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That was interesting post David, thank you

I hope Jim will come on and tell us his true feelings

I hope that Jim is not one of the Holocaust deniers

If he claims to be then I can not back him up any longer on any issue

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I admire David Lifton very much. However, the "anti semtiic" canard is being used here, as it too often is, to attack someone who is criticizing Israel. Jim Fetzer doesn't need me to defend him, but his speculation is entirely plausible, imho.

Also, the attacks on those who he is supposedly loosely affiliated with remind me very much of the old McCarthyite "fellow traveler" label. Jim Fetzer has a healthy curiosity into many of the most important political issues we face today. He is not perfect by any means (and I have criticized him here, and in private messages to him), but I think he seeks the truth and is a good man. He has my support.

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It is difficult to even converse with people who are not familiar with the latest information on 911.

Forget the latest info, im not even familiar with the old info :lol:

I dont think 9-11 was an inside job at all, just like Pearl Harbor was not an inside job, and just like the Apollo moon landings, I know that in 1969 Armstrong and Aldrin landed on the moon

So the bottom line is that because of my obsession with history I know alot about these subjects, but I have never looked into them as being conspiracys because I believe that we landed on the moon and that 9-11 was a terrorist attack and that Japan snuck up on us at Pearl Harbor

I am a CT on only two subjects of which I know for sure that both were a conspiracy

1. Kennedy assassination

2. Lincoln assassination

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Guest James H. Fetzer

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW A MAN'S CHARACTER, JUST LEND HIM MONEY.

--Jim Fetzer

All,

During my recent visit to LA, I stayed with a close friend and

confided in him my problems with David Lifton relative to two

loans I extended to him, one for $300 in 2005, the other for

$1,000 in 2007. I have had extensive correspondence with him

about this, including sending him copies of both sides of the

relevant checks, which, of course, bear his signature and, in

the memorandum space, clearly state "loan". I have received a

formal acceptance of receipt, but he has not responded to me.

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My reason for writing is that I learned that Lifton also tried

to borrow money from my friend, suggesting that this may be a

standard practice for him. Because of my high regard for him

as a student of JFK, I was very accommodating in the past, but

I have reached the point where I no longer have confidence in

his integrity, especially after I have provided him with copies

of the relevant checks. He needed the money then; I need it now.

At the very least, I expected him to acknowledge his indebtedness.

I have been in consultation with a California attorney, who has

advised me that, while this would ordinarily be a case for small

claims court, there may be a pattern here for the more serious

charge of false inducement, where a person seeks money with the

promise of repayment but actually has no intention to do so. If

any of you have been solicited by David for "loans", please let

me know. He has also apprised me that sharing my experience with

you as I am doing now is perfectly lawful and appropriate because

it is true. I am not going to allow Lifton to stiff me for $1,300.

Jim

P.S. The proper term is "fraudulent inducement". And not to put

too fine a point on it, but if I actually were anti-Semitic, then

what in the world would I be doing lending money to David Lifton?

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Thanks for all the info Jack

Im going to read and watch tomorrow

If you think of any more info post a link or just post it in this thread and I will read it

Have a good night Jack

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I admire David Lifton very much. However, the "anti semtiic" canard is being used here, as it too often is, to attack someone who is criticizing Israel. Jim Fetzer doesn't need me to defend him, but his speculation is entirely plausible, imho.

Also, the attacks on those who he is supposedly loosely affiliated with remind me very much of the old McCarthyite "fellow traveler" label. Jim Fetzer has a healthy curiosity into many of the most important political issues we face today. He is not perfect by any means (and I have criticized him here, and in private messages to him), but I think he seeks the truth and is a good man. He has my support.

If you think the charge that Fetzer is "anti semtiic" is a "canard is being used here...to attack someone who is criticizing Israel" then you obviously haven't read the chapters of the Naziesque book which David and I found so offensive and which Fetzer has repeatedlly and strongly endorsed and read on air twice (including a rebroadcast). Until you do so you should refrain from making arguments based on ignorance.

