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March 12, 2008

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Jack Worthington II Responds

Canada-based investment banker Jack Worthington II is the subject of a story in the current issue of Vanity Fair, which explores whether or not he is the long-lost son of President John F. Kennedy. Worthington has a MySpace page in which he decries the Vanity Fair piece, offers a rebuttal to his Houston family (who characterized his statements as "unequivocally false"), and calls for a boycott of the magazine and the Waverly Inn restaurant.

In addition, Worthington sent three e-mails to the magazine today and yesterday, which we reprint here.

MARCH 11 E-MAIL (Subject Field: Important Information)

…I risked public humiliation to bring this situation to public attention. You certainly did your part on public humiliation. I was hoping that ABC or Vanity Fair would discover the information below on their own, and bring a bit more light into this dark area of our history. Now, would you please look into the real story, as a matter of public service/duty? That is why I’ve come forward. I’m skeptical of the idea that American media will do anything with these facts, and that it must go international. Prove me wrong.

FACTS:

• The Bibbs were very close, lifelong friends and political allies of LBJ. Proven by letters written to Bob Bibb from LBJ contained in the LBJ library and reported by VF. My mother framed and gave me a note written to her by LBJ stating, "I had a nice talk with your daddy today. Your friend, Lyndon". Also framed LBJ inauguration invitation to my mother’s parents.

• The Bibbs were very close friends with Richmond Harper, a fellow resident, banker, business partner, and rancher of Eagle Pass, Texas (Maverick County). Richmond Harper’s name was frequently discussed in my family when growing up. I remember my family discussing it when he was arrested with Barry Seal. To verify the relationship: I believe they were co-owners of the bank that the Bibb’s owned. Or, ask any Eagle Pass old-timers about their relationship. I cannot remember the name of the bank, but the note LBJ wrote my mother is on a deposit slip. It’s in storage in the US and I can access it if needed. To locate that bank and its history officially: http://www.banking.state.tx.us/corp/bnkhistory.htm . The social network diagram for Richmond Chase Harper on http://www.namebase.org/cgi-bin/nb06?HARPER_RICHMOND_CHASE includes the Gambino family http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambino_crime_family , major Dallas/Ft Worth oilmen Clint Murchison and Sid Richardson amongst others who have been accused of being involved in the JFK assassination, and key leaders of American organized crime. Direct links.

• Richmond Harper was arrested by the FBI with Barry Seal, and Murray Kessler in 1972 for smuggling explosives and weapons to Anti-Castro Cubans in Mexico via the international border crossing at Eagle Pass (Maverick County), which the Bibb’s controlled. Comments on Richmond Harper, Barry Seal, etc… from the FBI agent assigned to investigate Barry Seal http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a395415382bea.htm

• The Bibb’s controlled the Federal international border crossing at Eagle Pass via Customs, Naturalization and Immigration, and Maverick County politically for over 30 years. Vanity Fair and the Globe and Mail have research on the Bibbs. The Bibb’s relationship dynamic with LBJ is best understood via Barr McClellan’s book.

• Barry Seal and the following people are best understood via Jim Garrison’s work (Oliver Stone movie), and subsequently Wim Dankbaar. Seal trained under David Ferrie in the Civilian Air Patrol, where he also met Lee Harvey Oswald. Seal’s New Orleans office was operated or owned by Clay Shaw. Seal’s wife has said he was involved in the assassination. Barry Seal was closely associated with the prime suspects in the JFK assassination conspiracy theory proposed by Jim Garrison (Oliver Stone). More on Barry Seal: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKseal.htm . http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CIAseal.htm Illumination on Barry Seal’s life: http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.p...d=208&aid=3 <http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.php?bid=208&aid=3> . http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6930 .

• Richmond Harper was a close friend and business partner of Murray Kessler, who was also arrested along with Seal and Harper in 1972. Murray Kessler was a nephew of mob boss Carlo Gambino.

• Douglas Valentine might be a good investigator to help out with this. http://www.douglasvalentine.com/ . Interview of Doug Valentine: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0708/S00242.htm .

• My grandfather slept with a loaded pistol under his mattress. Well-known fact by all in my family. I slept in the same room with him when visiting.

• My mother inherited an important sum of money from the Bibbs. I don’t know the amount.

• My birthdate is 2 years prior to JFK’s assassination. My sister’s birthdate is 3 years prior to RFK’s assassination (the day he was shot – around midnight 4 June).

Douglas Valentine would be a good investigator to help out with this.

http://www.douglasvalentine.com/ . Interview of Doug Valentine: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0708/S00242.htm .

It should be clear why the "Family" issued a statement disputing me. It should be clear why I’m coming forward with these facts. This is not about me. In my view, airing our dirty laundry is vitally important to the credibility of our claim to be a truly free and open society dedicated to the betterment of the human condition. In fact, I believe this purging process is awe inspiring in our world of cynicism. I’m willing to go through a public humiliation for it.

I don’t believe American journalists will go here. Prove me wrong.

MARCH 12 E-MAIL #1 (Subject Field: Additionally)

Porter Goss and George HW Bush knew Barry Seal very well.

MARCH 12 E-MAIL #2 (Subject Field: Bibb Link to Oswald)

Link from Bibb to Oswald:

In the Warren Commission interviews (Nodule 10 link: http://www.ajweberman.com/nodules2/nodulec10.htm

Under the section “TITO AND CONCHITA HARPER”

————————————————————————————————————————————————————

TITO AND CONCHITA HARPER

During his testimony before the Warren Commission, George DeMohrenschildt told Albert Jenner he had visited Tito and Conchita Harper on their ranch straddling the U.S./Mexican border. On July 3, 1972, The New York Times reported that Federal officials arrested nine men in Texas and Louisiana on charges of conspiring to smuggle munitions to Mexico. Among those arrested were Richmond C. Harper, 48, the brother of Tito Harper, a rancher and Director of the Frontier State Bank of Eagle Pass, Texas, and Marion Hagler, a former Inspector with the Immigration and Naturalization Service. Murray Kessler and Alder B. Seal were also arrested. Kessler, who was a house guest at the Harper ranch last June, had a record of six convictions in Federal and state courts on charges of interstate theft, transporting stolen property, bookmaking and conspiracy to possess heroin. Federal authorities described him as an associate of the Gambino organized-crime family.

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Richmond Harper is described as a Director of the Frontier State Bank of Eagle Pass, Texas. This is the bank owned by the Bibbs. Marion Hagler worked for the Bibbs as a Customs Inspector (the Bibbs fall guy above). This Warren Commission interview says it all. George DeMohrenschildt is a mutual friend of Lee Harvey Oswald and Richmond Harper per the Warren Commission. Seal and Kessler are CIA and Mafia respectively. JFK and RFK were assassinated on the birthday’s of Mary Evelyn Bibb’s children (my sister and I). I’ll bet it can be found that the Bibb’s were also friends of DeMohrenschildt. The Bibbs had a larger ranch outside Piedras Negras, Mexico than the Harpers, and still own it.

People are still alive to talk about this.

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March 12, 2008

The Magazine

Jack Worthington II Responds

Canada-based investment banker Jack Worthington II is the subject of a story in the current issue of Vanity Fair, which explores whether or not he is the long-lost son of President John F. Kennedy. Worthington has a MySpace page in which he decries the Vanity Fair piece, offers a rebuttal to his Houston family (who characterized his statements as "unequivocally false"), and calls for a boycott of the magazine and the Waverly Inn restaurant.

