What did other JFK motocades look like?

David Josephs · May 13, 2010

Looking for a little help with this one

Doing some searching online (while reading Survivor's Guilt) and

cannot seem to find an image or video of a motorcade in the "correct" formation around JFK.

Chapter 6 describes flatbed trucks in front of JFK for photographers, how he's supposed to arrive LAST to a location, after the VP, Senators, etc... have already arrived and are either waiting for him or have continued on to the destination... and the last minute changes the reversed ALL the protection from the front and minimized protection from the rear.

The Pres walks in last, arrives last... standard protocol. Just not in Dallas that day.

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v4n1.html

those I have found show JFK in the lead car or close to it and have very little protection around him.

http://www.historylink.org/db_images/req098.JPG

http://www.irishtimes.com/150/images/articles/kennedy.jpg

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/Hawaii2.jpg

http://www.thewildgeese.com/blogs/uploaded..._dub-711335.jpg

http://www.jfkresearch.com/JFK_Tampa/Motorcade_tpa.jpg

If someone could post one just to prove the point about the change in protection from what was "normal"

I'd appreciate it...

thanks

DJ

Steve Kober · May 14, 2010

Looking for a little help with this one
Doing some searching online (while reading Survivor's Guilt) and

cannot seem to find an image or video of a motorcade in the "correct" formation around JFK.

Chapter 6 describes flatbed trucks in front of JFK for photographers, how he's supposed to arrive LAST to a location, after the VP, Senators, etc... have already arrived and are either waiting for him or have continued on to the destination... and the last minute changes the reversed ALL the protection from the front and minimized protection from the rear.

The Pres walks in last, arrives last... standard protocol. Just not in Dallas that day.

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v4n1.html

those I have found show JFK in the lead car or close to it and have very little protection around him.

http://www.historylink.org/db_images/req098.JPG

http://www.irishtimes.com/150/images/articles/kennedy.jpg

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/Hawaii2.jpg

http://www.thewildgeese.com/blogs/uploaded..._dub-711335.jpg

http://www.jfkresearch.com/JFK_Tampa/Motorcade_tpa.jpg

If someone could post one just to prove the point about the change in protection from what was "normal"

I'd appreciate it...

thanks

DJ

Not to change the subject tread, but does anyone else think that a LHO look alike is hanging onto a light standard pole in the background of the JFK Tampa Motorcade photo?

Bernice Moore · May 14, 2010

Not to change the subject tread, but does anyone else think that a LHO look alike is hanging onto a light standard pole in the background of the JFK Tampa Motorcade photo?

STEVE I AM THINKING YOU MAY MEAN THIS....B

Bernice Moore · May 14, 2010

DAVID KEEPING IN MIND, THE PHOTOS FROM THE FRONT WERE TAKEN BY PHOTOGS IN THE FRONT....HERE ARE SOME, NOTE THE SS POSITIONS, BUT ALSO THE NUMBERS OF THE MOTORCYCLE ESCORTS, AND FORMATIONS .IN PARTICULAR IMO...B HERE ARE JUST A FEWS... :blink:THEY ARE...GALWAY IRELAND, BERLIN GERMANY, NEW YORK, BUFFALO, EL PASO...

Edited May 14, 2010 by Bernice Moore

Bernice Moore · May 14, 2010

HERE IS ONE FROM VINCE PALAMARA SHOWING THE SS STANCE IN OTHER MOTORCADES BUT NOT AS IN DALLAS..AND A CLIP FROM SS GIBBONS HIS RECALL...ABOUT SS ON THE BACK OF THE LIMO STANDING GUARD...B

Edited May 14, 2010 by Bernice Moore

David Josephs · May 14, 2010

Thanks Bernice...

In each instance, or most, the photo flatbed must have been in place... at the front.

'cept in Dallas. changed that morning

{sigh}

thanks to VMP as well... an amazing read and opened my eyes to so much.

Peter Fokes · May 15, 2010

Looking for a little help with this one
Doing some searching online (while reading Survivor's Guilt) and

cannot seem to find an image or video of a motorcade in the "correct" formation around JFK.

