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Mike,

Please do NOT use that term; I realise it may not necessarily be considered offensive in your country, but it is in many nations. Thank you.

First and only warning regarding use of language.

Paul,

That term may be a colloquialism in the UK (I note the British origin) but it is not in common use in my military, nor would it seem in Mike's. At least 3 people thought it referred to something else - a word that I would imagine a person in the UK would easily recognise, and recognise as a swear word. Please avoid any confusion in future.

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In the military its a matter of respect the rank, not the person. Something similar could be said here.

It would only be fair, then, to characterise you as a complete and committed ranker?

I am shocked and appalled to have received a complaint from a Mod about the above posting.

I have implied no more than that which I post below: A Mod has inferred, well, I dread to think, and he has yet to specify.

For the record, then, what is a "ranker"?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ranker

rank·er (rngkr)

n. Chiefly British

1. An enlisted soldier.

2. A commissioned officer who has been promoted from enlisted status.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

To characterise Mikey as "a complete and committed ranker" is thus absolutely accurate, given his self-confessed militaristic view of human affairs.

Ignorance of the English language, not to mention a vague beastly-mindedness, is no defence.

I rest my case, probably in lost property.

EP Rigby

Oh where to begin?

If your inference was to enlisted rank, then yep, I was enlisted and reached the top of that chain. However, I doubt you know enough about me to state my views as militaristic.

Was it militaristic to state that one should debate the issues rather than discredit the poster? Hardly.

Of course I would not expect Mr. Rigby to understand such distinctions.

Where in your definition Paul does it add beastly minded? Where does it add militaristic? Are those just little add ins that you try to associate to the base definition of an enlisted man?

Of course what is apparent is that you were unhappy with just the base definition of an enlisted man, so you try to add something to that in an attempt to slide in an insult.

Nice try.

However this does show that you have contemptible views towards the military. That is of course your right. But it also makes you by definition XXXXXX.

A contemptuous person.

So I will with pride be called a ranker, and given your contempt for the military you should be proudly called a xxxxxxx.

Mike

You've lost it, Mikey, good style.

PS I thought it was only the Taiwanese military that got up tight about that sort of thing? Er, whatever it is.

Where does it show I am uptight? Im simply calling it as it is.

I apologize if that is difficult for you to deal with Paul.

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Mike,

Please do NOT use that term; I realise it may not necessarily be considered offensive in your country, but it is in many nations. Thank you.

First and only warning regarding use of language.

Paul,

That term may be a colloquialism in the UK (I note the British origin) but it is not in common use in my military, nor would it seem in Mike's. At least 3 people thought it referred to something else - a word that I would imagine a person in the UK would easily recognise, and recognise as a swear word. Please avoid any confusion in future.

What language? I used the word properly, and by definition.

Now it is plain to see why the complaints section is the longest running one here.

I have no issue with being called a ranker.....I am (was) in fact an enlisted man.

Paul should have no issue, given his proud contempt, with being called a word that by definition means a contemptuous person.

Whats the issue here Evan?

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Mike,

Please do NOT use that term; I realise it may not necessarily be considered offensive in your country, but it is in many nations. Thank you.

First and only warning regarding use of language.

Paul,

That term may be a colloquialism in the UK (I note the British origin) but it is not in common use in my military, nor would it seem in Mike's. At least 3 people thought it referred to something else - a word that I would imagine a person in the UK would easily recognise, and recognise as a swear word. Please avoid any confusion in future.

So it has come to this.

For those who may be unfamiliar with the idiom (no typo) in question, Evan refers to a euphemism for a person who habitually demonstrates ... oh, how shall I phrase this? ... an unholy and tactile self-absorbtion.

But enough about my hobbies (apologies to Woody Allen).

Much to the satisfaction of those who would disrupt the flow of information and ideas, this thread has devolved from a long-overdue, impossible-to-overvalue discussion of the vulnerabilities of Internet forums such as this to non-technological assaults, to a Python-worthy exchange on the semiotics and pragmatics of military and schoolyard slang.

Speaking of the latter: Perhaps John Simkin should consider a more hands-on presence here?

Charles

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Mike,

Please do NOT use that term; I realise it may not necessarily be considered offensive in your country, but it is in many nations. Thank you.

First and only warning regarding use of language.

Paul,

That term may be a colloquialism in the UK (I note the British origin) but it is not in common use in my military, nor would it seem in Mike's. At least 3 people thought it referred to something else - a word that I would imagine a person in the UK would easily recognise, and recognise as a swear word. Please avoid any confusion in future.

What?? So the term "ranker" which is NOT a swear word but could be "confused" with a word that is is now off limits??

At first I thought this had to be a joke.

What on earth is happening here?

"And the rest is silence"

Dawn

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Mike,

Please do NOT use that term; I realise it may not necessarily be considered offensive in your country, but it is in many nations. Thank you.

First and only warning regarding use of language.

Paul,

That term may be a colloquialism in the UK (I note the British origin) but it is not in common use in my military, nor would it seem in Mike's. At least 3 people thought it referred to something else - a word that I would imagine a person in the UK would easily recognise, and recognise as a swear word. Please avoid any confusion in future.

