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In the Stone Film JFK, 2h33min44sec.(of my DVD) appears a piece of

Zapruder - Film, where you can see four woman and a running man with a hat, dressed

in black with arms open wide among them---just across the street

opposite the umbrella man, on the south side of elm street. These five people are not visible on all the

other versions of the Zapruder Film I have ever seen...this small piece of film

was not shot or made by Stone...

Nobody has seen the original film yet...not in the full

length not in full screen, and not with all the persons on it, and the persons on the right place...

A year ago, I posted the frames in question, for the first time, in the nuthouse (ng. jfk. conspiracy), and despite the fact everybody screamed: this frames are not from Zapruders camera, nobody was able to identify this frames.

So let me ask again : are these full- screen Z- Frames, used by Stone in his movie by accident? ? If not, who shot it? And when?

Thanks.

http://httpjfkmurderblogspotcom.blogspot.c...-rennender.html

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In the Stone Film JFK, 2h33min44sec.(of my DVD) appears a piece of

Zapruder - Film, where you can see four woman and a running man with a hat, dressed

in black with arms open wide among them---just across the street

opposite the umbrella man, on the south side of elm street. These five people are not visible on all the

other versions of the Zapruder Film I have ever seen...this small piece of film

was not shot or made by Stone...

Nobody has seen the original film yet...not in the full

length not in full screen, and not with all the persons on it, and the persons on the right place...

A year ago, I posted the frames in question, for the first time, in the nuthouse (ng. jfk. conspiracy), and despite the fact everybody screamed: this frames are not from Zapruders camera, nobody was able to identify this frames.

So let me ask again : are these full- screen Z- Frames, used by Stone in his movie by accident? ? If not, who shot it? And when?

Thanks.

http://httpjfkmurderblogspotcom.blogspot.c...-rennender.html

Karl...Stone recreated the motorcade with cars and actors and a cameraman on the

pedestal for three days. This is one of those versions, likely an outtake not used.

He had a setup which filmed and videotaped simultaneously, and sat in a little tent

watching the take on a screen till he got what he wanted. It was quite monotonous.

He did several dozen takes probably. I do not know how this got on a DVD, because

I do not think it was in the released version. Maybe there was a section of outtakes.

Jack

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In the Stone Film JFK, 2h33min44sec.(of my DVD) appears a piece of

Zapruder - Film, where you can see four woman and a running man with a hat, dressed

in black with arms open wide among them---just across the street

opposite the umbrella man, on the south side of elm street. These five people are not visible on all the

other versions of the Zapruder Film I have ever seen...this small piece of film

was not shot or made by Stone...

Nobody has seen the original film yet...not in the full

length not in full screen, and not with all the persons on it, and the persons on the right place...

A year ago, I posted the frames in question, for the first time, in the nuthouse (ng. jfk. conspiracy), and despite the fact everybody screamed: this frames are not from Zapruders camera, nobody was able to identify this frames.

So let me ask again : are these full- screen Z- Frames, used by Stone in his movie by accident? ? If not, who shot it? And when?

Thanks.

http://httpjfkmurderblogspotcom.blogspot.c...-rennender.html

Karl...Stone recreated the motorcade with cars and actors and a cameraman on the

pedestal for three days. This is one of those versions, likely an outtake not used.

He had a setup which filmed and videotaped simultaneously, and sat in a little tent

watching the take on a screen till he got what he wanted. It was quite monotonous.

He did several dozen takes probably. I do not know how this got on a DVD, because

I do not think it was in the released version. Maybe there was a section of outtakes.

Jack

@ Jack Withe:

I do know, that Stone recreated the motorcade...but I ask myself, if the shown frames are "Stone- made", for what reason he would put in 5 Individuals, just across the umbrella man, which nobody has ever seen before on (any of the)the Z-film(s)?

I cant believe, that Stone, who was accurate in his recreations of that day, would make such a faux pass.

KK

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In the Stone Film JFK, 2h33min44sec.(of my DVD) appears a piece of

Zapruder - Film, where you can see four woman and a running man with a hat, dressed

in black with arms open wide among them---just across the street

opposite the umbrella man, on the south side of elm street. These five people are not visible on all the

other versions of the Zapruder Film I have ever seen...this small piece of film

was not shot or made by Stone...

Nobody has seen the original film yet...not in the full

length not in full screen, and not with all the persons on it, and the persons on the right place...

A year ago, I posted the frames in question, for the first time, in the nuthouse (ng. jfk. conspiracy), and despite the fact everybody screamed: this frames are not from Zapruders camera, nobody was able to identify this frames.

So let me ask again : are these full- screen Z- Frames, used by Stone in his movie by accident? ? If not, who shot it? And when?

Thanks.

http://httpjfkmurderblogspotcom.blogspot.c...-rennender.html

Karl...Stone recreated the motorcade with cars and actors and a cameraman on the

pedestal for three days. This is one of those versions, likely an outtake not used.

He had a setup which filmed and videotaped simultaneously, and sat in a little tent

watching the take on a screen till he got what he wanted. It was quite monotonous.

He did several dozen takes probably. I do not know how this got on a DVD, because

I do not think it was in the released version. Maybe there was a section of outtakes.

Jack

@ Jack Withe:

I do know, that Stone recreated the motorcade...but I ask myself, if the shown frames are "Stone- made", for what reason he would put in 5 Individuals, just across the umbrella man, which nobody has ever seen before on (any of the)the Z-film(s)?

I cant believe, that Stone, who was accurate in his recreations of that day, would make such a faux pass.

KK

You are right. It makes no sense. Robert Groden was there to make sure

that all witnesses were stationed properly. Artistic license I guess.

Jack

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