Chapter 6 describes flatbed trucks in front of JFK for photographers, how he's supposed to arrive LAST to a location, after the VP, Senators, etc... have already arrived and are either waiting for him or have continued on to the destination... and the last minute changes the reversed ALL the protection from the front and minimized protection from the rear.

The Pres walks in last, arrives last... standard protocol. Just not in Dallas that day.

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v4n1.html

those I have found show JFK in the lead car or close to it and have very little protection around him.

http://www.historylink.org/db_images/req098.JPG

http://www.irishtimes.com/150/images/articles/kennedy.jpg

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/Hawaii2.jpg

http://www.thewildgeese.com/blogs/uploaded..._dub-711335.jpg

http://www.jfkresearch.com/JFK_Tampa/Motorcade_tpa.jpg

If someone could post one just to prove the point about the change in protection from what was "normal"

I'd appreciate it...

thanks

DJ

In Mexico City ...

Tough to see through the blizzard of paper, but motorcyclists appear to be on either side of the limo (as well as in front).

SS agents also beside car.

http://www.life.com/image/50388643

Peter Fokes

Edited May 15, 2010 by Peter Fokes

David Josephs · May 16, 2010

In Mexico City ...

Tough to see through the blizzard of paper, but motorcyclists appear to be on either side of the limo (as well as in front).

SS agents also beside car.

http://www.life.com/image/50388643

Peter Fokes

Thanks Peter..

yet once again..

Look at that incredibly tall building with LOTS of windows in the background

while photographers are IN FRONT of the limo on foot... Can't possibly be going 40+ mph

Looks like the limo finished turning right in front of that building and is moving fairly slowly..

Was it simply a sign of the times... slow moving "parade" type motorcades, with JFK out in the open..

Thanks for the photo yet as I am seeing... it seems that SS protection protocol was not strictily adhered to in many instances with JFK

yet the biggest one has to be the photo truck moved away from the front (and Burkley so far away) - most of the shots in this thread had to have been taken by those on that truck.

DJ

Bernice Moore · May 17, 2010

Thanks Bernice...
In each instance, or most, the photo flatbed must have been in place... at the front.

'cept in Dallas. changed that morning

{sigh}

thanks to VMP as well... an amazing read and opened my eyes to so much.

your welcome david, i did used to have one photo showing the flatbed in a motorcade but of course i cannot find it now, another lost, take care b..

Bernice Moore · May 17, 2010

Thanks Bernice...
In each instance, or most, the photo flatbed must have been in place... at the front.

'cept in Dallas. changed that morning

{sigh}

thanks to VMP as well... an amazing read and opened my eyes to so much.

your welcome david, i did used to have one photo showing the flatbed in a motorcade but of course i cannot find it now, another lost, take care b..

david here is a youtube showing the motorcade in mexico and latin america..well into it i do see a truck some distance in front, not a flatbed a large truck....b

a second video just taken in mexico.they figured 2 million people saw him...

Edited May 17, 2010 by Bernice Moore

Bernice Moore · May 17, 2010

Thanks Bernice...
In each instance, or most, the photo flatbed must have been in place... at the front.

'cept in Dallas. changed that morning

{sigh}

thanks to VMP as well... an amazing read and opened my eyes to so much.

your welcome david, i did used to have one photo showing the flatbed in a motorcade but of course i cannot find it now, another lost, take care b..

david here is a youtube showing the motorcade in mexico and latin america..well into it i do see a truck some distance in front, not a flatbed a large truck....b

a second video just taken in mexico.they figured 2 million people saw him...

David Josephs · May 17, 2010

Excellent Bernice.. and thanks once again..

Seems I've read that the President, in a motorcade, is supposed to arrive last... according to SS protocol

all other "lower" dignitaries pass first - then the President, who would want to even bother with the people

behind the President, that's why they go first, to honor him.

I prefer to site a source for that, and since I do not have one handy I will put forth that this is only my understanding.

