UFOs and the Invasion of Iraq

[William Kelly]

Bill...Cabell was not connected to BLUE BOOK. From Wikipedia....

Jack, in the course of my JFK research, the most bizzare interview was with Arthur Young, husband of Ruth Forbes Paine Young (Michael Paine's mom).

Young first asked me to read his books before I visited him, which I did, on his helicopter work at Bell and on his philosophy. When I got to his home near Brandywine, Pennsylvania, he asked me my date and place of birth and did my astrological chart while we talked.

After awhile Young asked me if I was an alien. At first I thought he meant like an illegal Irish immigrant, but I had already told him I was born in Camden, N.J.

He said my astrological chart indicated I could have been from the Pleiadeas, which he said were a group of seven planets hundreds of thousands of light years away.

I think he was actually disapointed that I wasn't from there.

Young then explained that the Pleiadeans have been visiting and studying us humans for some time now, and they look human, unlike the "Grays," the dumpy, big eyed aliens, who are actually at war with each other.

All of this, said Young, is well-documented, and when I asked where, he went to the self of his well stocked library and pulled out a book, "Contact From the Pleiadeas - A Preliminary Investigation," and "Message from the Pleiadeans - Contact Notes Vol.1 - 4"

by Col. Wendelle C. Stevens, USAF (Ret.).

Young opened the book and there was a photo of a Pleiadean - a knockout blonde, who Young said only allowed her picture to be taken (by Billy Meier in Swiss), because her research here on earth was completed and she was going home.

As explained by Young, they come to earth in "beam ships" that transmit them instantly from their native gallexy. The beam ship is parked at the edge of our solar system, so as not to interfere with the forces of gravety, and then they come the rest of the way in flying saucers, landing in Billy Meier's backyard.

I wrote down the author's name - Col. Wendelle C. Stevens, who Young said was a friend of his who lived in the Southwest. When I got home I got Stevens phone number from the public listings and called him.

When I asked about getting a copy of one of his books he said they were out of print and he didn't have any for sale. He asked me where I saw it and I mentioned Arthur Young, who he acknowledged as a good friend. Stevens took my name and address and said that he would contact me when there was another printing, but he never did.

I mentioned Stevens Air Force credentials, and he said he was stationed for the most part at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, where I went to school - the University of Dayton, which I mentioned.

I also mentioned that the Roswell aliens were suposidely taken to Wright-Pat, and that the Air Force's Project Bluebook was the UFO studies, and Stevens said that he was assigned to Project Bluebook.

When I asked him who his commanding officer was at the time he said General Charles Cabell.

Now I don't know what Wickkie says - (they also have a page on Billy Meier )

- but I did find a link to Col. Wendelle C. Stevens:

http://www.fastwalkers.com/featured/WendelleCStevens.htm

Wendell C. Stevens was born January 18, 1923.

He was assigned to duty in the Army Air Force, in1942. He was accepted for Aviation Cadet Training the same year and graduated from Fighter Pilot Advanced Training in 1943 as a very young 2nd lieutenant in the then U.S. Army Air Corps. After that he attended the first Air Corps Flight Test Pilot School at Kelly Field where he learned to fly all the aircraft in the Air Corps inventory at that time, and a few U.S. Navy Aircraft. He was assigned as the first commander of the First ARU Floating, an aircraft, maintenance squadron. This continued until the war ended in 1945.

After the war ended Stevens was reassigned back to the Flight Test Division. He continued in this capacity until the summer of 1947 when he was rotated to Alaska, where he supervised a special highly classified team of technical specialists who were installing hi-tech data collecting equipment.

Stevens began his own personal research and collection effort. He has the largest collection of UFO photographs in the world, over 3,000 of them.

He began to publish reports on the photographic events in his collection, and wrote illustrated UFO articles for four domestic and live foreign UFO magazines.

Becoming disenchanted with the dearth of detail on contact events reported in contemporary books and journals of the time, about 10 years ago. Stevens began preparing detailed reports of his own investigations of extensive and on-going UFO contact cases that came to his attention. These reports often ran to over 200 pages and some to over 600 pages, in length and were published in heavily illustrated permanent hard cover library style bindings.

Stevens retired from the U.S. Air Force for time served on active duty, in October of 1963, and has pursued his UFO interests continuously since then. He retired as a Regular Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, which grade he still holds in retirement.

website: http://ufophotoarchives.org

Now I don't know what Charles Cabell's career record looks like, but this guy says that Cabell was his commanding officer when he worked for Bluebook at Wright-Pat.

