Complaints thread - Political Conspiracies

[John Bevilaqua]

Some poster named John Gillespie is posting without a valid photo or picture. He is also just grafitti tagging on very relevant and very important postings about Carleton S. Coon without contributing anything positive using only snide comments and rude rebuttals. He is a friend of Bill Kelly's and this is just obvious harassment.

[Evan Burton]

I am waiting to find out if the poster is someone that John Simkin has given a waiver to; please wait until I get a reply. As far as their posts are concerned, I don't see anything that breaks Forum rules but am waiting to hear from other mods.

Apologies but please be patient.

[William Kelly]

Some poster named John Gillespie is posting without a valid photo or picture. He is also just grafitti tagging on very relevant and very important postings about Carleton S. Coon without contributing anything positive using only snide comments and rude rebuttals. He is a friend of Bill Kelly's and this is just obvious harassment.

I have never met John Gillespie, but If I was him I wouldn't put my photo up for you, a rude, hateful and deciteful person with a history of violence, retribution, intimidation and retaliation who has threatened to get me fired from my non-existent casino job and who should be on medication and moderation.

I have met a lot of interesting people in the course of my JFK research, but most of them, regardless of their beliefs, are basically nice, inquisitive and hopefull, not vile, name changing paranoids who know all the answers and belittles anyone who doesn't agree with their pet theory.

I don't know John Gillespie, but he's now my friend.

Bill Kelly

[John Simkin]

I am waiting to find out if the poster is someone that John Simkin has given a waiver to; please wait until I get a reply. As far as their posts are concerned, I don't see anything that breaks Forum rules but am waiting to hear from other mods.

Apologies but please be patient.

I have not given John Gillespie permission to post without a photograph. (He did have a photograph that has been taken down.) I have placed him on moderation until he adds his photograph.

[John Bevilaqua]

I am waiting to find out if the poster is someone that John Simkin has given a waiver to; please wait until I get a reply. As far as their posts are concerned, I don't see anything that breaks Forum rules but am waiting to hear from other mods.

Apologies but please be patient.

I have not given John Gillespie permission to post without a photograph. (He did have a photograph that has been taken down.) I have placed him on moderation until he adds his photograph.

John,

Could you please remove the last grafitti tag posting he made about my posting on Carleton S. Coon? It gives credence

to those who continue to oppose the role played by Dr. Carleton S. Coon which was first discovered by James Richards.

It even puts the research of James Richards into the category of disreputable and disingenuous efforts which is perhaps

what this Gillespie character wanted to accomplish under his surreptitious identity.

Thanks,

John B

[Evan Burton]

I have made a couple of posts invisible. If John or other mods think they should be made visible, then they will do so. For the moment, I do not want this thread to become a place for two members to fight with each other.

Please note that I - and I believe that John & other mods will back me up on this - take a VERY dim view of members making threats towards one another. This includes threats of legal action.

[Evan Burton]

It has always been my 'take' that if the 'entity Colby' takes exception to a post, then the powers that be and lie do also, and one should take a VERY jaundiced eye at what he is spinning, and why he is spinning it. He has done more damage to this Forum than any other individual, IMO, and more damage to the pursuit of truth, as well. Newbeeys are cautioned to look carefully at his past posts, positions, and those rejoinders made against them. Those old hands here know well the games the Colby son [as father] play[ed] to spread doubt and discord among those who try to seek the truth hidden by the powerful.

This post by a moderator was a personal attack, questions my motives and insinuates I'm a xxxx thus violates 3 forum rules.

Peter,

It has been over two weeks since this complaint was made and you have been here at least a couple of times. Would you please respond to the claims made against you?

Edited December 10, 2009 by Evan Burton

[William Kelly]

I have made a couple of posts invisible. If John or other mods think they should be made visible, then they will do so. For the moment, I do not want this thread to become a place for two members to fight with each other.

Please note that I - and I believe that John & other mods will back me up on this - take a VERY dim view of members making threats towards one another. This includes threats of legal action.

Let me get this straight. John Belvaaquavelva, who acknowledges that he's gone beyond this forum, and is trying to get me fired from my job, and has a history of violent attacks against other researchers, can hide his face behind his hand in his photo, but if he complains about someone else's photo, they get placed on moderation, but he isn't despite violating forum rules as he is, in Evan Burton's words, "given a waver'?

You can make this invisible too, but that's okay, I have them all on file, just incase I do get fired or any harm comes to anyone on this forum because of him.

We'll probably never hear from John Gillespie again, but do you think we'll hear about Wycliff Draper?

Bill Kelly

Edited December 10, 2009 by William Kelly

[Len Colby]

What happened to the "Fetzer's sidekick" thread? I imagine a mod. saw fit to delete or invisiblize it but he (or she) should have made a post explaining why they did so.

[Len Colby]

Unless some justification is given via, PM, e-mail or forum post for making the thread disappear, I will repost it in about 24 hours. Mods should justify such actions rather than carry them out arbitrarily with out notice.

[William Kelly]

Unless some justification is given via, PM, e-mail or forum post for making the thread disappear, I will repost it in about 24 hours. Mods should justify such actions rather than carry them out arbitrarily with out notice.

I think there should be only one rule: If a moderator removes a post or a thread for any reason, then the person who posted it should be automatically placed on moderation.

BK

[Len Colby]

Unless some justification is given via, PM, e-mail or forum post for making the thread disappear, I will repost it in about 24 hours. Mods should justify such actions rather than carry them out arbitrarily with out notice.

Quite a 'joke' Mr. Joker on this Forum. You [!] have blocked PM from anyone including moderators.