In addition, Worthington sent three e-mails to the magazine today and yesterday, which we reprint here.

MARCH 11 E-MAIL (Subject Field: Important Information)

…I risked public humiliation to bring this situation to public attention. You certainly did your part on public humiliation. I was hoping that ABC or Vanity Fair would discover the information below on their own, and bring a bit more light into this dark area of our history. Now, would you please look into the real story, as a matter of public service/duty? That is why I’ve come forward. I’m skeptical of the idea that American media will do anything with these facts, and that it must go international. Prove me wrong.

FACTS:

• The Bibbs were very close, lifelong friends and political allies of LBJ. Proven by letters written to Bob Bibb from LBJ contained in the LBJ library and reported by VF. My mother framed and gave me a note written to her by LBJ stating, "I had a nice talk with your daddy today. Your friend, Lyndon". Also framed LBJ inauguration invitation to my mother’s parents.

• The Bibbs were very close friends with Richmond Harper, a fellow resident, banker, business partner, and rancher of Eagle Pass, Texas (Maverick County). Richmond Harper’s name was frequently discussed in my family when growing up. I remember my family discussing it when he was arrested with Barry Seal. To verify the relationship: I believe they were co-owners of the bank that the Bibb’s owned. Or, ask any Eagle Pass old-timers about their relationship. I cannot remember the name of the bank, but the note LBJ wrote my mother is on a deposit slip. It’s in storage in the US and I can access it if needed. To locate that bank and its history officially: http://www.banking.state.tx.us/corp/bnkhistory.htm . The social network diagram for Richmond Chase Harper on http://www.namebase.org/cgi-bin/nb06?HARPER_RICHMOND_CHASE includes the Gambino family http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambino_crime_family , major Dallas/Ft Worth oilmen Clint Murchison and Sid Richardson amongst others who have been accused of being involved in the JFK assassination, and key leaders of American organized crime. Direct links.

• Richmond Harper was arrested by the FBI with Barry Seal, and Murray Kessler in 1972 for smuggling explosives and weapons to Anti-Castro Cubans in Mexico via the international border crossing at Eagle Pass (Maverick County), which the Bibb’s controlled. Comments on Richmond Harper, Barry Seal, etc… from the FBI agent assigned to investigate Barry Seal http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a395415382bea.htm

• The Bibb’s controlled the Federal international border crossing at Eagle Pass via Customs, Naturalization and Immigration, and Maverick County politically for over 30 years. Vanity Fair and the Globe and Mail have research on the Bibbs. The Bibb’s relationship dynamic with LBJ is best understood via Barr McClellan’s book.

• Barry Seal and the following people are best understood via Jim Garrison’s work (Oliver Stone movie), and subsequently Wim Dankbaar. Seal trained under David Ferrie in the Civilian Air Patrol, where he also met Lee Harvey Oswald. Seal’s New Orleans office was operated or owned by Clay Shaw. Seal’s wife has said he was involved in the assassination. Barry Seal was closely associated with the prime suspects in the JFK assassination conspiracy theory proposed by Jim Garrison (Oliver Stone). More on Barry Seal: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKseal.htm . http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CIAseal.htm Illumination on Barry Seal’s life: http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.p...d=208&aid=3 <http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.php?bid=208&aid=3> . http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6930 .

• Richmond Harper was a close friend and business partner of Murray Kessler, who was also arrested along with Seal and Harper in 1972. Murray Kessler was a nephew of mob boss Carlo Gambino.

• Douglas Valentine might be a good investigator to help out with this. http://www.douglasvalentine.com/ . Interview of Doug Valentine: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0708/S00242.htm .

• My grandfather slept with a loaded pistol under his mattress. Well-known fact by all in my family. I slept in the same room with him when visiting.

• My mother inherited an important sum of money from the Bibbs. I don’t know the amount.

• My birthdate is 2 years prior to JFK’s assassination. My sister’s birthdate is 3 years prior to RFK’s assassination (the day he was shot – around midnight 4 June).

Douglas Valentine would be a good investigator to help out with this.

http://www.douglasvalentine.com/ . Interview of Doug Valentine: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0708/S00242.htm .

It should be clear why the "Family" issued a statement disputing me. It should be clear why I’m coming forward with these facts. This is not about me. In my view, airing our dirty laundry is vitally important to the credibility of our claim to be a truly free and open society dedicated to the betterment of the human condition. In fact, I believe this purging process is awe inspiring in our world of cynicism. I’m willing to go through a public humiliation for it.

I don’t believe American journalists will go here. Prove me wrong.

MARCH 12 E-MAIL #1 (Subject Field: Additionally)

Porter Goss and George HW Bush knew Barry Seal very well.

MARCH 12 E-MAIL #2 (Subject Field: Bibb Link to Oswald)

Link from Bibb to Oswald:

In the Warren Commission interviews (Nodule 10 link: http://www.ajweberman.com/nodules2/nodulec10.htm

Under the section “TITO AND CONCHITA HARPER”

————————————————————————————————————————————————————

TITO AND CONCHITA HARPER

During his testimony before the Warren Commission, George DeMohrenschildt told Albert Jenner he had visited Tito and Conchita Harper on their ranch straddling the U.S./Mexican border. On July 3, 1972, The New York Times reported that Federal officials arrested nine men in Texas and Louisiana on charges of conspiring to smuggle munitions to Mexico. Among those arrested were Richmond C. Harper, 48, the brother of Tito Harper, a rancher and Director of the Frontier State Bank of Eagle Pass, Texas, and Marion Hagler, a former Inspector with the Immigration and Naturalization Service. Murray Kessler and Alder B. Seal were also arrested. Kessler, who was a house guest at the Harper ranch last June, had a record of six convictions in Federal and state courts on charges of interstate theft, transporting stolen property, bookmaking and conspiracy to possess heroin. Federal authorities described him as an associate of the Gambino organized-crime family.

———————————————————————————————————————————————————-

Richmond Harper is described as a Director of the Frontier State Bank of Eagle Pass, Texas. This is the bank owned by the Bibbs. Marion Hagler worked for the Bibbs as a Customs Inspector (the Bibbs fall guy above). This Warren Commission interview says it all. George DeMohrenschildt is a mutual friend of Lee Harvey Oswald and Richmond Harper per the Warren Commission. Seal and Kessler are CIA and Mafia respectively. JFK and RFK were assassinated on the birthday’s of Mary Evelyn Bibb’s children (my sister and I). I’ll bet it can be found that the Bibb’s were also friends of DeMohrenschildt. The Bibbs had a larger ranch outside Piedras Negras, Mexico than the Harpers, and still own it.

People are still alive to talk about this.

Seal was a friend of mine. I used to work for Radio KEPS Eagle Pass Texas, I know the Murchinsions. I am from Dallas. Peter Brewton (The Mafia CIA and George Bush; 1992; pgs 91-93-95) interviewed me many times as to some the above information.

I flew C-130's all around Iron Mountain, Eagle Pass, Lajitas MX (referenced and documented; Tri-State Drug Task Force) during the Iran/Contra resupply network. I worked an undercover federal interdiction program. Some of the information above is perhaps correct and some is not correct.

