Bhutto Post-Mortem Contrasted to JFK autopsy

[Charles Drago]

I ... am deadly serious when I say that that ... lots of the ISI and Pakistani Military took 'Dallas 101' courses at the School of the Americas - or some equivalent!....

Peter,

You have articulated a most significant concept -- one that too few of us have appreciated for some time.

The Dallas production, in all of its dramaturgy, stands as the template for subsequent stagings along similar thematic lines.

[Michael Hogan]

Scotland Yard to assist investigation: http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/stor...7192595,00.html

[Terry Adams]

"And then there is the cynical view. In some ways, the lack of a definitive answer suits all sides. The government can maintain its story that an al-Qaeda suicide bomb plot killed Bhutto, thus exonerating itself from negligence at best and complicity at worst. Meanwhile the PPP can leverage the insinuation of government culpability to keep Bhutto's death relevant as Pakistan prepares for the elections she died campaigning for. With reporting by Khuda Yar Khan/Islamabad"

Does this sound familiar as well, disinformationalists are at work here too! In reading the entire article, all one had to do was switch the names from Bhutto to JFK, and see that they are frighteningly similar. Another big issue is the Islamic faith about respecting the body, whereas it was to "protect" the Kennedy family that an autopsy was not done, nor will there be an exhumation (for the same reasons).

Terry

[Len Colby]

It's impossible for me to watch the Pakistani government's assassination of Bhutto without noting the similarities to the US government's assassination of President Kennedy:

-The quickly changing accounts of her wounds--first bullet holes, then they ultimately claim she bumped her nogin on the SUV.

-The immediate cleanup of the crime scene--literally hosing down the rally site just like the SS washing up the limo and the clothes.

-Obviously the lack of a legitimate autopsy.

That was at her husband's insisitence, do you think he was involved?

[Charles Drago]

It's impossible for me to watch the Pakistani government's assassination of Bhutto without noting the similarities to the US government's assassination of President Kennedy:

-The quickly changing accounts of her wounds--first bullet holes, then they ultimately claim she bumped her nogin on the SUV.

-The immediate cleanup of the crime scene--literally hosing down the rally site just like the SS washing up the limo and the clothes.

-Obviously the lack of a legitimate autopsy.

That was at her husband's insisitence, do you think he was involved?

Criminal naïveté personified as "Colby."

But for what purpose?

To treat his posts with even a modicum of respect is to play the enemy's game.

"Colby's" masters treat us with contempt. Does "he" represent their best efforts?

Or do they know something about us we dare not confront?

Charles

[Ron Ecker]

There is another notable example of avoidance of an autopsy in a controversial politician's demise. According to pathologists who examined the body, plane-crash victim Ron Brown, Clinton's soon to be indicted secretary of commerce, appeared to have a bullet hole in the top of his head. But an autopsy, which should have been automatic, was not performed, partly, as I recall, because the military head of the pathologists said there was no bullet wound (some object must have hit him square in the top of the head in the crash), and partly through pressure from the White House, which wanted that body back in Washington. (Since the military was already in possess of Brown's body, it didn't have to be stolen.)

[Len Colby]

It's impossible for me to watch the Pakistani government's assassination of Bhutto without noting the similarities to the US government's assassination of President Kennedy:

-The quickly changing accounts of her wounds--first bullet holes, then they ultimately claim she bumped her nogin on the SUV.

-The immediate cleanup of the crime scene--literally hosing down the rally site just like the SS washing up the limo and the clothes.

-Obviously the lack of a legitimate autopsy.

That was at her husband's insisitence, do you think he was involved?

Criminal naïveté personified as "Colby."

But for what purpose?

To treat his posts with even a modicum of respect is to play the enemy's game.

"Colby's" masters treat us with contempt. Does "he" represent their best efforts?

Or do they know something about us we dare not confront?

Charles

Your paranoid delusions are getting the best of you Charles; I have no “masters”. How is stating an undisputed fact about the case* “Criminal naïveté”**? Do you think her husband may have been coerced into saying he didn’t want an autopsy or do you think he was part of the plot?