The only person I've blocked send me PM's is you because you send me abusive threatening messages and then claim confidentiality if I post their content. My PM box was temporarily full.

You have blocked emails from anyone including moderators..

Not true,but them I'm used to making stuff up. In any case the appropriate step would have been a post on the "Moderator actions - Political Conspiracies, Records of actions taken by the Mods" thread which was specifically set-up for that purpose.

I have your private email [but never used it and will not]. A post on the Forum is possible and here it is from me.

I asked for a post from the mod who make it invisible. i couldn't care less what you think.

I did not [FYI] do anything to this thread, but agree with its being made to vanish [on Burton's call]..

Evan told me it wasn't him,who should I believe you or him?

Stop pushing your lucky, or I predict you'll soon be off this forum - and not by my 'hand' in any way. Your thread was WAY off base and an attack/provocations/ad hom all rolled into one, with NO mitigating factors. Do you and 'your side' believe in attempting victory at any cost and by ANY MEANS?! Have you NO decency?!.

It was essentially an attack on a non-member, fetzer was only tarred by association.Interesting that neither you nor the mod who made the thread raised any objections to the numerous threads started as personal attacks on me and other including the thread Fetzer started accusing Tink of "obfuscating crucial evidence".In your typically hypocritical fashion you started thread just to label Tink,Craig and me "agents of deception"

Edited January 2, 2010 by Len Colby

[William Kelly]

I am waiting to find out if the poster is someone that John Simkin has given a waiver to; please wait until I get a reply. As far as their posts are concerned, I don't see anything that breaks Forum rules but am waiting to hear from other mods.

Apologies but please be patient.

I have not given John Gillespie permission to post without a photograph. (He did have a photograph that has been taken down.) I have placed him on moderation until he adds his photograph.

John,

Could you please remove the last grafitti tag posting he made about my posting on Carleton S. Coon? It gives credence

to those who continue to oppose the role played by Dr. Carleton S. Coon which was first discovered by James Richards.

It even puts the research of James Richards into the category of disreputable and disingenuous efforts which is perhaps

what this Gillespie character wanted to accomplish under his surreptitious identity.

Thanks,

John B

Isn't John Simkin following John Bevilaqua's orders anymore?

He got "this John Gillespie character" moderated, me investigated and attempted to get me fired from my job, and now he wants to control the posts made by others?

It's pretty clear who is calling the shots and directing things around here.

Bill Kelly

[Craig Lamson]

Unless some justification is given via, PM, e-mail or forum post for making the thread disappear, I will repost it in about 24 hours. Mods should justify such actions rather than carry them out arbitrarily with out notice.

Quite a 'joke' Mr. Joker on this Forum. You [!] have blocked PM from anyone including moderators.

The only person I've blocked send me PM's is you because you send me abusive threatening messages and then claim confidentiality if I post their content. My PM box was temporarily full.

You have blocked emails from anyone including moderators..

Not true,but them I'm used to making stuff up. In any case the appropriate step would have been a post on the "Moderator actions - Political Conspiracies, Records of actions taken by the Mods" thread which was specifically set-up for that purpose.

I have your private email [but never used it and will not]. A post on the Forum is possible and here it is from me.

I asked for a post from the mod who make it invisible. i couldn't care less what you think.

I did not [FYI] do anything to this thread, but agree with its being made to vanish [on Burton's call]..

Evan told me it wasn't him,who should I believe you or him?

Stop pushing your lucky, or I predict you'll soon be off this forum - and not by my 'hand' in any way. Your thread was WAY off base and an attack/provocations/ad hom all rolled into one, with NO mitigating factors. Do you and 'your side' believe in attempting victory at any cost and by ANY MEANS?! Have you NO decency?!.

It was essentially an attack on a non-member, fetzer was only tarred by association.Interesting that neither you nor the mod who made the thread raised any objections to the numerous threads started as personal attacks on me and other including the thread Fetzer started accusing Tink of "obfuscating crucial evidence".In your typically hypocritical fashion you started thread just to label Tink,Craig and me "agents of deception"

I'm flattered that you block only me. Craig Lamson also blocks me - perhaps others. If you are going to [and you both do more than most all others] send reports to the moderators [i being one] and not allow me to respond, then I am left with no alternative but to post here both the complaint [or part of it if relevant] and my reply and action, if any. As you sow, so shall ye reap. Why do I get the feeling you are at war with this Forum, yet participate almost more than any others....odd.....or maybe not.....

Public notice of your every action as moderator should be a requirement. (either to deny or act on a a report)

[Len Colby]

I'm flattered that you block only me. Craig Lamson also blocks me - perhaps others. If you are going to [and you both do more than most all others] send reports to the moderators [i being one] and not allow me to respond, then I am left with no alternative but to post here both the complaint [or part of it if relevant] and my reply and action, if any. As you sow, so shall ye reap. Why do I get the feeling you are at war with this Forum, yet participate almost more than any others....odd.....or maybe not.....

I only blocked YOU because only YOU send me threatening and abusive messages, ironic that you are "flattered" of that but want to keep the content secret.

Feel free "to post here both the complaint [or part of it if relevant] and my reply and action" I am the one calling for moderators to post there actions you are the one who doesn't want to let me post your messages to me. Not surprisingly you don't deny this because you know doing so will lead to my post those messages. Why are you so ashamed of your own words?

The notion I am "at war with this Forum" is stupid you made it quite clear you prefer the breakaway DPF, that said I do try to counter a lot of the nonsense that some members, you included, post here.

Edited January 3, 2010 by Len Colby