VMP states in Ch 6 that JFK was moved from the 7th position to the 5th

Other vehicle shuffling:

“All those in the motorcade proceeded to get into their cars. There was the usual amount of minor confusion—people hustling around to locate their car number …”

—— Presidential Aide Larry O’Brien80

President Kennedy’s limousine had the #7 taped to its outside windshield, on the lower left corner, yet it was in the fifth position, only the fourth vehicle in the motorcade.81

Footnote 81: Fred Newcomb and Perry Adams, Murder From Within, unpublished manuscript, pp. 29, 37–39; High Treason, p. 135. The Secret Service learned a lot about proper motorcade vehicle order after the violent mob attack on Vice President Nixon’s car in Caracas, Venezuela in 1958; as depicted on p. 36 of Know Your Government: The U.S. Secret Service by Gregory Matusky and John Hayes (New York: Chelsea House Pub-lishers, 1988), the number ‘1’ was taped prominently on the windshield, making the car vulnerable to attack without proper pilot and lead cars (and motorcycles) clearing the way. See also Anthony Summers, The Arrogance of Power: The Secret World of Richard Nixon (Penguin USA, 2001), photo page (Caracas motorcade), as well as the 1995 Discovery Channel documentary Inside The Secret Service regarding the 1958 Caracas trip: it is mentioned that the Secret Service learned a lot from this trip

Is it my imagination or in most of these photos, JFK is always the lead car - the other 3 vehicles before him in Dallas... the lead motocycles, the lead car, then the limo... 3rd, I believe. I must be missing something.

DJ

Bernice Moore · May 17, 2010

HI DAVID, PERHAPS BECAUSE IN THE MOTORCADES THE PHOTO CONCENTRATION IS ON HIM, NOT THOSE PREVIOUS, IT GIVES THE IMPRESSION HIS WAS ALWAYS FIRST, LIKE IN THIS PHOTO BELOW ABOUT AT THE CORNER OF MAIN AND HOUSTON, AND THE FIRST IN FORT WORTH, 2ND PHOTO, BTW THAT IS ONE OF THE PHOTOS RECOVERED THAT WERE FOUND THROWN AWAY IN THE BOX THAT WAS FOUND... BUT ACCORDING TO, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY THE SS HE WAS TO BE AT THE END OF MOTORCADES MAINLY FOR THE REASON YOU STATE, THEY DID NOT WANT THE PEOPLE SEEING THE PRES THEN LEAVING, IGNORING ALL THE REST OF THE DIGNITARIES COMING AFTER, HERE IS CURRY'S LIST FOR SUCH THAT DAY, I HAVE A MORE COMPLETE BUT NEED TO FIND THE RASCAl, AND THE PHOTOS AND MAPS SHOWING SUCH, SO I WILL BE BACK, ABOUT THE BEST MOST COMPLETE INFO ON ALL IS WITHIN PALAMARA'S STUDIES, WHOM YOU HAVE REFERENCED, BUT THE MOTORCADE ARRANGEMENT WAS ALL SHUFFLED AT LOVE BEFORE IT BEGAN ACCORDING TO THE RESEARCH...B...

Edited May 17, 2010 by Bernice Moore

Bernice Moore · May 17, 2010

http://vincepalamara.blogspot.com/2009/04/...s-8-secret.html

DAVE YOU MAY FIND MORE INFORMATION OF THE SHUFFLE OF THE POSITIONS OF THE MOTORCADE AT LOVE WITHIN THIS PART OF VINCE'S WORK...B

Edited May 17, 2010 by Bernice Moore

Bernice Moore · May 17, 2010

DAVID I HAVE NOT FOUND THE PHOTO MAPS AS YET BUT CAME UPON THIS BY VINCE,DONE LONG AGO NOW, SO IT IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THE LINK ANY LONGER SO THIS IS A COPY AND PASTE...QUITE A FEW REFERENCES TO CHANGES AND THE MOTORCADE AT LOVE...B

NOTES ON THE WARREN COMMISSION’S 26 VOLUMES

By Vince Palamara

Special emphasis on Secret Service/ medical evidence issues

Vol. 1-15: Testimony

Vol. 16-26: Exhibits

VOL. 1:

Robert Oswald---

1 H 334 SA Robert Jamison

1 H 398-399 SA’s Kunkel, Howard

1 H 405 SA Leon Gopadze: Secret Service interpreter

1 H 410 SA Gary Seals

1 H 447 “IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO FEEL THAT LEE HARVEY OSWALD

ACTED ENTIRELY ON HIS OWN WITHOUT ANY ASSISTANCE WHATSOEVER.”****

1 H 461 Inspector Thomas Kelley and SA Howard with Robert when he saw

Lee

John Martin---

1 H 473 Howard, Kunkel, Gopadze

Vol. 2:

