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When COPA - the Coalition on Political Assassinations was first being formed, it was suggested that some day a network of independent researchers who had already worked on solving the US political assassinations of the 60s, would be ready to help prevent or solve future political assassinations when ever they would occur.

While the assassination of Bhutto was shocking, and will have an impact on what now happens for some time to come, we shouldn't be surprised that political assassination is still being used as a routine tool of action, especially in that corner of the world.

The very first BBC commentator on Bhutto's murder that I heard mentioned the assassination of President Kennedy, and how that murder sparked the same type of questions, unrest and insecurity that this assassination has brought on.

In addition, 9/11 was preceeded by two days the political assassination of the leader of the Northern Alliance by the same perpetrators, but that muder went practically unnoticed and unhearled.

If you look at the early edition newspapers from September 11, 2001, there is, of course, no mention of the attacks that took place that day, but there is, burried somewhere in the back pages, a small news article about the assassination of the leader of the Northen Alliance in Afghanistan.

Now will this assassination, like the one in September 2001, be a preliminary attack, setting the stage for something bigger?

BK

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When COPA - the Coalition on Political Assassinations was first being formed, it was suggested that some day a network of independent researchers who had already worked on solving the US political assassinations of the 60s, would be ready to help prevent or solve future political assassinations when ever they would occur.

While the assassination of Bhutto was shocking, and will have an impact on what now happens for some time to come, we shouldn't be surprised that political assassination is still being used as a routine tool of action, especially in that corner of the world.

The very first BBC commentator on Bhutto's murder that I heard mentioned the assassination of President Kennedy, and how that murder sparked the same type of questions, unrest and insecurity that this assassination has brought on.

In addition, 9/11 was preceeded by two days the political assassination of the leader of the Northern Alliance by the same perpetrators, but that muder went practically unnoticed and unhearled.

If you look at the early edition newspapers from September 11, 2001, there is, of course, no mention of the attacks that took place that day, but there is, burried somewhere in the back pages, a small news article about the assassination of the leader of the Northen Alliance in Afghanistan.

Now will this assassination, like the one in September 2001, be a preliminary attack, setting the stage for something bigger?

BK

according to FOX News OBL has a communique coming out today, sometime....

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For a very enlightening 50 minute talk on who overthrew and had her father killed [hint: Kissinger et al], who had her brothers killed [hint: US proxies] and who likely killed her listen or view here: http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/28/pak...benazir_bhuttos

...and the latest bull is that she died from self-inflicted wounds...the same old tattered how-to-kill-a-progressive by the regressives book is being used.....a well-worn book.

NB. The US Govt. announced a FEW HOURS BEFORE her assassination they were sending troops to Pakistan. I'll post the details later.

What did they know, and when did they know it?

I doubt the US was behind the assassination she seems to have been Washington’s “Man in Pakistan”. The people/groups with motive for wanting to bump her off were:

1) Al Qeada and other Islamist extremist groups

2) General Musharaff

3) Nawaz Sharif who is now the most prominent secular opposition politician

As for who was behind the coup against her father I wouldn’t be surprised is the CIA had a role but I doubt Kissinger did since it happened during the Carter Administration. I’d like to see further evidence than the unreferenced claim by a political activist/journalist that the US was involved. That’s NOT what the radio show was about which focused more on the current situation.

“The US Govt. announced a FEW HOURS BEFORE her assassination they were sending troops to Pakistan”

I don’t think there was an announcement the story seems to have leaked out but Bush administration has wanted to do so for quite a while IIRC Obama said something about he would do so with or without Musharraff’s permission

I don't see a link between the two events

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VERY Preliminary Thoughts

BK's post speaks to us in terms of our special responsibility to respond with hard-earned wisdom and courage to this and other political assassinations. His reference to events of 9/9/01 is spot-on.

Let's start calmly and with focus.

1. Who benefits?

2. Segregate the "how" question from the "who" and "why" inquiries -- to the degree that we can.

As I write, we have been told that the cause of death was head trauma caused when Bhutto dropped from her through-the-sunroof perch after having been shot. Immediately we are put in mind of the Rabin hit, and how evidence suggests that he might have been killed after initial shots were fired and he entered his security vehicle.

