking coming from a dirty war expert, accused of "having used any means, including hidden-recordings in their research."

Thirty-eight years after the assault that triggered the scandal 'Watergate', Rolando Eugenio Martinez was killed at age 92 a few weeks ago his best friend and companion command, Bernard Barker. He insists that his life has been unsuccessful and he now regrets not having killed, as a hero in one of its covert operations. Now, at 86 years, while caring for his sick wife to Alzheimer's, "frustrated" that did not end Medicine, did not overthrow Batista or Fidel Castro and ended the political career of the man who protected him, has only one desire: "I feel like elephants. I want to die in Cuba, the land of my birth."

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