I would be very careful as to background research and where it came from on some of this information. I smell something funny here. Seal was in no way associated with Dallas and the assassination of JFK... I have gone over this years ago and produced documentation to that fact... I was called names because I would not go along with the story. I was in Mexico many times with Seal and have pictures and documentation to support that. I testified in the Seal case and I know some of the players. If you would like to talk about this with me, then Email me privately. If I do not hear from you then I know a con is in the works. Simkin has my email. and I'll be happy to talk with Mr. WorthingtonII and you in reference to this subject matter. However, I am sure some will advise you not to do that. AND that TOO, will tell me something about the credibility of this story.

http://toshplumlee.info/pdf/DEAfiles.pdf

Referenced documentation and file locator numbers:

1-99-J DH 39711 (RUC) 1989

1-99-J R- 39711-7

ITE-0653

1-99-R-DN-39711-3 10-17-89

Report of: Feb. 9, 1990 Classified Secret

SA Wayne Schmidt DEA

SA Hector Berrellez DEA

SA Susan Baldwin DEA

...also reference found as to the investigations of the murder of KiKi Camarena and his pilot Alverz. ...

... References as to Richmont Aviation Mena Ark. reference; C-130 N- 0699 P pilot W. Plumlee; C-123 pilot B Seal fuel forms; Setco aviation Costa Rico. ref; Plumlee aircraft, (Big Toad); B A Seal, aircraft (Fat Lady 1) Operation "Iron Butterfly"

It appears that with Mr. Plumlee the forum may have another Ashton Gray on its hands. We all remember him, don’t we? I have never met or corresponded with Mr. Plumlee. Yet, like Mr. Gray, Mr. Plumlee appears all too willing to engage in character assassination, implying that I am engaged in some sort of con, which is dictionary defined as a “swindle.” I have been an attorney for 38 years and this is the first time that someone, in this case a complete stranger, has used that term in connection with my professional reputation.

I got involved in the forum primarily because John Simkin started a thread on me, which can be found at

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4727

Another reason I got involved in the forum was because Alfred Baldwin was willingly answering members’ questions about Watergate. Then Mr. Gray emerged from nowhere and engaged unceasingly in character assassination against Mr. Baldwin and myself for our roles in the scandal. Mr. Baldwin, apparently taking the understandable attitude of “who needs this crap?”, withdrew from the forum and with him an invaluable source of new information into Watergate dried up, thanks to Mr. Gray.

I decided to stick with the forum and not reply to Mr. Gray’s numerous verbal assaults, expecting that his rude and insulting behavior would expand to include other members and that such activity would eventually lead to his withdrawal from the forum, which indeed is what occurred.

I do not hold myself out as an expert on the assassination of JFK. (For that matter neither does Jack Worthington II.) My strategy has always been as I uncover promising lines for research that these should be posted on the forum in the event that real experts, such as John Simkin, Pat Speer, J. Raymond Carroll and other forum members, might find a clue therein worth further pursuit.

Mr. Worthington’s contention as to his JFK parentage has already produced one great embarrassment for two eminent scholars. Robert Caro and J. Robert Dallek, who are acknowledged as the foremost biographers of LBJ, are quoted in the April 2008 Vanity Fair article, “A Claim to Camelot”, as stating on page 238 that “they’ve never come across a reference to Johnson residing with” Maverick County Judge Robert Bibb.

Yet the Toronto Globe and Mail of February 18, 2008, in its article on the Bibbs’ relationship to Jack Worthington II, reported from Maverick County that “Lyndon Johnson spent the night at our house and my father spent the night in the White House,” said Gravis Bibb, the judge’s son. “My father was a very, very good friend of LBJ. They were buddies going way back.”

So here is a promising line of inquiry into the life and times of LBJ, heretofore not known, that serendipitously has been opened up as a result of the effort by Jack Worthington II to establish his parentage.

Mr. Plumlee appears above to object to the contents of the emails of Jack Worthington II that can be viewed on Vanity Fair’s blog. Vanity Fair saw fit to post these, so it is safe to assume that the magazine believed they are worthy of public attention.

Mr. Plumlee, like Mr. Gray, must learn one of life’s most basic lessons: employing common courtesy and good manners usually cause strangers to respond reciprocally, thus achieving one’s goal, whereas insults and boorishness get one nowhere.

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I did read in the past that Barry Seals widow made the statement that Seal flew a getaway plane out of Dallas after the JFK assasination.Source Daniel Hopsicker i guess.

Since Wim Dankbaar is mentioned by Mr. Caddy, and knowing Wim a little, would it be safe to say that

your client was approached by Mr. Dankbaar, either directly or indirectly in the last weeks.

Mr. Caddy ?

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I did read in the past that Barry Seals widow made the statement that Seal flew a getaway plane out of Dallas after the JFK assasination.Source Daniel Hopsicker i guess.

Since Wim Dankbaar is mentioned by Mr. Caddy, and knowing Wim a little, would it be safe to say that

your client was approached by Mr. Dankbaar, either directly or indirectly in the last weeks.

Mr. Caddy ?

If you wish an answer to this, you should direct your question to Mr. Dankbaar.

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I did read in the past that Barry Seals widow made the statement that Seal flew a getaway plane out of Dallas after the JFK assasination.Source Daniel Hopsicker i guess.

Since Wim Dankbaar is mentioned by Mr. Caddy, and knowing Wim a little, would it be safe to say that

your client was approached by Mr. Dankbaar, either directly or indirectly in the last weeks.

Mr. Caddy ?

If you wish an answer to this, you should direct your question to Mr. Dankbaar.

Mr. Caddy,

there is no need for me to ask Wim.

I found my answer already in what you posted above.

Thank you for taking the time to reply to my post.

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March 12, 2008

The Magazine

Jack Worthington II Responds

Canada-based investment banker Jack Worthington II is the subject of a story in the current issue of Vanity Fair, which explores whether or not he is the long-lost son of President John F. Kennedy. Worthington has a MySpace page in which he decries the Vanity Fair piece, offers a rebuttal to his Houston family (who characterized his statements as "unequivocally false"), and calls for a boycott of the magazine and the Waverly Inn restaurant.

In addition, Worthington sent three e-mails to the magazine today and yesterday, which we reprint here.

MARCH 11 E-MAIL (Subject Field: Important Information)

…I risked public humiliation to bring this situation to public attention. You certainly did your part on public humiliation. I was hoping that ABC or Vanity Fair would discover the information below on their own, and bring a bit more light into this dark area of our history. Now, would you please look into the real story, as a matter of public service/duty? That is why I’ve come forward. I’m skeptical of the idea that American media will do anything with these facts, and that it must go international. Prove me wrong.

FACTS:

• The Bibbs were very close, lifelong friends and political allies of LBJ. Proven by letters written to Bob Bibb from LBJ contained in the LBJ library and reported by VF. My mother framed and gave me a note written to her by LBJ stating, "I had a nice talk with your daddy today. Your friend, Lyndon". Also framed LBJ inauguration invitation to my mother’s parents.

• The Bibbs were very close friends with Richmond Harper, a fellow resident, banker, business partner, and rancher of Eagle Pass, Texas (Maverick County). Richmond Harper’s name was frequently discussed in my family when growing up. I remember my family discussing it when he was arrested with Barry Seal. To verify the relationship: I believe they were co-owners of the bank that the Bibb’s owned. Or, ask any Eagle Pass old-timers about their relationship. I cannot remember the name of the bank, but the note LBJ wrote my mother is on a deposit slip. It’s in storage in the US and I can access it if needed. To locate that bank and its history officially: http://www.banking.state.tx.us/corp/bnkhistory.htm . The social network diagram for Richmond Chase Harper on http://www.namebase.org/cgi-bin/nb06?HARPER_RICHMOND_CHASE includes the Gambino family http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambino_crime_family , major Dallas/Ft Worth oilmen Clint Murchison and Sid Richardson amongst others who have been accused of being involved in the JFK assassination, and key leaders of American organized crime. Direct links.

