Karl Kinaski Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 (edited) There was no shooter in the easternmost-window 6th floor of the SBDB. That not means there was nobody at all. The Powell photo proves, there was somebody, holding something in his hand, when Oswald, according to the WCR, was on the stairs down to the second floor. The man in the Powell pic couldnt be Oswald. But what is he holding? When I read the testimony of Amos euins, it struck me: that could be a telephoto, to document the crime. Quote: WC- Hearings Mr. Specter. Tell us what you saw as the motorcade went by. Mr. Euins. I was standing here on the comer. And then the President come around the corner right here. And I was standing here. And I was waving, because there wasn't hardly no one on the corner right there but me. I was waving. He looked that way and he waved back at me. And then I had seen a PIPE, you know, up there in the window, I thought it was a PIPE, some kind of pipe (...) Close quote Note: Euins saw only the PIPE not the man holding it. Seconds later he told Specter about a man, a barrel, and a man holding a GUN... My Conclusion: Euins saw a telephoto, hold by the man in the Powell pic. (Made about 20 seconds after the murder)...in another window, he saw the man with the gun... BTW: A witness called Fischer testified: FBI REPORT: December 2, 1963. Several minutes before the Presidential motorcade turned onto Houston Avenue, Edwards punched him slightly and said the words to the effect, "Look at that fellow in the window, I wonder what he is hiding from." This person in the window was located in the far right hand side corner window of the sixth floor, and could be seen by him from the neck up. He believed this man to be a white man, in his late twenties, wearing an open-neck shirt, light in color. He was fair [in complexion] and had a high forehead and light hair. To me it seems, that Edwards, Fischer and Euins saw the man, one can see in the Powell pic below, holding a telephoto with his left hand, to document the crime. zoom zoom Edited January 24, 2008 by Karl Kinaski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McMahon Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Maybe it's just me, but I don't see anything resembling a telephoto camera in this picture. On the other hand, I don't really see a man in this shot either. Is that supposed to be the sun reflecting off someone's hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathleen Collins Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 For some reason, in my blow-up, it really looks like Oswald. This program is from AOL and you can only view it large, but not save it or send it large. I also have a digital resizer, but it seems I have to save the picture and shut down my computer and then it appears in the directory. He certainly isn't hiding. John Armstrong said this was Lee Oswald, as opposed to Harvey Oswald who worked in the building. Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Kinaski Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 (edited) Maybe it's just me, but I don't see anything resembling a telephoto camera in this picture. On the other hand, I don't really see a man in this shot either. Is that supposed to be the sun reflecting off someone's hand? Resarcher Groden first published the Powell- Photo in 1993. To me the pic fits to the observations of Edwards, Fischer and Euins. Keywords: hiding man, PIPE, seen from the neck up, unusual behavior, easternmost window... Note: FBI claimed in 1964, there was nothing unusual at this pic. Here is the site I took the pic from. http://www.thecommissiononline.com/powell.htm Edited January 25, 2008 by Karl Kinaski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Pointing Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 (edited) There was no shooter in the easternmost-window 6th floor of the SBDB.That not means there was nobody at all. The Powell photo proves, there was somebody, holding something in his hand, when Oswald, according to the WCR, was on the stairs down to the second floor. The man in the Powell pic couldnt be Oswald. But what is he holding? When I read the testimony of Amos euins, it struck me: that could be a telephoto, to document the crime. Quote. Dont know what it is Karl but it still seems to be there today. So I'm guessing it ain't a guy holding a telephoto. Denis. Edited January 24, 2008 by Denis Pointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Denis. Be careful, Denis ... incorporating sensible reasoning takes all the fun out of the JFK case for some and they might not like it. I suggest that truly interested parties do a search on the Web for A. Eaglesham's work on the box arrangements and then things may appear to make more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Knight Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 What everyone seems to be missing is the true dimesnsions of the window to the floor...that is, for a person in the window to have been visible only from the shoulders up, that person would have to be either kneeling or crouching, rather than standing erect. And kneeling, IMHO, would still expose the person in the window from approximately the WAIST up, and not just from the shoulders up. Can someone post the picture of the INSIDE of the 6th floor SE corner window, from which we can gain some perspective? I believe that might just alter your opinions, if they are fact-based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) What everyone seems to be missing is the true dimesnsions of the window to the floor...that is, for a person in the window to have been visible only from the shoulders up, that person would have to be either kneeling or crouching, rather than standing erect. And kneeling, IMHO, would still expose the person in the window from approximately the WAIST up, and not just from the shoulders up.Can someone post the picture of the INSIDE of the 6th floor SE corner window, from which we can gain some perspective? I believe that might just alter your opinions, if they are fact-based. Mark...here is a photo I took showing the very cramped space in the corner, made worse by the pipes, plus the low height of the window sill. Jack Edited January 25, 2008 by Jack White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Doesn't appear to be there on Sunday Nov 24, 1963 when this footage was taken. chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) Here I am in the corner with my camera. I had just shot the photo previously attached. We closed the window after I had shot photos. Jack Edited January 25, 2008 by Jack White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Knight Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) Thanks, Jack. The second photo illustrates the point I was trying to make, that nobody was "standing" in that window if all passerbys could see was a head-and-shoulders view; the person in the window would've had to be crouching or kneeling, as you were. And for an assassin to have been only a face and a rifle, to witnesses below...I suggest the shooter would've more likely been firing from a "prone" position, perhaps raised up on his elbows, perhaps partially supported by boxes of books...but not necessarily in the configuration in which the boxes were photographed for "public consumption." And those pipes would've made for a great deal of difficulty positioning oneself in the easternmost corner of the window, IMHO. Edited January 25, 2008 by Mark Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie Hansen Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) Oswald was left handed according to his mother. Did he shoot left handed? Does anybody know? Would this have made a difference to a shot from this angle/position? N ot that I think Oswald was there by the way. Just curious. Edited January 25, 2008 by Maggie Hansen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Oswald was left handed according to his mother. Did he shoot left handed? Does anybody know? Would this have made a difference to a shot from this angle/position? Not that I think Oswald was there by the way. Just curious. Oswald was left handed according to his mother. Did he shoot left handed? Does anybody know? Would this have made a difference to a shot from this angle/position? Not that I think Oswald was there by the way. Just curious. Maggie...bolt-action military are made only for RIGHT handed people. The bolt is designed to be operated by the right hand. It is possible to pull the trigger with the left hand, but not to eject the hull and rechamber a round by working the bolt. Left handers have to learn to shoot right handed. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Burton Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 re: left / right handed. Maggie, make sure you ask did he shoot a rifle left-handed. I'm right-handed, shoot a pistol right-handed, but shoot a rifle left-handed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Bailey Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 The backyard photos of Oswald or whoever it was holding the rifle was a right-handed person... his pistol is on the right, gripping a rifle with his left hand shows a person who shoots with his right hand. If you have proof to Oswald being left-handed then you might have a case. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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