Maggie Hansen Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I just heard on TV Sur (Venezuelan) that the US military have once again invaded the Venezuelan territory. This time they flew right over a military installation. This has been happening quite often lately. Probably not broadcast on CBS though. Obviously, the US need to ground their planes and retrain their pilots and teach them how to stay on course. Flying 101 I would have thought. They are not just a bit off course but miles. Complaints have been lodged by the Venezuelan government with the US and the UN about this provocative behaviour. Chavez is saying that if it happens again the plane will be shot down. In the mean time there is talk about the Russians resuming their base in Cuba but no confirmation at this stage. This in in response to the encirclement of Russia by US bases and the proxy war (but getting hotter) in Georgia and Sth Ossetia which is getting next to no coverage in the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I just heard on TV Sur (Venezuelan) that the US military have once again invaded the Venezuelan territory. This time they flew right over a military installation. This has been happening quite often lately. Probably not broadcast on CBS though. Obviously, the US need to ground their planes and retrain their pilots and teach them how to stay on course. Flying 101 I would have thought. They are not just a bit off course but miles. Complaints have been lodged by the Venezuelan government with the US and the UN about this provocative behaviour. Chavez is saying that if it happens again the plane will be shot down.In the mean time there is talk about the Russians resuming their base in Cuba but no confirmation at this stage. This in in response to the encirclement of Russia by US bases and the proxy war (but getting hotter) in Georgia and Sth Ossetia which is getting next to no coverage in the west. Don't panic yet. What's to cover? I can assure you Maggie, if the USA military had invaded Venezuela, you wouldn't be hearing from Mr. Chavez, except from Cuba. I'll tell you when to panic. BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hogan Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I just heard on TV Sur (Venezuelan) that the US military have once again invaded the Venezuelan territory. This time they flew right over a military installation. This has been happening quite often lately. Probably not broadcast on CBS though. Obviously, the US need to ground their planes and retrain their pilots and teach them how to stay on course. Flying 101 I would have thought. They are not just a bit off course but miles. Complaints have been lodged by the Venezuelan government with the US and the UN about this provocative behaviour. Chavez is saying that if it happens again the plane will be shot down. Chavez warns U.S. after getting Russian warplanes MOSCOW, August 4 (RIA Novosti) - President Hugo Chavez said Venezuela had taken delivery of 24 Russian Sukhoi fighter jets, and warned the U.S. Fourth Fleet that his country is ready to defend itself. "We've received the 24 Sukhoi aircraft," he said Sunday. "They're for defensive purposes; we're not going to attack anybody." The deal included training for pilots and crews, as well as missiles for the fighters. Chavez said the Sukhoi missiles have far greater range than those of the U.S. F-16 fighter jet, and warned the U.S. Fourth Fleet to keep out of Venezuelan waters. "Any gringo ship that sails into brown waters [river waters] will itself turn brown and go to the bottom, because they'll not get through," he said. The jets are part of a recent $4 billion deal with Moscow, including tanks, transport planes, air-defense systems and AK assault rifles. In 2005-2006, Venezuela signed a deal to buy more than 50 combat helicopters, 24 Su-30MK2 fighters, 12 Tor-M1 air defense missile systems and 100,000 AK-103 rifles from Russia. Chavez, an outspoken critic of Washington since coming to power nine years ago, has focused his foreign policy on bolstering ties with countries outside the U.S. sphere of influence. http://en.rian.ru/world/20080804/115619889.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie Hansen Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 I just heard on TV Sur (Venezuelan) that the US military have once again invaded the Venezuelan territory. This time they flew right over a military installation. This has been happening quite often lately. Probably not broadcast on CBS though. Obviously, the US need to ground their planes and retrain their pilots and teach them how to stay on course. Flying 101 I would have thought. They are not just a bit off course but miles. Complaints have been lodged by the Venezuelan government with the US and the UN about this provocative behaviour. Chavez is saying that if it happens again the plane will be shot down.In the mean time there is talk about the Russians resuming their base in Cuba but no confirmation at this stage. This in in response to the encirclement of Russia by US bases and the proxy war (but getting hotter) in Georgia and Sth Ossetia which is getting next to no coverage in the west. Don't panic yet. What's to cover? I can assure you Maggie, if the USA military had invaded Venezuela, you wouldn't be hearing from Mr. Chavez, except from Cuba. I'll tell you when to panic. BK Ha! I dare say you are right there Bill Makes me laugh watching Bush Co. just chafing at the bit for any pretext to have a go at Chavez. And then with out a hint of irony they say that Russia cannot refuel its military craft in Cuba while they are building base after base around Russia. http://uk.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis...346531520080724 Reuters July 23, 2008 Cuba silent on Russian bomber report: Fidel Castro HAVANA - Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro on Wednesday said Cuba does not have to explain or "ask forgiveness" about a report out of Russia this week that Russia might use its Cold War ally Cuba as a refueling base for nuclear-capable bombers. He did not address whether the report was true or false, and Cuban officials have made no comment. "Raul did very well keeping a dignified silence," Castro wrote, referring to his brother, President Raul Castro, in a column published online at www.cubadebate.cu. "One doesn't have to give explanations nor ask excuses or forgiveness," the ailing 81-year-old said in one of his increasingly frequent opinion pieces. Russia's Izvestia newspaper this week quoted a "highly placed source" as saying Russia could land Tu-160 supersonic bombers nicknamed "White Swans" in Cuba in response to a planned U.S. missile defense shield in Europe that Moscow opposes. On Tuesday, U.S. Air Force Gen. Norton Schwartz told the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee that if the Russians did refuel the bombers in Cuba "we should stand strong and indicate that that is something that crosses a threshold, crosses a red line for the United States of America." Russian officials have denied the Izvestia report, but the dust-up has stirred memories of the 1962 Cuban missile crisis when the United States and Russia faced each other down after the discovery of Soviet missiles on the island 90 miles (144 km) south of Florida. The two-week crisis brought the Cold War foes close to a full-blown war until the Soviets agreed to take down the missile sites in exchange for a U.S. pledge not to invade Cuba and to remove U.S. missiles from Turkey. Castro said the comments by Schwartz, who has been nominated to become the Air Force's top military officer, were an example of the "Machiavellian strategy that the empire (U.S.) applies to Cuba." "If you say yes, I kill you. If you say no, it's the same, I'll kill you anyway," he wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Joe Kennedy & Chavez http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2007/02/16/kennedy_oil_program_blasted_as_propaganda_ for_chavez/://http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...da_ for_chavez/://http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...da_ for_chavez/ http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/fe...ml?id=110009310 How many of these Kennedy's are still around? Kennedy Clan Profiting from Hugo Chavez's Oil?- 4:38am Joseph P. Kennedy II. Oh, for cripes sakes. How many of these damn Kennedy's are still around? If Chavez wants to give away oil, fine. ... www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1527165/posts - 35k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this vvvv http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachus...nda_for_chavez/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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