• Richmond Harper was arrested by the FBI with Barry Seal, and Murray Kessler in 1972 for smuggling explosives and weapons to Anti-Castro Cubans in Mexico via the international border crossing at Eagle Pass (Maverick County), which the Bibb’s controlled. Comments on Richmond Harper, Barry Seal, etc… from the FBI agent assigned to investigate Barry Seal http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a395415382bea.htm

• The Bibb’s controlled the Federal international border crossing at Eagle Pass via Customs, Naturalization and Immigration, and Maverick County politically for over 30 years. Vanity Fair and the Globe and Mail have research on the Bibbs. The Bibb’s relationship dynamic with LBJ is best understood via Barr McClellan’s book.

• Barry Seal and the following people are best understood via Jim Garrison’s work (Oliver Stone movie), and subsequently Wim Dankbaar. Seal trained under David Ferrie in the Civilian Air Patrol, where he also met Lee Harvey Oswald. Seal’s New Orleans office was operated or owned by Clay Shaw. Seal’s wife has said he was involved in the assassination. Barry Seal was closely associated with the prime suspects in the JFK assassination conspiracy theory proposed by Jim Garrison (Oliver Stone). More on Barry Seal: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKseal.htm . http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CIAseal.htm Illumination on Barry Seal’s life: http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.p...d=208&aid=3 <http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.php?bid=208&aid=3> . http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6930 .

• Richmond Harper was a close friend and business partner of Murray Kessler, who was also arrested along with Seal and Harper in 1972. Murray Kessler was a nephew of mob boss Carlo Gambino.

• Douglas Valentine might be a good investigator to help out with this. http://www.douglasvalentine.com/ . Interview of Doug Valentine: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0708/S00242.htm .

• My grandfather slept with a loaded pistol under his mattress. Well-known fact by all in my family. I slept in the same room with him when visiting.

• My mother inherited an important sum of money from the Bibbs. I don’t know the amount.

• My birthdate is 2 years prior to JFK’s assassination. My sister’s birthdate is 3 years prior to RFK’s assassination (the day he was shot – around midnight 4 June).

Douglas Valentine would be a good investigator to help out with this.

http://www.douglasvalentine.com/ . Interview of Doug Valentine: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0708/S00242.htm .

It should be clear why the "Family" issued a statement disputing me. It should be clear why I’m coming forward with these facts. This is not about me. In my view, airing our dirty laundry is vitally important to the credibility of our claim to be a truly free and open society dedicated to the betterment of the human condition. In fact, I believe this purging process is awe inspiring in our world of cynicism. I’m willing to go through a public humiliation for it.

I don’t believe American journalists will go here. Prove me wrong.

MARCH 12 E-MAIL #1 (Subject Field: Additionally)

Porter Goss and George HW Bush knew Barry Seal very well.

MARCH 12 E-MAIL #2 (Subject Field: Bibb Link to Oswald)

Link from Bibb to Oswald:

In the Warren Commission interviews (Nodule 10 link: http://www.ajweberman.com/nodules2/nodulec10.htm

Under the section “TITO AND CONCHITA HARPER”

————————————————————————————————————————————————————

TITO AND CONCHITA HARPER

During his testimony before the Warren Commission, George DeMohrenschildt told Albert Jenner he had visited Tito and Conchita Harper on their ranch straddling the U.S./Mexican border. On July 3, 1972, The New York Times reported that Federal officials arrested nine men in Texas and Louisiana on charges of conspiring to smuggle munitions to Mexico. Among those arrested were Richmond C. Harper, 48, the brother of Tito Harper, a rancher and Director of the Frontier State Bank of Eagle Pass, Texas, and Marion Hagler, a former Inspector with the Immigration and Naturalization Service. Murray Kessler and Alder B. Seal were also arrested. Kessler, who was a house guest at the Harper ranch last June, had a record of six convictions in Federal and state courts on charges of interstate theft, transporting stolen property, bookmaking and conspiracy to possess heroin. Federal authorities described him as an associate of the Gambino organized-crime family.

———————————————————————————————————————————————————-

Richmond Harper is described as a Director of the Frontier State Bank of Eagle Pass, Texas. This is the bank owned by the Bibbs. Marion Hagler worked for the Bibbs as a Customs Inspector (the Bibbs fall guy above). This Warren Commission interview says it all. George DeMohrenschildt is a mutual friend of Lee Harvey Oswald and Richmond Harper per the Warren Commission. Seal and Kessler are CIA and Mafia respectively. JFK and RFK were assassinated on the birthday’s of Mary Evelyn Bibb’s children (my sister and I). I’ll bet it can be found that the Bibb’s were also friends of DeMohrenschildt. The Bibbs had a larger ranch outside Piedras Negras, Mexico than the Harpers, and still own it.

People are still alive to talk about this.

Seal was a friend of mine. I used to work for Radio KEPS Eagle Pass Texas, I know the Murchinsions. I am from Dallas. Peter Brewton (The Mafia CIA and George Bush; 1992; pgs 91-93-95) interviewed me many times as to some the above information.

I flew C-130's all around Iron Mountain, Eagle Pass, Lajitas MX (referenced and documented; Tri-State Drug Task Force) during the Iran/Contra resupply network. I worked an undercover federal interdiction program. Some of the information above is perhaps correct and some is not correct.

I would be very careful as to background research and where it came from on some of this information. I smell something funny here. Seal was in no way associated with Dallas and the assassination of JFK... I have gone over this years ago and produced documentation to that fact... I was called names because I would not go along with the story. I was in Mexico many times with Seal and have pictures and documentation to support that. I testified in the Seal case and I know some of the players. If you would like to talk about this with me, then Email me privately. If I do not hear from you then I know a con is in the works. Simkin has my email. and I'll be happy to talk with Mr. WorthingtonII and you in reference to this subject matter. However, I am sure some will advise you not to do that. AND that TOO, will tell me something about the credibility of this story.

http://toshplumlee.info/pdf/DEAfiles.pdf

Referenced documentation and file locator numbers:

1-99-J DH 39711 (RUC) 1989

1-99-J R- 39711-7

ITE-0653

1-99-R-DN-39711-3 10-17-89

Report of: Feb. 9, 1990 Classified Secret

SA Wayne Schmidt DEA

SA Hector Berrellez DEA

SA Susan Baldwin DEA

...also reference found as to the investigations of the murder of KiKi Camarena and his pilot Alverz. ...

... References as to Richmont Aviation Mena Ark. reference; C-130 N- 0699 P pilot W. Plumlee; C-123 pilot B Seal fuel forms; Setco aviation Costa Rico. ref; Plumlee aircraft, (Big Toad); B A Seal, aircraft (Fat Lady 1) Operation "Iron Butterfly"

It appears that with Mr. Plumlee the forum may have another Ashton Gray on its hands. We all remember him, don’t we? I have never met or corresponded with Mr. Plumlee. Yet, like Mr. Gray, Mr. Plumlee appears all too willing to engage in character assassination, implying that I am engaged in some sort of con, which is dictionary defined as a “swindle.” I have been an attorney for 38 years and this is the first time that someone, in this case a complete stranger, has used that term in connection with my professional reputation.

