Don Roberdeau Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 Good Day.... Of 267 witnesses who have expressed or were asked the number of shots that they *remembered* hearing, 249 (93%) claimed to hear only 3 shots (or 3 closely spaced volleys of shots) or less. (A "shot" in 1963 could have been a non-mechanically-suppress-fired audible muzzle blast, or, a mechanically-suppress-fired audible muzzle blast; both of which would have also caused (and been closely followed by) an audible bullet bow shockwave if the bullet was traveling faster than the speed of sound) The majority of witnesses, from one end of the plaza to the other, said that the last two shots (or volleys of shots) that they *remembered* hearing were noticeably, and distinctly, much closer together, than the first two shots (or closely spaced volleys of shots). Of 207 witnesses who expressed or were asked from where the shots they *remembered* hearing came from (60 witnesses were never asked &/or never expressed an opinion): 34 witnesses could not tell (16%) 63 witnesses heard all the shots they *remembered* hearing come from the depository or the Houston/Elm intersection area of the depository (31%) 110 witnesses *remembered* hearing at least one shot that did not come from the depository or the Houston/Elm intersection area (53%) .: Therefore, of the 173 persons who had an opinion of the shots locations, 64% *remembered* hearing at least one shot that did not come from the depository or the Houston/Elm intersection area, while 36% heard all the shots that they *remembered* hearing come from the depository or the Houston/Elm intersection area of the depository. The following are from my personal detailed list of witnesses that I have spoken with over the decades, seen in documentaries, listened to on cassettes or radio, seen in photographic evidences, and read about. If you need help for a reference for a specific person, please ask which specific person(s) you need help for and I can provide it for you. The vast majority of witnesses who expressed an opinion or were asked from where the shots they *remembered* hearing came from are listed. (for some reason the file I quickly went to for the following list is missing a few of the 173 total witnesses comprising the two basic groups of witnesses who *remembered* hearing either at least one shot that did not come from the Houston/Elm intersection area, and the witnesses who heard all the shots that they *remembered* hearing come from the depository or the Houston/Elm intersection area of the depository. I will see if I can locate those few witnesses not on the following list from when I originally tabulated them) I welcome any and all referenced comments as I am steadily working towards freely making publicly available the details comprising my to-date personal list of 4631 persons related or possibly related before/during/after the assassination. ALLEN, JULIAN B. (Mrs. J. U.) ....COULD NOT TELL AULT, CECIL ....COULD NOT TELL BETZNER Jr., HUGH WILLIAM ....COULD NOT TELL BOND, WILMA IRENE ....COULD NOT TELL CLARK, ROBERT "Bob" ....COULD NOT TELL COLEY, JERRY LANE ....COULD NOT TELL COWSERT, EWELL "Davey" WILLIAM ....COULD NOT TELL CRAIG, ROGER DEAN ....COULD NOT TELL DENHAM, W. H. ....COULD NOT TELL DOLAN (or "Doland"), JOHN F. ....COULD NOT TELL HARKNESS, DAVID V. ....COULD NOT TELL HOOKER, JEANETTE E. ....COULD NOT TELL JONES, CARL EDWARD ....COULD NOT TELL LEWIS, CARLUS E. ....COULD NOT TELL MARTIN, BILLY JOE "B. J." ....COULD NOT TELL McINTYRE, WILLIAM TIMOTHY "Tim" ....COULD NOT TELL MOORE, T. E. ....COULD NOT TELL MOORMAN, MARY ANN ....COULD NOT TELL (heard a shot after she took her Zf-315.6 polaroid photo) MUCHMORE, MARIE ....COULD NOT TELL MURPHY, JOSEPH "Joe" E. ....COULD NOT TELL O'BRIEN, LAWRENCE "Larry" F. ....COULD NOT TELL ROBERTS, EMORY P. ....COULD NOT TELL ROWLAND, BARBARA WALKER ....COULD NOT TELL SKELTON, ROYCE GLENN ....COULD NOT TELL (heard 4 shots) STANTON, SARAH