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Hey, I've been to some home-brewed constitutional law classes and a lot of websites that claim the Federal Reserve is unconstitutional and has controlled most of our depressions, but I usually find very little evidence, and I've been trying to show a friend who is very intelligent but very skeptical(in the way of denying anything but the mainstream view of things, for instance, his view was "why worry about the federal reserve or the national deficit? it's not like we'll ever have to pay it ourselves anyways"). So, I was wondering if someone could point me to books or(preferably) websites that have the factually based evidence on the Federal Reserve's wrongdoing instead of the rhetoric about it being ungodlike or whatever.

Things I know about it so far:

--it was built partially as "economy insurance" to protect us from just the kind of economic troubles we are having right now

--it is not Federal/Governmental

--it is owned by commercial banks in each district, and throughout the world

--it "creates money" by how much it lends at what interest, how many stocks bonds it buys/sells, etc, and writes out a "blank check" of interest-free dollars for each expense it's facilities have.

--it uses the fractional reserve deposit system in it's loans to normal banks, so as to only have roughly 2% of the money supply in actual existence at any one time(mostly)

--it was pushed through without enough senators/congressman, or with the bare minimum, over a holiday, ala the Patriot Act

--it(the idea) was sold to our gov't by a central banker from europe

--it was created officially in 1913

--it caused the passing of new amendments(indirectly) such as the 16th about income tax, which some debate are even constitutional

--it bypassed the requirements of only our congress printing money by using "US Credit Rating" to borrow billions back then at unfeasible interest even today from those banks

Things I've heard thirdhand but have not looked up or have not found from a direct source yet:

--it demanded all of our gold(in fort knox and elsewhere) and even seized gold from private citizens for it's first interest payment, thus the gold in fort knox may or may not be there, but isn't even ours anymore anyways

--it has no clause, stipulation or explanation of how the primary debt can even be paid down in it's creation

--it caused the great depression and other collapses by calling in all of it's loans at once, even though it obviously knew noone was in a position to pay them, and then proceeded to speculate in land, more banks, and other ventures

--it was involved with switching from gold and silver standard monies to worthless paper credits that "resolve" your debt to the federal reserve when used but are ultimately valueless themselves, in every sense of the word

--the IRS are actually it's tax collectors, and thusly, strictly illegal, which is why many have won on a constitutional grounds when not paying income tax

--when every child is born, a dummy corporation with it's name in all capital letters is created with it's equal portion of the national debt, as a promissary for work it will do

--there are technically 3 gov'ts in effect right now: the constitutional US, the sovereign nation of the United States, and the Federal US, and the way income tax and the national deficit works is to treat us all as indebted merchants under the admiralty law of the Federal Govt, which allows trials only as a privilege, and in which one judge's word is law, rather than a Jury of Judges who interpret within the spirit as well as the letter of the law, as I've been told Constitutional trials did.

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http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=59049

Executive Order 11110 - Amendment of Executive Order No. 10289 as Amended, Relating to the Performance of Certain Functions Affecting the Department of the Treasury

June 4, 1963

By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:

SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended --

(a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j):

"(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (B) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (B)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption," and

(B) By revoking subparagraphs (B) and © of paragraph 2 thereof.

SEC. 2. The amendment made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made. JOHN F. KENNEDY

THE WHITE

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http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=59049

Executive Order 11110 - Amendment of Executive Order No. 10289 as Amended, Relating to the Performance of Certain Functions Affecting the Department of the Treasury

June 4, 1963

By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:

SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended --

(a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j):

"(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (B) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (B)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption," and

(B) By revoking subparagraphs (B) and © of paragraph 2 thereof.

SEC. 2. The amendment made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made. JOHN F. KENNEDY

THE WHITE

Yeah, that's what I referenced in the JFK forums, it interests me that we apparently still have rights to print metal-backed dollars yet don't.

Aren't they then interest free also?

Anyways do you think it ties into the motive of why he was killed?

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