Perhaps I was wrong to tie Fetzer with Bollyn but the former has continued to cite the latter,including on this thread even after it was pointed out to the professor just how offensive the views of the "journalist"were. However Fetzer is not " supposedly loosely affiliated with" Kevin Barrett the two have appeared on each others radio programs, are members of each others organisations, appeared in various events together and co-hosted a radio show together dubbing themselves "The Dynamic Duo". So I guess by your logic Batman "is supposedly loosely affiliated with" Robin. AFAIK the only tie between him and Atzmon is that they appeared in a event in London together but on another forum Fetzer specificlly cited his appearence with the Israeli as evidence he was not anti-Semitic. So it was relevant to point out that the musician is a selfdescribed "self-hating" "ex-Jew" who has made numerous comments justifying such remarks.

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Original Content at http://www.opednews.com/articles/Is-9-11-Research-Anti-Sem-by-Jim-Fetzer-090615-95.html

June 17, 2009

Is 9/11 Research "Anti-Semitic"?

Of course it's not (at least not inherently) but as pointed out previously the problem is not Fetzer`s criticism of Israeli or even Zionists but his endorsement of claims Jews were responsible for: the US's entry into WWI, prolonging the war for 2 years, the undermining of Germany's morale, war production and defeat, the harsh conditions of the Versailles Treaty, the rise of Hitler, under mining the German economy in the 30's and Pearl Harbor and the US's entry into WWII.

Jim like I stated before I didnt believe you were anti-semitic

 

I just wanted to see you say that you were not

Dean you coped out, you (like Don) seem not to have read the chapters that so offended David and me but rather seem content to take Fetzer's word for it that he is innocent of all charges. But if you cant muster up the courage to read garbage Fetzer read on air and strongly endorsed ask yourself why he continues to dodge the bullet regarding it.

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Guest James H. Fetzer

http://www.truthjihad.blogspot.com/

Thursday, July 15, 2010

Gilad Atzmon: Give History a Chance!

Here is Gilad's brilliant talk from last night's Debunking the War on Terror conference. Meeting Gilad was one of the highlights of this amazing week in London, which I will be writing about very soon.

GIVE HISTORY A CHANCE BY GILAD ATZMON

A talk given at the"Debunking the War on Terror" Symposium on July 14th, Friends House, Euston Station, London UJ

The War on Terror Within

1 The more pain we inflict on others the more we become familiar with evil, aggression and brutality.

1.1 The more cruel we are towards others, the more devastated we are by the possibility that the subjects of our brutality may also be as nasty as we happen to be.

1.2 According to Freud this is what projection is all about.

1.2.1 Otto Weininger refines it, ‘we hate in others, that which we don’t like in ourselves’ he says.

1.3 As it happens, the dynamic of projection is amplified once the subject of our terror is hopeless and defenseless.

1.3.1 The reason is obvious. The more hopeless the subject of our terror is, the more we are inclined to face our relentless viciousness first hand.

2 Israeli treatment of the Palestinians is a devastating example of the above. The more hopeless and defenseless the Palestinians are, the more vicious the Israeli becomes.

2.1 And yet, the more vicious the Israeli is, the more he or she is horrified by ‘terror’.

3 In reality, the Israelis are actually horrified by their own cruelty which they project onto others.

4 The recent cold-blooded murder of 11 peace activists in the high seas by Israeli Navy commandos was nothing but a shocking exposure of that lethal dynamic. The more ethically transparent, innocent and harmless the humanitarian mission to Gaza is, the more lethal the Israeli becomes.

The English Speaking Empire

5. In fact, Israel is just a micro-cosmos of this kind of brutal vicious circle.

6. The so-called ‘War Against Terror’ is in fact a war against the terror within.

6.1 We attack, rob and plunder innocent people and innocent nations. Yet, the more pain we inflict on them the more terrorised we become by our own endless brutality.

Jesus Christ Super Star

7. Jesus taught us how to dismantle our vindictive projection. ‘Turn the other cheek’, he preached, in opposition to the infamous Old Testament’s ‘eye for an eye’.

