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Don Roberdeau
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Good Day.... Of 267 witnesses who have expressed or were asked the number

of shots that they *remembered* hearing, 249 (93%) claimed to hear only 3

shots (or 3 closely spaced volleys of shots) or less.

(A "shot" in 1963 could have been a non-mechanically-suppress-fired audible

muzzle blast, or, a mechanically-suppress-fired audible muzzle blast; both of

which would have also caused (and been closely followed by) an audible bullet

bow shockwave if the bullet was traveling faster than the speed of sound)

The majority of witnesses, from one end of the plaza to the other, said

that the last two shots (or volleys of shots) that they *remembered*

hearing were noticeably, and distinctly, much closer together, than the

first two shots (or closely spaced volleys of shots).

Of 207 witnesses who expressed or were asked from where the shots they

*remembered* hearing came from (60 witnesses were never asked &/or never

expressed an opinion):

34 witnesses could not tell (16%)

63 witnesses heard all the shots they *remembered* hearing come from the

depository or the Houston/Elm intersection area of the depository (31%)

110 witnesses *remembered* hearing at least one shot that did not come

from the depository or the Houston/Elm intersection area (53%)

.: Therefore, of the 173 persons who had an opinion of the shots

locations, 64% *remembered* hearing at least one shot that did not come

from the depository or the Houston/Elm intersection area, while 36% heard

all the shots that they *remembered* hearing come from the depository or

the Houston/Elm intersection area of the depository.

The following are from my personal detailed list of witnesses that I have spoken

with over the decades, seen in documentaries, listened to on cassettes or radio,

seen in photographic evidences, and read about.

If you need help for a reference for a specific person, please ask which

specific person(s) you need help for and I can provide it for you.

The vast majority of witnesses who expressed an opinion or were asked from

where the shots they *remembered* hearing came from are listed. (for some

reason the file I quickly went to for the following list is missing a few of

the 173 total witnesses comprising the two basic groups of witnesses who

*remembered* hearing either at least one shot that did not come from the

Houston/Elm intersection area, and the witnesses who heard all the shots that

they *remembered* hearing come from the depository or the Houston/Elm

intersection area of the depository. I will see if I can locate those few

witnesses not on the following list from when I originally tabulated them)

I welcome any and all referenced comments as I am steadily working towards

freely making publicly available the details comprising my to-date personal

list of 4631 persons related or possibly related before/during/after the assassination.

ALLEN, JULIAN B. (Mrs. J. U.) ....COULD NOT TELL

AULT, CECIL ....COULD NOT TELL

BETZNER Jr., HUGH WILLIAM ....COULD NOT TELL

BOND, WILMA IRENE ....COULD NOT TELL

CLARK, ROBERT "Bob" ....COULD NOT TELL

COLEY, JERRY LANE ....COULD NOT TELL

COWSERT, EWELL "Davey" WILLIAM ....COULD NOT TELL

CRAIG, ROGER DEAN ....COULD NOT TELL

DENHAM, W. H. ....COULD NOT TELL

DOLAN (or "Doland"), JOHN F. ....COULD NOT TELL

HARKNESS, DAVID V. ....COULD NOT TELL

HOOKER, JEANETTE E. ....COULD NOT TELL

JONES, CARL EDWARD ....COULD NOT TELL

LEWIS, CARLUS E. ....COULD NOT TELL

MARTIN, BILLY JOE "B. J." ....COULD NOT TELL

McINTYRE, WILLIAM TIMOTHY "Tim" ....COULD NOT TELL

MOORE, T. E. ....COULD NOT TELL

MOORMAN, MARY ANN ....COULD NOT TELL (heard a shot after she took her Zf-315.6 polaroid photo)

MUCHMORE, MARIE ....COULD NOT TELL

MURPHY, JOSEPH "Joe" E. ....COULD NOT TELL

O'BRIEN, LAWRENCE "Larry" F. ....COULD NOT TELL

ROBERTS, EMORY P. ....COULD NOT TELL

ROWLAND, BARBARA WALKER ....COULD NOT TELL

SKELTON, ROYCE GLENN ....COULD NOT TELL (heard 4 shots)