D. ....COULD NOT TELL STYLES, SANDRA ....COULD NOT TELL THOMPSON, CHARLES "Chuck" ....COULD NOT TELL THORNTON, RUTH (Mrs. U. L.) ....COULD NOT TELL WALTHER, CAROLYN ELIZABETH ....COULD NOT TELL (heard 4 shots) WITT, LOUIS STEVEN ....COULD NOT TELL EDWARDS, ROBERT EDWIN ....COULD NOT TELL (heard 4 shots) HOLMES, HARRY D. ....COULD NOT TELL ("firecrackers" & "from the crowd over there") LAWSON, WINSTON "Win" G. ....COULD NOT TELL-"over right shoulder" (at first shot he was just past picket fence corner & below picket fence) BURROUGHS Jr., HENRY DASHIELLE ….NO OPINION (remembered hearing 4 shots with pause between 1st and 2nd with last 3 bunched closely) ELERSON, SANDRA SUE (Mrs. RONALD G.) ….DID NOT HEAR ANY SHOTS WEST, TROY EUGENE ….DID NOT HEAR ANY SHOTS BURNS, DORIS FAY (Miss) (heard shot #1 from west of her (behind her facing direction) while walking east in TSBD hallway; she had been listening to radio of approaching motorcade when she decided to find a TSBD south face office window; First office she checked was locked so she went to WILSON's office, heard the shot that came from west of her just before opening his door then opened door and saw WILSON standing and looking out his office window; she then went to window and looked out in time to see a press bus passing by) ….WEST of "snipers lair" JARMAN Jr., JAMES "Joe" EARL ….DAL-TEX (below him & left of him) DORMAN, ELSIE T. ….RECORDS BUILDING HENDERSON, RUBY (Mrs. TONEY) ….NOT ASKED (but remembered hearing 4 shots with shot #1="firecracker", then shot #2 + shot #3 were quick & very close together, then 4th shot; before-observed 2 men on 6th floor seemingly together) HOPSON, YOLA (Mrs. OLIVER) ….ELSEWHERE (not TSBD) McVEY, OSCAR S. ….ELSEWHERE (not TSBD) REESE, MADDIE BELLE ….ELSEWHERE (not TSBD) HOBSON, ALVIN (Mrs.) ….ELSEWHERE (not TSBD) ALONZO, AURELIA ….GK ARNOLD, GORDON L. ….GK BOONE, EUGENE "RON" L. ….GK BREWER, EDWARD "Buddy" D. ….GK BROWN, MARGARET "Maggie" ….GK BURNS, DORIS FAY (Miss) ….GK CARR, RICHARD RANDOLPH ….GK CRAWFORD, JAMES N. ….GK CURRY, JESSE EDWARD ….GK DECKER, WILLIAM "Bill" ….GK DISHONG, JUNE ....GK DONALDSON-ATTERBERRY, ANN ….GK "headshot woman" (told FAULKNER shots came from arcade-pergola monument & that president was dead because she saw him shot thru head) ….GK "shots from limo front" (seen by HARKNESS and told HARKNESS shots were fired from in front of limo) ….GK HOFFMAN, VIRGIL EDWARD "Ed" ….GK MABRA, W. "Bo" W. ….GK McCULLY, JUDITH "Judy" LOUISE ….GK McCURLEY, A. D. ….GK MOONEY, LUKE ….GK NEWMAN, FRANCES "Gayle" ….GK NEWMAN, JEAN (Mrs. PUSER EDWARD) ….GK NEWMAN, WILLIAM "Bill" EUGENE ….GK NIX Sr., ORVILLE O. ….GK OXFORD-"GK smoke witness" (saw smoke from GK fence corner and directed OXFORD there) ….GK PRICE, J. C. ….GK REILLY, FRANK E. ….GK STANTON, HANK ….GK WEITZMAN, WILLIAM "Bill" SEYMOUR ….GK "GK shots" (after-seen by WEITZMAN on TOP w. side nr RR yard & told him he heard shots from GK picket fence area; WEITZMAN later identified this man as BARKER) ….GK YATES, JOHN ….GK ZAPRUDER, EMIL ABRAHAM ….GK McKINNON, CHERYL ….GK (at least 2 of the 3 shots she remembered hearing were from the GK) TSBD office woman (1 of 3) (DP witness who WC mentioned was interviewed by DPD but no reference provided; located on TSBD 3rd floor according to FAULKNER saying he spoke with 3 women who said they watched from 3rd floor & thought shots came from near pergola) ….GK TSBD office woman (2 of 3) (DP witness who WC mentioned was interviewed by DPD but no reference provided; located on TSBD 3rd floor according to FAULKNER saying he spoke with 3 women who said they watched from 3rd floor & thought shots came from near pergola) ….GK TSBD office woman (3 of 3) (DP witness who WC mentioned was interviewed by DPD but no reference provided; located on TSBD 3rd floor according to FAULKNER saying he spoke with 3 women who said they watched from 3rd floor & thought shots came from near pergola) ….GK HOLT, JEANNE "Gloria" ….GK