7.1 Turning the other cheek, is commonly realised as a means to counter an aggressor. However, it maybe the only possible measure to dismantle the ‘terror within’, that same aggression that brews inside us as we become vindictive.

7.1.1 By turning the other cheek we may manage to defuse the violence within us. We replace it with acceptance, we disarm ourselves. We give peace a chance.

From Promised Land to Promised Planet

8. Zionism presented itself initially as a Jewish nationalist patriotic movement aimed at becoming both a homecoming and a dwelling.

8.1 Zionism vowed initially to collect Jews from around the world and to bring them to Palestine. It was inspired by the idea of a national home in a ‘promised land.’

8.2 This is definitely not the case anymore. Zionism took a different route. It actually expects the Diaspora Jews to mount pressure on Western governments and media. Wolfowitz was very productive in shaping America’s interests and desires, as was David Aaronovitch in championing ‘moral interventionist’ wars in The Times, David Miliband fulfilled his duty fighting to amend British Universal Jurisdiction within the British cabinet to allow Israeli war criminals to visit this Kingdom. Alan Dershowitz managed to transform the American academic world into a Yeshiva. Haim Saban, the Israeli American tycoon, bankrolls the Democratic party when he isn’t buying American media outlets or funding a new think tank.

8.3 The Israelis realised a long time ago that it is far cheaper to buy the entire Western political system than buy a single tank.

8.4 Zionism has become a global movement with global interests.

8.4.1 It drifted from the discourse of ‘promised land’ into the politics of ‘promised planet’

8.5 Consequently, British and American soldiers are dying in growing numbers fighting Zionist wars.

8.6 More concerning is the fact that British and American people have been made complicit in a genocide driven by Zionists.

8.7 However, the most troubling issue here is the fact that Brits and Americans are driven by an Old Testament vindictive ideology, namely an ‘eye for an eye’. One would have expected that considering the Christian foundation of Britain and the USA these countries would be inspired by compassionate Christian ideas such as ‘love your neighbour’ and ‘turn the other cheek.’

The Open Society and Its Enemies

9 Historians will have to find out at what point in time British and American political power and media gave up on compassion and peace.

9.1 Yet, in order to do so, historians must be free to think and to say what they think.

9.1.1 We must, therefore, restore the respected notion of history and the notion of historical research. We have to make sure that every chapter in our past is academically accessible. We also must reinstate freedom of thought, speech and expression. These crucial and elementary human rights have been jeopardised in the name of political correctness and legislation.

9.2 History is founded on the belief that a deeper understanding of the past may help us to shape our future.

9.3 Such an idea is transparent enough to support the realisation that history can lead to peace and reconciliation. We can simply try to amend the horror of the past by adopting a peaceful thinking.

9.3.1 To turn the other cheek is to some extent a product of proper historical realisation. It suggests that violence leads to more violence, yet, endurance and self control bring peace about.

10 Devastatingly enough, Britain and America implement the opposite lesson. Rather than aim towards peace and reconciliation, we are actually committing more and more crimes in the name of the past. Like the Israelis who kill in the name of the Shoa, we kill in the name of ‘democracy’, ‘moral interventionism’ and even ‘coca-cola’. As if this is not enough, when we run out of reasons, like the Israelis we kill in the name of Jewish suffering.

11 It doesn’t take a genius to gather that the proponent of these precepts in our midsts are devoted Zionists. It doesn’t take a genius to gather that Wolfowitz’s Doctrine lead to the war in Iraq. It is literally transparent that the ‘moral interventionism’ that is advocated by David Miliband, Aaronovitch and Nick Cohen is a pretext for violence. It is not exactly a secret that when Britain was taken into illegal Iraq war, Lord Levy, a Zionist by admission, was Labour's No 1 fund raiser.

Give History a Chance

12 Our vision and re-vision of the past can shape our future, and yet, our vision of the future can also shape our past.

12.1 I will try to enlighten this complicated idea through a simple yet devastating hypothetical and imaginary lethal war scenario:

We, for instance, can envisage a horrific situation created by an imaginary hypothetical Israeli nuclear attack on Iran in which millions of innocent people die every day. I guess that amongst the few survivors of such a horrific reality, some may be so bold to insist that ‘the history of Jewish suffering might make sense after all.’