I got involved in the forum primarily because John Simkin started a thread on me, which can be found at

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4727

Another reason I got involved in the forum was because Alfred Baldwin was willingly answering members’ questions about Watergate. Then Mr. Gray emerged from nowhere and engaged unceasingly in character assassination against Mr. Baldwin and myself for our roles in the scandal. Mr. Baldwin, apparently taking the understandable attitude of “who needs this crap?”, withdrew from the forum and with him an invaluable source of new information into Watergate dried up, thanks to Mr. Gray.

I decided to stick with the forum and not reply to Mr. Gray’s numerous verbal assaults, expecting that his rude and insulting behavior would expand to include other members and that such activity would eventually lead to his withdrawal from the forum, which indeed is what occurred.

I do not hold myself out as an expert on the assassination of JFK. (For that matter neither does Jack Worthington II.) My strategy has always been as I uncover promising lines for research that these should be posted on the forum in the event that real experts, such as John Simkin, Pat Speer, J. Raymond Carroll and other forum members, might find a clue therein worth further pursuit.

Mr. Worthington’s contention as to his JFK parentage has already produced one great embarrassment for two eminent scholars. Robert Caro and J. Robert Dallek, who are acknowledged as the foremost biographers of LBJ, are quoted in the April 2008 Vanity Fair article, “A Claim to Camelot”, as stating on page 238 that “they’ve never come across a reference to Johnson residing with” Maverick County Judge Robert Bibb.

Yet the Toronto Globe and Mail of February 18, 2008, in its article on the Bibbs’ relationship to Jack Worthington II, reported from Maverick County that “Lyndon Johnson spent the night at our house and my father spent the night in the White House,” said Gravis Bibb, the judge’s son. “My father was a very, very good friend of LBJ. They were buddies going way back.”

So here is a promising line of inquiry into the life and times of LBJ, heretofore not known, that serendipitously has been opened up as a result of the effort by Jack Worthington II to establish his parentage.

Mr. Plumlee appears above to object to the contents of the emails of Jack Worthington II that can be viewed on Vanity Fair’s blog. Vanity Fair saw fit to post these, so it is safe to assume that the magazine believed they are worthy of public attention.

Mr. Plumlee, like Mr. Gray, must learn one of life’s most basic lessons: employing common courtesy and good manners usually cause strangers to respond reciprocally, thus achieving one’s goal, whereas insults and boorishness get one nowhere.

This is really FUNNY. NOONE here would confuse Tosh with Ashton. Tosh, trust me, no matter how nicely you ask you won't get any answers from this man. We all smell a con with the Worthington story. No one accused attorney Caddy of being a con. A bit defensive? You- Tosh- merely invited a dialogue, something this forum is supposed to be. It just devolves more and more each day. Name calling's the norm. Seem's there's way more plants here than people who care about who killed Kennedy. Wothington has ZERO to do with the murder of JFK.

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March 12, 2008

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Jack Worthington II Responds

Canada-based investment banker Jack Worthington II is the subject of a story in the current issue of Vanity Fair, which explores whether or not he is the long-lost son of President John F. Kennedy. Worthington has a MySpace page in which he decries the Vanity Fair piece, offers a rebuttal to his Houston family (who characterized his statements as "unequivocally false"), and calls for a boycott of the magazine and the Waverly Inn restaurant.

In addition, Worthington sent three e-mails to the magazine today and yesterday, which we reprint here.

MARCH 11 E-MAIL (Subject Field: Important Information)

…I risked public humiliation to bring this situation to public attention. You certainly did your part on public humiliation. I was hoping that ABC or Vanity Fair would discover the information below on their own, and bring a bit more light into this dark area of our history. Now, would you please look into the real story, as a matter of public service/duty? That is why I’ve come forward. I’m skeptical of the idea that American media will do anything with these facts, and that it must go international. Prove me wrong.

FACTS:

• The Bibbs were very close, lifelong friends and political allies of LBJ. Proven by letters written to Bob Bibb from LBJ contained in the LBJ library and reported by VF. My mother framed and gave me a note written to her by LBJ stating, "I had a nice talk with your daddy today. Your friend, Lyndon". Also framed LBJ inauguration invitation to my mother’s parents.

• The Bibbs were very close friends with Richmond Harper, a fellow resident, banker, business partner, and rancher of Eagle Pass, Texas (Maverick County). Richmond Harper’s name was frequently discussed in my family when growing up. I remember my family discussing it when he was arrested with Barry Seal. To verify the relationship: I believe they were co-owners of the bank that the Bibb’s owned. Or, ask any Eagle Pass old-timers about their relationship. I cannot remember the name of the bank, but the note LBJ wrote my mother is on a deposit slip. It’s in storage in the US and I can access it if needed. To locate that bank and its history officially: http://www.banking.state.tx.us/corp/bnkhistory.htm . The social network diagram for Richmond Chase Harper on http://www.namebase.org/cgi-bin/nb06?HARPER_RICHMOND_CHASE includes the Gambino family http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambino_crime_family , major Dallas/Ft Worth oilmen Clint Murchison and Sid Richardson amongst others who have been accused of being involved in the JFK assassination, and key leaders of American organized crime. Direct links.

• Richmond Harper was arrested by the FBI with Barry Seal, and Murray Kessler in 1972 for smuggling explosives and weapons to Anti-Castro Cubans in Mexico via the international border crossing at Eagle Pass (Maverick County), which the Bibb’s controlled. Comments on Richmond Harper, Barry Seal, etc… from the FBI agent assigned to investigate Barry Seal http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a395415382bea.htm

• The Bibb’s controlled the Federal international border crossing at Eagle Pass via Customs, Naturalization and Immigration, and Maverick County politically for over 30 years. Vanity Fair and the Globe and Mail have research on the Bibbs. The Bibb’s relationship dynamic with LBJ is best understood via Barr McClellan’s book.

• Barry Seal and the following people are best understood via Jim Garrison’s work (Oliver Stone movie), and subsequently Wim Dankbaar. Seal trained under David Ferrie in the Civilian Air Patrol, where he also met Lee Harvey Oswald. Seal’s New Orleans office was operated or owned by Clay Shaw. Seal’s wife has said he was involved in the assassination. Barry Seal was closely associated with the prime suspects in the JFK assassination conspiracy theory proposed by Jim Garrison (Oliver Stone). More on Barry Seal: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKseal.htm . http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CIAseal.htm Illumination on Barry Seal’s life: http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.p...d=208&aid=3 <http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.php?bid=208&aid=3> . http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6930 .

• Richmond Harper was a close friend and business partner of Murray Kessler, who was also arrested along with Seal and Harper in 1972. Murray Kessler was a nephew of mob boss Carlo Gambino.

• Douglas Valentine might be a good investigator to help out with this. http://www.douglasvalentine.com/ . Interview of Doug Valentine: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0708/S00242.htm .

• My grandfather slept with a loaded pistol under his mattress. Well-known fact by all in my family. I slept in the same room with him when visiting.

• My mother inherited an important sum of money from the Bibbs. I don’t know the amount.

• My birthdate is 2 years prior to JFK’s assassination. My sister’s birthdate is 3 years prior to RFK’s assassination (the day he was shot – around midnight 4 June).

Douglas Valentine would be a good investigator to help out with this.

http://www.douglasvalentine.com/ . Interview of Doug Valentine: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0708/S00242.htm .

It should be clear why the "Family" issued a statement disputing me. It should be clear why I’m coming forward with these facts. This is not about me. In my view, airing our dirty laundry is vitally important to the credibility of our claim to be a truly free and open society dedicated to the betterment of the human condition. In fact, I believe this purging process is awe inspiring in our world of cynicism. I’m willing to go through a public humiliation for it.

