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This is the most significant discovery I have made in a very long while.

The famous single clear frame in Wiegman shows the Curry lead car

stopped by the south curb and two motorcops standing in the street

beside it...as the JFK limo is about to enter the underpass. This

demolishes the Zapruder film.

It fits precisely the testimony of officers Chaney and Ellis.

I am sending the graphic to Bernice to post for me as soon

as she can.

Jack

PS...I will soon have a new computer and will be able to

post images again.

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Hi Jack,

I assume this is the image you refer to? Curious indeed.

I also take it, that is the cops and Curry's car on the left of frame with the limo about to enter the underpass on the right?

How do you see this in relationship to the McIntyre image as I was under the impression that was the Curry car in close proximity to the limo?

Fascinating indeed.

James

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Hi Jack,

I assume this is the image you refer to? Curious indeed.

I also take it, that is the cops and Curry's car on the left of frame with the limo about to enter the underpass on the right?

How do you see this in relationship to the McIntyre image as I was under the impression that was the Curry car in close proximity to the limo?

Fascinating indeed.

James

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This is the most significant discovery I have made in a very long while.

The famous single clear frame in Wiegman shows the Curry lead car

stopped by the south curb and two motorcops standing in the street

beside it...as the JFK limo is about to enter the underpass. This

demolishes the Zapruder film.

It fits precisely the testimony of officers Chaney and Ellis.

I am sending the graphic to Bernice to post for me as soon

as she can.

Jack

PS...I will soon have a new computer and will be able to

post images again.

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Jack......

B.....

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Hi Jack,

I assume this is the image you refer to? Curious indeed.

I also take it, that is the cops and Curry's car on the left of frame with the limo about to enter the underpass on the right?

How do you see this in relationship to the McIntyre image as I was under the impression that was the Curry car in close proximity to the limo?

Fascinating indeed.

James

The McIntire image DOES NOT JIBE WITH ANY OF THE OFFICERS' TESTIMONY.

Were half a dozen witnesses lying, or is the McIntire image suspect?

I do not know...but there must be a resolution, SINCE BOTH WIEGMAN AND

MCINTIRE CANNOT BE CORRECT. For instance, in Wiegman, clearly the

Curry lead car is stopped by the curb, and two policemen are beside it and

the JFK limo is far ahead; in McIntire (and Daniel), the JFK limo is passing

the Curry car. Zapruder shows the Curry car in the underpass, not parked

by the curb. Daniel shows the Curry car far ahead, being passed by JFK,

with LBJ and Halfback finally coming into the picture...but Wiegman shows

Curry and Halfback stopped by the curb with the two cops. Bell shows the

opposite view from Daniel. I believe that only Wiegman is genuine, with

the other films made to conform to each other and the official story.

I believe that the implications of the single Wiegman clear frame were

overooked by the tamperers.

Jack

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Stranger and stranger. How could they fake the car's movement in the X film?

"They" didn't.

This demolishes the Zapruder film? :lol:

This is soooo typical Jack White. Presenting his observations as facts, and then drawing conclusions from it.

Maybe we should be a bit more critical:

A - If an officer and motorcycle to begin with, how is this officer Chaney?

B - How is this officer Ellis, if anyone? I don't see an officer talking to anyone, and certainly not Curry.

C - Chief Curry in the stopped lead car? Gee, Jack can see everyone and everything in blobs of light and shadows.

JFK's car is that blob under the triple underpass? Sure? So an officer would already have parked his bike at the side of the street and stepped off it in the time between the last headshot and JFK's car speeding away under the underpass????

Key question: What was the reason for all this tricking and faking that Jack sees? And if they faked so many films, why did they overlook Wiegman? :huh:

Wim

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Bell appears to show the Curry car leading the Limo into the underpass.

More mystery - the train, clearly seen in Wiegman across the overpass, is not in Bell.

One of these is either taken at another time/day or there was a train moving, or....?!

'Who's zoomin' who?'

Oh please Peter....show us the train!

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The car that takes up much of the Weigman frame is the so-called telephone car, the fifth car behind JFK's limo.

It therefore appears that the two cars shown ahead of it on the left are LBJ's security car and whichever car was behind it.

I can't make much sense of the blurry objects to the left of the cars, except for what looks like an unmanned motorcycle. I first thought that it could be Hargis's, where he left it to run across the street, but it appears to be too far down Elm to be Hargis's.

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Bell appears to show the Curry car leading the Limo into the underpass.

Robin...I am fully AWARE of ALL the officially sanctioned films and

photos which dispute what is seen in in the Wiegman frame. I looked

at EVERY photo of the lead car before doing the Wiegman study

in relation to Costella's witnesses "smoking gun".

But remember, ALL the photos and films that we have support the

OFFICIAL VERSION of the assassination, not what the witnesses said.

This Wiegman frame SUPPORTS THE WITNESSES, and somehow

escaped destruction.

It shows THE LEAD CAR STOPPED BY THE SOUTH CURB AND TWO

MOTORCYCLE COPS STANDING BY THE CURRY CAR AS DESCRIBED

BY ELLIS AND CHANEY.

Until someone can explain the two light colored hardtop sedans in

Wiegman being other than Curry and Halfback, I have to presume

that the Wiegman frame represents reality, and therefore images

that show something else are unexplainable. Both cannot be true.

Thanks.

Jack

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The car that takes up much of the Weigman frame is the so-called telephone car, the fifth car behind JFK's limo.

It therefore appears that the two cars shown ahead of it on the left are LBJ's security car and whichever car was behind it.