JACOB, STELLA MAE ….GK NELSON (nee SIMMONS), SHARON ….GK HARGIS, ROBERT "Bobby" WELDON ….GK ("right next to me") POWERS, DAVID F. ….GK &/or TSBD intersection ("overhead or GK") ALTGENS, JAMES "Ike" WILLIAM ….GK shot then maybe 1 or 2 shots then TSBD intersection shot-"coming from behind the car" TAGUE, JAMES "Jim" THOMAS ….GK ("coming from my left" "by the, whatever you call the monument"=the north pergola) LOVELADY, BILLY NOLAN ….GK-from "concrete deal on the knoll" SMITH, JOE MARSHALL-"screaming 'from the bushes’ woman" (told JOE SMITH "They are shooting the President from the bushes."; she may have been the woman who was standing next to McKINNON near the second street lamppost who can be seen in the WIEGMAN film running northeast up Elm towards SMITH's attack start location) ….GK SMITH Jr., EDGAR LEON ….GK ("from concrete structure"=pergola) FRANZEN, JACK ….GK ("from inside limo") SORRELS, FOREST VERNE ….GK ("from terrace to my right") SMITH, JOE MARSHALL ….GK (from "overpass bushes") BRONSON, CHARLES LESLIE ….GK (from "west plaza") MOLINA, JOSEPH "Joe" RODRIGUEZ ….GK (from "west side of TSBD") SHELLEY, WILLIAM HOYT ….GK (from "west"-ran with LOVELADY to GK) WOODWARD (PILLSWORTH), MARY ELIZABETH ANN …. GK BOWERS Jr., LEE E. ….GK+TSBD JACKSON, ROBERT "Bob" HILL W. ….TSBD+GK (smelled gunpowder) SLACK, GARLAND GLENWILL ….GK+TSBD WHITAKER, LUPE "Lucy" (Mrs. H. G.) ….GK+TSBD (heard 2 shots from west of TSBD and also from above her) CHISM, JOHN ARTHUR ….GK (from behind CHISM) CHISM, MARION FAYE ….GK (from behind CHISM) HESTER, BEATRICE ….GK DAVIS, GEORGE AVERY ….GK ("close") WEST, ROBERT H. ….GK (heard shots from northwest quadrant of DP) PARKER, ROBERTA (Mrs. WILLIAM V.) ….GK (from near pergola) HAWKINS, PEGGY JOYCE BIGLER ….GK (shots from railroad yard) ROWLAND, ARNOLD LOUIS (before-@ 12:16 pm ROWLAND saw 2 men in TSBD- 6th when he saw a white man in southeast window (circa 12:14/15) then saw a scoped-rifle holding light skinned Latin or Caucasian (at 12:16), 200 pounds, dark or black hair in second most westerly 6th floor WEST open window; the west window armed man was wearing a light colored or light blue shirt unbuttoned about half way down with a white tee shirt and either dark pants or blue jean pants and was standing 3 to 5 feet back from the WEST open window; looked towards the railroad yard but did not look at TSBD) ….GK (from railroad yard & ran behind GK fence to railroad yard) ARCE, DANNY GARCIA ….GK (shots from railroad yard & then ran to railroad yard behind GK) BAKER (nee RACHLEY), VIRGIE (Mrs. DONALD SAM BAKER) ….GK (from towards railroad yard) FRAZIER, BUELL WESLEY …. GK (shots from towards triple overpass direction from FRAZIER) WEATHERFORD, HARRY ….GK CAMPBELL, OCHUS "Otis" VIRGIL ….GK (railroad area near viaduct) ELKINS, HAROLD E. ….GK (between GK and TSBD from his attack location perspective) DAVIS, AVERY (Mrs. CHARLES THOMAS) ….GK (shots from triple overpass/railroad yard from her location perspective) DODD, RICHARD CALVIN ….GK (saw GK gun smoke) JOHNSON, CLEMON EARL ….GK (saw GK gun smoke) JOHNSON, EDWARD "Ed" ….GK (saw GK gun smoke) MILLER, AUSTIN LAWRENCE ….GK (saw GK gun smoke) MURPHY, THOMAS J.….GK (saw GK gun smoke) PASCHALL, PATSY (told OAKES in a video interview that she saw the GK smoke-JAYNES said she saw smoke between the retaining wall and picket fence corner) ….GK (saw GK gun smoke) POTTER, NOLAN H. ….GK (saw GK gun smoke) SIMMONS, JAMES LEON ….GK (saw GK gun smoke) WINBORN, WALTER "Luke"….GK (saw GK gun smoke) HILL, JEAN ….