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Jack White:

Some of us in the SFRG are not convinced that there are only two Oswalds. We have definitely found files on different Oswalds, as you have found photos of many Oswalds.

Yes, there may be 3 Oswalds, and that may be why John Armstrong has strong negative feelings about Judyth Vary Baker. He has conclusive evidence on Two Oswalds. That is an excellent work, and his book "Harvey & Lee" has nearly sold out I hear. I gave away 5 copies to close friends/researchers.

Now, let us persue some new possibilities. I have no question that the voracity of the person on the snail mail sent you is above reproach, and therefore conclude that most of that side of the story is accurate. He worked with a former Army Buddy of mine, who eventually became Managing Director of the Fortune 500 firm where they both worked.

So from here, we should go on to persue Judyth's side, in the absence of photos, tapes, letters etc. Remember that with Donald Norton, Oswald would not sign his name. He printed his name on the two letters sent to his girl friend. This is not taught in High School. This event was told by John Judge from a meeting with the girls in Akron Ohio during the 70s. Did either of the Armstrong Oswalds only print their name?

I have put some feelers out re: The 60 Minutes aspect of the story, and who put the pressure on Don Hewitt to cancel Judyths or her witnesses appearance on the show last November to no avail.

Had her story been validated on 60 Minutes right after the History Channel Documentary, this would have been a slam dunk. Had I not heard Don Hewitt saying "They slammed the door in our face, cancelling the program," while in Dallas last November, I would not have believed it. This was a PBS show replayed at midnight. Until then I considered Judyth irrelevant.

Nobody is talking in Black Watch thus far. CBS used to be my account when I lived in New York, but old contacts there have retired. Paley knew Dorothy Killgallen and had contacts in Langley VA, so the CBS file on the case may have many more answers.

The only file we have from the CBS collection thus far is a memo from Bob Richter to Les Midgley, about David Lifton's background, where he worked for North American Aviation for 2 years, and took a course by Wesley Liebeler at UCLA, who gave Lifton an FBI report about the crane that went into Dealey Plaza late in the evening of Nov 22, and when the police went to see the operators, they ran away. It turned out to be a stolen crane. In my opinion, the crane operator put the iron grate back on the drain before being seen by the police. Does anybody out there remember this event or have a picture of where the crane was? Lifton's conjecture was that they were moving trees in heavy pots, which may have been temporary camouflage for the perps ?

Perhaps someone out there knows Don Hewitt, and can get him to volunteer to arrange an interview with one of our TV crews.

As I mentioned Dr. Len Horowitz and his two books about viruses, and the connections with Ochsner, New Orleans, Aids, Ebola and viruses, Judyths story may have more importance in the Biowarfare aspects, rather than the JFK case.

So I agree with you, that she may lead us nowhere in the JFK case, but with the recent (last 5 years) disappearances and unusual deaths of 23 scientists, all specialists in Biowarfare technologies, this story may be even bigger than the JFK event.

Would these deceased people have been the only ones qualified to objectively investigate an event that has not yet occurred? We shall see.

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Jack White:

Some of us in the SFRG are not convinced that there are only two Oswalds. We have definitely found files on different Oswalds, as you have found photos of many Oswalds.

Yes, there may be 3 Oswalds, and that may be why John Armstrong has strong negative feelings about Judyth Vary Baker.  He has conclusive evidence on Two Oswalds.  That is an excellent work, and his book "Harvey & Lee" has nearly sold out I hear.  I gave away 5 copies to close friends/researchers.

Now, let us persue some new possibilities.  I have no question that the voracity of the person on the snail mail sent you is above reproach, and therefore conclude that most of that side of the story is accurate.  He worked with a former Army Buddy of mine, who eventually became Managing Director of the Fortune 500 firm where they both worked.

So from here, we should go on to persue Judyth's side, in the absence of photos, tapes, letters etc.  Remember that with Donald Norton, Oswald would not sign his name.  He printed his name on the two letters sent to his girl friend.  This is not taught in High School.  This event was told by John Judge from a meeting with the girls in Akron Ohio during the 70s. Did either of the Armstrong Oswalds only print their name?

I have put some feelers out re: The 60 Minutes aspect of the story, and who put the pressure on Don Hewitt to cancel Judyths or her witnesses appearance on the show last November to no avail.

Had her story been validated on 60 Minutes right after the History Channel Documentary, this would have been a slam dunk. Had I not heard Don Hewitt saying "They slammed the door in our face, cancelling the program," while in Dallas last November, I would not have believed it.  This was a PBS show replayed at midnight.  Until then I considered Judyth irrelevant.

Nobody is talking in Black Watch thus far.  CBS used to be my account when I lived in New York, but old contacts there have retired.  Paley knew Dorothy Killgallen and had contacts in Langley VA, so the CBS file on the case may have many more answers.