STANTON, SARAH D. ....COULD NOT TELL

STYLES, SANDRA ....COULD NOT TELL

THOMPSON, CHARLES "Chuck" ....COULD NOT TELL

THORNTON, RUTH (Mrs. U. L.) ....COULD NOT TELL

WALTHER, CAROLYN ELIZABETH ....COULD NOT TELL (heard 4 shots)

WITT, LOUIS STEVEN ....COULD NOT TELL

EDWARDS, ROBERT EDWIN ....COULD NOT TELL (heard 4 shots)

HOLMES, HARRY D. ....COULD NOT TELL ("firecrackers" & "from the crowd over

there")

LAWSON, WINSTON "Win" G. ....COULD NOT TELL-"over right shoulder" (at first

shot he was just past picket fence corner & below picket fence)

BURROUGHS Jr., HENRY DASHIELLE ….NO OPINION (remembered hearing 4 shots

with pause between 1st and 2nd with last 3 bunched closely)

ELERSON, SANDRA SUE (Mrs. RONALD G.) ….DID NOT HEAR ANY SHOTS

WEST, TROY EUGENE ….DID NOT HEAR ANY SHOTS

BURNS, DORIS FAY (Miss) (heard shot #1 from west of her (behind her facing

direction) while walking east in TSBD hallway; she had been listening to radio

of approaching motorcade when she decided to find a TSBD south face office

window; First office she checked was locked so she went to WILSON's office,

heard the shot that came from west of her just before opening his door then

opened door and saw WILSON standing and looking out his office window; she then

went to window and looked out in time to see a press bus passing by) ….WEST

of "snipers lair"

JARMAN Jr., JAMES "Joe" EARL ….DAL-TEX (below him & left of him)

DORMAN, ELSIE T. ….RECORDS BUILDING

HENDERSON, RUBY (Mrs. TONEY) ….NOT ASKED (but remembered hearing 4 shots

with shot #1="firecracker", then shot #2 + shot #3 were quick & very close

together, then 4th shot; before-observed 2 men on 6th floor seemingly together)

HOPSON, YOLA (Mrs. OLIVER) ….ELSEWHERE (not TSBD)

McVEY, OSCAR S. ….ELSEWHERE (not TSBD)

REESE, MADDIE BELLE ….ELSEWHERE (not TSBD)

HOBSON, ALVIN (Mrs.) ….ELSEWHERE (not TSBD)

ALONZO, AURELIA ….GK

ARNOLD, GORDON L. ….GK

BOONE, EUGENE "RON" L. ….GK

BREWER, EDWARD "Buddy" D. ….GK

BROWN, MARGARET "Maggie" ….GK

BURNS, DORIS FAY (Miss) ….GK

CARR, RICHARD RANDOLPH ….GK

CRAWFORD, JAMES N. ….GK

CURRY, JESSE EDWARD ….GK

DECKER, WILLIAM "Bill" ….GK

DISHONG, JUNE ....GK

DONALDSON-ATTERBERRY, ANN ….GK

"headshot woman" (told FAULKNER shots came from arcade-pergola monument &

that president was dead because she saw him shot thru head) ….GK

"shots from limo front" (seen by HARKNESS and told HARKNESS shots were fired

from in front of limo) ….GK

HOFFMAN, VIRGIL EDWARD "Ed" ….GK

MABRA, W. "Bo" W. ….GK

McCULLY, JUDITH "Judy" LOUISE ….GK

McCURLEY, A. D. ….GK

MOONEY, LUKE ….GK

NEWMAN, FRANCES "Gayle" ….GK

NEWMAN, JEAN (Mrs. PUSER EDWARD) ….GK

NEWMAN, WILLIAM "Bill" EUGENE ….GK

NIX Sr., ORVILLE O. ….GK

OXFORD-"GK smoke witness" (saw smoke from GK fence corner and directed

OXFORD there) ….GK

PRICE, J. C. ….GK

REILLY, FRANK E. ….GK

STANTON, HANK ….GK

WEITZMAN, WILLIAM "Bill" SEYMOUR ….GK

"GK shots" (after-seen by WEITZMAN on TOP w. side nr RR yard & told him he

heard shots from GK picket fence area; WEITZMAN later identified this man as

BARKER) ….GK

YATES, JOHN ….GK

ZAPRUDER, EMIL ABRAHAM ….GK

McKINNON, CHERYL ….GK (at least 2 of the 3 shots she remembered hearing were

from the GK)