….GK (saw GK gun smoke; claimed years later) "railroad worker man" (saw smoke from GK & heard shots from GK and told McCURLEY) ….GK HOLLAND, SAMUEL M. "Skinny" ….GK (saw GK gun smoke) PATERNOSTRO, SAMUEL BURTON ….GK-TOP then Criminal Courts Building or TSBD KOUNAS, DOLORES ARLEAN (Mrs. GEORGE ANDREW) ….GK (from underpass/GK direction from her location perspective) ADAMS , VICTORIA "Vickie" ELIZABETH ….GK (heard shots from west + below her after JFK & Jackie had BOTH turned to face north sidewalk) TRULY, ROY SANSOM ….GK (shots from west of TSBD towards the "WPA" project) BERRY, JANE (Mrs. A. G.) ….GK (shots from west of TSBD) GARNER, DOROTHY ANN ….GK (shots from west of TSBD) HICKS, JAMES "Jim" DANIEL (heard shots from 2 directions but not clear as to 2nd source; ran to GK after) ….GK (shots from west of TSBD) + ? (not sure of second shots source) WILSON, STEVEN F. ….GK (shots from west of TSBD end or from "colonnade"=pergola but "not above me") MUDD, F. LEE ….GK (shots from west of TSBD) CABELL, EARLE ….TSBD (3 or 4 shots) FISCHER, RONALD B. ….initially said shots from TSBD then later warrenatti-testified to shots coming from GK-railroad area west of depository ALLMAN, PIERCE ….TSBD intersection BARNETT, WILLIAM EUGENE ….TSBD intersection BENNETT, GLEN A. (after-@ 17:30 wrote in his notes on AF1 that he heard a first shot, then he turned and saw a bullet hole in JFK back about "about 4" down from the right shoulder. A second shot followed immediately and hit the right rear high of the President's head." (he could not have turned his head fast enough to see the same-noised first bullet hit so he heard a first bullet, turned and saw the result of the second bullet into JFK's back then saw the third bullet hit the head almost immediately after the second bullet); not called to testify) ….TSBD intersection BRANDT, ERNEST CARL (saw JFK immediately react to 1st of 3 shots BRANDT remembered hearing when JFK raised his right hand to throat when JFK was just past BRANDT & 15' away in about a 1 o‘clock position relative to BRANDT) ….TSBD intersection BRENNAN, HOWARD LESLIE (could not see JFK after Zf-252/253 but stated he saw the headshot explosion after he watched the east window TSBD assassin fire his final shot) ….TSBD BURROWS, FRANCINE ….TSBD intersection CONNALLY Jr., JOHN BOWDEN ….TSBD intersection FOSTER, TONI ….TSBD intersection (heard 4 shots) HESTER, CHARLES ….TSBD intersection (in his FBI statement it sounds like he saw JFK slump THEN he remembered hearing 2 additional shots) HICKEY Jr., GEORGE W. (stated he turned to his right after 1st audible muzzle blast=turn started @ Zf-195 & stated after he turned back towards JFK that 2 shots rang out "in such rapid succession that there seemed to be practically no time element between them."=in ALTGENS@Zf-255 HICKEY is still facing rearward) ….TSBD intersection HUDSON, EMMETT JOSEPH (heard shots come over his head fired from behind him and above; said in 11-26 FBI statement that the 1st shot he heard hit the head, then 2 more shots followed in "rapid succession") ….TSBD intersection JACKS, HURCHEL ….TSBD intersection JOHNSON, LYNDON BAINES ….TSBD intersection KILDUFF, MALCOLM "Max" MAXWELL ….TSBD intersection KIVETT JERRY D. ….TSBD intersection LACY, JAMES ….TSBD intersection LAWRENCE, PATRICIA ANN (Miss) ….TSBD intersection (above her) MARTIN Jr., JOHN H. ….TSBD intersection ROMACK, JAMES ELLIOT ….TSBD intersection SANDERS, PAULINE (Mrs. ROBERT E.) ….TSBD intersection (above her) SHELTON, KEITH ….TSBD intersection SMITH, ALAN ….TSBD intersection SWEATT, ALLAN ….TSBD intersection TAYLOR, WARREN W. "Woody" (stated he put his left foot out of the Secret Service vice presidential follow-up car onto Elm Street BEFORE he heard the last 2 shots he remembered hearing but in the ALTGENS photo at Zf-255 his left foot is not yet seen touching Elm Street) ….TSBD intersection TOWNER, TINA ….TSBD intersection WILLIAMS, BONNIE RAY (not sure where 1st shot from because he was not paying attention but said 2nd & 3rd from TSBD (above); did not hear shells hitting floor; 11-22-63 statement says 2 shots above) after-only black man visible in the POWELL photo; before-ate very close to "snipers lair" on 6th floor but did not hear nor see anyone; in 11-23-63 FBI statement said he went to 6th floor from 12:00-12:03 with his lunch but saw no one & went to 5th floor; in 1-16-64 FBI statement he said he ate on the 