The only file we have from the CBS collection thus far is a memo from Bob Richter to Les Midgley, about David Lifton's background, where he worked for North American Aviation for 2 years, and took a course by Wesley Liebeler at UCLA, who gave Lifton an FBI report about the crane that went into Dealey Plaza late in the evening of Nov 22, and when the police went to see the operators, they ran away.  It turned out to be a stolen crane.  In my opinion, the crane operator put the iron grate back on the drain before being seen by the police.  Does anybody out there remember this event or have a picture of where the crane was?  Lifton's conjecture was that they were moving trees in heavy pots, which may have been temporary camouflage for the perps ?

Perhaps someone out there knows Don Hewitt, and can get him to volunteer to arrange an interview with one of our TV crews.

As I mentioned Dr. Len Horowitz and his two books about viruses, and the connections with Ochsner, New Orleans, Aids, Ebola and viruses, Judyths story may have more importance in the Biowarfare aspects, rather than the JFK case.

So I agree with you, that she may lead us nowhere in the JFK case, but with the recent (last 5 years) disappearances and unusual deaths of 23 scientists, all specialists in Biowarfare technologies, this story may be even bigger than the JFK event.

Would these deceased people have been the only ones qualified to objectively investigate an event that has not yet occurred?  We shall see.

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Jack White:

Some of us in the SFRG are not convinced that there are only two Oswalds. We have definitely found files on different Oswalds, as you have found photos of many Oswalds.

Yes, there may be 3 Oswalds, and that may be why John Armstrong has strong negative feelings about Judyth Vary Baker.  He has conclusive evidence on Two Oswalds.  That is an excellent work, and his book "Harvey & Lee" has nearly sold out I hear.  I gave away 5 copies to close friends/researchers.

Now, let us persue some new possibilities.  I have no question that the voracity of the person on the snail mail sent you is above reproach, and therefore conclude that most of that side of the story is accurate.  He worked with a former Army Buddy of mine, who eventually became Managing Director of the Fortune 500 firm where they both worked.

So from here, we should go on to persue Judyth's side, in the absence of photos, tapes, letters etc.  Remember that with Donald Norton, Oswald would not sign his name.  He printed his name on the two letters sent to his girl friend.  This is not taught in High School.  This event was told by John Judge from a meeting with the girls in Akron Ohio during the 70s. Did either of the Armstrong Oswalds only print their name?

I have put some feelers out re: The 60 Minutes aspect of the story, and who put the pressure on Don Hewitt to cancel Judyths or her witnesses appearance on the show last November to no avail.

Had her story been validated on 60 Minutes right after the History Channel Documentary, this would have been a slam dunk. Had I not heard Don Hewitt saying "They slammed the door in our face, cancelling the program," while in Dallas last November, I would not have believed it.  This was a PBS show replayed at midnight.  Until then I considered Judyth irrelevant.

Nobody is talking in Black Watch thus far.  CBS used to be my account when I lived in New York, but old contacts there have retired.  Paley knew Dorothy Killgallen and had contacts in Langley VA, so the CBS file on the case may have many more answers.

The only file we have from the CBS collection thus far is a memo from Bob Richter to Les Midgley, about David Lifton's background, where he worked for North American Aviation for 2 years, and took a course by Wesley Liebeler at UCLA, who gave Lifton an FBI report about the crane that went into Dealey Plaza late in the evening of Nov 22, and when the police went to see the operators, they ran away.  It turned out to be a stolen crane.  In my opinion, the crane operator put the iron grate back on the drain before being seen by the police.  Does anybody out there remember this event or have a picture of where the crane was?  Lifton's conjecture was that they were moving trees in heavy pots, which may have been temporary camouflage for the perps ?

Perhaps someone out there knows Don Hewitt, and can get him to volunteer to arrange an interview with one of our TV crews.

As I mentioned Dr. Len Horowitz and his two books about viruses, and the connections with Ochsner, New Orleans, Aids, Ebola and viruses, Judyths story may have more importance in the Biowarfare aspects, rather than the JFK case.

So I agree with you, that she may lead us nowhere in the JFK case, but with the recent (last 5 years) disappearances and unusual deaths of 23 scientists, all specialists in Biowarfare technologies, this story may be even bigger than the JFK event.

Would these deceased people have been the only ones qualified to objectively investigate an event that has not yet occurred?  We shall see.

Hi there Treefrog!

You may be quite right about MORE THAN 2 LHOs. I cannot and do not speak for John Armstrong. But this does NOT affect the research he DOES present.

I do know that he chose NOT to include several instances of LHOs which DID NOT FIT the overwhelming evidence of LEE and HARVEY. He felt (and I agreed) that such would only dilute the important provable persons LEE and HARVEY.

Long before John wrote his book, I had independently decided that there were perhaps as many as four or more Oswalds and two or more Marguerites. John settled on ONLY two as being far less confusing and easier to support.

Most of the "extra Oswalds" occur in Russia. (see attachment) But not all, in my opinion.

The study of the extra Oswalds and Marguerites deserves much additional study.

Robert Oswald and Marina could tell us...but won't.

Jack :)

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