TSBD office woman (1 of 3) (DP witness who WC mentioned was interviewed by

DPD but no reference provided; located on TSBD 3rd floor according to FAULKNER

saying he spoke with 3 women who said they watched from 3rd floor & thought

shots came from near pergola) ….GK

TSBD office woman (2 of 3) (DP witness who WC mentioned was interviewed by

DPD but no reference provided; located on TSBD 3rd floor according to FAULKNER

saying he spoke with 3 women who said they watched from 3rd floor & thought

shots came from near pergola) ….GK

TSBD office woman (3 of 3) (DP witness who WC mentioned was interviewed by

DPD but no reference provided; located on TSBD 3rd floor according to FAULKNER

saying he spoke with 3 women who said they watched from 3rd floor & thought

shots came from near pergola) ….GK

HOLT, JEANNE "Gloria" ….GK

JACOB, STELLA MAE ….GK

NELSON (nee SIMMONS), SHARON ….GK

HARGIS, ROBERT "Bobby" WELDON ….GK ("right next to me")

POWERS, DAVID F. ….GK &/or TSBD intersection ("overhead or GK")

ALTGENS, JAMES "Ike" WILLIAM ….GK shot then maybe 1 or 2 shots then TSBD

intersection shot-"coming from behind the car"

TAGUE, JAMES "Jim" THOMAS ….GK ("coming from my left" "by the, whatever you

call the monument"=the north pergola)

LOVELADY, BILLY NOLAN ….GK-from "concrete deal on the knoll"

SMITH, JOE MARSHALL-"screaming 'from the bushes’ woman" (told JOE

SMITH "They are shooting the President from the bushes."; she may have been

the woman who was standing next to McKINNON near the second street lamppost

who can be seen in the WIEGMAN film running northeast up Elm towards SMITH's

attack start location) ….GK

SMITH Jr., EDGAR LEON ….GK ("from concrete structure"=pergola)

FRANZEN, JACK ….GK ("from inside limo")

SORRELS, FOREST VERNE ….GK ("from terrace to my right")

SMITH, JOE MARSHALL ….GK (from "overpass bushes")

BRONSON, CHARLES LESLIE ….GK (from "west plaza")

MOLINA, JOSEPH "Joe" RODRIGUEZ ….GK (from "west side of TSBD")

SHELLEY, WILLIAM HOYT ….GK (from "west"-ran with LOVELADY to GK)

WOODWARD (PILLSWORTH), MARY ELIZABETH ANN …. GK

BOWERS Jr., LEE E. ….GK+TSBD

JACKSON, ROBERT "Bob" HILL W. ….TSBD+GK (smelled gunpowder)

SLACK, GARLAND GLENWILL ….GK+TSBD

WHITAKER, LUPE "Lucy" (Mrs. H. G.) ….GK+TSBD (heard 2 shots from west of

TSBD and also from above her)

CHISM, JOHN ARTHUR ….GK (from behind CHISM)

CHISM, MARION FAYE ….GK (from behind CHISM)

HESTER, BEATRICE ….GK

DAVIS, GEORGE AVERY ….GK ("close")

WEST, ROBERT H. ….GK (heard shots from northwest quadrant of DP)

PARKER, ROBERTA (Mrs. WILLIAM V.) ….GK (from near pergola)

HAWKINS, PEGGY JOYCE BIGLER ….GK (shots from railroad yard)