Testimonies: SA William Greer, Roy Kellerman, Clint Hill, & Rufus

Youngblood

Vol. 3:

DPD Marion Baker---

3 H 244 last-minute motorcycle change made at Love Field***

Vol. 4:

The Connally’s+ Secret Service officials’ Robert Bouck, Robert Carswell,

& Winston Lawson;

DPD Chief Jesse Curry---

4 H 169 not consulted about motorcade route***

Vol. 5:

Secret Service officials’ Thomas Kelley, Robert Carswell, James Rowley

[re: Bolden: 5 H 454-455, 457-458; a lot re: drinking incident; 5 H

469-470: agents on limo/ lack thereof; “No President will tell the

Secret Service what they can and cannot do”; 5 H 474: HR 4158], & Tres.

Sec. C. Douglas Dillon [5 H 581, 585];

Jackie Kennedy

[ASAIC of WHD Floyd Boring---2 H 90, 105, 107, 111, 136-137; 4 H 342; 5

H 67]

[Deputy Chief Paul J. Paterni---5 H 67; 7 H 354, 403; 13 H 65]

Vol. 6:

PARKLAND HOSPITAL DOCTORS/ NURSES/ PERSONELL---*********

Drs. Charles Carrico, Malcolm Perry, Kemp Clark, Robert McClelland,

Charles Baxter, Marion Jenkins, Ronald Jones, Donald Curtis, Faoud

Bashour, Gene Akin, Paul Peters, Adolph Giesecke, Jackie Hunt, Kenneth

Salyer, Martin White, Robert Shaw, Charles Gregory, Thomas Shires,

Richard Dulany; Nurses Jeanette Standridge, Jane Wester, Henrietta Ross,

Diana Bowron, Margaret Henchcliffe, Doris Nelson; R.J. Jimison, Darrel

Tomlinson, J.C. Price

DPD Earle Brown---

6 H 233***

DMN Tom Dillard---

6 H 163***

DPD B.J. Martin---

6 H 293***

DPD D.V. Harkness---

6 H 312***

Vol. 7:

Inc. Seymour Weitzman [7 H 107], Harry Holmes,

Forrest Sorrels [7 H 333 re: FDR 1936; 7 H 354 spoke to Paterni re:

LHO]***

Thomas Kelley [7 H 403 instructed thru Paterni to go to Dallas]****

Sen. Yarborough [7 H 440 re: SS lack of performance]

Ken O’Donnell, Dave Powers, Clifton Carter, John Joe Howlett

DPD Joe M. Smith---

7 H 535

DPD Capt. Perdue Lawrence---

7 H 580-581 re: motorcycles

Vol. 8:

LHO’s associates from his youth, relations, Marine Corps associates

8 H 14, 31 re: David Ferrie

Vol. 9:

More, inc. the DeMohrenschildts [ 9 H 179 friendship with Jackie/

Auchincloss’; 9 H 199, 273; 9 H 235 re: CIA’s J. Walter Moore; 9 H 255,

275 admired JFK; 9 H 325, 329]***

& Ruth Paine

SA Howlett re: curtain rods/ measurements***

Vol. 10:

New Orleans and people who had contact with “LHO”

Inc. Carlos Bringuier, Francis Martello

Vol. 11:

Inc. John & Edward Pic, Kerry Thornley, Ruth Paine, Howard Brennan,

Marina Oswald, Dean Andrews [11 H 330-331 LHO couldn’t have done it +

Clay Bertrand], Sylvia Odio, Michael Paine, James Lehrer, Gen. Edwin

Walker, etc.

Vol. 12:

Inc. Charles Bathcelor, Jesse Curry, Bill Decker

12 H 22, 23---route/ 2 days before, overpasses, watch crowd, dispatching

policeman: “I don’t think anyone was stationed below Houston Street”***

Vol. 13:

Inc. Forrest Sorrels [13 H 56: 63 years old!]