Again the above scenario is a product of the imagination, it by no means justifies Jewish suffering, and yet, such a vision of a ‘possible’ horrific development should ideally stop Zionist enthusiasts from advocating a war against Iran or anyone else. However, the above fictional scenario should help us to grasp how a vision of the future can also amend or transform our comprehension of the past.

12.2 At the moment our history books are sealed and cemented. We cannot engage in a real study of our most relevant past and we are therefore denied the right to consider its meaning.

12.3 Consequently, we have failed to encompass the real ethical meaning of world war II and the holocaust in particular. Similarly, we are silenced when it comes to the events that led towards the 2nd Iraq War. We are supposed to wait for the current Iraq Inquiry with the almost absurd hope that rabid Zionist Martin Gilbert will be kind enough to show us the truth.

13. With history being squashed it is hardly surprising that the same people who flattened Hamburg, Pforzheim, Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki continued to do the same in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq.

14. Similarly, the same lobbies that pushed Britain and America to a deadly confrontation with the Mulsim world are now pushing us to flatten Iran.

15. To save the world and to bring peace about, we must learn our past and we must be free to so. Revisionism is the means towards a better future.

Give History a Chance.

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That was interesting post David, thank you

I hope Jim will come on and tell us his true feelings

I hope that Jim is not one of the Holocaust deniers

If he claims to be then I can not back him up any longer on any issue

Dean, my friend, you appear to be a nice guy, but I'm afraid you're a bit, well, naive.

I note the operative phrase of your post (used twice) is "I hope."

Yes, hope is something we should all have. But excessive hope can have its frustrating downside.

Whatever Fetzer's "true feelings," and whatever that term means (as applied to this situation), remember the old adage: Actions speak louder than words.

In a future post, I will set forth the words and actions of many of Fetzer's co-developers at the Rediscover 9/11 site. As will be manifestly obvious, they are mostly anti-Semitic Jew haters, and holocaust deniers. And of course Fetzer knows who these people are, and what they represent: They are his close associates, at that site; and his own webmaster (Lola Heavy) is the webmistress of that site.

Let me tell you a story about "true feelings" and how appearances can be deceiving. I am harking back 45 years, and it is almost comical, but here goes.

In 1965, when I had been in Los Angeles for about 3 years, and working on the U.S. space program (yes, Project Apollo, to go to the moon, a goal I believe we did indeed achieve, and more than once) and at a time when I was attending UCLA, I was waiting for the main elevator on the lobby level of the main UCLA library, when the doors opened, and one of the most attractive blonds I have ever seen exited. (Play music from Twilight Zone. . ) I froze, promptly did a 180, thought of some reason to start a conversation, was successful, and within a week had made plans for a "first date"-- to attend a concert of the L A Philharmonic.

This beauty was pursuing a graduate degree--and so I assumed that she was intelligent as she was attractive. Why not? Was she not enrolled in the Ph.D program of a major university? And don't we assume certain basics, when a person has academic credentials?

As I drove downtown on the Santa Monica Freeway towards the L.A. Music Center, she said (in a low voice that indicated she trusted me to provide accurate information--and remember, this was BEFORE I became well known as a JFK researcher), "David, I must ask you something." . . PAUSE. .and then she posed her question, one which was apparently very much on her mind; and, as befits such a query, she asked in a most serious vein: "David, is it true that Jews have horns?"

This lady was pursuing a Ph.D. in Communications Science at UCLA. She came from a small town in Ohio, and this is what--apparently--she had been taught. She was not joking, and in asking me about the condition of my own forehead (as well as asking me to provide confidential information about the foreheads of other Jews I have known) she might as well have been asking me a private medical question (or maybe she had spent too much time examining MOSES, by Michelangelo). I concealed my amazement, and answered that no, that was not so for me, and not for anyone else I knew.(I probably turned to my right, so she could get a good look at my forehead).