6th floor; glanced upwards during shots but saw no one; changed the number of shots he heard to 3 in 3-19-64 FBI statement; said he saw a DPD patrolman come on the 5th floor & look around while they were standing at the west side of the 5th floor after the attack) ….TSBD intersection SUMMERS, MALCOLM ….TSBD intersection & GK WILLIS, ROSEMARY ….TSBD intersection & GK LANDIS, PAUL E. ….TSBD intersection then GK (behind JFK then from in front of JFK) MILLICAN, A. J. ….TSBD intersection & GK (TSBD then behind GK then pergola) O'DONNELL, KENNETH "Ken" "Kenny" P. (after-in 1968 during a shared dinner he told TIP O'NEIL that he felt sure that 2 of the shots came from behind the fence & that he told the FBI that but the FBI told him it could not have happened that way and that he was imagining things so O'DONNELL testified the way the FBI wanted him to & O'NEILL said that DAVE POWERS was also at the same dinner & agreed with what O'DONNELL said about there being GK shots) ….TSBD intersection then from GK years afterward TEMPLIN, JOHN (heard 3 shots with first two bunched closer than last two; said 1st definitely came from TSBD, 2nd from railroad yard and hit JFK in head & sounded different and 3rd shot from TSBD with sequence lasting 6 seconds; after-did a "Sixth Floor Museum" oral interview and said that "his" 1st shot occurred when limo was 30' past himself; standing to BRANDT's left; BRANDT's friend & business client; BRANDT said TEMPLIN said he heard 3 shots; TEMPLIN also thought 1st shot was a cycle backfire; saw limo brake lights on; after-did not go public with his claims until early 1990's) ….TSBD intersection then railroad yard then TSBD intersection CHANEY, JAMES M. ( in a 11-22-63 tv interview said that when he heard the first shot it sounded like a motorcycle backfiring & he looked to his left & JFK "looked back over his left shoulder" & it was CHANEY's 2nd shot that hit JFK in the head; also said the firing was from "back over my right shoulder") ….TSBD intersection ("back over right shoulder") FOSTER, JAMES WILSON (saw bullet strike in south elm grass nr. sewer cement apron corner; speaking with SIMMONS during attack start; in his FBI report of 3-25-64 he stated JFK's head exploded with the 2nd shot and he then heard a third shot after that; said his 1st shot sounded like large firecracker; testified no shots came from TOP ….TSBD intersection ("corner of Elm and Houston") MITCHELL, WILLIE ….TSBD intersection ("from the rear") WILLIS, PHILLIP LaFRANCE ….TSBD intersection ("high") SITZMAN, MARILYN ….TSBD intersection ("leftward" relative to SITZMAN) READY, JOHN "Jack" D. ….TSBD intersection ("right rear") LEWIS, RAY "Roy" EDWARD ….TSBD intersection ("above") GREER, WILLIAM ROBERT ….TSBD intersection (behind) JOHNSON, "LADYBIRD" CLAUDIA ALTA (nee TAYLOR) ….TSBD intersection (above her right shoulder) BAKER, MARION L. ….TSBD intersection (from TSBD "or the one across to the right of it" = Dal-Tex) BREHM, CHARLES F. (around 12:45-1:00 pm while still standing in DP BREHM was quoted by "DTH" reporter as saying shots came from in front or beside JFK; years later BREHM changed to shots came from TSBD intersection; said JFK 30' away at 1st shot when JOE waved then JFK waved & was shot & reacted towards throat then "slumped down in the seat" & 20'-25' away @ 2nd shot when JFK was shot in head and "hair went flying" & "he slumped all the way down"; saw "whatever it was" (head fragment) "move left & back" and land "in the area of the curb" or "into" the curb; heard 3rd shot after headshot; at the "Showtime" trial testified that the shots came from either the TSBD or Dal-tex; also stated the 3rd shot BREHM heard missed and was the reason BREHM threw his son on ground and covered him protectively) ….initially stated GK then later changed to TSBD intersection (one of two buildings at the corner of Elm and Houston = either TSBD or Dal-Tex) UNDERWOOD, JAMES ROBERT (after-went back to TSBD front and talked