Col. James Sabow suicide or Murder?--JFK Lone Nut or Government?

[David Andrews]

Good luck to Tim King on a Sabow movie deal. This year's Best Picture winner won (and was nominated) precisely because it glorifies war.

A "Horrors of War" story is not quite the same as an "Anti-war" story. (Robert Altman proved long ago with M*A*S*H that you can do the latter while hardly approaching the former. And the mockingbirds are all smarter today...)

Not to hijack - just throwing that in, apropos.

Edited March 17, 2010 by David Andrews

[Bernice Moore]

CRACK THE CIA...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1j1tkNuvLs

BUTT MOUNTAIN...

http://thetruthmovement.net/darpa/buttmountain.html

Semper Fidelis

http://www.beachnet.com/~hoffman/Sabow.html

B

http://mediafilter.org/MFF/DEA.35.html

Edited March 17, 2010 by Bernice Moore

[Bernice Moore]

http://www.militarycorruption.com/sabow.htm

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/january...bow_usmc_ro.php

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Bernice; One of the first main stream media coverage of the Col Sabow murder, was the first Connie Jung, "EYE TO EYE" TV premier of which I was interviewed.., (can't remember the date but it was shortly after President Clinton was in office and his brother was also on the same program; "Roger Dodger, Clinton") There was another broadcast soon after, or before; 57th Ave, but not sure if Sabow was covered on that program or what it was about... I think it was about Contra Gun Running and secret airbases in Costa Rica. Its been awhile.

additional background reading if interested:

<a href="http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/03/03/fo...-marine-murder/" target="_blank">http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/03/03/fo...-marine-murder/</a>

http://www.ocweekly.com/2006-09-14/news/cocaine-airways

http://www.phoenixarchives.com/express/1991/0591/13-06.pdf

TOSH..

THE SHOW WAS JULY 17TH 1993; http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,307174,00.html

B

[Bernice Moore]

OTHER CASUALTIES IN THE DEATH OF COL.SABOW..b

Other Casualties of the Sabow Affair

The following additional individuals connected to the Sabow affair have met

with strange misfortunes. Evidently, they knew too much.

Randy Robinson, the MP who witnessed evidence tampering at the death scene,

was

arrested two months after the murder, and charged with rape. The charge was

then changed to the lesser one of adultery, for which he has served a

six-month

sentence. Captain Verducci, who acted in Robinson's defense, felt that the

whole affair was bizarre, because the alleged victims did not file a complaint

and refused to testify in court.

Archibald Scott, a highly decorated colonel who heard Colonel Sabow exclaim to

Underwood that "Quitters never win and winners never quit," was accused of

impersonating an officer. Scott took the case to court, and the decision has

been reversed in his favor.

Captain Leslie Williams worked for Colonel Sabow and thought highly of him.

She

openly protested derogatory remarks against him. Despite a highly rated

performance and recommendations for promotion by Colonel Sabow, Williams was

"passed over" by the military and had to "get out."

Provost Marshall Goodrow and deputy, Forquer, were the first on the scene when

Sabow died. Both were given new assignments in the summer of 1991. One was

sent

to Okinawa and the other to Twenty-Nine Palms. They were "short-termed."

Jack Chisom, the co-owner of T&G Aviation, who supplied C-130 and DC-7

operations in the Persian Gulf, was found dead in the Arizona desert as the

result of a hit-and-run accident.

"Kevin," a marine who retired in the summer of 1994, was at the home of some

friends when ®MDBR¯Eye-to-Eye With Connie Chung®MDNM¯ appeared on television.

The program contained a segment on the death of Colonel Sabow and included a

reference to large quantities of drugs being delivered to military bases, and

an interview with a pilot who was involved in these flights. The group of

people watching the program were astounded. "Kevin" assured them that

everything they saw was true. He himself had been ordered to load vast

quantities of drugs onto airplanes with the idea that drugs would be used for

sting operations. He was not supposed to discuss the matter with anyone.

Later,

David Sabow learned of him and tried to reach "Kevin" for an interview. Five

days later, a secret source told him "Kevin's" place of work and his unlisted

phone number, but "Kevin" was dead. He was found hanging from the rafters of

his parents' barn.