That was our last date, but she went on to win a Ph.D in communications, and I suppose, is still teaching somewhere in the U.S.

What were her "true feelings"? I have no idea, and after that incident, I didn't care.

Let me provide what is possibly a more reliable indicator of Fetzer's "true feelings," and again--this goes back to "the company he keeps," and the old saying, "Birds of a feather. . "

As you may know, Fetzer was recently part of a conference in London, in which two of the main persons were himself and his former cohort Kevin Barrett, another who believes that 9/11 was an "inside job," and an Israeli/Jewish neo con operation. Just two weeks ago, one of the contributors on an Internet discussion group pertaining to terrorism, an 9/11, wrote the following, a few days before this London conference where Fetzer and Barrett were to appear. The poster--another holocaust denier, who views the holocaust as "the holohoax"--was urging his associate to attend the conference, take some pictures, and post them on the net. Then, addressing the matter of Jim Fetzer's attendance, he expressed his displeasure with Fetzer, who was clearly too "liberal" for him, and in these terms:

QUOTE:

Fetzer pisses me off on his whole, [and] most probably pretended, ignorance of the holohoax issue, big time, but [Kevin] Barrett [another who, as just noted, also believes Israel was complicit in 9/11] is cool. Both Fetzer and Barrett are very hip . . . and by now pretty much consider 9-11 to be an Israeli operation." UNQUOTE

So this is the buzz, the real "insider talk" when it comes to Fetzer, and gives you a sense of the kind of folks that come to hear Jim Fetzer, Ph.D, Distinguished McKnight Professor, etc etc. come and "educate" them on these issues. Then commenting on a third speaker, this same poster then said that "I don't know about Atzmon but as of right now he seems like a cool Jew. . ."

". . .a cool Jew. . " A neat phrase. I never heard my rabbi use it, but oh well. . .In any event, rest assured he was not talking about jazz musician Benny Goodman.

So this is the world Fetzer now inhabits; or, to revert back to my satire, the duck pond in which he swims; or, shall I say, paddles around.

Anyway, you are of course free to ask Fetzer to exit the duck pond for a bit, dry off, and tell you of his "true feelings". You are certainly free to approach him, and exhort him, saying, in effect, "Jim, say it ain't so!" and "Jim, you're not one of them. . . . are you?"

Let me give you this "heads up": For the record, Fetzer has been careful never to say he DIS-believes the holocaust; just that, like everything else he propounds, its an issue that people have the right to discuss and debate. In other words, like a patriot who wraps himself in the flag, Fetzer, when he exits the pond, wraps himself in a towel that reads "intellectual freedom." That's his mantra. His license to drive at 150 MPH on the superhighway that is the Internet.

Is it possible that 2 + 2 = 6? Well, probably not, but shouldn't we have the right to debate it?

Fetzer likes to blast Thompson for being excessively agnostic--and maybe he is. But here's an interesting question. If you had to make a choice, with whom would you rather hitch a ride, if you needed to get downtown--someone who drives at 35, when the speed limit is 50? Or someone who goes at 150 MPH, and drives a car with no brakes?

Welcome to the world of Jim Fetzer. Just about everything is "debatable" and he just loves the attention that comes his way by defending the implausible, and often the absurd.

DSL

7/22/10; 2:45 AM PDT

Los Angeles, CA

I say "I hope" David because if Jim came right out and said that the Holocoust never happened, or yes Dean im anti-semitic

Then I would have said Jim I cant back you up on anything at all

The hope part is because I hope that at this day in age there is no reason what so ever to be anti-semitic, and I never saw Jim as having those kind of thoughts

However (trust me I am not naive) im sure that there are millions of anti-semitic people in the world, but im sure only a small part of those people would admit publicly to it

Thats why I asked Jim if it was true, I believe him

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Dean you coped out, you (like Don) seem not to have read the chapters that so offended David and me but rather seem content to take Fetzer's word for it that he is innocent of all charges. But if you cant muster up the courage to read garbage Fetzer read on air and strongly endorsed ask yourself why he continues to dodge the bullet regarding it.