ROWLAND, ARNOLD LOUIS (before-@ 12:16 pm ROWLAND saw 2 men in TSBD-

6th when he saw a white man in southeast window (circa 12:14/15) then saw a

scoped-rifle holding light skinned Latin or Caucasian (at 12:16), 200 pounds, dark

or black hair in second most westerly 6th floor WEST open window; the west

window armed man was wearing a light colored or light blue shirt unbuttoned

about half way down with a white tee shirt and either dark pants or blue jean

pants and was standing 3 to 5 feet back from the WEST open window; looked

towards the railroad yard but did not look at TSBD) ….GK (from railroad yard &

ran behind GK fence to railroad yard)

ARCE, DANNY GARCIA ….GK (shots from railroad yard & then ran to railroad yard

behind GK)

BAKER (nee RACHLEY), VIRGIE (Mrs. DONALD SAM BAKER) ….GK (from towards

railroad yard)

FRAZIER, BUELL WESLEY …. GK (shots from towards triple overpass direction

from FRAZIER)

WEATHERFORD, HARRY ….GK

CAMPBELL, OCHUS "Otis" VIRGIL ….GK (railroad area near viaduct)

ELKINS, HAROLD E. ….GK (between GK and TSBD from his attack location

perspective)

DAVIS, AVERY (Mrs. CHARLES THOMAS) ….GK (shots from triple overpass/railroad

yard from her location perspective)

DODD, RICHARD CALVIN ….GK (saw GK gun smoke)

JOHNSON, CLEMON EARL ….GK (saw GK gun smoke)

JOHNSON, EDWARD "Ed" ….GK (saw GK gun smoke)

MILLER, AUSTIN LAWRENCE ….GK (saw GK gun smoke)

MURPHY, THOMAS J.….GK (saw GK gun smoke)

PASCHALL, PATSY (told OAKES in a video interview that she saw the GK

smoke-JAYNES said she saw smoke between the retaining wall and picket fence

corner) ….GK (saw GK gun smoke)

POTTER, NOLAN H. ….GK (saw GK gun smoke)

SIMMONS, JAMES LEON ….GK (saw GK gun smoke)

WINBORN, WALTER "Luke"….GK (saw GK gun smoke)

HILL, JEAN ….….GK (saw GK gun smoke; claimed years later)

"railroad worker man" (saw smoke from GK & heard shots from GK and told

McCURLEY) ….GK

HOLLAND, SAMUEL M. "Skinny" ….GK (saw GK gun smoke)

PATERNOSTRO, SAMUEL BURTON ….GK-TOP then Criminal Courts Building or TSBD

KOUNAS, DOLORES ARLEAN (Mrs. GEORGE ANDREW) ….GK (from underpass/GK

direction from her location perspective)

ADAMS , VICTORIA "Vickie" ELIZABETH ….GK (heard shots from west + below

her after JFK & Jackie had BOTH turned to face north sidewalk)

TRULY, ROY SANSOM ….GK (shots from west of TSBD towards the "WPA" project)

BERRY, JANE (Mrs. A. G.) ….GK (shots from west of TSBD)

GARNER, DOROTHY ANN ….GK (shots from west of TSBD)

HICKS, JAMES "Jim" DANIEL (heard shots from 2 directions but not clear as to

2nd source; ran to GK after) ….GK (shots from west of TSBD) + ? (not sure of

second shots source)

WILSON, STEVEN F. ….GK (shots from west of TSBD end or from

"colonnade"=pergola but "not above me")

MUDD, F. LEE ….GK (shots from west of TSBD)

CABELL, EARLE ….TSBD (3 or 4 shots)

FISCHER, RONALD B. ….initially said shots from TSBD then later

warrenatti-testified to shots coming from GK-railroad area west of depository

ALLMAN, PIERCE ….TSBD intersection

BARNETT, WILLIAM EUGENE ….TSBD intersection

BENNETT, GLEN A. (after-@ 17:30 wrote in his notes on AF1 that he heard a first

shot, then he turned and saw a bullet hole in JFK back about "about 4" down

from the right shoulder. A second shot followed immediately and hit the right

rear high of the President's head." (he could not have turned his head fast

enough to see the same-noised first bullet hit so he heard a first bullet,

turned and saw the result of the second bullet into JFK's back then saw the

third bullet hit the head almost immediately after the second bullet); not

called to testify) ….TSBD intersection

BRANDT, ERNEST CARL (saw JFK immediately react to 1st of 3 shots BRANDT

remembered hearing when JFK raised his right hand to throat when JFK was just

past BRANDT & 15' away in about a 1 o‘clock position relative to BRANDT)