with EUINS & EUINS said he saw a black man shooting; WC-testimony implies even spacing but told TRASK #2 & 3 were bunched) ….TSBD intersection (overhead) KELLERMAN, ROY K. (testified that the assassination ended in a rapid flurry of shots that sounded like a sonic boom quickness one shot right after the other) ….TSBD intersection (right) CONNALLY, NELLIE (actually "Idanell") (nee BRILL) (shot #1 JFK (in 2003 she described it as a cycle making a terrible backfire noise); shot #2 JBC; shot #3 JFK) wrote out the 22 pages of notes for her 2003 book "From Love Field" after CONNALLY left PH some 7 to 12 days after being shot; in 2003 an article about her said she still had one of JOHN's cufflinks from 11-22-63 that was made from a Mexican peso & that the other 11-22-63 cufflink HAD BEEN SHOT OFF) ….TSBD intersection (right rear) HILL, CLINTON "Clint" J. (middle initial "J" may stand for "Jay") (heard the 2nd shot he remembered hearing come from the right but not for sure from the rear as he was running to limo & stated that shot sounded noticeably different than this 1st shot because it had a fast double sound to it with a tinge of a metallic sound; heard his 1st shot when SS followup car was straightening out and he was looking to his left which sounded like a firecracker that came from his right rear and he immediately looked back to his right and saw JFK grab his throat and slump forward and left; he thought JACKIE was reaching for something falling off the right rear of the limo and that maybe he saw that something also; after-in limousine and at PH he observed the right rear portion of the head missing; also requested to view the body at BH where he saw back wound to right of spine and 6" below neckline and saw the front neck wound) ….TSBD intersection (right rear) YOUNGBLOOD, RUFUS WAYNE "Jack" (during-@ 12:30 smelled gunpowder (according to letter to PALAMARA) & heard shots from TSBD intersection then before the 2nd shot he remembered hearing he turned and pushed LBJ down yet in the ALTGENS photo taken at Z-255 he and LBJ are still sitting upright) ….TSBD intersection (right rear) YARBOROUGH, RALPH WEBSTER (during-@ 12:30 smelled gunpowder; first stated 1st two shots were bunched but warrenatti statement says that last 2 shots were bunched with 3 seconds between 1st & 2nd and 1.5 seconds between 2nd & 3rd) ….TSBD intersection ATKINS, THOMAS "Ollie" (during-@ 12:30 heard shots from in front of him but he thought they were coming from crowd level; "Although I did not look up at the building, I could hear everything quite clearly....the shots came from below and off to the right side from where I was. I never thought the shots came from above. They did not sound like shots coming from anything higher than street level." ….TSBD or Dal-Tex FRANZEN, JOAN (saw blood cloud from limo then heard 2 more shots; saw blood on JFK's head with last 2 shots; did not look at TSBD & thought shots came from an area adjacent to the TSBD) ….TSBD or "area adjacent to TSBD" (either intersection or GK pergola) DOUGHERTY, JACK EDWIN (@ 07:55 saw nothing in OSWALD's hand when OSWALD arrived for work) ….TSBD ("inside") HINE, GENEVA L. ( testified she did not see REID where REID said she was on the TSBD 1st floor at the time REID said she was there; testified that shortly before limo entered DP that the electric and phones went dead in TSBD) ….TSBD ("inside") NORMAN, HAROLD "Hank," "Shorty" D. (heard the 1st shot he remembered hearing come from above him & saw the President slump after that 1st shot; heard 3 shots & 3 "clicks" of what he assumed to be a rifle bolt recycling & 3 shell cartridges hitting the floor from directly above him; in the "Showtime" trial he would not say he heard the muzzle blasts directly above him-just that he heard them as being above his ears & he heard what he presumed to be the rifle recycling manually & the ejected shells pinging on floor; told FBI he stuck his head out the window after the 