Tom Wade was a computer specialist who accessed confidential records for the

Inspector General during his bogus investigation in January 1991. He found

that

the MWR files had been purged, including contracts with proprietary airlines,

which are suspected of being involved in illegal C-130 acquisitions and

illicit

drug traffic. Wade's brutal death remains a mystery. He was shot in the head

early on Christmas Day, 1994, as he was returning from Midnight Mass. As

Wade's

colleague at El Toro, computer installation chief Felix Segovia, explains,

Wade

was a single parent living in an apartment complex. "He had a small daughter.

He was going home Christmas Eve from services. He was on his way home to pick

up some gifts to take back to the church...to give out to the kids, and he was

accosted by a couple of individuals in the parking lot of his complex, and

shot

in the back of the head, execution-style. Nothing was taken from his car. His

daughter was left in the car crying. And no one saw anything. And until 6 in

the morning when finally someone heard his daughter crying, it was never

reported to the police."

Sergeant Felix Segovia is awaiting court-martial. He was a close friend of Tom

Wade's, and had filed a "wholesale theft of computer equipment" report after

having found that hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of computers,

hardware, and software were missing from the El Toro base.

Colonel Jerry Agenbroad was found hanged in the BOQ in El Toro, on Feb. 24,

1994, five days after a 60 Minutes segment on illegal acquisitions and use of

C-130s. He was in charge of MWR and at one time had been the head of the Air

Museum at El Toro.

-----

Aloha, He'Ping,

Om, Shalom, Salaam.

Em Hotep, Peace Be,

Omnia Bona Bonis,

All My Relations.

Adieu, Adios, Aloha.

Amen.

Roads End

Kris

http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv....m/msg13668.html

Edited March 17, 2010 by Bernice Moore

[William Plumlee]

OTHER CASUALTIES IN THE DEATH OF COL.SABOW..b

Other Casualties of the Sabow Affair

The following additional individuals connected to the Sabow affair have met

with strange misfortunes. Evidently, they knew too much.

Randy Robinson, the MP who witnessed evidence tampering at the death scene,

was

arrested two months after the murder, and charged with rape. The charge was

then changed to the lesser one of adultery, for which he has served a

six-month

sentence. Captain Verducci, who acted in Robinson's defense, felt that the

whole affair was bizarre, because the alleged victims did not file a complaint

and refused to testify in court.

Archibald Scott, a highly decorated colonel who heard Colonel Sabow exclaim to

Underwood that "Quitters never win and winners never quit," was accused of

impersonating an officer. Scott took the case to court, and the decision has

been reversed in his favor.

Captain Leslie Williams worked for Colonel Sabow and thought highly of him.

She

openly protested derogatory remarks against him. Despite a highly rated

performance and recommendations for promotion by Colonel Sabow, Williams was

"passed over" by the military and had to "get out."

Provost Marshall Goodrow and deputy, Forquer, were the first on the scene when

Sabow died. Both were given new assignments in the summer of 1991. One was

sent

to Okinawa and the other to Twenty-Nine Palms. They were "short-termed."

Jack Chisom, the co-owner of T&G Aviation, who supplied C-130 and DC-7

operations in the Persian Gulf, was found dead in the Arizona desert as the

result of a hit-and-run accident.

"Kevin," a marine who retired in the summer of 1994, was at the home of some

friends when ®MDBR¯Eye-to-Eye With Connie Chung®MDNM¯ appeared on television.

The program contained a segment on the death of Colonel Sabow and included a

reference to large quantities of drugs being delivered to military bases, and

an interview with a pilot who was involved in these flights. The group of

people watching the program were astounded. "Kevin" assured them that

everything they saw was true. He himself had been ordered to load vast

quantities of drugs onto airplanes with the idea that drugs would be used for

sting operations. He was not supposed to discuss the matter with anyone.

Later,

David Sabow learned of him and tried to reach "Kevin" for an interview. Five

days later, a secret source told him "Kevin's" place of work and his unlisted

phone number, but "Kevin" was dead. He was found hanging from the rafters of

his parents' barn.