….TSBD intersection

BRENNAN, HOWARD LESLIE (could not see JFK after Zf-252/253 but stated he saw

the headshot explosion after he watched the east window TSBD assassin fire his

final shot) ….TSBD

BURROWS, FRANCINE ….TSBD intersection

CONNALLY Jr., JOHN BOWDEN ….TSBD intersection

FOSTER, TONI ….TSBD intersection (heard 4 shots)

HESTER, CHARLES ….TSBD intersection (in his FBI statement it sounds like he

saw JFK slump THEN he remembered hearing 2 additional shots)

HICKEY Jr., GEORGE W. (stated he turned to his right after 1st audible muzzle

blast=turn started @ Zf-195 & stated after he turned back towards JFK that 2

shots rang out "in such rapid succession that there seemed to be practically no

time element between them."=in ALTGENS@Zf-255 HICKEY is still facing

rearward) ….TSBD intersection

HUDSON, EMMETT JOSEPH (heard shots come over his head fired from behind him

and above; said in 11-26 FBI statement that the 1st shot he heard hit the head,

then 2 more shots followed in "rapid succession") ….TSBD intersection

JACKS, HURCHEL ….TSBD intersection

JOHNSON, LYNDON BAINES ….TSBD intersection

KILDUFF, MALCOLM "Max" MAXWELL ….TSBD intersection

KIVETT JERRY D. ….TSBD intersection

LACY, JAMES ….TSBD intersection

LAWRENCE, PATRICIA ANN (Miss) ….TSBD intersection (above her)

MARTIN Jr., JOHN H. ….TSBD intersection

ROMACK, JAMES ELLIOT ….TSBD intersection

SANDERS, PAULINE (Mrs. ROBERT E.) ….TSBD intersection (above her)

SHELTON, KEITH ….TSBD intersection

SMITH, ALAN ….TSBD intersection

SWEATT, ALLAN ….TSBD intersection

TAYLOR, WARREN W. "Woody" (stated he put his left foot out of the Secret

Service vice presidential follow-up car onto Elm Street BEFORE he heard the

last 2 shots he remembered hearing but in the ALTGENS photo at Zf-255 his left

foot is not yet seen touching Elm Street) ….TSBD intersection

TOWNER, TINA ….TSBD intersection

WILLIAMS, BONNIE RAY (not sure where 1st shot from because he was not paying

attention but said 2nd & 3rd from TSBD (above); did not hear shells hitting

floor; 11-22-63 statement says 2 shots above) after-only black man visible in

the POWELL photo; before-ate very close to "snipers lair" on 6th floor but did

not hear nor see anyone; in 11-23-63 FBI statement said he went to 6th floor

from 12:00-12:03 with his lunch but saw no one & went to 5th floor; in 1-16-64

FBI statement he said he ate on the 6th floor; glanced upwards during shots but

saw no one; changed the number of shots he heard to 3 in 3-19-64 FBI statement;

said he saw a DPD patrolman come on the 5th floor & look around while they were

standing at the west side of the 5th floor after the attack) ….TSBD

intersection

SUMMERS, MALCOLM ….TSBD intersection & GK

WILLIS, ROSEMARY ….TSBD intersection & GK

LANDIS, PAUL E. ….TSBD intersection then GK (behind JFK then from in front of

JFK)

MILLICAN, A. J. ….TSBD intersection & GK (TSBD then behind GK then pergola)

