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P.S. in reference to Texaco PBY. On each side of the cockpit, painted below the windows, was a small painted art logo.., like a patch; It was a, "Black Cat" with a "Red Bird", in its mouth setting on a gree tree limb withjn a round yellow background. Anyone familiar with this logo?

Try posting a request on this site or their related sites:

http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/

Someone out there might know about that Texaco PBY logo.

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"... Rorke's connection to the owner of a CIA operated PBY out of Miami, and to a CIA man named Montgomery Luft - all aspects in the months just before both men disappeared. ...'.

James: That was the PBY that was at one time going to be used to remove Eddie Bayo from Cuba. (check Billings background info) The mission failed and Pawley provided a ship to go in a get Bayo and others out off Cuba. that too, failed. (the Thor? or Winder Jammer? been awhile) ( I think Rampart Magazine covered some of this in the mid seventies; "The CIA's Secret Yacht War, by Warren Hinckle) I think Bill Turner might be able to shed a little light on that operation. "Fish are Red", and "Deadly Secrets" come to mind, also.

The PBY was reg to "Texaco Petroleum", and later to, "Atlantic Richfield" One of the pilots who used to fly this PBY, Catalina, was Manuel Rojas a previous "Regina Cuban Air Cargo" pilot. He was earlier with Riddle Airlines back in 1957.

I flew as co-pilot on a few of those early raids into Cuba with Rorke and at one time with Sturges in a C-46 and another in a D-18 Twin Beach, previously (1958-59?) owned by Steve Guthrie. This raid or flight was in early 62 or 63... In 1959 the PBY was used to take some of us off the island of Cuba after a botched landing in a DC-3... FWIW.

Rorke also flew out of a small landing strip near CT "The Sea Spray Inn", which burned down around the sixties, I think. The PBY in question had been retro fitted at one time at LB Smith Aircraft, Miami. (not sure if this was before the BoP or after) It (the PBY) had originally been flown from Maranda Airpark, Tucson to Miami via New Orlanes, as well as two A-26's, which were later used in the BoP and flown by Crispin and Gonzalas in that operation. ( A-26-A or B-26 K; ID N 933 I think it was)

Alex Rorke about this time obtained money from up north (NY) and obtained access to and old navy vessel which became known as the "Raider Ship Rex" and made raids into Cuba from Everglades Fla,. In time this ship became a communications platform for JFK and was berthed near the Kennedy compond at West Palm. Perhaps you already know this, but thought I would bring it up to date for those who might care or be interested in such matters (FWIW)

Now I'll go back under my rock..., I'm not much interested in JFK or Cuba research anymore, to many "Experts" out there.., but I do respect your research and dedication. If you can help Sherry in that regard.., , that would be wonderful.

Tosh,

Thanks for the info on the PBY. Muchly appreciated.

The Manuel Rojas you mentioned, could that have been Carlos Rojas?

This photo below shows Carlos Rojas.

Cheers,

James

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"... Rorke's connection to the owner of a CIA operated PBY out of Miami, and to a CIA man named Montgomery Luft - all aspects in the months just before both men disappeared. ...'.

James: That was the PBY that was at one time going to be used to remove Eddie Bayo from Cuba. (check Billings background info) The mission failed and Pawley provided a ship to go in a get Bayo and others out off Cuba. that too, failed. (the Thor? or Winder Jammer? been awhile) ( I think Rampart Magazine covered some of this in the mid seventies; "The CIA's Secret Yacht War, by Warren Hinckle) I think Bill Turner might be able to shed a little light on that operation. "Fish are Red", and "Deadly Secrets" come to mind, also.

The PBY was reg to "Texaco Petroleum", and later to, "Atlantic Richfield" One of the pilots who used to fly this PBY, Catalina, was Manuel Rojas a previous "Regina Cuban Air Cargo" pilot. He was earlier with Riddle Airlines back in 1957.

I flew as co-pilot on a few of those early raids into Cuba with Rorke and at one time with Sturges in a C-46 and another in a D-18 Twin Beach, previously (1958-59?) owned by Steve Guthrie. This raid or flight was in early 62 or 63... In 1959 the PBY was used to take some of us off the island of Cuba after a botched landing in a DC-3... FWIW.