I don’t believe American journalists will go here. Prove me wrong.

MARCH 12 E-MAIL #1 (Subject Field: Additionally)

Porter Goss and George HW Bush knew Barry Seal very well.

MARCH 12 E-MAIL #2 (Subject Field: Bibb Link to Oswald)

Link from Bibb to Oswald:

In the Warren Commission interviews (Nodule 10 link: http://www.ajweberman.com/nodules2/nodulec10.htm

Under the section “TITO AND CONCHITA HARPER”

————————————————————————————————————————————————————

TITO AND CONCHITA HARPER

During his testimony before the Warren Commission, George DeMohrenschildt told Albert Jenner he had visited Tito and Conchita Harper on their ranch straddling the U.S./Mexican border. On July 3, 1972, The New York Times reported that Federal officials arrested nine men in Texas and Louisiana on charges of conspiring to smuggle munitions to Mexico. Among those arrested were Richmond C. Harper, 48, the brother of Tito Harper, a rancher and Director of the Frontier State Bank of Eagle Pass, Texas, and Marion Hagler, a former Inspector with the Immigration and Naturalization Service. Murray Kessler and Alder B. Seal were also arrested. Kessler, who was a house guest at the Harper ranch last June, had a record of six convictions in Federal and state courts on charges of interstate theft, transporting stolen property, bookmaking and conspiracy to possess heroin. Federal authorities described him as an associate of the Gambino organized-crime family.

———————————————————————————————————————————————————-

Richmond Harper is described as a Director of the Frontier State Bank of Eagle Pass, Texas. This is the bank owned by the Bibbs. Marion Hagler worked for the Bibbs as a Customs Inspector (the Bibbs fall guy above). This Warren Commission interview says it all. George DeMohrenschildt is a mutual friend of Lee Harvey Oswald and Richmond Harper per the Warren Commission. Seal and Kessler are CIA and Mafia respectively. JFK and RFK were assassinated on the birthday’s of Mary Evelyn Bibb’s children (my sister and I). I’ll bet it can be found that the Bibb’s were also friends of DeMohrenschildt. The Bibbs had a larger ranch outside Piedras Negras, Mexico than the Harpers, and still own it.

People are still alive to talk about this.

Seal was a friend of mine. I used to work for Radio KEPS Eagle Pass Texas, I know the Murchinsions. I am from Dallas. Peter Brewton (The Mafia CIA and George Bush; 1992; pgs 91-93-95) interviewed me many times as to some the above information.

I flew C-130's all around Iron Mountain, Eagle Pass, Lajitas MX (referenced and documented; Tri-State Drug Task Force) during the Iran/Contra resupply network. I worked an undercover federal interdiction program. Some of the information above is perhaps correct and some is not correct.

I would be very careful as to background research and where it came from on some of this information. I smell something funny here. Seal was in no way associated with Dallas and the assassination of JFK... I have gone over this years ago and produced documentation to that fact... I was called names because I would not go along with the story. I was in Mexico many times with Seal and have pictures and documentation to support that. I testified in the Seal case and I know some of the players. If you would like to talk about this with me, then Email me privately. If I do not hear from you then I know a con is in the works. Simkin has my email. and I'll be happy to talk with Mr. WorthingtonII and you in reference to this subject matter. However, I am sure some will advise you not to do that. AND that TOO, will tell me something about the credibility of this story.

http://toshplumlee.info/pdf/DEAfiles.pdf

Referenced documentation and file locator numbers:

1-99-J DH 39711 (RUC) 1989

1-99-J R- 39711-7

ITE-0653

1-99-R-DN-39711-3 10-17-89

Report of: Feb. 9, 1990 Classified Secret

SA Wayne Schmidt DEA

SA Hector Berrellez DEA

SA Susan Baldwin DEA

...also reference found as to the investigations of the murder of KiKi Camarena and his pilot Alverz. ...

... References as to Richmont Aviation Mena Ark. reference; C-130 N- 0699 P pilot W. Plumlee; C-123 pilot B Seal fuel forms; Setco aviation Costa Rico. ref; Plumlee aircraft, (Big Toad); B A Seal, aircraft (Fat Lady 1) Operation "Iron Butterfly"

It appears that with Mr. Plumlee the forum may have another Ashton Gray on its hands. We all remember him, don’t we? I have never met or corresponded with Mr. Plumlee. Yet, like Mr. Gray, Mr. Plumlee appears all too willing to engage in character assassination, implying that I am engaged in some sort of con, which is dictionary defined as a “swindle.” I have been an attorney for 38 years and this is the first time that someone, in this case a complete stranger, has used that term in connection with my professional reputation.

I got involved in the forum primarily because John Simkin started a thread on me, which can be found at

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4727

Another reason I got involved in the forum was because Alfred Baldwin was willingly answering members’ questions about Watergate. Then Mr. Gray emerged from nowhere and engaged unceasingly in character assassination against Mr. Baldwin and myself for our roles in the scandal. Mr. Baldwin, apparently taking the understandable attitude of “who needs this crap?”, withdrew from the forum and with him an invaluable source of new information into Watergate dried up, thanks to Mr. Gray.

I decided to stick with the forum and not reply to Mr. Gray’s numerous verbal assaults, expecting that his rude and insulting behavior would expand to include other members and that such activity would eventually lead to his withdrawal from the forum, which indeed is what occurred.

I do not hold myself out as an expert on the assassination of JFK. (For that matter neither does Jack Worthington II.) My strategy has always been as I uncover promising lines for research that these should be posted on the forum in the event that real experts, such as John Simkin, Pat Speer, J. Raymond Carroll and other forum members, might find a clue therein worth further pursuit.

Mr. Worthington’s contention as to his JFK parentage has already produced one great embarrassment for two eminent scholars. Robert Caro and J. Robert Dallek, who are acknowledged as the foremost biographers of LBJ, are quoted in the April 2008 Vanity Fair article, “A Claim to Camelot”, as stating on page 238 that “they’ve never come across a reference to Johnson residing with” Maverick County Judge Robert Bibb.

Yet the Toronto Globe and Mail of February 18, 2008, in its article on the Bibbs’ relationship to Jack Worthington II, reported from Maverick County that “Lyndon Johnson spent the night at our house and my father spent the night in the White House,” said Gravis Bibb, the judge’s son. “My father was a very, very good friend of LBJ. They were buddies going way back.”

So here is a promising line of inquiry into the life and times of LBJ, heretofore not known, that serendipitously has been opened up as a result of the effort by Jack Worthington II to establish his parentage.

Mr. Plumlee appears above to object to the contents of the emails of Jack Worthington II that can be viewed on Vanity Fair’s blog. Vanity Fair saw fit to post these, so it is safe to assume that the magazine believed they are worthy of public attention.

Mr. Plumlee, like Mr. Gray, must learn one of life’s most basic lessons: employing common courtesy and good manners usually cause strangers to respond reciprocally, thus achieving one’s goal, whereas insults and boorishness get one nowhere.

So, Tosh asks a couple of questions, tries to set some records straight and gets called Ashton Gray.

In Mr Caddy's opinion the only "true experts" on the jfk murder here on this forum are John Simkin, Pat Ppeer and Ray Carroll. Hmmm...I concur that these folks are experts but Attorney Carroll has also posted on this very subject on the original thread. See below.