Who was inside her SUV?

How, if at all, was security stripped/denied?

Was her SUV equipped with security glass and armor?

Was an autospy conducted? If not, why not? If so, who was/were the prosector(s), and where is the report?

Etc. We all know the drill.

3. Now it's on to the cui bono? stage.

The short answer: Anyone who stands to gain from chaos in the region.

Include in that group the masters of George Bush -- which is to say, the perpetrators of 9-11.

4. If "follow the money" was Watergate's mantra, the investigative mantra of all other intel ops must be "question the timing."

So ... Why now?

Finally: How can we leverage the aftermath of this tragedy to assist in our efforts to define and achieve justice for JFK?

For starters.

Charles

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As I write, we have been told that the cause of death was head trauma caused when Bhutto dropped from her through-the-sunroof perch after having been shot. Immediately we are put in mind of the Rabin hit, and how evidence suggests that he might have been killed after initial shots were fired and he entered his security vehicle.

Who was inside her SUV?

Outstanding - the practical application of the key paradigm.

From the POV of the beneficiaries of the war on abstract nouns, the assassination is such a timely boon:

the nascent Caliphate gets nukes;

US special forces get bases on the Iran border;

India is compelled to move even further into the sea powers embrace;

the MIC gets a huge shot in the arm.

And that's only four. Yes, one sees at once why we can discount CIA involvement.

Paul

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From the POV of the beneficiaries of the war on abstract nouns, the assassination is such a timely boon:

the nascent Caliphate gets nukes;

US special forces get bases on the Iran border;

India is compelled to move even further into the sea powers embrace;

the MIC gets a huge shot in the arm.

And that's only four. Yes, one sees at once why we can discount CIA involvement.

Three more:

the US protection racket can rachet up a level to ensure the newly-menaced Gulf States continue to trade oil in dollars; and spend their vast reserves on yet more US weaponry they will likely never use and will never really control;

the next US President will have her foreign policy options determined before she gets her feet under the White House desk;

a narrative has now been established which permits the US to despose of Musharraf and blame it on either Al Qaeda or Bhutto's supporters.

Favourite nonsense question of the moment comes from the Times online: Can Pakistan democracy survive?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...o&HBX_OU=50

Bronwen Maddox, take a bow.

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VERY Preliminary Thoughts

BK's post speaks to us in terms of our special responsibility to respond with hard-earned wisdom and courage to this and other political assassinations. His reference to events of 9/9/01 is spot-on.

Let's start calmly and with focus.

1. Who benefits?

Mr Rigby seems to have nailed that.

2. Segregate the "how" question from the "who" and "why" inquiries -- to the degree that we can.

As I write, we have been told that the cause of death was head trauma caused when Bhutto dropped from her through-the-sunroof perch after having been shot. Immediately we are put in mind of the Rabin hit, and how evidence suggests that he might have been killed after initial shots were fired and he entered his security vehicle.

Who was inside her SUV?

Security staff and?

How, if at all, was security stripped/denied?

Was her SUV equipped with security glass and armor?

Yes. Early reports here were along the lines that a last minute decision for one last wave through the sun roof from her armored vehicle cost her her life. This means the assassin just got lucky, being in precisely the right place at precisely the right time.

Was an autospy conducted? If not, why not? If so, who was/were the prosector(s), and where is the report?

No, but a push for one is gaining momentum given the shifts in the official accounts of her wounds.

Etc. We all know the drill.

3. Now it's on to the cui bono? stage.

The short answer: Anyone who stands to gain from chaos in the region.

Include in that group the masters of George Bush -- which is to say, the perpetrators of 9-11.

4. If "follow the money" was Watergate's mantra, the investigative mantra of all other intel ops must be "question the timing."

So ... Why now?

Finally: How can we leverage the aftermath of this tragedy to assist in our efforts to define and achieve justice for JFK?

Good question. An answer may become clearer as this story progresses.

For starters.

Charles

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...a narrative has now been established which permits the US to depose/dispose of Musharraf and blame it on either Al Qaeda or Bhutto's supporters.