I can't make much sense of the blurry objects to the left of the cars, except for what looks like an unmanned motorcycle. I first thought that it could be Hargis's, where he left it to run across the street, but it appears to be too far down Elm to be Hargis's.

Ron...the "so-called telephone car" was called the Press Pool Car carrying the reporters

from the major news services, including AP's Merriman Smith. It was on loan from the telephone

company and did have a mobile phone (rare in those days).

If you check, as I did, there were four HARDTOP cars at the front of the parade...

1. Pilot Car...white Ford

2. Lead Car...white Ford

3. Halfback...pale yellow Mercury (seen in Altgens behind LBJ)

4. Press Pool...gray Chevrolet

The Pilot Car was ahead of the lead motorcycles, and cannot be in Wiegman.

THREE HARDTOP CARS ARE SEEN IN WIEGMAN. The Chevy Press Pool car is

in the foreground.

The OTHER TWO CARS CAN ONLY BE CURRY AND HALFBACK! All others were

convertibles. Check it out, and tell me what the two sedans are ahead of the

Press Pool car.

Jack

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This is the most significant discovery I have made in a very long while.

The famous single clear frame in Wiegman shows the Curry lead car

stopped by the south curb and two motorcops standing in the street

beside it...as the JFK limo is about to enter the underpass. This

demolishes the Zapruder film.

It fits precisely the testimony of officers Chaney and Ellis.

I am sending the graphic to Bernice to post for me as soon

as she can.

Jack

PS...I will soon have a new computer and will be able to

post images again.

*********************

Jack......

B.....

Why has the image Bernice posted for me been removed????

On my screen, there is only a white square. All other images are

not affected...only my Wiegman study!

Jack

THE IMAGE HAS BEEN RESTORED AFTER BEING MISSING FOR A WHILE.

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The car that takes up much of the Weigman frame is the so-called telephone car, the fifth car behind JFK's limo.

It therefore appears that the two cars shown ahead of it on the left are LBJ's security car and whichever car was behind it.

I can't make much sense of the blurry objects to the left of the cars, except for what looks like an unmanned motorcycle. I first thought that it could be Hargis's, where he left it to run across the street, but it appears to be too far down Elm to be Hargis's.

Ron...the "so-called telephone car" was called the Press Pool Car carrying the reporters

from the major news services, including AP's Merriman Smith. It was on loan from the telephone

company and did have a mobile phone (rare in those days).

If you check, as I did, there were four HARDTOP cars at the front of the parade...

1. Pilot Car...white Ford

2. Lead Car...white Ford

3. Halfback...pale yellow Mercury (seen in Altgens behind LBJ)

4. Press Pool...gray Chevrolet

The Pilot Car was ahead of the lead motorcycles, and cannot be in Wiegman.

THREE HARDTOP CARS ARE SEEN IN WIEGMAN. The Chevy Press Pool car is

in the foreground.

The OTHER TWO CARS CAN ONLY BE CURRY AND HALFBACK! All others were

convertibles. Check it out, and tell me what the two sedans are ahead of the

Press Pool car.

Jack

All of that is based on speculation that there are TWO cars seen in front of the camera car. However careful inspection shows that your second "car" is simply lateral image smear caused by camera movement during exposure. This smear is consistant with the other smears present in the image.

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I'll share with everyone what Gary Mack had to say to me about this ...

"Hi Bill,

What do I think of Jack White's latest stop-the-presses discovery? Not much.

First of all, the Wiegman "smoke" frame corresponds to approximately Z441, which times out to just seven seconds after the head shot. That's very little time for automobiles and motorcycles to go anywhere from a starting speed of 11mph (which is 16 feet per second).

"Officer A" is Bobby Hargis, who had just dismounted and was about to run north across Elm Street. "C" cannot be Curry, who was already in the underpass (see the Bell film or Z444, which corresponds to 1/6 second after the Wiegman frame). "Officer B" is a blurred combination of two figures: a street light pole on the divider between Main & Elm Street, and Officer B.J. Martin, who continued riding forward in the south lane of Elm (as is apparent in a few frames of the Bell film.

I cannot explain the story told by Sgt. Steve Ellis for he, based on the Paschall and Bell films, was in the underpass ahead of Curry at the time of the fatal shot. Perhaps like many others over the years, Ellis embellished his story? After all, who would want to admit an assassination had just taken place a few feet behind him yet the officer never knew it until another cop, Jim Chaney, told him?

Gary Mack"

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<B>I'll share with everyone what Gary Mack had...

I cannot explain the story told by Sgt. Steve Ellis for he, based on the Paschall and Bell films, was in the underpass ahead of Curry at the time of the fatal shot. Perhaps like many others over the years, Ellis embellished his story? After all, who would want to admit an assassination had just taken place a few feet behind him yet the officer never knew it until another cop, Jim Chaney, told him? Gary Mack"[/i]

And what of Chaney's own words, as supported by Altgens #5, and other supporting testimony? Or is that all a bit too difficult to deal with in the absence of a more comprehensive briefing?

You're in questionable 'company' if you are 'tight' w/ Mr. Mack...I've called him out publicly in another thread to post publicly - or go back to Langley.

What oft was thought, Peter, but ne'er so well expressed. Reminds me of the utility of a long-forgotten dig at Edmund Burke:

Oft have I wondered that on Dallas ground

No poison toad has e'er been found.

Stands revealed the secret of that city's great lack

She saved it all to create a Mack!

With apologies to Burns.

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