1st shot and looked upward but saw nothing because particles of something fell into his eyes before the 2nd & 3rd shots he heard; had lunch at 12:00 in "domino room"; ….TSBD ("inside") PIPER, EDWARD "Eddie" ….TSBD-"inside" REID, CAROLYN (Mrs. ROBERT A.) (during- with TRULY & O.CAMPBELL & said she thought shots came "from our building" but heard someone else say the shots came from "farther down the street"; on 11-26-63 her statement reads the shots she heard came "from overhead" but not specifically from her building; HINE testified that she did not see REID where REID said she was at the time REID said she was on TSBD 1st floor; ….TSBD ("our building") POWELL, JOHN ….TSBD (he & others he stated were with him saw 2 men in "snipers air" before attack) COUCH, MALCOLM "Mal" O. ….TSBD EUINS, AMOS LEE ….TSBD (heard 4 shots) TERRY, L. R. ….TSBD (saw 2 men) WORRELL Jr., JAMES RICHARD (saw man run out TSBD back door within 2 minutes of last shot) ….TSBD (heard 4 shots) BROWN, EARLE V. ….TSBD (smelled gunpowder) CABELL, ELIZABETH "Dearie" ….TSBD (smelled gunpowder) DILLARD, THOMAS "Tom" CLINTON ….TSBD (smelled gunpowder) WILLIS, LINDA KAY ....COULD NOT TELL (to warrenatti), then GK (to HSCA) HOEFEN, JOHN (in Cam Car #1; heard 3 or 4 shots; during a radio report he said "there was a loud shot-at first we thought it was from some teenagers-and it was immediately followed by 2 or 3 more.") ….NO OPINION RICKERBY, ARTHUR "Art" BURROUGHS (in Cam Car #2; heard more than 3 shots; his widow WANDA told PALAMARA that he heard more shots than was reported by all the press (the press mostly reported 3 shots); after-his widow told PALAMARA he disagreed with the number of shots reported in the press) ….NO OPINION SPEAKER, SANDY (construction worker with BRENNAN; heard 5 shots from less than half block away) …..NO OPINION ORR, MAURICE (heard 5 shots) ….NOT ASKED "Johnny's Husband" (man) (during attack supposedly saw shooter on GK; he was standing on a "platform" & witnessed GK assassin his rifle & saw assassin shoot; he is husband of woman named "Johnny" who M.L. GRIFFITH posted on newsgroup that GRIFFITH’s mother overheard in Houston in 1983) ….GK "seen in ALTGENS@255-"dark raincoat man" Elm + Houston at south end of curve of people near northeast corner of Elm & Houston seen in ALTGENS Zf-255 just below BREHM's clapping hands and he seems to be looking towards TSBD; ….TSBD intersection "seen in ALTGENS@255-"intersection boy" Elm + Houston at south end of curve of people near northeast corner of Elm & Houston seen in ALTGENS Zf-255 just below BREHM's clapping hands and he seems to be looking towards TSBD; just behind the rear of the SS-VP car ….TSBD intersection "seen in ALTGENS@255-"intersection woman" Elm + Houston at south end of curve of people near northeast corner of Elm & Houston seen in ALTGENS Zf-255 just below BREHM's clapping hands and he seems to be looking towards TSBD ….TSBD intersection "white cowboy hat man" seen in DARNELL film looking upwards towards the TSBD; hat seen in ALTGENS@255 just to right of HARGIS's helmet ….TSBD intersection Don CV-67, "Big John," USS John F. Kennedy Plank Walker Sooner, or later, the Truth emerges Clearly http://members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/DP.jpg http://members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/ROSE...NOUNCEMENT.html http://members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/BOND...PINGarnold.html http://members.aol.com/DRoberdeau/JFK/GHOS...update2001.html T ogether E veryone A chieves M ore "(D)rehm (sic) seemed to think the shots came from in FRONT OF or BESIDE the President." (my EMPHASIS) ----CHARLES F. BREHM, a gunfire-battle experienced, WWII D-day, United States Army Ranger veteran, quoted just minutes after the attack while still standing within Dealey Plaza, "Dallas Times Herald," 11-22-63, final edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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