Don Roberdeau Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) Good Day.... In the following 5-1-06 NYT obituary.... http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/01/us/01swindal.html?_r=2 ....for JAMES B. SWINDALL, the USAF Colonel and Air Force One pilot on 11-22-63, it states, "Soon afterward, the Secret Service communications gear on Air Force One went dead." Can you provide an additional reference(s) further detailing the SS comm gear on AF1 malfunctioning after the assassination? What was the personnel chain-of-command for the operations of the SS comm gear? Etc, etc? Thank You, in advance. Best Regards in Research, Don Don Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, "Big John," Plank Walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... Visual Report: The First Impact: JFK While "Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree': Z-188, then, Z-203 to 206" Discovery: Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll Homepage: President JOHN F. KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Research & Discovery Links Dealey Plaza Professionally-surveyed Map: Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise kill zone locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspects & suspected bullet trajectories, & Important information & Considerations Visual File: JFK Assassination Research, Maps, & Discoveries for Your Considerations T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore National Terror Alert for the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/ Edited February 17, 2009 by Don Roberdeau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Good Day.... In the following 5-1-06 NYT obituary.... http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/01/us/01swindal.html?_r=2 ....for JAMES B. SWINDALL, the USAF Colonel and Air Force One pilot on 11-22-63, it states, "Soon afterward, the Secret Service communications gear on Air Force One went dead." Can you provide an additional reference(s) further detailing the SS comm gear on AF1 malfunctioning after the assassination? What was the personnel chain-of-command for the operations of the SS comm gear? Etc, etc? Thank You, in advance. Best Regards in Research, Don Don Roberdeau U.S.S. John F. Kennedy, CV-67, "Big John," Plank Walker Sooner, or later, The Truth emerges Clearly For your considerations.... Visual Report: The First Impact: JFK While "Hidden Under the 'magic-limbed-ricochet-tree': Z-188, then, Z-203 to 206" Discovery: Very Close JFK Assassination Witness ROSEMARY WILLIS Zapruder Film Documented 2nd Headsnap: West, Ultrafast, and Directly Towards the Grassy Knoll Homepage: President JOHN F. KENNEDY "Men of Courage" speech, and Assassination Research & Discovery Links Dealey Plaza Professionally-surveyed Map: Detailing 11-22-63 Victims precise kill zone locations, Witnesses, Films & Photos, Evidence, Suspects & suspected bullet trajectories, & Important information & Considerations Visual File: JFK Assassination Research, Maps, & Discoveries for Your Considerations T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore National Terror Alert for the United States: http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/ Don, I don't think that statement about the SS radios going dead is accurate. Having read the book years ago, I don't remember that being in the book. Also, recently read the White House Communcations Agency reports from their men on the ground in Dallas and there is no mention of a breakdown. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...o?docSetId=1090 While the WHCA was not very cooperative with the ARRB, and they did not furnish the complete transcript of the AF1 radio communcations or the unedited tape, both of which they should have, it does not appear that the SS radio channel "went dead" at any point. BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Nelson Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Some excerpts from Manchester's book: P. 263: The Presidential party's rear echelon at the airport didn't know what had happened at the hospital, and the best informed among them had only the haziest notion of the motorcade's movements after 12:30 P.M. The last transmissions the aircraft had received from downtown Dallas had been Kellerman's alarm and Robert's 'Have Dagger cover Volunteer". Then the plane's Charlie set had gone dead. Swindal had gathered that there was an emergency of some sort, but he could only speculate.......Because of theCharlie blackout, and because the Signalmen who could operate the more complex equipment were all in the terminal restaurant (no one aboard remembered the UPI and AP teletype machines) Swindal had turned to the stateroom television set..... P. 266: In 26000's communications hack Johns made a discovery which was to grow in importance over the next hour. Jerry Behn, thanks to Colonel McNally's electronic sorcery, was now in direct telephone communication with the plane through the Signal Corps switchboards in the Sheraton-Dallas and Hotel Texas. The link meant that the government in the capital needn't be a slave to television. Furthermore, the splice between the White House and the plane made two-way conversations possible. P. 267: ...Learning from the agents of the Vice Presidential detail that the communications shack was in contact with Washington, he eagerly looked around for telephones. The closest one hung from a hook on the other side of the aisle. He ignored it. Possbily he could not yet bring himself to sit at Kennedy's stateroom desk, though the more plausible explanation is that he wanted solitude. In any event,... P. 268: ..the instrument he did use was on another, smaller Presidential desk,in Kennedy's quarters. It goes on to explain that though communications were restored, none of the conversations while the plane was still on the tarmac were recorded because that gear didn't work unless the engines were running. They were not recorded until 2:47 pm. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Some excerpts from Manchester's book:P. 263: The Presidential party's rear echelon at the airport didn't know what had happened at the hospital, and the best informed among them had only the haziest notion of the motorcade's movements after 12:30 P.M. The last transmissions the aircraft had received from downtown Dallas had been Kellerman's alarm and Robert's 'Have Dagger cover Volunteer". Then the plane's Charlie set had gone dead. Swindal had gathered that there was an emergency of some sort, but he could only speculate.......Because of theCharlie blackout, and because the Signalmen who could operate the more complex equipment were all in the terminal restaurant (no one aboard remembered the UPI and AP teletype machines) Swindal had turned to the stateroom television set..... P. 266: In 26000's communications hack Johns made a discovery which was to grow in importance over the next hour. Jerry Behn, thanks to Colonel McNally's electronic sorcery, was now in direct telephone communication with the plane through the Signal Corps switchboards in the Sheraton-Dallas and Hotel Texas. The link meant that the government in the capital needn't be a slave to television. Furthermore, the splice between the White House and the plane made two-way conversations possible. P. 267: ...Learning from the agents of the Vice Presidential detail that the communications shack was in contact with Washington, he eagerly looked around for telephones. The closest one hung from a hook on the other side of the aisle. He ignored it. Possbily he could not yet bring himself to sit at Kennedy's stateroom desk, though the more plausible explanation is that he wanted solitude. In any event,... P. 268: ..the instrument he did use was on another, smaller Presidential desk,in Kennedy's quarters. It goes on to explain that though communications were restored, none of the conversations while the plane was still on the tarmac were recorded because that gear didn't work unless the engines were running. They were not recorded until 2:47 pm. Hope this helps. Thanks, Phil. Here's some of Fred Boring's interview in which he discusses the WHC system and Charlie net. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=3 BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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