Karen Carlin (a.k.a. “Little Lynn”)---

13 H 214, 219, 352

[see also 15 H 658-659, 660-661]

Curtis Laverne Crawford

Vol. 14:

A lot re: Ruby

Crawford (continued) inc. SA Max Phillips

George Senator, Jack Ruby

Vol. 15:

More of the same +Index

Vol. 16:

16 H 721 recorded interview of Marguerite Oswald by J.M. Howard, SS,

Dallas

“Harvey Lee Oswald”

16 H 749 Robert Oswald

16 H 943 limo pictures

16 H 945 chrome dent

16 H 946-947 windshield

16 H 948 rear seat

16 H 950-951 V.P. SS Detail Shift Report

SAIC Stuart Knight, ASAIC Rufus Youngblood, ATSAIC Thomas Lem Johns, SA

Warren Woody Taylor, SA Jerry Kivett, SA Micheal Shannon, SA Jerry

Bechtle [now on the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve], SA

Donald Bendickson, SA James Goodenough; mentions SA Paul Rundle

Vol. 17:

17 H 1-48: medical reports---

17 H 1 JFK’s watch given to O.P. Wright***

Dr. Kemp Clark typed summary***

Dr. Charles Carrico---“small penetrating wound of ent. Neck”***

Dr. Malcolm Perry---“A large wound of the right posterior cranium”***

Dr. Charles Baxter---“Occipital bones were missing”***

Dr. Kemp Clark---“Right occipital”***

Dr. Robert McClelland---“Gunshot wound of the left temple”***

Dr. Foaud Bashour

Dr. Marion Jenkins---“Occipital”; “Cerebellum protruded”***

Dr. Robert Shaw

Dr. Charles Gregory

17 H 354 photo of limo on Main Street

17 H 479 DPD Channel 2 transcript re: SS man killed; 17 H 485: hold both

cars to print them (!)****

17 H 497 DPD reenactment backyard photos (Brown)

17 H 501 “2 of the 3 spent hulls…”***

17 H 512: 2 hulls,1 unfired bullet***

17 H 529-592: SS PRS activities in relation to the Texas trip---

17 H 566: source for William Walthers’ teletype?****

17 H 568: SAIC Behn’s beatnik?

17 H 574: re: El Paso 6/5/63 bomb threat***

17 H 593-600: Lawson’s Preliminary Survey Report [dated 11/19/63]

17 H 601-617: Lawson’s Final Survey Report [dated 11/30/63]

17 H 618-626: Lawson’s report re: 11/4 to 11/21/63 [dated 12/3/63]

17 H 628-629: Lawson’s report re: assassination (re: overpass)

17 H 630-634: Lawson’s report re: 11/22-11/22/63 [dated 12/1/63]

(17 H 631: Bennett had to be reminded)

17 H 862-863 Hoover re: HR 4158

17 H 867 drawings of limo and follow-up car

17 H 868-869 photos of (rear of) limo

17 H 870-895: 12/5/63 SS survey photo album

Vol. 18:

18 H 1-80: Zapruder frames

18 H 81-83: Nix frames

18 H 84-85: Muchmore frames

18 H 96: Specter!

18 H 665-702: SS drinking incident/ related

(18 H 692: confirmation that Gen. Godfrey McHugh came from Fort

Worth)***

18 H 703-714: Rowley to Rankin re: SS/ Dallas

(18 H 707-708: Kellerman’s statement and denial)****

18 H 715-721: events leading up to release of route

(18 H 716: 5-6 possible routes)

(18 H 718)

18 H 722-802: SS reports (also in CD 3/ LBJ Library copy) [most also in

“Mortal Error”]

18 H 803-809: 4/22/64 Rowley to Rankin re: agents on limo

18 H 810-815: Rowlet to G. d’Andelot Belin report on assassination

(18 H 814 Grant, ATSAIC Rundle)

18 H 816-825: Rowley to Rankin 4/22/64 re: SS protective activities

subsequent to the Dallas trip

(18 H 818-819: JFK/ LBJ together)

(18 H 821: 11/63 studies/ budget)

18 H 826-828: Rowley to Rankin re: organizational growth of SS through

the years

18 H 887---“General C.A. Willoughby”***

18 H 898-936: SS planning document

(18 H 933-934: G. d’Andelot Belin “Acting Secretary of the treasury”)