What?? So the term "ranker" which is NOT a swear word but could be "confused" with a word that is is now off limits??

At first I thought this had to be a joke.

What on earth is happening here?

"And the rest is silence"

Dawn

Ms. Dawn,

I whole heartedly agree. I see no harm in the word ranker. Its meaning is enlisted man, and that suits me just fine!

However I will certainly avoid calling anyone a trucker! :lol:

Mike

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Or an other trucker.

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All kidding aside, my cousin Louie had a summer job in quality control at a company that sold cork for marine and wine industry use.

His task was to test the product's saturation levels by immersing samples, chosen at random, in moving water of various temperatures and salinities.

His official job title was cork soaker.

__________________________

Many observers of organized crime know that Sammy "The Bull" Gravano was "flipped" by the "Feds" to "rat out" his former boss, the late John Gotti. It now seems that Gravano, who recently opted out of the Witness Protection Program, is carrying a pistol for purposes of personal protection.

This weapon might artfully be described as a gun of a snitch.

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Do you know the difference between an arrogant rooster and a corrupt barrister?

The arrogant rooster clucks defiance ...

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Just my cute little way of probing (sorry) for limits.

Hey, it's as rational as Burton's objections to "ranker."

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Or an other trucker.

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All kidding aside, my cousin Louie had a summer job in quality control at a company that sold cork for marine and wine industry use.

His task was to test the product's saturation levels by immersing samples, chosen at random, in moving water of various temperatures and salinities.

His official job title was cork soaker.

__________________________

Many observers of organized crime know that Sammy "The Bull" Gravano was "flipped" by the "Feds" to "rat out" his former boss, the late John Gotti. It now seems that Gravano, who recently opted out of the Witness Protection Program, is carrying a pistol for purposes of personal protection.

This weapon might artfully be described as a gun of a snitch.

___________________________

Do you know the difference between an arrogant rooster and a corrupt barrister?

The arrogant rooster clucks defiance ...

____________________________

Just my cute little way of probing (sorry) for limits.

Hey, it's as rational as Burton's objections to "ranker."

probing enemy lines worthy of recon status Mr. Drago!

Bully for you sir!

Mike

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But seriously, I wish to go on record that I cannot and shall not be personally offended by a post on this Forum. So, dear moderators, please be advised that, for whatever it's worth, you needn't scold, censor, or in any other form or fashion punish any of our correspondents for even the boldest, most ignorant libel leveled or slander slung in my direction.

Charles

Thank you Charles, but the issue is not whether you will be offended; it is about a member violating the Forum rules.

Exactly WHAT forum rule was broken by my post Evan? A direct quote please

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So it has come to this.

For those who may be unfamiliar with the idiom (no typo) in question, Evan refers to a euphemism for a person who habitually demonstrates ... oh, how shall I phrase this? ... an unholy and tactile self-absorbtion.

Charles

Charles, how to phrase this, The term in question, not ranker, but five letters along in the alphabet, is applied to a specific meaning, but also a more general one, to whit, IDIOT, FOOL, BACKSTABBER, SELFISH, UNCOMPREHENDING etc, etc. And is almost Shakespearean in its scope. Hope this helps. Steve.

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Exactly WHAT forum rule was broken by my post Evan? A direct quote please

An attack on another member. The post implied certain behavior by another member. There were 3 complaints about it from members, and I agreed it was inappropriate.

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Charles, how to phrase this, The term in question, not ranker, but five letters along in the alphabet, is applied to a specific meaning, but also a more general one, to whit, IDIOT, FOOL, BACKSTABBER, SELFISH, UNCOMPREHENDING etc, etc. And is almost Shakespearean in its scope. Hope this helps. Steve.

Thanks, Steve.

I was referencing the SELF-STABBER, if you will.

And I assure you, no stones are being cast by this sinner.

I'll get a grip on myself and move on.

Charles

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I'll get a grip on myself and move on.

Charles

Charles, Benny Hill would have paid a fortune for material like that.

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I'll get a grip on myself and move on.

Charles

Charles, Benny Hill would have paid a fortune for material like that.

Stephen,

It also by definition is a contemptuous person.

Benny Hill did pay a fortune for this material. Where do you think Charles GETS his stuff?

I hope you reconsider as a moderator, I assure you the options look bleak.

Mike

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I'll get a grip on myself and move on.

Charles

Charles, Benny Hill would have paid a fortune for material like that.

Stephen,

It also by definition is a contemptuous person.

Benny Hill did pay a fortune for this material. Where do you think Charles GETS his stuff?

I hope you reconsider as a moderator, I assure you the options look bleak.

Mike

Oooooooooh! I'm being called a plagiarist. First by "Colby," now by "his" putative herr apparent.

Or I am noting nothing more than coincidence -- as opposed to happenstance and/or enemy action, as Ian Fleming might have it?

It may be difficult for some of the limited intellects on this Forum to grasp, but original wit comes easy to some of us.

So don't tell me I steal others' lines.

Or pretty soon you won't have Charles Drago to kick around anymore.

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