Len

If Jim is the big time Jew hating anti-semite who thinks that the Jews are behind 9-11, WWII, Stock Market Crash of 29, and on and on then wouldnt he come out and say, yes I am an anti-semite and the Jews are behind 9-11 and everything else, I also back up my website and my fellow anti-semitic friends

You see Len I ask first, then look into it later, I am going to listen to and read all the links and posts today and find out for myself the things you and David are talking about

If you think of any other website or any links please post them so I can look into it today

Thanks Len

Dean

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Guest James H. Fetzer

Up until about a year and a half ago, the word "Zionism" was not even in my vocabulary. I realized that I

was incapable of understanding important events in the world if I did not gain clarity about its meaning.

So I featured three experts on Zionism on "The Real Deal"--Barry Chamish, Stephen Lendman, and Elias

Davidsson--and, after I discovered STRANGER THAN FICTION and read about eight chapters on the air,

I was able to inerview its author, Albert Pastore, Ph.D. (a pseudonym). David Lifton and Len Colby are

misleading you about my attitudes because--for reasons of their own--they want to smear me. As I

have observed in passing, if I really were anti-Semitic, then why would I lend money to David Lifton?

My radio archive is at http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com, where you can access the following programs:

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 30, 2010

Mark Glenn

USS Liberty

MONDAY, JUNE 28, 2010

Mark Lane / Carl Hermann

JFK assassination / 9/11, CFR, BP

MONDAY, JUNE 7, 2010

Stephen Lendman

Israel vs freedom flotilla

FRIDAY, MAY 28, 2010

Albert D Pastore

Israel & 9/11

MONDAY, MAY 10, 2010

Nick Kollerstrom

Israel and 9/11

MONDAY, APRIL 26, 2010

STRANGER THAN FICTION

Chapters of an important book

FRIDAY, APRIL 9, 2010

Jesse Ventura / Edward Haslam

AMERICAN CONSPIRACIES / DR. MARY'S MONKEY

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 31, 2010

Doug Horne

INSIDE THE ARRB Vol. V

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 17, 2010

David Mantik, M.D., Ph.D.

Review of INSIDE THE ARRB, Vol. IV

WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 27, 2010

Stephen Lendman

Outsourcing War / Disaster Capitalism

WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 13, 2010

Douglas Horne

INSIDE THE ARRB (2009)

WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 30, 2009

Jim DiEugenio

More on Vincent Bugliosi

WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 16, 2009

Jim DiEugenio

Jim Garrison and Vincent Bugliosi on JFK

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 8, 2009

Jim Marrs

What happened to JFK?

FRIDAY, DECEMBER 4, 2009

Nicholas Kollerstrom

9/11, 7/7, and more

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 30, 2009

Zan Overall / Total Info

9/11 and Israel / visit total411.info

see http://www.total411.info/2009/10/real-deal-w-jim-fetzer-notes.html

MONDAY, OCTOBER 19, 2009

Elias Davidsson

9/11 Research / UN Petition

MONDAY, OCTOBER 5, 2009

John Lear

No planes crashed on 9/11

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 2009

Adrian Salbuchi

"False Flag" Attacks in Argentina

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 7, 2009

Mike Delaney

"Hidden Links" of Israeli complicity?