Vol. 19:

19 H 42: Beverly Oliver???

19 H 117-148: DPD personnel assignments Nov. 1963

(19 H 148: “R.A. White”)***

19 H 167-170: Nurse Diana Bowron newsclips***

19 H 457-466: Sheriff Bill Decker’s report

19 H 467-543: Sheriff Dept. witness statements---

Betzner, Hathaway, Hill, Holland, Lawrence, Mercer, Miller, Millican,

Moorman, Gayle Newman, Jean Newman, William Newman, Owens, Price, the

Rowlands, Skelton, Weatherford, Boone (2), Bowers, Faulkner, AD.

McCurley, L.C. Smith, Walthers, Craig, Lewis, Mooney, Oxford, Walthers

(2), McCoy, Elkins, W.W. Mabra, Todd

19 H 605---LHO’s v.d. “In the line of duty, not due to own misconduct”

[see “Crossfire”]

19 H 618-622 Jack Dougherty, TSBD

19 H 647 Robert Edwards

19 H 650 Ronald Fischer

19 H 656, 717 LHO “13-inch” head photo

19 H 690 Under. Sec. Of Navy Paul “Red” Fay reviewed and approved no

change on LHO’s undesirable discharge!******

19 H 711 Connally to LHO

19 H 713 LHO to Connally

Vol. 20:

20 H 36 sketch of Connally wound trajectory

(Ruby-related stuff)

20 H 161 Stemmons sign

20 H 163 Holland (repeat)

20 H 252-253 Dr. Jenkins’ report (“repeat”)

(Priscilla Johnson stuff re: LHO/ Russia)

20 H 313 FBI agent Barrett present at Texas Theatre

20 H 318:2 references to 3 shells

20 H 333 Dr. Ronald Jones report---entrance wound neck***

20 H 338-402: Seth Kantor notepad---

20 H 351 smell gunpowder (Yarborough)

20 H 353 “intered [sic] right temple”***

20 H 355 Mrs. Connally: JFK hit by 1rst shot

20 H 356 Gonzalez: clothing

20 H 366 LHO “I’m just a patsy”

20 H 381 threat on LHO

20 H 391 “Will Fritz’s men called off nite before by SS. Had planned to

ride car w/ machine guns in car behind Pres.”***

20 H 405 Kilduff “Pierre’s second assistant”

20 H 406-407 Felton West, Mac Kilduff at Cellar (but not Kantor)

20 H 410 quote in full re: dead agent***

20 H 411 Gonzalez-Connally’s clothing

20 H 440-446: SS Inspector Kelley’s interviews of LHO

(20 H 443 LHO encounter with “SS agent”)

(20 H 445 SA Roger Warner w/ LHO in Parkland operating room)

20 H 453; 463-465 Capt. Glen King-SS had primary responsibility

20 H 489 ***Capt. Lawrence Exhibit motorcycle distribution***

20 H 510 Walker backyard photo-license plate in photo

20 H 639 5/5/45 Ekdahl w/ Marguerite

20 H 784 Revilo P. Oliver: the first alterationist!***

Vol. 21:

21 H 150-269 PRICE EXHIBITS (MEDICAL)---***

21 H 150-152 Report Dr. Clark ro Dr. Burkley 11/23/63 summary “occipital

region”; “large wound in the right occipito-parietal region”;

“cerebellar tissue”***

21 H 153 JFK’s watch given to O.P. Wright

21 H 168 Mrs. Elizabeth Wright (O.P. Wright’s wife)

21 H 196 telephone message from Joan Crawford to Jackie while at

Parkland

21 H 198 Elizabeth Wright: 10 page report dated 12/11/63---“Mr. (O.P.)

Wright had somewhere down the line asked me if I could ascertain the

path of the bullet-or bullets-determine the path, and find out where the

instrument of injury actually was”********

21 H 216 Nurse Pat Hutton “Mr. Kennedy was bleeding profusely from a

wound in the back of his head”; “A doctor asked me to place a pressure

dressing on the head wound. This was of no use, however, because of the

massive opening on the back of the head”***

21 H 217 Shirley Randall, E.R. Aide re: washing limo***

21 H 226 Joe L. Richards, Orderly re: bucket of water***

21 H 229-232 O.P. Wright report---NOTHING ABOUT CE399!!!!!!!!!***

(21 H 230 JFK’s watch: Bowron to Wright to Warren [Warner])

