Fetzer replies to Thompson's constant goading

[Jack White]

Dr. Fetzer has posted an excellent reply to Tink Thompson at

http://jfkresearch.com/forum3/index.php?to...icseen#msg24590

I urge everyone to read it. The text is far too long to post here.

I provided several graphics for his paper, such as these two, which show the enlargement

of the Z background. There are other graphics included with his text.

Jack

Revised to fix minor error in graphic.

Edited December 10, 2008 by Jack White

[Bill Miller]

Apron Man wouldn't be a giant from one film to the other if both were scaled the same ... and both films had been taken from the same height.

Bill Miller

[Jack White]

Apron Man wouldn't be a giant from one film to the other if both were scaled the same ... and both films had been taken from the same height.

Bill Miller

Both frames are scaled the same, have the same aspect ratio, and

were taken from the Zapruder pedestal.

Jack

[Bill Miller]

Both frames are scaled the same, have the same aspect ratio, and

were taken from the Zapruder pedestal.

Jack

The hell you say!

[Guest Stephen Turner]

Why would anyone attempting to fake the Z film include giants in it?

[Bill Miller]

Why would anyone attempting to fake the Z film include giants in it?

They wouldn't ... they only become a giant when you take a smaller Zfilm recreation image and paste them onto it ... like Jack did.

Bill Miller

[Jack White]

Both frames are scaled the same, have the same aspect ratio, and

were taken from the Zapruder pedestal.

Jack

The hell you say!

Hey...Miller gets my point! The frames do not match!

Jack

[Craig Lamson]

Both frames are scaled the same, have the same aspect ratio, and

were taken from the Zapruder pedestal.

Jack

The hell you say!

Hey...Miller gets my point! The frames do not match!

Jack

No you miss Millers point...you incorrectly scaled the two images. Try again next time. BTW, have you seen Dr. Johns thrashing of you and Fetzers LATEST moorman in the street silliness? When will you finally admit your errors?

[Bill Miller]

No you miss Millers point...you incorrectly scaled the two images. Try again next time. BTW, have you seen Dr. Johns thrashing of you and Fetzers LATEST moorman in the street silliness? When will you finally admit your errors?

How can Jack and fetzer not notice the scaling error between those two films???

By the way ... Who is Dr. Johns and is there a link to this thrashing???

Bill Miller

Edited December 10, 2008 by Bill Miller

[Craig Lamson]

No you miss Millers point...you incorrectly scaled the two images. Try again next time. BTW, have you seen Dr. Johns thrashing of you and Fetzers LATEST moorman in the street silliness? When will you finally admit your errors?

How can Jack and fetzer not notice the scaling error between those two films???

By the way ... Who is Dr. Johns and is there a link to this thrashing???

Bill Miller

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jfk-research...group&slk=1

[Chris Davidson]

I thought it might be interesting to align what Jack has supplied and what I shot with my B/H 414 on telephoto.

The first movie is my frame(sprocket holes included) reduced to 65% and placed over Phil's frame.

I believe they pretty well match each other except for the parallax factor ( curb line).

Movie2 in next post.

chris

Edited December 10, 2008 by Chris Davidson

[Chris Davidson]

This movie is a comparison between the Z frame and my frame.

I used this Z frame because the aspect ratio from this version more closely matches my film.

In order to get the sprocket holes and frame size the same, I had to reduce only the Z frame WIDTH by 5%.

The rotation of the frames in both movies was 2-2.5 degrees.

Parallax still a factor, but not sure if that should affect the distance between wall holes and tree.

Phil's and my frames obviously were not in the same filming position, yet the wall holes and tree line up.

chris

Edited December 10, 2008 by Chris Davidson

[Chris Davidson]

These are the original frames I started with, if interested.

I did create contrast in the original, so the wall holes in movie 1 would show up a little better.

chris

[Chris Davidson]

BTW,

This is what it looks like on the wide angle/normal setting.

If it helps.

chris

[Craig Lamson]

BTW,

This is what it looks like on the wide angle/normal setting.

If it helps.

chris

I got a different result. The z frame and Phils recreation frame are a very good alignment, curb, tree and holes when properly sized. You frame however is the oddball. It missses both other frames on the distance tree to hole and curb.