I'm just relating my experience with Art Young, and how it leads not only to UFOs but to the USAF and their dizzyinformation agents like Stevens.

As for believing in UFOs, I just don't think they exist because if they did the Air Force would be using them in Iraq and we would have won the war by now.

And Jack, as for Charles Cabell, you may have more info on him than I do.

BK

Edited October 30, 2007 by William Kelly

[Charles Drago]

Time for The Third Alternative, perhaps?

Q. Are UFOs intelligently controlled, interplanetary and/or interdimensional craft/entities, or is the phenomenon essentially a product of the disinformation and propaganda apparats?

A. Yes.

[Jack White]

Jack, in the course of my JFK research, the most bizzare interview was with Arthur Young, husband of Ruth Forbes Paine Young (Michael Paine's mom).

Young first asked me to read his books before I visited him, which I did, on his helicopter work at Bell and on his philosophy. When I got to his home near Brandywine, Pennsylvania, he asked me my date and place of birth and did my astrological chart while we talked.

After awhile Young asked me if I was an alien. At first I thought he meant like an illegal Irish immigrant, but I had already told him I was born in Camden, N.J.

He said my astrological chart indicated I could have been from the Pleiadeas, which he said were a group of seven planets hundreds of thousands of light years away.

I think he was actually disapointed that I wasn't from there.

Young then explained that the Pleiadeans have been visiting and studying us humans for some time now, and they look human, unlike the "Grays," the dumpy, big eyed aliens, who are actually at war with each other.

All of this, said Young, is well-documented, and when I asked where, he went to the self of his well stocked library and pulled out a book, "Contact From the Pleiadeas - A Preliminary Investigation," and "Message from the Pleiadeans - Contact Notes Vol.1 - 4"

by Col. Wendelle C. Stevens, USAF (Ret.).

Young opened the book and there was a photo of a Pleiadean - a knockout blonde, who Young said only allowed her picture to be taken (by Billy Meier in Swiss), because her research here on earth was completed and she was going home.

As explained by Young, they come to earth in "beam ships" that transmit them instantly from their native gallexy. The beam ship is parked at the edge of our solar system, so as not to interfere with the forces of gravety, and then they come the rest of the way in flying saucers, landing in Billy Meier's backyard.

I wrote down the author's name - Col. Wendelle C. Stevens, who Young said was a friend of his who lived in the Southwest. When I got home I got Stevens phone number from the public listings and called him.

When I asked about getting a copy of one of his books he said they were out of print and he didn't have any for sale. He asked me where I saw it and I mentioned Arthur Young, who he acknowledged as a good friend. Stevens took my name and address and said that he would contact me when there was another printing, but he never did.

I mentioned Stevens Air Force credentials, and he said he was stationed for the most part at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, where I went to school - the University of Dayton, which I mentioned.

I also mentioned that the Roswell aliens were suposidely taken to Wright-Pat, and that the Air Force's Project Bluebook was the UFO studies, and Stevens said that he was assigned to Project Bluebook.

When I asked him who his commanding officer was at the time he said General Charles Cabell.

Now I don't know what Wickkie says - (they also have a page on Billy Meier )

- but I did find a link to Col. Wendelle C. Stevens:

http://www.fastwalkers.com/featured/WendelleCStevens.htm

Wendell C. Stevens was born January 18, 1923.

He was assigned to duty in the Army Air Force, in1942. He was accepted for Aviation Cadet Training the same year and graduated from Fighter Pilot Advanced Training in 1943 as a very young 2nd lieutenant in the then U.S. Army Air Corps. After that he attended the first Air Corps Flight Test Pilot School at Kelly Field where he learned to fly all the aircraft in the Air Corps inventory at that time, and a few U.S. Navy Aircraft. He was assigned as the first commander of the First ARU Floating, an aircraft, maintenance squadron. This continued until the war ended in 1945.

After the war ended Stevens was reassigned back to the Flight Test Division. He continued in this capacity until the summer of 1947 when he was rotated to Alaska, where he supervised a special highly classified team of technical specialists who were installing hi-tech data collecting equipment.

Stevens began his own personal research and collection effort. He has the largest collection of UFO photographs in the world, over 3,000 of them.

He began to publish reports on the photographic events in his collection, and wrote illustrated UFO articles for four domestic and live foreign UFO magazines.