O'DONNELL, KENNETH "Ken" "Kenny" P. (after-in 1968 during a shared dinner he

told TIP O'NEIL that he felt sure that 2 of the shots came from behind the

fence & that he told the FBI that but the FBI told him it could not have

happened that way and that he was imagining things so O'DONNELL testified the

way the FBI wanted him to & O'NEILL said that DAVE POWERS was also at the same

dinner & agreed with what O'DONNELL said about there being GK shots) ….TSBD

intersection then from GK years afterward

TEMPLIN, JOHN (heard 3 shots with first two bunched closer than last two; said

1st definitely came from TSBD, 2nd from railroad yard and hit JFK in head &

sounded different and 3rd shot from TSBD with sequence lasting 6 seconds;

after-did a "Sixth Floor Museum" oral interview and said that "his" 1st shot

occurred when limo was 30' past himself; standing to BRANDT's left; BRANDT's

friend & business client; BRANDT said TEMPLIN said he heard 3 shots; TEMPLIN

also thought 1st shot was a cycle backfire; saw limo brake lights on; after-did

not go public with his claims until early 1990's) ….TSBD intersection then

railroad yard then TSBD intersection

CHANEY, JAMES M. ( in a 11-22-63 tv interview said that when he heard the first

shot it sounded like a motorcycle backfiring & he looked to his left & JFK

"looked back over his left shoulder" & it was CHANEY's 2nd shot that hit JFK in

the head; also said the firing was from "back over my right shoulder") ….TSBD

intersection ("back over right shoulder")

FOSTER, JAMES WILSON (saw bullet strike in south elm grass nr. sewer cement

apron corner; speaking with SIMMONS during attack start; in his FBI report of

3-25-64 he stated JFK's head exploded with the 2nd shot and he then heard a

third shot after that; said his 1st shot sounded like large firecracker;

testified no shots came from TOP ….TSBD intersection ("corner of Elm and

Houston")

MITCHELL, WILLIE ….TSBD intersection ("from the rear")

WILLIS, PHILLIP LaFRANCE ….TSBD intersection ("high")

SITZMAN, MARILYN ….TSBD intersection ("leftward" relative to SITZMAN)

READY, JOHN "Jack" D. ….TSBD intersection ("right rear")

LEWIS, RAY "Roy" EDWARD ….TSBD intersection ("above")

GREER, WILLIAM ROBERT ….TSBD intersection (behind)

JOHNSON, "LADYBIRD" CLAUDIA ALTA (nee TAYLOR) ….TSBD intersection (above her right shoulder)

BAKER, MARION L. ….TSBD intersection (from TSBD "or the one across to the

right of it" = Dal-Tex)

BREHM, CHARLES F. (around 12:45-1:00 pm while still standing in DP BREHM was

quoted by "DTH" reporter as saying shots came from in front or beside JFK;

years later BREHM changed to shots came from TSBD intersection; said JFK 30'

away at 1st shot when JOE waved then JFK waved & was shot & reacted towards

throat then "slumped down in the seat" & 20'-25' away @ 2nd shot when JFK was

shot in head and "hair went flying" & "he slumped all the way down"; saw

"whatever it was" (head fragment) "move left & back" and land "in the area of

the curb" or "into" the curb; heard 3rd shot after headshot; at the "Showtime"

trial testified that the shots came from either the TSBD or Dal-tex; also

stated the 3rd shot BREHM heard missed and was the reason BREHM threw his son

on ground and covered him protectively) ….initially stated GK then later

changed to TSBD intersection (one of two buildings at the corner of Elm and

Houston = either TSBD or Dal-Tex)

UNDERWOOD, JAMES ROBERT (after-went back to TSBD front and talked with

EUINS & EUINS said he saw a black man shooting; WC-testimony implies even

spacing but told TRASK #2 & 3 were bunched) ….TSBD intersection (overhead)

KELLERMAN, ROY K. (testified that the assassination ended in a rapid flurry of

shots that sounded like a sonic boom quickness one shot right after the other)

….TSBD intersection (right)

CONNALLY, NELLIE (actually "Idanell") (nee BRILL) (shot #1 JFK (in 2003 she

described it as a cycle making a terrible backfire noise); shot #2 JBC; shot #3

JFK) wrote out the 22 pages of notes for her 2003 book "From Love Field" after

CONNALLY left PH some 7 to 12 days after being shot; in 2003 an article about

her said she still had one of JOHN's cufflinks from 11-22-63 that was made from

a Mexican peso & that the other 11-22-63 cufflink HAD BEEN SHOT OFF) ….TSBD

intersection (right rear)