21 H 259 tunnel exit***

21 H 260-261 “alternate route” for the Johnsons***

21 H 265 11/23/63 second medical press conference (Perry again); Dr.

Charles Crenshaw***

21 H 282 “Lee Harry Oswald”

21 H 284, 286 “Lee Harry Oswald”

21 H 388-397 transcript of radio log 11/22/63 Channel 2

21 H 398-400 transcript of channel 1 11/22/63

21 H 404 “Washington Post article 6/9/62 re: Oswald and Webster

21 H 546-547 Sorrels report 11/30/63 (covers 11/4-11/21/63)

(21 H 547 Decker offers full support 11/21/63…?)***

21 H 548 Sorrels 11/28/63 (re: 11/22/63)

terrace; Curry: surround building?***

21 H 562-592 Stevenson Exhibit re: 11/13-11/24/63

(21 H 563 route to Main st., not finalized; 3 possible routes; “would

police any route that the Committee and the Secret Service selected”)***

(21 H 564 overpasses)

(21 H 565 Grant)

(21 H 570-571 motorcycyles, squad car)***

(21 H 572 Decker agreed to furnish approx. 15 men…?; 2 ambulances on

standby at Trade Mart)***

(21 H 578-579 Lt. Col. George Whitmeyer)

21 H 714 report of Walker photo showing license plate

21 H 765-773 (Phil) Willis Exhibit

Vol. 22:

22 H 5-8 LHO/ Tower letters

22 H 93-97 report by Dr. Burkley re:11/22

“The question was answered by her stating that she wanted the President

taken to Bethesda Naval Hospital. Arrangements were made on the gorund

for departure to Walter Reed Army Hospital [???] or Bethesda Naval

Hospital, as the case may be” [?]***; “…his appearance in the casket

gave no evidence of the injury he had received.”***; “The wallet and the

rest of the clothes had been taken into custody of the SS and was

obtained by Mr. O’Leary.”

22 H 115 SA John H. Grimes

22 H 155 SA Maurice Miller

[alots of stuff re: Ruby]