FRIDAY, AUGUST 7, 2009

Kevin Barrett

QUESTIONING THE WAR ON TERROR

FRIDAY, JULY 10, 2009

Elias Davidsson

Zionism and anti-Semitism

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 24, 2009

7/7 Ripple Effect

Exposing the "false flag" London attack

FRIDAY, JUNE 12, 2009

Rich DellaRosa

The JFK autopsy timeline

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 15, 2009

James Douglass

JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE

MONDAY, APRIL 13, 2009

Elias Davidsson

Recent 9/11 research

MONDAY, APRIL 6, 2009

Rick Russo

Medical techs at Bethesda Hospital plus

MONDAY, MARCH 30, 2009

Barry Chamish

On Israel, Zionism, and related issues

MONDAY, MARCH 16, 2009

Dennis David

The Bethesda Naval Hospital autopsy of JFK

FRIDAY, MARCH 13, 2009

Stephen Lendman

The Palestinian/Israeli problem

FRIDAY, MARCH 6, 2009

James Richards

Familiar faces in Dealey Plaza

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 27, 2009

Allan Eaglesham

The assassination of JFK

MONDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 2009

Kevin Barrett

The latest from an 9/11 activist

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 13, 2009

Major William Fox

False flag attacks

SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 2009

Jim Fetzer on 9/11 and the NeoCon Agenda

Featuring a speech at "The Freedom Rally" at the U.S. Capitol,

15 April 2008

WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 28, 2009

Rich DellaRosa

The JFK and Lincoln conspiracies

Dean you coped out, you (like Don) seem not to have read the chapters that so offended David and me but rather seem content to take Fetzer's word for it that he is innocent of all charges. But if you cant muster up the courage to read garbage Fetzer read on air and strongly endorsed ask yourself why he continues to dodge the bullet regarding it.

Len

If Jim is the big time Jew hating anti-semite who thinks that the Jews are behind 9-11, WWII, Stock Market Crash of 29, and on and on then wouldnt he come out and say, yes I am an anti-semite and the Jews are behind 9-11 and everything else, I also back up my website and my fellow anti-semitic friends

You see Len I ask first, then look into it later, I am going to listen to and read all the links and posts today and find out for myself the things you and David are talking about

If you think of any other website or any links please post them so I can look into it today

Thanks Len

Dean

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Up until about a year and a half ago, the word "Zionism" was not even in my vocabulary. I realized that I

was incapable of understanding important events in the world if I did not gain clarity about its meaning.

So I featured three experts on Zionism on "The Real Deal"--Barry Chamish, Stephen Lendman, and Elias

Davidsson--and, after I discovered STRANGER THAN FICTION and read about eight chapters on the air,

I was able to inerview its author, Albert Pastore, Ph.D. (a pseudonym). David Lifton and Len Colby are

misleading you about my attitudes because--for reasons of their own--they want to smear me. As I

have observed in passing, if I really were anti-Semitic, then why would I lend money to David Lifton?

My radio archive is at http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com, where you can access the following programs:

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 30, 2010

Mark Glenn

USS Liberty

MONDAY, JUNE 28, 2010

Mark Lane / Carl Hermann

JFK assassination / 9/11, CFR, BP

MONDAY, JUNE 7, 2010

Stephen Lendman

Israel vs freedom flotilla

FRIDAY, MAY 28, 2010

Albert D Pastore

Israel & 9/11

MONDAY, MAY 10, 2010

Nick Kollerstrom

Israel and 9/11

MONDAY, APRIL 26, 2010

STRANGER THAN FICTION

Chapters of an important book

FRIDAY, APRIL 9, 2010

Jesse Ventura / Edward Haslam

AMERICAN CONSPIRACIES / DR. MARY'S MONKEY

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 31, 2010

Doug Horne

INSIDE THE ARRB Vol. V

WEDNESDAY, MARCH 17, 2010

David Mantik, M.D., Ph.D.

Review of INSIDE THE ARRB, Vol. IV

WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 27, 2010

Stephen Lendman

Outsourcing War / Disaster Capitalism

WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 13, 2010

Douglas Horne

INSIDE THE ARRB (2009)

WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 30, 2009

Jim DiEugenio

More on Vincent Bugliosi

WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 16, 2009

Jim DiEugenio

Jim Garrison and Vincent Bugliosi on JFK

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 8, 2009

Jim Marrs

What happened to JFK?

FRIDAY, DECEMBER 4, 2009

Nicholas Kollerstrom

9/11, 7/7, and more

FRIDAY, OCTOBER 30, 2009

Zan Overall / Total Info

9/11 and Israel / visit total411.info

see http://www.total411.info/2009/10/real-deal-w-jim-fetzer-notes.html

MONDAY, OCTOBER 19, 2009

Elias Davidsson

9/11 Research / UN Petition

MONDAY, OCTOBER 5, 2009

John Lear

No planes crashed on 9/11

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 2009

Adrian Salbuchi

"False Flag" Attacks in Argentina

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 7, 2009

Mike Delaney

"Hidden Links" of Israeli complicity?