*

Asif Zardari says he denied permission for Benazir autopsy

NAUDERO, Pakistan, Dec 30 (AFP) - Benazir Bhutto's husband said Sunday he denied the Pakistani government permission to conduct an autopsy, saying he had lived in the country “long enough to know” how it would have been handled. “I chose not to give them permission for an autopsy,” Asif Ali Zardari told a news conference presenting the couple's son Bilawal as the new leader of Bhutto's party. “I've lived here long enough to know how and where the autopsy would have been conducted,” he said, adding that any autopsy would have been “useless”. He called for a UN probe into her death. (Posted @ 21:08 PST)

http://www.dawn.com/2007/12/30/rss.htm

See similar accounts here:

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p...1-12-2007_pg1_1

http://www.nation.com.pk/daily/dec-2007/31/index1.php

http://209.85.165.104/search?sourceid=navc...150537.gedlmu4q

http://www.euronews.net/index.php?page=inf...62644&lng=1

** Whatever that’s supposed to mean.

[Pat Speer]

The whole thing was out of the 'how to run you own Dallas' handbook. The Police hosed down the crime-scene removing all of the blood and evidence within two hours and before any forensic work was done......voila....the only 'evidence' is what the government tells you...even if some real evidence that slips by contradicts. If the Pakistani Military [read govt. and/or ] ISI didn't have the plan and the cover-up, WTC-7 fell by fire.

Peter, there are a few notable differences between the assassinations as well, that make me optimistic this one will reach a better resolve.

1. After the release of the Pakistani "Zapruder" film, showing that Bhutto had collapsed during the shots and BEFORE the explosion, and had not hit her head on the car, the Pakistani government reversed itself and acknowledged that their earlier pronouncement that she hit her head on the car was pure guesswork, and obviously wrong.

2. The Pakistani doctors spoke up and made clear that their inspection was not a forensic one, and that a thorough autopsy needed to be performed.

3. The failure to perform an autopsy is chiefly and openly the fault of Bhutto's husband, who is blatantly hoping that he can use the mysterious circumstances of her death to imply that Musharraf was the mastermind, and win the upcoming elections with a "sympathy" vote. If he really gave a damn who killed his wife, he'd be campaigning to have his own doctors perform an autopsy. Since he is impeding the investigation and trying to use her death for his own gain, astonishingly, one cannot rule out that he was somehow involved.

4. The Pakistani government has requested the help of Scotland Yard. While this could just be for show, it's certainly possible this was done in good faith.

I suspect that a proper autopsy, once performed, will indicate that she was killed by the second of three shots fired, and that this shot deflected off the back right side of her head above her right ear. This would explain the wide area of damage, the lack of an entrance wound, the lifting of the scarf in the video, and the lack of a bullet. Ironically, the fatal shot at 313 killed Kennedy in a similar fashion.

[Michael Hogan]

The author discusses the mainstream media's indifference to things conspiratorial, including the recent U.S. Court of Appeals decision regarding the CIA and its Joannides files.

December 31, 2007

Bhutto, JFK, and Conspiracies

Jacob Hornberger's Commentary

http://www.swnewsherald.com/online_content..._hor_bhutto.php

[Duke Lane]

The author [of the above linked article] discusses the mainstream media's indifference to things conspiratorial, including the recent U.S. Court of Appeals decision regarding the CIA and its Joannides files. ....

From said article:

Now, notice that no one in the mainstream press is screaming, "Conspiracy theory! Conspiracy theory!" in response to the suspicion that Pakistani intelligence agencies might have been behind the Bhutto killing. On the contrary, the mainstream press is actually treating such a conspiracy as a viable possibility.

Yet, whenever someone suggests that U.S. intelligence agencies might have been involved in the JFK killing, the immediate attitude of the U.S. mainstream press is exactly the opposite: "Conspiracy theory! Conspiracy theory!"

The difference, of course, is that Pakistan is a "banana republic;" the USA is not. QED.