22 H 528 SS Guy H. Spaman, Clark, Darwin Horn

22 H 597 Curry to Rankin re: epileptic seizure incident (12:19-12:25

p.m.); officers drawn from their assignments ****

22 H 599 2 officers re: epileptic seizure***

22 H 600 officer Joe M. Smith re: epileptic+”I heard the shots and

thought they were coming from bushes of the overpass.”***

22 H 601 officers W.K. King & J.B. Allen re: epileptic***

22 H 604 officer J.C. White’s report re: train?!***

22 H 613 Rowley to Rankin re: Trade Mart decision 7/10/64---O’Donnell+

DTH 11/16/63 article: Main St. only***

22 H 614 DTH 11/19/63 route w/ turn (no map)***

22 H 615 DMN 11/19/63 route w/ turn (no map)***

22 H 616 DMN 11/20/63 Main St. only***

22 H 617 DMN 11/22/63 WC deleted map (no turn shown)!!!***

22 H 626 DMN 10/26/63 “greatest concentration of Dalas Police ever for

the protection of a high-ranking dignitary”***

22 H 627 DMN 11/8/63 Connally: luncheon cite uncertain because SS had

not cleared the matter***

22 H 630 DMN 11/21/63

22 H 632 Victoria Adams***

22 H 634 Danny Arce***

22 H 638 O.V. Campbell***

22 H 641 Mrs. Herman M. (Billy) Clay***

22 H 642 Mrs. Charles Thomas (Avery) Davis***

22 H 648 Dorothy Garner***

22 H 659 Dolores Kounas***

22 H 662 Billy Lovelady “… I ran toward the spot where President

Kennedy’s car had stopped.”***

22 H 676 Sandra Styles

22 H 683 Otis Williams ***

22 H 685 Steven Wilson---3 shots fired in less than 5 seconds: west end

of bldg or colonnade; “the shots really did not sound like they came

from above me”***

22 H 710-712 Palmer McBride***

Marina/ Ruth Paine interviews

22 H 832 “NY Herald Tribune” 11/23/63 Dr. Perry***

22 H 833 James L. Simmons---smoke***

22 H 834 Nolan Potter---smoke***

22 H 835 Thomas Murphy***

22 H 836 Clemon Johnson---smoke***

22 H 837 George Davis

22 H 838 Charles Brehm+Mary Moorman***

22 H 840 Jack Franzen***

22 H 842 the Newmans***

22 H 843 Jean Newman***

22 H 844 Pauline Sanders re: Campbell***

22 H 845 O.V. Campbell---slow down, a near stop***

22 H 846 Dolores kounas***

22 H 850-857 article on Ruth Paine July 1964 Redbook

Ruby stuff

22 H 916 Barry Deavenport---“Several years ago, he happened to be in the

Egyptian Lounge operated by the Campisi brothers and overheard one of

the brothers make a statement that he was financing Ruby, or words to

that effect.”***********[NOT IN SCHEIM, DAVIS, KANTOR, OR ANYWHERE ELSE

TO MY KNOWLEDGE!!!]

22 H 931-932 Shari Angel Weston

Vol. 23:

A lot on Ruby (21 H 1-382)

23 H 157-161 re: Robert McKeown (and Tommy Davis)

23 H 169 SAIC of SS Houston Office Lane Bertram re: Joe Bonds, former

business partner of Ruby’s

[23 H 206 “SA Joseph Backus”]

23 H 362-363 Ruby bet with Hunt on football games

23 H 383- re: Marina

23 H 392-394; 398-399; 402; 403-404; 405-409; 410; 418; 425-441; 442;

444-445;

23 H 453-458 translation Marguerite Oswald article---LHO CIA! ***

23 H 459-461 SS SA Elmer Moore to Sorrels

23 H 496-497 re: Marguerite 3/19/64 radio interview with Phil Donahue

23 H 514 SA’s Howlett and Gene Wofford to Sorrels

23 H 515-516 Sorrels, Patterson, Warner, Howlett, & Gene Wofford

23 H 529-625 LHO’s daily time sheets for Jan. 1rst-1/31/63

Jaggers-Chiles-Stover

quite a few times “Sam Bloom”+”Tracy Locke”+”Jack Wyatt”

23 H 646-647 Howlett to Sorrels re: job opportunities for LHO

23 H 726 Dean Andrews

23 H 781 SAIC McDermott, Boston

23 H 786, 793 Fred Korth

23 H 817 FBI report dictated 11/23/63 intervoew 11/22/63 woth Roger

Craig****

23 H 831 Nixon ***

23 H 941-943 articles re: Nixon***

Vol. 24:

24 H 23 reinterview of Roger Craig 11/25/63***

Gen. Walker

Ruby shooting LHO

24 H 121 Seth Kantor

24 H 200 Hugh Betzner-limo slowed; digging in dirt, etc.***

24 H 201 Lee Bowers

24 H 205 Marvin Chism

a lot of repeated reports: see Vol. 19

24 H 228 Seymour Weitzman---Mauser***

24 H 259 “Harvey Lee Oswald”

24 H 284 list of SS present at LHO interrogations

24 H 294 re: James Richard Worrell, Jr.---saw LHO run from the TSBD “in

a southerly direction”************

24 H 320 officers’ Sims and Boyd report---unidentiied SS agent and two

ATF agents (inc. Frank Ellsworth) present in TSBD when rifle was

found****

24 H 326 F.M. Turner’s Report (rode in pilot car)---“the Army Major”

[Whitmeyer] went back to Elm/ Houston a couple minutes after President

arrived at Parkland

24 H 327 Charles Brehm: “He did not see suspect, or know where shots

came from.”***

24 H 347 receipt-Hosty (to Fritz) received 11/27/63 “one 6.5 mm rifle

hull received at Texas School Book Depository, 411 Elm Street, Dallas,

Texas, on 11/22/63”

24 H 412 CE2011 Rowley, Johnsen: “could not identify” CE399; Wright,

Tomlinson: “could not positively identify” CE399***********

[24 H 442 “Gerald Springer”]

What did other JFK motocades look like?

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