Rorke also flew out of a small landing strip near CT "The Sea Spray Inn", which burned down around the sixties, I think. The PBY in question had been retro fitted at one time at LB Smith Aircraft, Miami. (not sure if this was before the BoP or after) It (the PBY) had originally been flown from Maranda Airpark, Tucson to Miami via New Orlanes, as well as two A-26's, which were later used in the BoP and flown by Crispin and Gonzalas in that operation. ( A-26-A or B-26 K; ID N 933 I think it was)

Alex Rorke about this time obtained money from up north (NY) and obtained access to and old navy vessel which became known as the "Raider Ship Rex" and made raids into Cuba from Everglades Fla,. In time this ship became a communications platform for JFK and was berthed near the Kennedy compond at West Palm. Perhaps you already know this, but thought I would bring it up to date for those who might care or be interested in such matters (FWIW)

Now I'll go back under my rock..., I'm not much interested in JFK or Cuba research anymore, to many "Experts" out there.., but I do respect your research and dedication. If you can help Sherry in that regard.., , that would be wonderful.

Tosh,

Thanks for the info on the PBY. Muchly appreciated.

The Manuel Rojas you mentioned, could that have been Carlos Rojas?

This photo below shows Carlos Rojas.

Cheers,

James

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Sherry Sullivan here again. Thanks for all of the replies to my request on CT property. I have a photo taken by Rorke in July 1959 in Costa Rica. These men are obviously signing some type of agreement. Any thoughts on who these people might be? It seems that I am only able to load one photo at a time. I have more if anyone is interested. Thanks, Sherry

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Sherry,

Any luck with finding out the owner of the Connecticut home your father may have visited with Rorke? Do you think that it is possible that it could have

been William F. Buckley's home in or near Darien which has miles and miles of beachfront property? Is it worth finding out his address as a possibility?

Has anyone here, besides James Richards who already knows about Morris A. Schapiro and The Boston Metals Processing Company come across his

name before or that of Louis E. Wolfson, who owned both The Miami Beach Sun and a Jacksonville newspaper as well? Wolfson bought out the remnants

of some of the businesses of The Boston Metals Processing Company and merged them into Universal-Marion in Jacksonville, Florida. Wolfson also donated

a serious chunk of change to Jim Garrison during the Clay Shaw trial to help find out who killed JFK apparently. I think that neither Wolfson nor Schapiro

where guilty of any overt, intentional acts which led to the death of JFK but they probably had a pretty good idea who did which is why Wolfson tried to

help Garrison find out the answers to the mystery. Schapiro was basically a truly patriotic Investment Banker for the Pentagon's interests during World

War II and the Korean War, then certain individuals from the CIA, like Ray S. Cline and Harold Chait, took over Schapiro's secret back room banking channels to funnel money to South Florida Soldiers of Fortune and anti-Castro Cuban exiles to help them in their campaigns first against Castro then later against JFK when their attempts

to oust Castro failed entirely. Schapiro owned both The Boston Metals Processing Company and Baldt Anchor and Chain of Chester, PA which were considered

national defense based businesses vital to the security of this country during times of war or international conflicts. Baldt has made anchors and anchor chain for

the U.S. Navy for over 100 years and was also used as a money laundering machine by these CIA types during the Viet Nam War, during Iran-Contra according

to a bank trust officer at Bank of Maryland and possibly even now for the Blackwater private armies run by certain former leaders of The Council for National Policy

like N. B. Hunt, Alton Ochsner, Jr., Tom Ellis, Tim LaHaye, Edwin Meese III and several others just like them. It is time to close the door on this use of corporations doing business with the Pentagon and the DoD to fund private mercenary operations which neither Congress nor the President know about. The Bank of Maryland, Baltimore branch, was used in most of these cases. Ask your congressperson to investigate, intervene and interdict these operations today.

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Rorke says his CIA contact was Commander Anderson of the U.S. Navy. I wonder if this was George Whelan Anderson:

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/gwanders.htm

Arleigh Burke and George Anderson.

James

James,

Thanks for these photos as usual. What are the various theories regarding exactly why the CIA, and who within the CIA, would want Alex Rorke dead? I think it was Winslow who floated the theory that the anti-Castro Cuban exiles might have wanted Rorke dead and gone after they identified him as the likely source of recent leaks which led to scuttling or disruption of various anti-Castro missions being launched from the Dade County area and the Keys. And it seems likely that if the far right discovered about Rorke's purported

meetings with Wilbur Baldinger, that would not have sat very well with them either. Now I know about Winslow's controversial reputation in constantly waffling about any possible Cuban exile involvement in the JFK hit despite evidence to the contrary, so what is your take, and Sherry's take on this subject? If in fact, Rorke discovered info about any of their

plans for the pending JFK hit, they would have flipped to paranoid, if they ever thought he would not personally advocate or support such an attack on JFK, especially given his known contacts with both his CIA officer, Commander Anderson of the Navy, and the recent contacts with Baldinger who was very close to the Reuther brothers, also JFK supporters like Rorke allegedly was as well.