Tom Wade was a computer specialist who accessed confidential records for the

Inspector General during his bogus investigation in January 1991. He found

that

the MWR files had been purged, including contracts with proprietary airlines,

which are suspected of being involved in illegal C-130 acquisitions and

illicit

drug traffic. Wade's brutal death remains a mystery. He was shot in the head

early on Christmas Day, 1994, as he was returning from Midnight Mass. As

Wade's

colleague at El Toro, computer installation chief Felix Segovia, explains,

Wade

was a single parent living in an apartment complex. "He had a small daughter.

He was going home Christmas Eve from services. He was on his way home to pick

up some gifts to take back to the church...to give out to the kids, and he was

accosted by a couple of individuals in the parking lot of his complex, and

shot

in the back of the head, execution-style. Nothing was taken from his car. His

daughter was left in the car crying. And no one saw anything. And until 6 in

the morning when finally someone heard his daughter crying, it was never

reported to the police."

Sergeant Felix Segovia is awaiting court-martial. He was a close friend of Tom

Wade's, and had filed a "wholesale theft of computer equipment" report after

having found that hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of computers,

hardware, and software were missing from the El Toro base.

Colonel Jerry Agenbroad was found hanged in the BOQ in El Toro, on Feb. 24,

1994, five days after a 60 Minutes segment on illegal acquisitions and use of

C-130s. He was in charge of MWR and at one time had been the head of the Air

Museum at El Toro.

-----

Aloha, He'Ping,

Om, Shalom, Salaam.

Em Hotep, Peace Be,

Omnia Bona Bonis,

All My Relations.

Adieu, Adios, Aloha.

Amen.

Roads End

Kris

http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv....m/msg13668.html

Thanks Bernice. You are a fine researcher and a hard worker: Thanks for bringing this forward:

Do you see anything in the Sabow case that is similar to the JFK assassination? Is the M.O. as to strange deaths similar? Is this still going on today? Why am I still alive? Why has all this information on Sabow been kept secret and can only be found in disjointed and in 'out of the way places? Questions after questions, which leads to more questions... much like JFK research. Right?

How many on this Forum has even read completely the links you have posted?

[William Plumlee]

CRACK THE CIA...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1j1tkNuvLs

BUTT MOUNTAIN...

http://thetruthmovement.net/darpa/buttmountain.html

Semper Fidelis

http://www.beachnet.com/~hoffman/Sabow.html

B

http://mediafilter.org/MFF/DEA.35.html

Celle is now in Federal prison in New Mexico. He was in my view-- as well as others, set up by the powers that be because of his talking about his DEA investigation and what he uncovered in Central America in reference to guns and drugs. His story was buried by the mainstream media and his credibility destroyed. He has lost his pension, his home and the IRS is on him, and he is financially broke. The United States Government political special interest boys at work. They have done a fine job and will be awarded handsomely. Who says the United States does not have political prisoners in lockdown?

[Bernice Moore]

OTHER CASUALTIES IN THE DEATH OF COL.SABOW..b

Other Casualties of the Sabow Affair

The following additional individuals connected to the Sabow affair have met

with strange misfortunes. Evidently, they knew too much.

Randy Robinson, the MP who witnessed evidence tampering at the death scene,

was

arrested two months after the murder, and charged with rape. The charge was

then changed to the lesser one of adultery, for which he has served a

six-month

sentence. Captain Verducci, who acted in Robinson's defense, felt that the

whole affair was bizarre, because the alleged victims did not file a complaint

and refused to testify in court.

Archibald Scott, a highly decorated colonel who heard Colonel Sabow exclaim to

Underwood that "Quitters never win and winners never quit," was accused of

impersonating an officer. Scott took the case to court, and the decision has

been reversed in his favor.

Captain Leslie Williams worked for Colonel Sabow and thought highly of him.

She

openly protested derogatory remarks against him. Despite a highly rated

performance and recommendations for promotion by Colonel Sabow, Williams was

"passed over" by the military and had to "get out."

Provost Marshall Goodrow and deputy, Forquer, were the first on the scene when

Sabow died. Both were given new assignments in the summer of 1991. One was

sent

to Okinawa and the other to Twenty-Nine Palms. They were "short-termed."

Jack Chisom, the co-owner of T&G Aviation, who supplied C-130 and DC-7

operations in the Persian Gulf, was found dead in the Arizona desert as the

result of a hit-and-run accident.

"Kevin," a marine who retired in the summer of 1994, was at the home of some

friends when ®MDBR¯Eye-to-Eye With Connie Chung®MDNM¯ appeared on television.