HILL, CLINTON "Clint" J. (middle initial "J" may stand for "Jay") (heard the

2nd shot he remembered hearing come from the right but not for sure from the

rear as he was running to limo & stated that shot sounded noticeably different

than this 1st shot because it had a fast double sound to it with a tinge of a

metallic sound; heard his 1st shot when SS followup car was straightening out

and he was looking to his left which sounded like a firecracker that came from

his right rear and he immediately looked back to his right and saw JFK grab his

throat and slump forward and left; he thought JACKIE was reaching for something

falling off the right rear of the limo and that maybe he saw that something

also; after-in limousine and at PH he observed the right rear portion of the

head missing; also requested to view the body at BH where he saw back wound to

right of spine and 6" below neckline and saw the front neck wound) ….TSBD

intersection (right rear)

YOUNGBLOOD, RUFUS WAYNE "Jack" (during-@ 12:30 smelled gunpowder

(according to letter to PALAMARA) & heard shots from TSBD intersection then

before the 2nd shot he remembered hearing he turned and pushed LBJ down yet

in the ALTGENS photo taken at Z-255 he and LBJ are still sitting upright) ….TSBD

intersection (right rear)

YARBOROUGH, RALPH WEBSTER (during-@ 12:30 smelled gunpowder; first stated

1st two shots were bunched but warrenatti statement says that last 2 shots were

bunched with 3 seconds between 1st & 2nd and 1.5 seconds between 2nd & 3rd)

….TSBD intersection

ATKINS, THOMAS "Ollie" (during-@ 12:30 heard shots from in front of him but he

thought they were coming from crowd level; "Although I did not look up at the

building, I could hear everything quite clearly....the shots came from below

and off to the right side from where I was. I never thought the shots came from

above. They did not sound like shots coming from anything higher than street

level." ….TSBD or Dal-Tex

FRANZEN, JOAN (saw blood cloud from limo then heard 2 more shots; saw blood

on JFK's head with last 2 shots; did not look at TSBD & thought shots came from an

area adjacent to the TSBD) ….TSBD or "area adjacent to TSBD" (either

intersection or GK pergola)

DOUGHERTY, JACK EDWIN (@ 07:55 saw nothing in OSWALD's hand when

OSWALD arrived for work) ….TSBD ("inside")

HINE, GENEVA L. ( testified she did not see REID where REID said she was on the

TSBD 1st floor at the time REID said she was there; testified that shortly

before limo entered DP that the electric and phones went dead in TSBD) ….TSBD

("inside")

NORMAN, HAROLD "Hank," "Shorty" D. (heard the 1st shot he remembered

hearing come from above him & saw the President slump after that 1st shot;

heard 3 shots & 3 "clicks" of what he assumed to be a rifle bolt recycling & 3

shell cartridges hitting the floor from directly above him; in the "Showtime"

trial he would not say he heard the muzzle blasts directly above him-just that

he heard them as being above his ears & he heard what he presumed to be the

rifle recycling manually & the ejected shells pinging on floor; told FBI he

stuck his head out the window after the 1st shot and looked upward but saw

nothing because particles of something fell into his eyes before the 2nd & 3rd

shots he heard; had lunch at 12:00 in "domino room"; ….TSBD ("inside")

PIPER, EDWARD "Eddie" ….TSBD-"inside"

REID, CAROLYN (Mrs. ROBERT A.) (during- with TRULY & O.CAMPBELL & said she

thought shots came "from our building" but heard someone else say the shots

came from "farther down the street"; on 11-26-63 her statement reads the shots

she heard came "from overhead" but not specifically from her building; HINE

testified that she did not see REID where REID said she was at the time REID

said she was on TSBD 1st floor; ….TSBD ("our building")

POWELL, JOHN ….TSBD (he & others he stated were with him saw 2 men in

"snipers air" before attack)