1) Do you think Rorke was really an out and out JFK supporter and were the Cuban exiles fully aware of this, if in fact, it was true?

2) Do you agree that there were elements within the CIA who were still very strong JFK supporters who would have had nothing to do with any pending plots to deprive him

of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? The concept of indicting EVERYONE involved with South Florida intelligence operations in the JFK hit is absurd on its face, IMHO.

3) Do you agree that the JFK supporters in both South Florida and within various intelligence agencies would have not even been made privy to any such plans or plots against JFK because of their known allegiances to JFK? This entire plot would have been organized on a need to know basis in order to assure its successful completion.

Thanks.

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John,

I too have heard the anti-Castro exiles theory. The contacts I have that were around in the day are pretty tight lipped about Rorke and associates who they themselves can be connected to.

If one was motivated though, I do not believe it is too difficult to connect the dots.

Given that, there are some conflicting opinions regarding Rorke. Some saying he was straight up, others didn't trust him.

Regarding JFK supporters within the ranks of CIA, one must remember that at the time there was a small group of Agency men hovering around South Florida who acted with autonomy. They had no real regard for their superiors who in turn were reluctant in attempting to bring them into line.

These men considered themselves patriots and the Kennedys as traitors.

It was a unique time (1959 - 1964) and to really get a grasp on the way things were done, speaking with those who were there is vital - although it might take some prodding.

James

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Rorke says his CIA contact was Commander Anderson of the U.S. Navy. I wonder if this was George Whelan Anderson:

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/gwanders.htm

Arleigh Burke and George Anderson.

James

Gilpatric was the law partner of McCloy and Henry Luce's brother-in-law, Maurice "Tex" Moore, Time-Life Inc. chairman from 1942 to 1960, and Special Counsel to the General Dynamics board of directors executive committee, and was appointed a member of the General Dynamics board of directors.:

http://www.google.com/search?q=note+scott+gilpatric+belieu#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&tbm=bks&source=hp&q=maurice+moore+special+counsel+board+general+dynamics&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=6455a52e8f48720&biw=811&bih=493

Business week: Issues 1783-1790

1963 - Snippet view

Gilpatric, a specialist in corporate law, served as a special counsel to General Dynamics for slightly more than two ... Gilpatric personally chose Maurice T. Moore to take over the General Dynamics account when he left the law firm.

http://www.google.com/search?q=note+scott+gilpatric+belieu#q=maurice+moore+special+counsel+board+general+dynamics&hl=en&safe=off&tbm=nws&source=lnt&tbs=ar:1&sa=X&ei=T5P-TbHLJYySgQfQ9JXeCw&ved=0CA8QpwUoBQ&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=3f8f91b8d26edce0&biw=811&bih=493

New Director Named By General Dynamics

- New York Times - Jan 7, 1963

Maurice T. Moore, special counsel to the executive committee of the General Dynamics Corporation's board of directors, has been elected a director of tha .

http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/17th_Issue/rambler_fn.html

Note: (Peter Dale) Scott suggests that Gilpatric and Korth, along with the former assistant Navy secretary for installations and logistics (under Connally), Ken BeLieu,

should have been questioned about the contracts for installing sophisticated electronics aboard the Collins

Radio ship Rex and another ship, the Maddox, of Tonkin Gulf infamy.

http://www.google.com/search?q=note+scott+gilpatric+belieu#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&tbm=bks&source=hp&q=cia+%22william+c+doherty%22&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=6455a52e8f48720&biw=811&bih=493

AIFLD in Central America: agents as organizers

Tom Barry, Deb Preusch, Resource Center (Albuquerque, N.M.) - 1990 - 76 pages - Snippet view

William C. Doherty, Jr.: AIFLD Executive Director 1965 to Present Philip Agee identified Doherty as a "CIA agent in labor operations" for the agency's International Operations Division. Reader's Digest describes Doherty as a "gutsy"

Workers of the world undermined: American labor's role in U.S. ... - Page 51

Beth Sims - 1992 - 139 pages - Preview

Doherty's father, William C. Doherty, Sr., the longtime president of the letter carriers association, ... his personal expenses paid by the CIA — was identified by former CIA operatives as a conduit for passing intelligence agency funds ..

Baker Case Prober Seeks Check On Bank's Charter

The Spokesman-Review - Mar 20, 1964

....The charter for the District of Columbia National Bank was the first issued here in 29 years. Its application had been re jected by Saxon's predecessor. Although the bank's stock was oversubscribed when it was es tablished in 1962 Baker was al lowed to buy 1500 shares at a share. The stock has recently sold at 22.50 Stockholders Listed . William Collins, executive vice president of the bank, re commended the unsecured $125000 loan the bank gave Baker to buy a Washington mansion. Bolton, a member of the Banking and Currency CommitItee, told of his demand at ai press conference.' Reading from newspaper storlies, he listed other persons he said were bank stockholders. Among them were Adm. Arleigh Burke, former chief of naval operations; Assistant Navy Secretary Kenneth E. Belieu; William C. Doherty; former president of the National Association of Letter Carriers and now ambassador to Jamaica;....