Interim replacement: General Ashfaq Kiyani, loyal servant of the American totalitarian imperium

http://www.guardian.co.uk/pakistan/Story/0,,2233092,00.html

Sharif to follow, it would appear, but what then?

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However, one of Miss Bhutto's aide rejected the government's explanation of her death as a "pack of lies".

Telegraph TV: Benazir Bhutto's funeral in Garhi Khuda Bakhsh

Brigadier Javed Cheema, a ministry spokesman, said Miss Bhutto had died from a head wound she sustained when she smashed against the sunroof's lever as she tried to shelter inside the car.

"The lever struck near her right ear and fractured her skull," Mr Cheema said.

But the explanation was ridiculed by Farooq Naik, Miss Bhutto's top lawyer and a senior official in her Pakistan People's Party.

"It is baseless. It is a pack of lies," he said.

"Two bullets hit her, one in the abdomen and one in the head. It was a serious security lapse."

Love to know how a bullet hit her in the abdomen if the shooter was indeed firing from below - and Bhutto was protected from the chest down!

The acting head of Miss Bhutto's party, Amin Fahim, admitted that she could have survived the blast if she had not stood up through the sunroof of her vehicle to acknowledge her supporters.

"She fell down in the seat and we thought she was unconscious. She could have survived had she been sitting," said Mr Fahim.

Doubt it - see above!

Does anyone have a reliable source for the inhabitants of Bhutto's vehicle at the time of the shooting?

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Guest Gary Loughran

FWIW, I was intrigued by the (what I believe to be) first responses from the leaders of the US and UK.

Bush talked of "extremists" and Browne of "terrorists". There is a distinction....they are running, apparently, a War on Terror, not extremism. We all know it's democracy that is suffering. I just wonder if Bushes statement was worded with consideration and gives insight into his thinking if that's not an oxymoron.

I await the foundation of Al Qaeda Pakistan, nearly as ludicrous as the perfectly times formation of Al Qaeda Iraq, one of the most insulting abuses of peoples intelligence.

Winston we were always at war with.....!!!!

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Karachi, 27 Dec. (AKI) - (by Syed Saleem Shahzad) - A spokesperson for the al-Qaeda terrorist network has claimed responsibility for the death on Thursday of former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto.

“We terminated the most precious American asset which vowed to defeat [the] mujahadeen,” Al-Qaeda’s commander and main spokesperson Mustafa Abu Al-Yazid told Adnkronos International (AKI) in a phone call from an unknown location, speaking in faltering English. Al-Yazid is the main al-Qaeda commander in Afghanistan.

http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Secur...=1.0.1710322437

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Karachi, 27 Dec. (AKI) - (by Syed Saleem Shahzad) - A spokesperson for the al-Qaeda terrorist network has claimed responsibility for the death on Thursday of former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto.

...Mustafa Abu Al-Yazid ...

Very obliging. I wonder if he was paid in dollars - or euros?

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Karachi, 27 Dec. (AKI) - (by Syed Saleem Shahzad) - A spokesperson for the al-Qaeda terrorist network has claimed responsibility for the death on Thursday of former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto.

“We terminated the most precious American asset which vowed to defeat [the] mujahadeen,” Al-Qaeda’s commander and main spokesperson Mustafa Abu Al-Yazid told Adnkronos International (AKI) in a phone call from an unknown location, speaking in faltering English. Al-Yazid is the main al-Qaeda commander in Afghanistan.

http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Secur...=1.0.1710322437

Very interesting images.....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/28/b...lo_n_78599.html

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Karachi, 27 Dec. (AKI) - (by Syed Saleem Shahzad) - A spokesperson for the al-Qaeda terrorist network has claimed responsibility for the death on Thursday of former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto.

...Mustafa Abu Al-Yazid ...

Very obliging. I wonder if he was paid in dollars - or euros?

Paul - neither you nor I can say with any certainty what happened. Speculation about a US-inspired / motivated assassination may be perfectly correct.... but you cannot discount a simple assassination by opposing factions who were not motivated / coerced / paid by / whatever US interests.

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