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March 12, 2008

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Jack Worthington II Responds

Canada-based investment banker Jack Worthington II is the subject of a story in the current issue of Vanity Fair, which explores whether or not he is the long-lost son of President John F. Kennedy. Worthington has a MySpace page in which he decries the Vanity Fair piece, offers a rebuttal to his Houston family (who characterized his statements as "unequivocally false"), and calls for a boycott of the magazine and the Waverly Inn restaurant.

In addition, Worthington sent three e-mails to the magazine today and yesterday, which we reprint here.

MARCH 11 E-MAIL (Subject Field: Important Information)

…I risked public humiliation to bring this situation to public attention. You certainly did your part on public humiliation. I was hoping that ABC or Vanity Fair would discover the information below on their own, and bring a bit more light into this dark area of our history. Now, would you please look into the real story, as a matter of public service/duty? That is why I’ve come forward. I’m skeptical of the idea that American media will do anything with these facts, and that it must go international. Prove me wrong.

FACTS:

• The Bibbs were very close, lifelong friends and political allies of LBJ. Proven by letters written to Bob Bibb from LBJ contained in the LBJ library and reported by VF. My mother framed and gave me a note written to her by LBJ stating, "I had a nice talk with your daddy today. Your friend, Lyndon". Also framed LBJ inauguration invitation to my mother’s parents.

• The Bibbs were very close friends with Richmond Harper, a fellow resident, banker, business partner, and rancher of Eagle Pass, Texas (Maverick County). Richmond Harper’s name was frequently discussed in my family when growing up. I remember my family discussing it when he was arrested with Barry Seal. To verify the relationship: I believe they were co-owners of the bank that the Bibb’s owned. Or, ask any Eagle Pass old-timers about their relationship. I cannot remember the name of the bank, but the note LBJ wrote my mother is on a deposit slip. It’s in storage in the US and I can access it if needed. To locate that bank and its history officially: http://www.banking.state.tx.us/corp/bnkhistory.htm . The social network diagram for Richmond Chase Harper on http://www.namebase.org/cgi-bin/nb06?HARPER_RICHMOND_CHASE includes the Gambino family http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambino_crime_family , major Dallas/Ft Worth oilmen Clint Murchison and Sid Richardson amongst others who have been accused of being involved in the JFK assassination, and key leaders of American organized crime. Direct links.

• Richmond Harper was arrested by the FBI with Barry Seal, and Murray Kessler in 1972 for smuggling explosives and weapons to Anti-Castro Cubans in Mexico via the international border crossing at Eagle Pass (Maverick County), which the Bibb’s controlled. Comments on Richmond Harper, Barry Seal, etc… from the FBI agent assigned to investigate Barry Seal http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a395415382bea.htm

• The Bibb’s controlled the Federal international border crossing at Eagle Pass via Customs, Naturalization and Immigration, and Maverick County politically for over 30 years. Vanity Fair and the Globe and Mail have research on the Bibbs. The Bibb’s relationship dynamic with LBJ is best understood via Barr McClellan’s book.

• Barry Seal and the following people are best understood via Jim Garrison’s work (Oliver Stone movie), and subsequently Wim Dankbaar. Seal trained under David Ferrie in the Civilian Air Patrol, where he also met Lee Harvey Oswald. Seal’s New Orleans office was operated or owned by Clay Shaw. Seal’s wife has said he was involved in the assassination. Barry Seal was closely associated with the prime suspects in the JFK assassination conspiracy theory proposed by Jim Garrison (Oliver Stone). More on Barry Seal: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKseal.htm . http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/CIAseal.htm Illumination on Barry Seal’s life: http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.p...d=208&aid=3 <http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.php?bid=208&aid=3> . http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6930 .

• Richmond Harper was a close friend and business partner of Murray Kessler, who was also arrested along with Seal and Harper in 1972. Murray Kessler was a nephew of mob boss Carlo Gambino.

• Douglas Valentine might be a good investigator to help out with this. http://www.douglasvalentine.com/ . Interview of Doug Valentine: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0708/S00242.htm .

• My grandfather slept with a loaded pistol under his mattress. Well-known fact by all in my family. I slept in the same room with him when visiting.

• My mother inherited an important sum of money from the Bibbs. I don’t know the amount.

• My birthdate is 2 years prior to JFK’s assassination. My sister’s birthdate is 3 years prior to RFK’s assassination (the day he was shot – around midnight 4 June).

Douglas Valentine would be a good investigator to help out with this.

http://www.douglasvalentine.com/ . Interview of Doug Valentine: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0708/S00242.htm .

It should be clear why the "Family" issued a statement disputing me. It should be clear why I’m coming forward with these facts. This is not about me. In my view, airing our dirty laundry is vitally important to the credibility of our claim to be a truly free and open society dedicated to the betterment of the human condition. In fact, I believe this purging process is awe inspiring in our world of cynicism. I’m willing to go through a public humiliation for it.

I don’t believe American journalists will go here. Prove me wrong.

MARCH 12 E-MAIL #1 (Subject Field: Additionally)

Porter Goss and George HW Bush knew Barry Seal very well.

MARCH 12 E-MAIL #2 (Subject Field: Bibb Link to Oswald)

Link from Bibb to Oswald:

In the Warren Commission interviews (Nodule 10 link: http://www.ajweberman.com/nodules2/nodulec10.htm

Under the section “TITO AND CONCHITA HARPER”

————————————————————————————————————————————————————

TITO AND CONCHITA HARPER

During his testimony before the Warren Commission, George DeMohrenschildt told Albert Jenner he had visited Tito and Conchita Harper on their ranch straddling the U.S./Mexican border. On July 3, 1972, The New York Times reported that Federal officials arrested nine men in Texas and Louisiana on charges of conspiring to smuggle munitions to Mexico. Among those arrested were Richmond C. Harper, 48, the brother of Tito Harper, a rancher and Director of the Frontier State Bank of Eagle Pass, Texas, and Marion Hagler, a former Inspector with the Immigration and Naturalization Service. Murray Kessler and Alder B. Seal were also arrested. Kessler, who was a house guest at the Harper ranch last June, had a record of six convictions in Federal and state courts on charges of interstate theft, transporting stolen property, bookmaking and conspiracy to possess heroin. Federal authorities described him as an associate of the Gambino organized-crime family.

———————————————————————————————————————————————————-

Richmond Harper is described as a Director of the Frontier State Bank of Eagle Pass, Texas. This is the bank owned by the Bibbs. Marion Hagler worked for the Bibbs as a Customs Inspector (the Bibbs fall guy above). This Warren Commission interview says it all. George DeMohrenschildt is a mutual friend of Lee Harvey Oswald and Richmond Harper per the Warren Commission. Seal and Kessler are CIA and Mafia respectively. JFK and RFK were assassinated on the birthday’s of Mary Evelyn Bibb’s children (my sister and I). I’ll bet it can be found that the Bibb’s were also friends of DeMohrenschildt. The Bibbs had a larger ranch outside Piedras Negras, Mexico than the Harpers, and still own it.

People are still alive to talk about this.

Seal was a friend of mine. I used to work for Radio KEPS Eagle Pass Texas, I know the Murchinsions. I am from Dallas. Peter Brewton (The Mafia CIA and George Bush; 1992; pgs 91-93-95) interviewed me many times as to some the above information.

I flew C-130's all around Iron Mountain, Eagle Pass, Lajitas MX (referenced and documented; Tri-State Drug Task Force) during the Iran/Contra resupply network. I worked an undercover federal interdiction program. Some of the information above is perhaps correct and some is not correct.

