Guest Stephen Turner Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 , a few of them have told me that they think you're insane ... I think they're right . Duane, this is a no-no. I have debated with Craig many times on this Forum, and have never felt moved to question his sanity. Craig, and he will correct me if I am wrong, is an ultra right wing libetarian,and is not shy in letting People know this, this does not make him insane, just abrasive I would suggest my political leaning to be your standard AMERICAN right wing conservative. I stand corrected. This may explain something, too my right wing British friends(yes, I do have some) I am considered a common, or garden variety of Socialist, yet too right wing Americans I have known I am considered a fully blown Communist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Lamson Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 , a few of them have told me that they think you're insane ... I think they're right . Duane, this is a no-no. I have debated with Craig many times on this Forum, and have never felt moved to question his sanity. Craig, and he will correct me if I am wrong, is an ultra right wing libetarian,and is not shy in letting People know this, this does not make him insane, just abrasive I would suggest my political leaning to be your standard AMERICAN right wing conservative. I stand corrected. This may explain something, too my right wing British friends(yes, I do have some) I am considered a common, or garden variety of Socialist, yet too right wing Americans I have known I am considered a fully blown Communist. I'm of the feeling that your right wing is about the equal to our left wing, or there abouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Daman Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 My think tank already did the maths for the bag drop ... They have also done the maths for the hammer /feather drop if you would like to move on to that one .It is my opinion that the bag dropped much too quickly to have been filmed in 1/6 ... It is also the opinion of many other people , including the fellow I quoted from the Apollo hoax forum . The bag dropped as if it were falling in 1g ... Can I personally prove this with a math equation ? .. No ... but then according to my think tank , neither can you prove it fell in 1/6 g. . Another thing I noticed in that video clip , is that the dust does not fall as if it were filmed in 1/6 either ... So the only thing left which behaves as if it's moving in 1/6 g would be the very highly trained astronots bouncing about on their fly systems . Hang on a minute - this is exactly the same clip that was analysed by both myself and your think tank! Even your think tank agreed that the time of the drop was over 0.8 seconds, not the 0.4 seconds this person is claiming. It appears he's simply mis-counted the number of frames - and by a large margin I'm afraid. The image below shows two frames, the top one is taken AFTER the bag started dropping, the bottom one BEFORE the bag hit the floor. There are 15 frames in that snippet, so the actual number of frames from release to hitting the deck must be even HIGHER than 15. In the original analysis I measured 20 frames in total, as did your think tank! You admit that you can't prove it fell in 1g using maths. But your own thinktank proved it could NOT have been filmed in 1g! They stated it must have been done by slowing the film speed down by half (incidentally, they also implied that it COULD have been filmed on the moon, since the figures don't disprove it). Do you now believe your think tank were wrong in their calculations? And is the number of frames in the drop greater than 15, or 11? If it's greater than 15 then you MUST reject the calculations of the new poster on Apollohoax.net, since it's all based on 11 frames. You're entitled to your opinion that this was filmed in 1G, but the maths simply do not add up for that scenario. They do, however, add up if the video was filmed on the moon. Dave ... I don't believe that anything has been proven one way or the other with the math , on either side of this argument . This is very simple really .... The bag drops out of the astronot's pouch much too fast to be falling in 1/6 g on the Moon ... You can post math figures here until the cows come home , but you will never convince me that the video in question was filmed on the Moon . All the evidence points to Apollo being a real time simulation ... It was not a movie like some CT's believe , but rather a simulated Moon mission that was accomplished in such a way to make it look real ... But inspite of the completlely realistic looking sims , mistakes were made ... And the bag dropping too quickly was one of those mistakes . You will of course post the final word on this as you always do .. but I am no longer interested in playing the ONE UP game with you or anyone else ... I have wasted enough time trying to prove something which can't be proven and will never be accepted as truth by the majority . The evidence speaks for itself and luckily is on video for all to see ... That is if they care to look at the truth . Moon Hoax - Bag Drop A17 EVA 3 STN 8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK2Fy85VyRg...ted&search= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Burton Posted October 2, 2007 Share Posted October 2, 2007 (edited) This may explain something, too my right wing British friends(yes, I do have some) I am considered a common, or garden variety of Socialist, yet too right wing Americans I have known I am considered a fully blown Communist. HA! I KNEW IT! The beanie gave you away, "comrade"! Edited October 2, 2007 by Evan Burton Corrected spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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