FRIDAY, AUGUST 7, 2009

Kevin Barrett

QUESTIONING THE WAR ON TERROR

FRIDAY, JULY 10, 2009

Elias Davidsson

Zionism and anti-Semitism

WEDNESDAY, JUNE 24, 2009

7/7 Ripple Effect

Exposing the "false flag" London attack

FRIDAY, JUNE 12, 2009

Rich DellaRosa

The JFK autopsy timeline

WEDNESDAY, APRIL 15, 2009

James Douglass

JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE

MONDAY, APRIL 13, 2009

Elias Davidsson

Recent 9/11 research

MONDAY, APRIL 6, 2009

Rick Russo

Medical techs at Bethesda Hospital plus

MONDAY, MARCH 30, 2009

Barry Chamish

On Israel, Zionism, and related issues

MONDAY, MARCH 16, 2009

Dennis David

The Bethesda Naval Hospital autopsy of JFK

FRIDAY, MARCH 13, 2009

Stephen Lendman

The Palestinian/Israeli problem

FRIDAY, MARCH 6, 2009

James Richards

Familiar faces in Dealey Plaza

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 27, 2009

Allan Eaglesham

The assassination of JFK

MONDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 2009

Kevin Barrett

The latest from an 9/11 activist

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 13, 2009

Major William Fox

False flag attacks

SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 2009

Jim Fetzer on 9/11 and the NeoCon Agenda

Featuring a speech at "The Freedom Rally" at the U.S. Capitol,

15 April 2008

WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 28, 2009

Rich DellaRosa

The JFK and Lincoln conspiracies

Dean you coped out, you (like Don) seem not to have read the chapters that so offended David and me but rather seem content to take Fetzer's word for it that he is innocent of all charges. But if you cant muster up the courage to read garbage Fetzer read on air and strongly endorsed ask yourself why he continues to dodge the bullet regarding it.

Len

If Jim is the big time Jew hating anti-semite who thinks that the Jews are behind 9-11, WWII, Stock Market Crash of 29, and on and on then wouldnt he come out and say, yes I am an anti-semite and the Jews are behind 9-11 and everything else, I also back up my website and my fellow anti-semitic friends

You see Len I ask first, then look into it later, I am going to listen to and read all the links and posts today and find out for myself the things you and David are talking about

If you think of any other website or any links please post them so I can look into it today

Thanks Len

Dean

Jim,

The so-called Zionist families are not a power on their own. They are deployed by the Monarchies of Europe, like the British monarchy. They were called "hofjuden" (court Jews). But they're cut outs or front men for these European oligarchical families who hate the United States and have always hated the United States.

Perhaps Colby is a little sensitive seeing as how he is an heir to the Oppenheimer family. His father Frank Colby migrated to the USA from Havana Cuba in 1951 and went to work as a chemist for Chaim Weizman's (sp?) Commercial Solvents ( IG Farben had been shut down by the Allies so maybe he was forced to find work in the US[just kidding]). Weizman helped broker the British Sykes-Picot agreement which created the state of Israel.

From their he went to RJ Reynolds/ British American Tobacco with the Borden Gray clan.(Yes, George Herbert Walker Bush's C. Borden Gray that is) His job as "Minister of Information" was to produce reams of "sophistry" against any and all claims that cigarettes were harmful to your health. As a chemist he also knew how to increase the addictive properties of cigarettes. He was a point man for many projects at RJR/ British American Tobacco.

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Perhaps Colby is a little sensitive seeing as how he is an heir to the Oppenheimer family.

Are you related to Robert Oppenheimer Len?

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Perhaps Colby is a little sensitive seeing as how he is an heir to the Oppenheimer family.

Last week it was discovered that someone who was impersonating him [presumtive] claimed to be a CIA agent paid to disrupt conspiracy research forums. Now, as it turns out, that ws false. Instead, he's getting "royalties" on nukes?

Go figure... :D

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