I would be very careful as to background research and where it came from on some of this information. I smell something funny here. Seal was in no way associated with Dallas and the assassination of JFK... I have gone over this years ago and produced documentation to that fact... I was called names because I would not go along with the story. I was in Mexico many times with Seal and have pictures and documentation to support that. I testified in the Seal case and I know some of the players. If you would like to talk about this with me, then Email me privately. If I do not hear from you then I know a con is in the works. Simkin has my email. and I'll be happy to talk with Mr. WorthingtonII and you in reference to this subject matter. However, I am sure some will advise you not to do that. AND that TOO, will tell me something about the credibility of this story.

http://toshplumlee.info/pdf/DEAfiles.pdf

Referenced documentation and file locator numbers:

1-99-J DH 39711 (RUC) 1989

1-99-J R- 39711-7

ITE-0653

1-99-R-DN-39711-3 10-17-89

Report of: Feb. 9, 1990 Classified Secret

SA Wayne Schmidt DEA

SA Hector Berrellez DEA

SA Susan Baldwin DEA

...also reference found as to the investigations of the murder of KiKi Camarena and his pilot Alverz. ...

... References as to Richmont Aviation Mena Ark. reference; C-130 N- 0699 P pilot W. Plumlee; C-123 pilot B Seal fuel forms; Setco aviation Costa Rico. ref; Plumlee aircraft, (Big Toad); B A Seal, aircraft (Fat Lady 1) Operation "Iron Butterfly"

It appears that with Mr. Plumlee the forum may have another Ashton Gray on its hands. We all remember him, don’t we? I have never met or corresponded with Mr. Plumlee. Yet, like Mr. Gray, Mr. Plumlee appears all too willing to engage in character assassination, implying that I am engaged in some sort of con, which is dictionary defined as a “swindle.” I have been an attorney for 38 years and this is the first time that someone, in this case a complete stranger, has used that term in connection with my professional reputation.

I got involved in the forum primarily because John Simkin started a thread on me, which can be found at

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4727

Another reason I got involved in the forum was because Alfred Baldwin was willingly answering members’ questions about Watergate. Then Mr. Gray emerged from nowhere and engaged unceasingly in character assassination against Mr. Baldwin and myself for our roles in the scandal. Mr. Baldwin, apparently taking the understandable attitude of “who needs this crap?”, withdrew from the forum and with him an invaluable source of new information into Watergate dried up, thanks to Mr. Gray.

I decided to stick with the forum and not reply to Mr. Gray’s numerous verbal assaults, expecting that his rude and insulting behavior would expand to include other members and that such activity would eventually lead to his withdrawal from the forum, which indeed is what occurred.

I do not hold myself out as an expert on the assassination of JFK. (For that matter neither does Jack Worthington II.) My strategy has always been as I uncover promising lines for research that these should be posted on the forum in the event that real experts, such as John Simkin, Pat Speer, J. Raymond Carroll and other forum members, might find a clue therein worth further pursuit.

Mr. Worthington’s contention as to his JFK parentage has already produced one great embarrassment for two eminent scholars. Robert Caro and J. Robert Dallek, who are acknowledged as the foremost biographers of LBJ, are quoted in the April 2008 Vanity Fair article, “A Claim to Camelot”, as stating on page 238 that “they’ve never come across a reference to Johnson residing with” Maverick County Judge Robert Bibb.

Yet the Toronto Globe and Mail of February 18, 2008, in its article on the Bibbs’ relationship to Jack Worthington II, reported from Maverick County that “Lyndon Johnson spent the night at our house and my father spent the night in the White House,” said Gravis Bibb, the judge’s son. “My father was a very, very good friend of LBJ. They were buddies going way back.”

So here is a promising line of inquiry into the life and times of LBJ, heretofore not known, that serendipitously has been opened up as a result of the effort by Jack Worthington II to establish his parentage.

Mr. Plumlee appears above to object to the contents of the emails of Jack Worthington II that can be viewed on Vanity Fair’s blog. Vanity Fair saw fit to post these, so it is safe to assume that the magazine believed they are worthy of public attention.

Mr. Plumlee, like Mr. Gray, must learn one of life’s most basic lessons: employing common courtesy and good manners usually cause strangers to respond reciprocally, thus achieving one’s goal, whereas insults and boorishness get one nowhere.

So, Tosh asks a couple of questions, tries to set some records straight and gets called Ashton Gray.

In Mr Caddy's opinion the only "true experts" on the jfk murder here on this forum are John Simkin, Pat Ppeer and Ray Carroll. Hmmm...I concur that these folks are experts but Attorney Carroll has also posted on this very subject on the original thread. See below.

Dawn

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Jack, in Caddy’s view, was the real deal. When Simoneaux and Caddy met him, the attorney said, “it was almost electricity as he strode toward us. He has that charisma. And he looks like … like his father.”

Doug: It seems you were right after all. This man really DOES look like his father:

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Then yearbook photos of Jack senior emerged from a library in Texas. Jack II bore an uncanny resemblance to the man in the basketball uniform and in a college-yearbook headshot from 1960—the student named Jack Worthington. Both father and son had similar jaws, noses, eyes. Both had receding hairlines. Both were awash in freckles.

This post has been edited by J. Raymond Carroll: Mar 1 2008

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QUOTE(Wim Dankbaar @ Mar 2 2008, 11:19 AM)

He could be exposed as a con, if he's a fraud.

If you read the Vanity Fair Article, you will see that he HAS been exposed as a con, by no less an authority than his own mother. (Ray Carroll's post)

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Without DNA from Worthington’s parents, however, and without a reconciliation between mother and son, all Jack II’s tale amounted to, really, was one man’s cold call to a magazine.

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QUOTE(Wim Dankbaar @ Mar 2 2008, 11:19 AM)

He could be exposed as a con, if he's a fraud.

If you read the Vanity Fair Article, you will see that he HAS been exposed as a con, by no less an authority than his own mother.

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Without DNA from Worthington’s parents, however, and without a reconciliation between mother and son, all Jack II’s tale amounted to, really, was one man’s cold call to a magazine.

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QUOTE(Douglas Caddy @ Mar 1 2008, 07:22 AM)

“Doug Caddy was not my lawyer,” Mr. Worthington said yesterday. ...

Doug: Is this man telling lies about you?

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QUOTE(Douglas Caddy @ Mar 2 2008, 08:53 PM)

Jack Worthington is scheduled to be interviewed on ABC's 20/20 on Friday night, March 7.

ABC is calling the show:

THE MAN WHO WOULD SELL HIS OWN MOTHER

AND DISOWN HIS OWN FATHER

(to guarantee his 15 minutes of fame)

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QUOTE(Douglas Caddy @ Mar 7 2008, 08:24 PM)

'JFK Love Child': Now I Don't Want To Know

ABC NEWS

But Worthington's own response is that he is telling the truth and that he will "proceed with criminal charges against her [HIS OWN MOTHER] for willfully and maliciously misleading me regarding my paternity."

Doug, since you are Worthington's lawyer, will you be assisting him in the "criminal charges" he is threatening against his elderly mother?

Will Mrs. Worthington's trial on the charge of "misleading her son" be televised live around the world on CNN?

What is the maximum sentance a court can award for the crime of "Misleading Jack Worthington" ?

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So I take it Attorney Caddy approves of Attorney Carroll's expertise in this matter, but not Tosh's. Please excuse my confusion.

Dawn

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