Merry .Banker Is Innocent Victim .

‎By Jack Anderson

Ocala Star-Banner - Apr 7, 1964

The clamor against DC Na tional was first raised by Sen. Hugh Scott, who, on more than one occasion, has tried to influence the rulings of the Comptroller .

http://www.google.com/search?q=district+of+columbia+saxon+29+years&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a#q=district+of+columbia+saxon+29+years&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&tbm=nws&source=lnt&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:1964,cd_max:1964&sa=X&ei=mYj-Tef3AZTpgQfVjoHeCw&ved=0CBIQpwUoCA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=3f8f91b8d26edce0&biw=811&bih=493

Sparkman Tells of Buying Stock

Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - Feb 7, 1964

He acquired stock in the District of Columbia Nation- al Bank, which in 1962 obtained the first national bank charter issued in the capital in 29 years. .

DC Bank Deposits Soar After Saxon Cries Merger

Pay-Per-View - The Sun - Dec 12, 1964

DC National became ington's first new national bank 29 years when it was ln 1962 . Two have been since. Saxon told the rules there was heavy pressure the ...

Capital Bank Unhurt By Saxon Quote‎ - Toledo Blade Toledo Blade - Dec 11, 1964 .....

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There is pretty good circumstantial evidence, that Alexander Rorke jr. since 1960 was recruiting very young individuals for several KILL CASTRO PROJECTs.

Marita Lorenz (1960) and Lee Oswald in NOLA ( spring, summer 1963) were amongst them.

The following picture of Rorke jr. is of a lecture which he holds at MIT on Tuesday April 17 1962...

zjcu42.jpg

KK

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On 10/25/2009 at 3:30 AM, John Bevilaqua said:

Hi James,

Long time no hear. Or long time no here, either. Would you please send Sherry an eMail to sassully@roadrunner.com with your contact information? She has some really old photos with some unidentified suspects and/or perps which she would like you to review and then circulate through back channels as privately as possible among some of your contacts and friends.

Can you tell us more about this Wilbur Baldinger character you mentioned? Turns out that Sherman Billingsley used to pay Sherry's

father in cash for his piloting duties, and the Billingsley Connecticut home was somewhere between Darien and New Haven on the

Connecticut coast. Billingsley owned The Stork Club in Manhattan but lived in Connecticut apparently. I am still trying to track down

the address of his former residence. He apparently owned a yacht as well. There is an actor named Billingsley still alive today also from Connecticut who might be Sherman's son. Sherry thinks that it is pretty likely that Sherman Billingsley's home and yacht were the

usual destination of both Alexander Rorke, Billingsley's son-in-law, and Geoffrey Sullivan on their Connecticut road trips.

Thanks,

John B

 

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Judyth Vary Baker in her book ME AND LEE claims, that it was Alexander Rorke who was supposed to put Oswald and her out of the country, and to Mexico, after they (Baker and Oswald) finished their GET CASTRO PROJECT, which was a project to kill Castro with cancer-cells. When Oswald was in Mexico-City, Rorke disappeared with his plane. (September 1963). Rorke flew Oswald on several occasions. There was an other Oswald-Pilot who died in a plane crash. Hugh Ward in 1964. Ward was a privat-investigator and knew off Banister and his activities. Ferrie was an Oswald Pilot too. Oswalds Pilots Rorke, Ward, Ferrie: They all died within 3 and a half years. Why Rorke had to die in advance of the Kennedy-murder I can only guess: he was Oswalds agent handler in NOLA in the summer of 1963. 

 

KK

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Hi James:

On 11/8/2015 at 5:57 AM, Karl Kinaski said:

There is pretty good circumstantial evidence, that Alexander Rorke jr. since 1960 was recruiting very young individuals for several KILL CASTRO PROJECTs.

Marita Lorenz (1960) and Lee Oswald in NOLA ( spring, summer 1963) were amongst them.

The following picture of Rorke jr. is of a lecture which he holds at MIT on Tuesday April 17 1962...

zjcu42.jpg

KK

 

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My text got lost somehow when I added the photo. I wanted to thank all of you who take the time to respond and for your input. I also wanted to know if anyone recognizes this man. A photo associated with Alex Rorke in Costa Rica in 1961 (date uncertain). Thanks! Sherry

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