Craig Lamson Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 The Limo moved and parallax caused Kellerman to move behind Nellie. Craig Craig.....Did you mean to say Kellerman moved in front of Jackie, or do you think I have got it wrong? Duncan Thank you Duncan, your are correct, I should have typed Jackie instead of Nellie That is CONNALLY behind Jackie. What is seen is his hand. NOTE THE WHITE CUFF. Jack In the frames in your study Connally was always behind Jackie, except for his hand on the right side of Jackie. His body was hidden. As your sequence progresses Connally starts to appear on the right side of Jackie, as parallex tells us he must. And Kellerman moves to the right and is hidden by Jackie, as parallex tells us he must. Duncan has correctly identified the ear of Kellerman as it peeks out from behind the left side of Jackies head. No mystery, just poor image analysis on your part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Pointing Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 That is CONNALLY behind Jackie. What is seen is his hand. NOTE THE WHITE CUFF.Jack My arrow is pointing precisely at Kellerman's head, even more precisely, his left ear. The white cuff is just about to vanish in front of Jackie ( as we view the frame ) in the next couple of frames. Duncan If that is Kellerman THEN HE IS KISSING CONNALLY ON THE LIPS, as Connally's head can be seen on the other side of Jackie's pink hat. Jack Yes Jack, but you must admit, Connally was quite an attractive man for his age. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 There are lots of oddities in Nix. Like this. In just a few frames, what appears to be Jackie's white-gloved hand changes into Connally's waving hand. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 (edited) A little clearer, I hope. Duncan is correct. chris Edited February 29, 2008 by Chris Davidson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 (edited) There are lots of oddities in Nix. Like this.In just a few frames, what appears to be Jackie's white-gloved hand changes into Connally's waving hand. Jack Jack ... you are looking at Connally's hand on a poor print image in both instances ... I would say more, but Kathy's request prevents me from doing so - you should thank her!!! Edited February 29, 2008 by Bill Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 Are you ready for this? What was a wedding party doing watching the parade? Were you aware of the "WEDDING PARTY" filmed by Nix? Nix shows a very incongruous group in the Houston crowd. The limo passes two women in ankle length white dresses. With them is a man dressed in what could be a black tuxedo. Is somebody pulling our leg? Jack Perhaps my remark sounds condescending, but it was more for you not to be attacked for posting the wedding party photo. I think you know that there isn't a wedding party. You have alot of followers in the alteration theory who depend on you to carry the torch. I would take that very seriously, if I were you. You should consider what you present, before you present it. The topic of alteration incites alot of folks. That's what the "circumstances" were. I won't mind if my comment is edited--I just hope that if anyone responds to your questions on this photo, that they remain polite. Why else are two ladies wearing all-white ankle length dresses at noon on a Friday? Do you deny that Nix shows this? Please supply a more acceptable explanation. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 (edited) Someone (Frank or Chris?) posted an excellent scan of what had looked to me to be women in long white dresses. It shows the women appear to be two men in WHITE UNIFORMS with white shirts and white pants...certainly odd for a cool November day. I searched for an hour and could find this odd group nowhere else except Hughes. I guess the wedding is off. I am familiar with virtually every known photo of Dealey Plaza and never in ANY PHOTO have I seen two men in white uniforms. Have you? Jack Edited February 29, 2008 by Jack White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Miller Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 (edited) Someone (Frank or Chris?) posted an excellent scan of what had looked to meto be women in long white dresses. It shows the women appear to be two men in WHITE UNIFORMS with white shirts and white pants...certainly odd for a cool November day. I searched for an hour and could find this odd group nowhere else except Hughes. I guess the wedding is off Jack Well Jack ... let this be a lesson to you. Poor images make for poor interpretations. As far as it being odd that the men were in white uniforms ... I lost track of how many people I saw in custodian type uniforms, not to mention how many women dressed like Sitzman who were out in the midday sun. After all, was it not Jackie who said that she was looking forward to reaching the cool shade of the underpass. Edited February 29, 2008 by Bill Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Take your pick!!! Either a group of Giants or a bunch of Midgets. Simple explanation would do. chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 Someone (Frank or Chris?) posted an excellent scan of what had looked to meto be women in long white dresses. It shows the women appear to be two men in WHITE UNIFORMS with white shirts and white pants...certainly odd for a cool November day. I searched for an hour and could find this odd group nowhere else except Hughes. I guess the wedding is off Jack Well Jack ... let this be a lesson to you. Poor images make for poor interpretations. As far as it being odd that the men were in white uniforms ... I lost track of how many people I saw in custodian type uniforms, not to mention how many women dressed like Sitzman who were out in the midday sun. After all, was it not Jackie who said that she was looking forward to reaching the cool shade of the underpass. Listen you big XXXXXXXXXXXXX! I need no lectures from you. I used the best images available to me. Apparently Chris and Frank have access to better copies of the Nix film than available on the Groden DVD. So quit your preaching, you XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX! Go away. Have a nice day. Somewhere else. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 Take your pick!!!Either a group of Giants or a bunch of Midgets. Simple explanation would do. chris Excellent, Chris. But that is not Nix, is it? Is it Muchmore? I have been looking at Nix for two days and did not see that frame! Why are your images so excellent, and mine from the Groden DVD so poor? Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 Request of Chris for better images comparing these two frames. Thanks. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 Nix and Muchmore were almost on same line of sight. both were on the sidewalk. Why is Nix's POV so much higher? He was a short man. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 There are lots of oddities in Nix. Like this.In just a few frames, what appears to be Jackie's white-gloved hand changes into Connally's waving hand. Jack After more viewing of the movements of the hand, I have changed my opinion on this one. The hand seems to belong to Connally in both frames. In the first one he is GRIPPING THE CHROME HANDHOLD ON THE SEATBACK with fingers closed. He then lets go and raises the hand to wave. I have no idea why his hand appears white and his cuff pink, which is what made me think it belonged to Jackie. I was wrong on this one apparently. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Agbat Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 The difference in height might be the result of some people standing on the curb and others standing on the street in front of the garage entrance... Also -- using an interlaced frame for comparisons is futile. Chris -- you need to make sure you've got progressive frames. The interlacing throws off what you are doing. Honestly, to my eyes (which aren't always good, so take it for what it is worth), the wedding party seems to be a case of false attachment, but I'll look at it more and post when I get done with work (I don't have access to my files right now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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