The program contained a segment on the death of Colonel Sabow and included a

reference to large quantities of drugs being delivered to military bases, and

an interview with a pilot who was involved in these flights. The group of

people watching the program were astounded. "Kevin" assured them that

everything they saw was true. He himself had been ordered to load vast

quantities of drugs onto airplanes with the idea that drugs would be used for

sting operations. He was not supposed to discuss the matter with anyone.

Later,

David Sabow learned of him and tried to reach "Kevin" for an interview. Five

days later, a secret source told him "Kevin's" place of work and his unlisted

phone number, but "Kevin" was dead. He was found hanging from the rafters of

his parents' barn.

Tom Wade was a computer specialist who accessed confidential records for the

Inspector General during his bogus investigation in January 1991. He found

that

the MWR files had been purged, including contracts with proprietary airlines,

which are suspected of being involved in illegal C-130 acquisitions and

illicit

drug traffic. Wade's brutal death remains a mystery. He was shot in the head

early on Christmas Day, 1994, as he was returning from Midnight Mass. As

Wade's

colleague at El Toro, computer installation chief Felix Segovia, explains,

Wade

was a single parent living in an apartment complex. "He had a small daughter.

He was going home Christmas Eve from services. He was on his way home to pick

up some gifts to take back to the church...to give out to the kids, and he was

accosted by a couple of individuals in the parking lot of his complex, and

shot

in the back of the head, execution-style. Nothing was taken from his car. His

daughter was left in the car crying. And no one saw anything. And until 6 in

the morning when finally someone heard his daughter crying, it was never

reported to the police."

Sergeant Felix Segovia is awaiting court-martial. He was a close friend of Tom

Wade's, and had filed a "wholesale theft of computer equipment" report after

having found that hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of computers,

hardware, and software were missing from the El Toro base.

Colonel Jerry Agenbroad was found hanged in the BOQ in El Toro, on Feb. 24,

1994, five days after a 60 Minutes segment on illegal acquisitions and use of

C-130s. He was in charge of MWR and at one time had been the head of the Air

Museum at El Toro.

-----

Aloha, He'Ping,

Om, Shalom, Salaam.

Em Hotep, Peace Be,

Omnia Bona Bonis,

All My Relations.

Adieu, Adios, Aloha.

Amen.

Roads End

Kris

http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv....m/msg13668.html

Thanks Bernice. You are a fine researcher and a hard worker: Thanks for bringing this forward:

Do you see anything in the Sabow case that is similar to the JFK assassination? Is the M.O. as to strange deaths similar? Is this still going on today? Why am I still alive? Why has all this information on Sabow been kept secret and can only be found in disjointed and in 'out of the way places? Questions after questions, which leads to more questions... much like JFK research. Right?

How many on this Forum has even read completely the links you have posted?

thank you TOSH, I ADD WHAT I CAN WHEN AND IF I CAN, AND ALSO SOMETIMES HIT IT LUCKY, I ALSO DO ENJOY THE RESEARCH, WHEN ABLE, AND YES THE SIMILARITY OF THE STRANGE DEATHS FOLLOWING JFKS WAS VERY OBVIOUS...THE INFO IS SCATTERED SO AS I BELIEVE AS YOU MENTIONED, IT WOULD TAKE MUCH AND MANY EFFORTS TO DIG AND OBTAIN IT ALL, COULD BE, BUT I THINK ALSO THERE IS ENOUGH OUT THERE FOR A BOOK, IT WOULD APPEAR...WHEN ONE READS ALL THE INFORMATIVE LINKS THAT HAVE BEEN POSTED THE INFO CERTAINLY DOES BEGIN TO COME TOGETHER TO CREATE MURDER AND ADD AN S TO THAT..IMO...STAY WELL....WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE, PERHAPS BECAUSE THERE IS A VERY LARGE BRIGHT LIGHT ON YOU,AND GETTING BRIGHTER, AS THERE WAS WITH PENN...IT PROTECTS ..CONTINUE TO GVE US YOUR VALUABLE INFORMATION AND HISTORY LESSONS...THANKS STAY WELL....B PLEASE EXCUSE THE CAPS..

Edited March 18, 2010 by Bernice Moore