Becoming disenchanted with the dearth of detail on contact events reported in contemporary books and journals of the time, about 10 years ago. Stevens began preparing detailed reports of his own investigations of extensive and on-going UFO contact cases that came to his attention. These reports often ran to over 200 pages and some to over 600 pages, in length and were published in heavily illustrated permanent hard cover library style bindings.

Stevens retired from the U.S. Air Force for time served on active duty, in October of 1963, and has pursued his UFO interests continuously since then. He retired as a Regular Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, which grade he still holds in retirement.

website: http://ufophotoarchives.org

Now I don't know what Charles Cabell's career record looks like, but this guy says that Cabell was his commanding officer when he worked for Bluebook at Wright-Pat.

I'm just relating my experience with Art Young, and how it leads not only to UFOs but to the USAF and their dizzyinformation agents like Stevens.

As for believing in UFOs, I just don't think they exist because if they did the Air Force would be using them in Iraq and we would have won the war by now.

And Jack, as for Charles Cabell, you may have more info on him than I do.

BK

..................

Interesting, Bill....the trouble is I have NO info on Cabell being with BlueBook.

I have more than 20 UFO books and do not remember any mention of him.

Unfortunately, most of them do not have indexes. The story you tell is quite

fascinating.

Jack

[Tim Gratz]

In last night's Democrat debate at Drexel University (in which Hilary answered both "yes" and "no" to whether illegal immigrants should be given N Y driver's licenses) Rep Dennis Kucinich (sp?) confirmed that he had indeed seen a UGO.

The moderator indicated a study showed 14% of Americans claimed to have seen a UGO (somewhat higher than the percentage who have seen Elvis). None of the other candidates indicated that he (or she the frontrunner) had ever seen a UFO.

I am not aware of any Republican candidate who claims he has seen a UFO.

Edited October 31, 2007 by Tim Gratz

[Jack White]

Background according the the CIA official site. https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-...nclass/ufo.html

It seemingly says Cabell ordered the Bluebook investigation, without speaking to his level of direct involvement afterward, but obviously quite a bit.....

The emergence in 1947 of the Cold War confrontation between the United States and the Soviet Union also saw the first wave of UFO sightings. The first report of a "flying saucer" over the United States came on 24 June 1947, when Kenneth Arnold, a private pilot and reputable businessman, while looking for a downed plane sighted nine disk-shaped objects near Mt. Rainier, Washington, traveling at an estimated speed of over 1,000 mph. Arnold's report was followed by a flood of additional sightings, including reports from military and civilian pilots and air traffic controllers all over the United States. (4) In 1948, Air Force Gen. Nathan Twining, head of the Air Technical Service Command, established Project SIGN (initially named Project SAUCER) to collect, collate, evaluate, and distribute within the government all information relating to such sightings, on the premise that UFOs might be real and of national security concern. (5)

The Technical Intelligence Division of the Air Material Command (AMC) at Wright Field (later Wright-Patterson Air Force Base) in Dayton, Ohio, assumed control of Project SIGN and began its work on 23 January 1948. Although at first fearful that the objects might be Soviet secret weapons, the Air Force soon concluded that UFOs were real but easily explained and not extraordinary. The Air Force report found that almost all sightings stemmed from one or more of three causes: mass hysteria and hallucination, hoax, or misinterpretation of known objects. Nevertheless, the report recommended continued military intelligence control over the investigation of all sightings and did not rule out the possibility of extraterrestrial phenomena. (6)

Amid mounting UFO sightings, the Air Force continued to collect and evaluate UFO data in the late 1940s under a new project, GRUDGE, which tried to alleviate public anxiety over UFOs via a public relations campaign designed to persuade the public that UFOs constituted nothing unusual or extraordinary. UFO sightings were explained as balloons, conventional aircraft, planets, meteors, optical illusions, solar reflections, or even "large hailstones." GRUDGE officials found no evidence in UFO sightings of advanced foreign weapons design or development, and they concluded that UFOs did not threaten US security. They recommended that the project be reduced in scope because the very existence of Air Force official interest encouraged people to believe in UFOs and contributed to a "war hysteria" atmosphere. On 27 December 1949, the Air Force announced the project's termination. (7)

With increased Cold War tensions, the Korean war, and continued UFO sightings, USAF Director of Intelligence Maj. Gen. Charles P. Cabell ordered a new UFO project in 1952. Project BLUE BOOK became the major Air Force effort to study the UFO phenomenon throughout the 1950s and 1960s. (8) The task of identifying and explaining UFOs continued to fall on the Air Material Command at Wright-Patterson. With a small staff, the Air Technical Intelligence Center (ATIC) tried to persuade the public that UFOs were not extraordinary. (9) Projects SIGN, GRUDGE, and BLUE BOOK set the tone for the official US Government position regarding UFOs for the next 30 years.

