Pamela Brown Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Epstein makes this tantalizing statement at his site: http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/archived/oswald.htm On October 18th, Oswald's visa was approved by the Cuban Foreign Ministry (despite the fact that he had not officially received a Soviet visa,as required. Is there any documentation of this? If so, how was he notified? Epstein doesn't mention any documentation and my email to him came back. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Pointing Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) Epstein makes this tantalizing statement at his site:http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/archived/oswald.htm On October 18th, Oswald's visa was approved by the Cuban Foreign Ministry (despite the fact that he had not officially received a Soviet visa,as required. Is there any documentation of this? If so, how was he notified? Epstein doesn't mention any documentation and my email to him came back. Thanks. On October 18 the Cuban embassy in Mexico City approved the visa, and 11 days before the assassination Oswald wrote a letter to the Soviet embassy in Washington, D.C., which said, "Had I been able to reach the Soviet Embassy in Havana as planned, the embassy there would have had time to complete our business." http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hsca..._Vol8_0181b.htm http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/cia/...10202_0019a.htm Edited July 15, 2009 by Denis Pointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 Thank you, Dennis, this is helpful, yet still puzzling. Has anyone seen this visa? How was Oswald notified that it was available? By letter to the Paynes' address? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Thank you, Dennis, this is helpful, yet still puzzling. Has anyone seen this visa? How was Oswald notified that it was available? By letter to the Paynes' address? Yea, and how come all the Castro/Cuban Baiters like Gus Russo and Joe Califano, et al., don't use this as part of their arsenal? BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 Thank you, Dennis, this is helpful, yet still puzzling. Has anyone seen this visa? How was Oswald notified that it was available? By letter to the Paynes' address? Yea, and how come all the Castro/Cuban Baiters like Gus Russo and Joe Califano, et al., don't use this as part of their arsenal? BK I agree; this is really curious. Russo does mention it in Brother-In-Arms in the same vague terms. What is going on here? If it exists, why is there no definition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Howard Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Thank you, Dennis, this is helpful, yet still puzzling. Has anyone seen this visa? How was Oswald notified that it was available? By letter to the Paynes' address? Yea, and how come all the Castro/Cuban Baiters like Gus Russo and Joe Califano, et al., don't use this as part of their arsenal? BK I agree; this is really curious. Russo does mention it in Brother-In-Arms in the same vague terms. What is going on here? If it exists, why is there no definition? NEWSPAPER (WASHINGTON STAR) ARTICLE: CUBA WITHHELD OSWALD VISA http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Pointing Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 (edited) The first link below shows a translation of Oswald's application form, if you enlarge the image ( press ctrl an scroll) you can see Oswald gave his permanent address as: 4907 Magazine street, New Orleans, so presumably that's where the Cuban embassy would have notified Oswald, by mail, that his application was successful, which in turn would suggest that someone at that address redirected that letter to Dallas. Do we know who, if indeed anybody, rented that address at that time? It sure wasn't Oswald, as the second link shows Oswald moved out of that address on the 23 September, yet Oswald didn't make out the application till the 27 September! http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...p;relPageId=845 http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/garner_j.htm Edited July 19, 2009 by Denis Pointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Fong Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Yea, and how come all the Castro/Cuban Baiters like Gus Russo and Joe Califano, et al., don't use this as part of their arsenal? It's very briefly mentioned on p. 325 of Brothers in Arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 Thank you, Dennis, this is helpful, yet still puzzling. Has anyone seen this visa? How was Oswald notified that it was available? By letter to the Paynes' address? Yea, and how come all the Castro/Cuban Baiters like Gus Russo and Joe Califano, et al., don't use this as part of their arsenal? BK I agree; this is really curious. Russo does mention it in Brother-In-Arms in the same vague terms. What is going on here? If it exists, why is there no definition? NEWSPAPER (WASHINGTON STAR) ARTICLE: CUBA WITHHELD OSWALD VISA http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...amp;relPageId=2 Thanks for the link. Of course Cuba was trying to distance itself from LHO after the assassination. Is it possible that the visa was granted and then hushed up because it was so inflammatory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Knight Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 As the son of a deceased postal worker, the question comes to my mind: Did Oswald leave a forwarding address with the New Orleans PO? If so, to where was his mail forwarded? That might answer a question or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 As the son of a deceased postal worker, the question comes to my mind: Did Oswald leave a forwarding address with the New Orleans PO? If so, to where was his mail forwarded?That might answer a question or two. Very good question. He might have left the Paynes' address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted July 20, 2009 Author Share Posted July 20, 2009 Interesting thread from aaj about LHO having Cuban contacts: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassi...5b43981f15a359# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Fokes Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 (edited) Interesting thread from aaj about LHO having Cuban contacts:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.assassi...5b43981f15a359# Sylvia Duran gave Oswald her phone number so he could give her a ring to check if his Cuban visa had arrived. She told the WC that he never called. Wonder why? He did write the the Soviet Embassy in November and request notification "of our Soviet entrance visa's as soon as they come." http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hsca..._Vol8_0181b.htm (excellent spelling in this document) It is interesting how Priscilla McMillan describes Oswald's attitude after his return from Mexico City: Lee speaking to Marina in the bedroom: <quote on> Then he started right in: "Ah, they're such terrible bureaucrats that nothing came of it after all." ... He was especially vociferous about the Cubans -- "the same kind of bureaucrats as in Russia. No point going there. ... Marina was so delighted that she could scarcely believe her ears. Indeed, Lee's disenchantment with Castro and Cuba was complete. He never again talked about "Uncle Fidel," nor sang the song "Viva Fidel," as he used to do, nor used the alias "Hidell." <quote off> Marina and Lee, p. 471 If this was his attitude, perhaps it is no wonder he didn't call Duran to check up on his Cuban visa, eh? Then again, if he slept with Duran, he was not likely to call her from home! He surely hadn't lost his enthusiasm for the Soviet entrance visas as indicated by his letter to the Soviet Embassy in Washington. But, according to Priscilla, Fidel was out of favour with Lee post-Mexico. Now about that handcuffed fist ....... Regards, Peter Fokes, Toronto Edited July 28, 2009 by Peter Fokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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