COUCH, MALCOLM "Mal" O. ….TSBD

EUINS, AMOS LEE ….TSBD (heard 4 shots)

TERRY, L. R. ….TSBD (saw 2 men)

WORRELL Jr., JAMES RICHARD (saw man run out TSBD back door within 2

minutes of last shot) ….TSBD (heard 4 shots)

BROWN, EARLE V. ….TSBD (smelled gunpowder)

CABELL, ELIZABETH "Dearie" ….TSBD (smelled gunpowder)

DILLARD, THOMAS "Tom" CLINTON ….TSBD (smelled gunpowder)

WILLIS, LINDA KAY ....COULD NOT TELL (to warrenatti), then GK (to HSCA)

HOEFEN, JOHN (in Cam Car #1; heard 3 or 4 shots; during a radio report he said

"there was a loud shot-at first we thought it was from some teenagers-and it

was immediately followed by 2 or 3 more.") ….NO OPINION

RICKERBY, ARTHUR "Art" BURROUGHS (in Cam Car #2; heard more than 3 shots;

his widow WANDA told PALAMARA that he heard more shots than was reported by

all the press (the press mostly reported 3 shots); after-his widow told PALAMARA

he disagreed with the number of shots reported in the press) ….NO OPINION

SPEAKER, SANDY (construction worker with BRENNAN; heard 5 shots from less

than half block away) …..NO OPINION

ORR, MAURICE (heard 5 shots) ….NOT ASKED

"Johnny's Husband" (man) (during attack supposedly saw shooter on GK; he was

standing on a "platform" & witnessed GK assassin his rifle & saw assassin

shoot; he is husband of woman named "Johnny" who M.L. GRIFFITH posted on

newsgroup that GRIFFITH’s mother overheard in Houston in 1983) ….GK

"seen in ALTGENS@255-"dark raincoat man" Elm + Houston at south end of curve

of people near northeast corner of Elm & Houston seen in ALTGENS Zf-255 just

below BREHM's clapping hands and he seems to be looking towards TSBD; ….TSBD

intersection

"seen in ALTGENS@255-"intersection boy" Elm + Houston at south end of curve of

people near northeast corner of Elm & Houston seen in ALTGENS Zf-255 just below

BREHM's clapping hands and he seems to be looking towards TSBD; just behind

the rear of the SS-VP car ….TSBD intersection

"seen in ALTGENS@255-"intersection woman" Elm + Houston at south end of curve

of people near northeast corner of Elm & Houston seen in ALTGENS Zf-255 just

below BREHM's clapping hands and he seems to be looking towards TSBD ….TSBD

intersection

"white cowboy hat man" seen in DARNELL film looking upwards towards the TSBD;

hat seen in ALTGENS@255 just to right of HARGIS's helmet ….TSBD intersection

Don

CV-67, "Big John," USS John F. Kennedy Plank Walker

Sooner, or later, the Truth emerges Clearly

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E veryone

A chieves

M ore

"(D)rehm (sic) seemed to think the shots came from in FRONT OF or BESIDE the

President." (my EMPHASIS)

----CHARLES F. BREHM, a gunfire-battle experienced, WWII D-day, United States

Army Ranger veteran, quoted just minutes after the attack while still standing

within Dealey Plaza, "Dallas Times Herald," 11-22-63, final edition

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"seen in ALTGENS@255-"dark raincoat man" Elm + Houston at south end of curve

of people near northeast corner of Elm & Houston seen in ALTGENS Zf-255 just

below BREHM's clapping hands and he seems to be looking towards TSBD; ….TSBD

intersection

"seen in ALTGENS@255-"intersection boy" Elm + Houston at south end of curve of

people near northeast corner of Elm & Houston seen in ALTGENS Zf-255 just below

BREHM's clapping hands and he seems to be looking towards TSBD; just behind

the rear of the SS-VP car ….TSBD intersection

"seen in ALTGENS@255-"intersection woman" Elm + Houston at south end of curve

of people near northeast corner of Elm & Houston seen in ALTGENS Zf-255 just

below BREHM's clapping hands and he seems to be looking towards TSBD ….TSBD

intersection

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