Thomas H. Purvis Posted August 31, 2007 Author Share Posted August 31, 2007 A continuation would requre posting and evaluation of the Moorman photo.Whereas I can not even seem to get the photo to post through the "ImageShack Hosting", then perhaps others will post it here and then our resident photo experts can include their expertise to the extent of defining exactly what frame of the Z-film the Moorman photo relates to. It is relevant to the issue! http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z314.jpg http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z315.jpg What say you Frank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Agbat Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 (edited) A continuation would requre posting and evaluation of the Moorman photo.Whereas I can not even seem to get the photo to post through the "ImageShack Hosting", then perhaps others will post it here and then our resident photo experts can include their expertise to the extent of defining exactly what frame of the Z-film the Moorman photo relates to. It is relevant to the issue! http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z314.jpg http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z315.jpg What say you Frank? Thomas, You've dragged me out of a self-imposed mini-retirement... At one point, I was looking for the Moorman Polaroid alignment. Note, of course, that the lack of surrounding frames taken at known intervals makes it more difficult to pinpoint a "true" point of synchronization. In looking back at some of my work, I uncovered a work-in-progress picture that seemed to indicate that Moorman was taken somewhere between MS (Muchmore Sequence) frames 46 and 47... (Sequence frame 1 is where she restarted her camera and captured the assassination). I lean toward it being very close to MS-46. John Dolva and I did not reach consensus on the alignment of Muchmore with either of the other two films. However, I remain convinced that the best sync point between Muchmore and Zapruder is at Z291 (which corresponds to Muchmore Sequence 20)... Assuming I'm not completely out of it with Moorman = MS-46 this leads to: Moorman (10.039) = slightly before Z317 (10.055) = Slightly before NS 27 (Nix Sequence 27) (10.059) (Times given are in "Z-Time" where 0.00 is Z133). Guess I'm kinda un-retired, huh? Edited August 31, 2007 by Frank Agbat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thomas H. Purvis Posted August 31, 2007 Author Share Posted August 31, 2007 http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z298.jpg Moorman position at yellow curb mark. Quite well defined. When the alignment from Moorman's position across the Presidential Limo is made utilizing a scale sized drawing of the Presidential Limo, to permanent background references, in conjunction with the full sized WC Survey Plat, it places the location of JFK approximately 2 feet to 3 feet past the impact point for the Z313 headshot. With a calculated vehicle speed of less than 10 mph, this would place the Moorman photo at not prior to Z314/315, and most probably not after Z316/317. Thus, the Z316 to Z317 appears much better when one takes into consideration a vehicle speed of slightly over 9mph. As neither this site nor the imageshack will take a download, the alignments across the limo represent the alignments to the bottom corner of the concrete step mid-platform (just behind the individual on the steps) the back corner of the concrete mid-platform; the fence corner; and the corners of the concrete wall in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H. Purvis Posted September 1, 2007 Author Share Posted September 1, 2007 (edited) Onward! Hopefully! http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z307.jpg Left foot down, beginning lift of right foot! http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z317.jpg Right foot down, beginning lift of left foot! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Step cycle = 10 frames of Z-film. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z317.jpg http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z321.jpg --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Must be the "fast step"! Although the three blurred frames of the, Z318/Z319/& Z320 are indicative of having been created by Abraham Zapruder's reaction to the sound of the shot*, one should not assume that Mr. Zapruder fully recovered from this "jiggle/blur" in only 1/6th of a second. *Based on the distance from Zapruder's position to the sixth floor window, there would have been an approximately 5 to 6 elapsed frames of the film exposure from the time that a shot was fired until such time as the sound reached Zapruder and he would have reacted. The headshot at Z313 would have been fired at approximately Z311(+), and with the delay for speed of sound as well as for Zapruder to react, the Z318 represents a relatively accurate point at which Zapruder should have reacted to the sound of the shot. However, not unlike those blurred aspects for frames of the film at Z209/210/211, which of course also includes frames which were originally omitted as well as this being a primary point at which the WC altered survey data, it is also quite unlikely that Zapruder reacted to the sound of gunfire and then recovered in only 1/6th of a second. These naturally "blurred" frames of the film, which by all indications are the natural reaction of Abraham Zapruder to the sound of shots fired, also appear to have been a point at which the film does not appear to be of a full content. And, this naturally occurring blurring appears to have given those who wanted to do so, the clealy/blurry area of the film with which to make deletions. Edited September 1, 2007 by Thomas H. Purvis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Knight Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Continue the lesson, Professor Purvis....I'm awake and paying attention in class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H. Purvis Posted September 2, 2007 Author Share Posted September 2, 2007 Continue the lesson, Professor Purvis....I'm awake and paying attention in class. Most certainly glad to see you back! At times, I feel somewhat all alone, swimming in a sea of toothless and blind sharks which are merely striking at anything which moves. As you are no doubt aware, I sometimes go in circles, but usually get around to the WHY? of the circles. The expertise of those such as Frank and John in providing the correlative information relative to frames of various films, is a key element of this production as well. Along with the ability to accurately plot, on the plat, various persons and items of critical importance. Just perhaps a few may now cease to look for Badgeman; Black Dog Man; Sewer Drain Man; etc; etc; etc; & other mythological creatures, and begin to seriously evaluate the factual evidence at hand. Sort of makes one quetion exactly who as well as why anyone was directed off into the fantasyland/rabbithole arena of such nonsense to begin with. Take Note: "Wern't ME"! Three shots------------Three Hits! Boy oh boy is that complicated! And, when firing at ranges of 500 yards from a fixed position, LHO consistantly fired in the upper ranges of EXPERT, and had he been qualifyling by those standards of the US Army (which do not include 1,000 yard shooting, not to mention 1,000 yard shooting from the standing unsupported position), then LHO would have most probably been given consideration for additional marksmanship training to see if he could thereafter qualify for positions which ultimately lead to the Army Markmanship Team. Anyway, welcome back Mark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H. Purvis Posted September 3, 2007 Author Share Posted September 3, 2007 Onward! Hopefully!http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z307.jpg Left foot down, beginning lift of right foot! http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z317.jpg Right foot down, beginning lift of left foot! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Step cycle = 10 frames of Z-film. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z317.jpg http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z321.jpg --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Must be the "fast step"! Although the three blurred frames of the, Z318/Z319/& Z320 are indicative of having been created by Abraham Zapruder's reaction to the sound of the shot*, one should not assume that Mr. Zapruder fully recovered from this "jiggle/blur" in only 1/6th of a second. *Based on the distance from Zapruder's position to the sixth floor window, there would have been an approximately 5 to 6 elapsed frames of the film exposure from the time that a shot was fired until such time as the sound reached Zapruder and he would have reacted. The headshot at Z313 would have been fired at approximately Z311(+), and with the delay for speed of sound as well as for Zapruder to react, the Z318 represents a relatively accurate point at which Zapruder should have reacted to the sound of the shot. However, not unlike those blurred aspects for frames of the film at Z209/210/211, which of course also includes frames which were originally omitted as well as this being a primary point at which the WC altered survey data, it is also quite unlikely that Zapruder reacted to the sound of gunfire and then recovered in only 1/6th of a second. These naturally "blurred" frames of the film, which by all indications are the natural reaction of Abraham Zapruder to the sound of shots fired, also appear to have been a point at which the film does not appear to be of a full content. And, this naturally occurring blurring appears to have given those who wanted to do so, the clealy/blurry area of the film with which to make deletions. http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z210.jpg http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z341.jpg Some of those "coincidental anomalies"! http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z340.jpg Mr. HILL- Just about as I reached it, there was another sound, which was different than the first sound. I think I described it in my statement as though someone was shooting a revolver into a hard object--it seemed to have some type of an echo. I put my right foot, I believe it was, on the left rear step of the automobile, and I had a hold of the handgrip with my hand, when the car lurched forward. I lost my footing and I had to run about three or four more steps before I could get back up in the car. Between the time I originally grabbed the handhold and until I was up on the car, Mrs. Kennedy--the second noise that I heard had removed a portion of the President's head, Mr. SPECTER. When, in relationship to the second shot, did the car accelerate that is, the President's car? Mr. HILL. Almost simultaneously. Mr. SPECTER. When, in relationship to the second shot, did Mrs. Kennedy move out of the rear seat? Mr. HILL. Just after it. http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z341.jpg Mr. ALTGENS - This would put me at approximately this area here, which would be about 15 feet from me at the time he was shot in the head--about 15 feet from the car on the west side of the car--on the side that Mrs. Kennedy was riding in the car. There was flesh particles that flew out of the side of his head in my direction from where I was standing, and that's why I know that it would be right at 15 feet, because I had prefocused in that area, and I had my camera almost to my eye when it happened and that's as far as I got with my camera. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would suppose that we could state that Z210 & Z341 have "anomalies in common", since they both appear to be missing a portion of the film and they both, according to witnesses, would be at the approximate point at which JFK was struck by a bullet. All of which begins to bring other aspects into it's proper perspective. http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/...Vol17_0449a.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H. Purvis Posted September 6, 2007 Author Share Posted September 6, 2007 http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...5708&st=240 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Dolva wrote: "I share doubt about this whole thing. Partly it's 'philosophical' : how can one use a film one considers a fake to prove the genuineness of features about a film one has chosen not to call fake and so on." John...you are missing the point. Even IF ALL THE IMAGES ARE FAKE, it is important to point out the discrepancies between them. That is NOT using one to "prove genuineness" of another. To the contrary, such differences make BOTH suspect. This is an important difference!----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z086.jpg http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/...Vol18_0013b.htm http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z356.jpg http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z357.jpg ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Where there is a will, there is a way! However, one could also state that where there is a "Will", there will frequently be shyster lawyers as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H. Purvis Posted September 7, 2007 Author Share Posted September 7, 2007 http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...5708&st=240--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Dolva wrote: "I share doubt about this whole thing. Partly it's 'philosophical' : how can one use a film one considers a fake to prove the genuineness of features about a film one has chosen not to call fake and so on." John...you are missing the point. Even IF ALL THE IMAGES ARE FAKE, it is important to point out the discrepancies between them. That is NOT using one to "prove genuineness" of another. To the contrary, such differences make BOTH suspect. This is an important difference!----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z086.jpg http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/...Vol18_0013b.htm http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z356.jpg http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z357.jpg ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Where there is a will, there is a way! However, one could also state that where there is a "Will", there will frequently be shyster lawyers as well. That David, was the most simple to find indicator. However, since it represents a virtually physical impossibility to achieve, then it also gives grounds as to where else one just may want to look for their other indicators. And rest assured, there were many mistakes made thoroughout. Let me know if any help finding it is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H. Purvis Posted September 7, 2007 Author Share Posted September 7, 2007 WC Z194 Costello Z194 Provided one looks for it, there is some "common ground". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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