[there is more on the site]

Thanks, Peter....I have read about 20 UFO books and do not remember any mention of Cabell.

Jack

[Len Colby]

I am not aware of any Republican candidate who claims he has seen a UFO.

I don't know about the current crop of candidates, I imagine they might think it it best to keep such ideas to themselves, but Barry Goldwater was very open in his belief in in UFO's and that something was being hidden in "Area 51" the Reagans IIRC believed in ESP etc. Bush 2 said that God doesn't listen to the prayers of non-Christians, presumablly Romney believes the tennants of Mormonism which most people would find rather bizzare.

[Ron Ecker]

Late one night several weeks ago I was puzzled by a noise that suddenly started outside my home, like someone running a lawn mower or weedeater or something in my yard. This noise would last a minute or so, then stop for a minute, then start again. I went outside and found that the noise was coming from the sky. It was overcast and I could see no light or possible source for this noise. It seemed to come from no particular direction, it was just pervasive. It could not be any type of aircraft coming or going or hovering, because it would not fade in and out. It would suddenly start, suddenly stop after a while, then suddenly start again.

I finally called 911 and asked if anyone had reported strange noise from the sky. I was told yes, and they didn't know what it was.

I still don't know. Is there such a thing as USNs (unidentified sky noises)?

Edited October 31, 2007 by Ron Ecker

[Jack White]

Late one night several weeks ago I was puzzled by a noise that suddenly started outside my home, like someone running a lawn mower or weedeater or something in my yard. This noise would last a minute or so, then stop for a minute, then start again. I went outside and found that the noise was coming from the sky. It was overcast and I could see no light or possible source for this noise. It seemed to come from no particular direction, it was just pervasive. It could not be any type of aircraft coming or going or hovering, because it would not fade in and out. It was suddenly start, suddenly stop after a while, then suddenly start again.

I finally called 911 and asked if anyone had reported strange noise from the sky. I was told yes, and they didn't know what it was.

I still don't know. Is there such a thing as USNs (unidentified sky noises)?

Ron...a clue may be OVERCAST. Sounds can reflect off of a heavy overcast. I live about a

half mile from one busy freeway and two miles from another. During heavy overcast the

freeway hum is louder than when the sky is clear. Depending on wind direction, this can

be magnified. If the wind is from the north, sometimes the noise from two miles away is

louder than the hum from a half mile. Then again, maybe it was a genuine USN.

Jack

[Guest David Guyatt]

For Jack, Ron et al, several decades ago, as a wet-behind-the-ears youngster, I was a field investigator for the Tuscon based Aerial Phenomena Research Organisation (APRO) and was, at about the same time, editing a UK based UFO magazine (this was hobby time stuff, not professional). I have seen three convincing UFO sightings of what can only be described as "unidentified". I have investigated very many sightings reported by others from around the UK over the years I was involved in this.

But the only reasonable answer, I eventually decided, is that "unidentified" simply means advanced technology that is very, very secret. Peter is far more knowledgeable about the Nazi/SS aspect to all this than I am, but I find that aspect to be rather compelling.

I was also quite interested in the interdimensional view as expounded by Jacques Vallee in his book Passport to Magonia. However, anyone who spends time seriously looking at the interdimensional aspect comes away with an altered mindset about the reality we live in - compared to the one they held prior to their delving. Are the intelligent denizens of interdimensional reality? Yes, Jung has demonstrated that time and time again. Throughout all the recorded ages the same thing has also been demonstrated.

The technological manifestation is, I believe, black ops technology. This is only my take, of course.

David

[Evan Burton]

I am not aware of any Republican candidate who claims he has seen a UFO.

I don't know about the current crop of candidates, I imagine they might think it it best to keep such ideas to themselves, but Barry Goldwater was very open in his belief in in UFO's and that something was being hidden in "Area 51" the Reagans IIRC believed in ESP etc. Bush 2 said that God doesn't listen to the prayers of non-Christians, presumablly Romney believes the tennants of Mormonism which most people would find rather bizzare.

I don't know about being a republican or a democrat, but President Jimmy Carter reported seeing a UFO.

[Michael Hogan]

I don't know about being a republican or a democrat, but President Jimmy Carter reported seeing a UFO.

http://www.presidentialufo.com/jimmy.htm