David Purcell Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Gordon Novel is currently stating that he only investigated the JFK assassination and that the CIA was not involved although it was a conspiracy. I have an affidavit from Novel's trial in New Orleans in the 70's where he states that he was part of the conspiracy. I also have a copy of a letter in which he states that Richard Helms and Howard Osborn planned the assassination and that Slew Montgomery was on the knoll and Larry Blanscet was the backup assassin. It appears that Novel is an extremely creative xxxx and that he only made these charges when he was trying to get out of prison. Among other things, he states in the letter that Slew Montgomery, the rifleman on the knoll, used a bullet made of fused depleted uranium that disintegrated on impact. I would like to find out if there is any credibility to what Novel was saying then as opposed to now. Can anyone shed any light on Novel's motives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hogan Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Gordon Novel is currently stating that he only investigated the JFK assassination and that the CIA was not involved although it was a conspiracy. I have an affidavit from Novel's trial in New Orleans in the 70's where he states that he was part of the conspiracy. I also have a copy of a letter in which he states that Richard Helms and Howard Osborn planned the assassination and that Slew Montgomery was on the knoll and Larry Blanscet was the backup assassin. It appears that Novel is an extremely creative xxxx and that he only made these charges when he was trying to get out of prison. Among other things, he states in the letter that Slew Montgomery, the rifleman on the knoll, used a bullet made of fused depleted uranium that disintegrated on impact. I would like to find out if there is any credibility to what Novel was saying then as opposed to now. Can anyone shed any light on Novel's motives? If anyone feels the need to be driven insane, then research Gordon Novel. He is one of the more bizarre individuals one could encounter. He had solid connections to Mitch WerBell, Clay Shaw, John DeLorean, Larry Flynt, Carlos Marcello, plus his name pops up in things like UFO research, the Oklahoma City bombing, Waco, plus a multitude of other controversial happenings. I saw an interview with him on the History Channel not so long ago where he claimed Carlos Marcello showed him the photographs of Hoover and Tolson in somewhat of a compromising situation. I believe it was Mary Ferrell who made the comment that Novel was the most dangerous man in America. FWIW. James Novel once phoned me long distance from Florida, berating me for saying he was the Umbrellaman. He talked for 45 minutes; I got in about a dozen words. His every third word was "mother______". He claimed that he was in a meeting at the Stork Club in New York at the time of the assassination, and had at least a dozen witnesses who would say so. He threatened to kill me, then changed his mind to suing me for a "mother_______ million dollars and ruining my life so I would suffer more than death." Mary Ferrell was on friendly terms with Novel and other such people, believing in the theory of the "Godfather"...be closer to your enemies than your friends. Mary played both sides of the street to gather her vast information. It was she and Robert Cutler who arranged a lie test for Novel about whether he was in the Plaza on 11-22. He flunked the test. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Roy Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 I know Novel. I really don't think he knows anything about the assassination. He likes to be mysterious, and Garrison elevated him to mysterious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Purcell Posted July 4, 2010 Author Share Posted July 4, 2010 Gordon Novel is currently stating that he only investigated the JFK assassination and that the CIA was not involved although it was a conspiracy. I have an affidavit from Novel's trial in New Orleans in the 70's where he states that he was part of the conspiracy. I also have a copy of a letter in which he states that Richard Helms and Howard Osborn planned the assassination and that Slew Montgomery was on the knoll and Larry Blanscet was the backup assassin. It appears that Novel is an extremely creative xxxx and that he only made these charges when he was trying to get out of prison. Among other things, he states in the letter that Slew Montgomery, the rifleman on the knoll, used a bullet made of fused depleted uranium that disintegrated on impact. I would like to find out if there is any credibility to what Novel was saying then as opposed to now. Can anyone shed any light on Novel's motives? If anyone feels the need to be driven insane, then research Gordon Novel. He is one of the more bizarre individuals one could encounter. He had solid connections to Mitch WerBell, Clay Shaw, John DeLorean, Larry Flynt, Carlos Marcello, plus his name pops up in things like UFO research, the Oklahoma City bombing, Waco, plus a multitude of other controversial happenings. I saw an interview with him on the History Channel not so long ago where he claimed Carlos Marcello showed him the photographs of Hoover and Tolson in somewhat of a compromising situation. I believe it was Mary Ferrell who made the comment that Novel was the most dangerous man in America. FWIW. James Novel once phoned me long distance from Florida, berating me for saying he was the Umbrellaman. He talked for 45 minutes; I got in about a dozen words. His every third word was "mother______". He claimed that he was in a meeting at the Stork Club in New York at the time of the assassination, and had at least a dozen witnesses who would say so. He threatened to kill me, then changed his mind to suing me for a "mother_______ million dollars and ruining my life so I would suffer more than death." Mary Ferrell was on friendly terms with Novel and other such people, believing in the theory of the "Godfather"...be closer to your enemies than your friends. Mary played both sides of the street to gather her vast information. It was she and Robert Cutler who arranged a lie test for Novel about whether he was in the Plaza on 11-22. He flunked the test. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Purcell Posted July 4, 2010 Author Share Posted July 4, 2010 I thought that Cutler was claiming that Novel was the umbrella man, shooting a poisoned flechette into JFK's throat. Not that I believe that but that is what Cutler said in one of his little magazines. It says nothing about a lie detector test. I really don't attach much credibility to Novel or Cutler. Is Cutler still living? He'd be over a hundred but I can't find an obituary for him or any mention of him since he closed his museum in Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Gordon Novel is currently stating that he only investigated the JFK assassination and that the CIA was not involved although it was a conspiracy. I have an affidavit from Novel's trial in New Orleans in the 70's where he states that he was part of the conspiracy. I also have a copy of a letter in which he states that Richard Helms and Howard Osborn planned the assassination and that Slew Montgomery was on the knoll and Larry Blanscet was the backup assassin. It appears that Novel is an extremely creative xxxx and that he only made these charges when he was trying to get out of prison. Among other things, he states in the letter that Slew Montgomery, the rifleman on the knoll, used a bullet made of fused depleted uranium that disintegrated on impact. I would like to find out if there is any credibility to what Novel was saying then as opposed to now. Can anyone shed any light on Novel's motives? If anyone feels the need to be driven insane, then research Gordon Novel. He is one of the more bizarre individuals one could encounter. He had solid connections to Mitch WerBell, Clay Shaw, John DeLorean, Larry Flynt, Carlos Marcello, plus his name pops up in things like UFO research, the Oklahoma City bombing, Waco, plus a multitude of other controversial happenings. I saw an interview with him on the History Channel not so long ago where he claimed Carlos Marcello showed him the photographs of Hoover and Tolson in somewhat of a compromising situation. I believe it was Mary Ferrell who made the comment that Novel was the most dangerous man in America. FWIW. James Novel once phoned me long distance from Florida, berating me for saying he was the Umbrellaman. He talked for 45 minutes; I got in about a dozen words. His every third word was "mother______". He claimed that he was in a meeting at the Stork Club in New York at the time of the assassination, and had at least a dozen witnesses who would say so. He threatened to kill me, then changed his mind to suing me for a "mother_______ million dollars and ruining my life so I would suffer more than death." Mary Ferrell was on friendly terms with Novel and other such people, believing in the theory of the "Godfather"...be closer to your enemies than your friends. Mary played both sides of the street to gather her vast information. It was she and Robert Cutler who arranged a lie test for Novel about whether he was in the Plaza on 11-22. He flunked the test. Jack JR wrote: ....(re: Novel) "....I saw an interview with him on the History Channel not so long ago where he claimed Carlos Marcello showed him the photographs of Hoover and Tolson in somewhat of a compromising situation." I thought Ernie Lazar said that such a picture didn't exist. He said that if it did, we'd all see it. Ernie claimed the mob didn't have the goods on Hover, and that he just concentrated on Commies instead of the mob because he thought they were more important. Now Gordon Novel comes along and tells the History Channel he's SEEN the photo and Carlos Marcello showed it to him, and as we all know the History Channel has professional historians vetting the material that they show like they have the Kennedys script reviewed, so they can't be wrong. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=16074&pid=196601&st=0& - entry196601 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 FWIW I remember seeing a close-up picture of Hoover performing oral sex on someone (presumably Tolson) in some girlie magazine back in the 1960s. If it was one of the alleged photos in the hands of the Mafia, I don't know how the magazine got it, but it certainly looked like Hoover. I mean, who else looked like Hoover but Hoover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 There isn't any doubt at all Gordon was a contract agent for the CIA prior to the Bay of Pigs. Novel was an extremely talented, maybe even brilliant, electronics wizard. Anyone who studies his career in any depth will understand this very soon. Its this ability which made him attractive to the CIA. He was involved with electronics communications prior to that operation and also with the Houma raid. This shows he had ties into the CIA built Cuban exile community in New Orleans. There is no doubt he knew Banister and Ferrie and Shaw by 1961. When the Garrison investigation began, prior to its exposure in the press, its pretty clear from many sources that Novel was sent in via a front guy named Willard Robertson, part of Truth and Consequences. And he volunteered to be Garrison's security expert. But prior to this, he had already been meeting with Walter Sheridan and the CIA. He was quite well paid for his services as an undercover agent. And I saw a letter he wrote to Helms at this time. Garrison eventually found out he was a plant. And then the really interesting part begins. Novel fled to Ohio, but he first stopped in Maryland where he was given a "lie detector" test by Sheridan's phony technicians. Then once in Ohio, he began to cooperate with the Mockingbird elements that were arranged to tar Garrison. I actually talked to someone who knew the guy who safe housed him in Ohio. James Angleton got him to file suit against Garrison in the CIA's effort to smear JG after his effective Playboy interview. As Novel revealed in his lawsuit deposition, which I have, mysterious agencies compensated his legal team which once accounted to four big time lawyers from all over the country. The judge eventually threw out his lawsuit. But there were some interesting things revealed in his deposition. Like a New Orleans telethon for the Cubans coordinated by a guy who fits the description of David Phillips. Something happened to Gordon after this. Its very hard to figure out. But at one time in the early seventies, he was living like a king in New Orleans. Then the bottom fell out for him. Its a very complex matrix that followed. And anyone who tells you they know what happened is talking through their hat. BTW, although I once suspected he was the Umbrella Man, I don't anymore. PS To show you what an electronics wizard he was, when he was being safe housed in Ohio, there was an undercover car outside watching him. This annoyed Gordon. He had the guy who owned the house go to an electronics shop nearby. It was a very short shopping list of maybe five items. Once Gordon got them back, he worked them together for about 8-10 minutes. They were then listening to the guys in the car outside. Jim...why do you no longer think Novel was the umbrella man? Robert Cutler did. Mary Ferrell did. Gary Shaw did. Penn Jones did. I do. Interested in your reason. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 (edited) I thought that Cutler was claiming that Novel was the umbrella man, shooting a poisoned flechette into JFK's throat. Not that I believe that but that is what Cutler said in one of his little magazines. It says nothing about a lie detector test. I really don't attach much credibility to Novel or Cutler. Is Cutler still living? He'd be over a hundred but I can't find an obituary for him or any mention of him since he closed his museum in Dallas. Cutler died after a long session of Alzheimer's. He described the lie test Novel took and flunked in his book ALIAS OSWALD. Mary Ferrell arranged for Novel to take the test. I believe he was incarcerated at the time. Jack Edited July 4, 2010 by Jack White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 (edited) In profile it does resemble him. But in other fuller shots it does not. The other reason is that he actually gave me a list of about four people to call one night as to where he was when JFK was killed. This was when me and Lisa Pease met him. None of them were CIA guys. Jack, you don't need Gordon to make the Umbrella Man an interesting character. And vica-versa, Gordon does not have to be the Umbrella Man to be a compelling character. I too had a 45 minute conversation (monolog) with Novel in which he several times threatened to kill me. I suppose that he gave you and Lisa his Stork Club party alibi and Sherman Billingsly as one of his alibi witnesses. Tales told by a suspect are suspect. I am more impressed by the things Mary Ferrell told me about him. I am impressed by the lie detector test. I am more impressed by photo comparisons which look like him. I am impressed that they found a phony lookalike for him (Witt). Novel certainly had other connections to the plot, so why not DP too? Jack Edited July 4, 2010 by Jack White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Mauro Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 In profile it does resemble him. But in other fuller shots it does not. The other reason is that he actually gave me a list of about four people to call one night as to where he was when JFK was killed. This was when me and Lisa Pease met him. None of them were CIA guys. Jack, you don't need Gordon to make the Umbrella Man an interesting character. And vica-versa, Gordon does not have to be the Umbrella Man to be a compelling character. Jim, This is off topic but I wanted to thank you for the expose you did regarding "Farewell America" on Rich Dellarosa's website back in Y2000? You did a masterful job. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 There isn't any doubt at all Gordon was a contract agent for the CIA prior to the Bay of Pigs. Novel was an extremely talented, maybe even brilliant, electronics wizard. Anyone who studies his career in any depth will understand this very soon. Its this ability which made him attractive to the CIA. He was involved with electronics communications prior to that operation and also with the Houma raid. This shows he had ties into the CIA built Cuban exile community in New Orleans. There is no doubt he knew Banister and Ferrie and Shaw by 1961. When the Garrison investigation began, prior to its exposure in the press, its pretty clear from many sources that Novel was sent in via a front guy named Willard Robertson, part of Truth and Consequences. And he volunteered to be Garrison's security expert. But prior to this, he had already been meeting with Walter Sheridan and the CIA. He was quite well paid for his services as an undercover agent. And I saw a letter he wrote to Helms at this time. Garrison eventually found out he was a plant. And then the really interesting part begins. Novel fled to Ohio, but he first stopped in Maryland where he was given a "lie detector" test by Sheridan's phony technicians. Then once in Ohio, he began to cooperate with the Mockingbird elements that were arranged to tar Garrison. I actually talked to someone who knew the guy who safe housed him in Ohio. James Angleton got him to file suit against Garrison in the CIA's effort to smear JG after his effective Playboy interview. As Novel revealed in his lawsuit deposition, which I have, mysterious agencies compensated his legal team which once accounted to four big time lawyers from all over the country. The judge eventually threw out his lawsuit. But there were some interesting things revealed in his deposition. Like a New Orleans telethon for the Cubans coordinated by a guy who fits the description of David Phillips. Something happened to Gordon after this. Its very hard to figure out. But at one time in the early seventies, he was living like a king in New Orleans. Then the bottom fell out for him. Its a very complex matrix that followed. And anyone who tells you they know what happened is talking through their hat. BTW, although I once suspected he was the Umbrella Man, I don't anymore. PS To show you what an electronics wizard he was, when he was being safe housed in Ohio, there was an undercover car outside watching him. This annoyed Gordon. He had the guy who owned the house go to an electronics shop nearby. It was a very short shopping list of maybe five items. Once Gordon got them back, he worked them together for about 8-10 minutes. They were then listening to the guys in the car outside. So this is the guy who told Dick Russell and apparently others that JFK was shot from the Grassy Knoll by one Slew Montgomery, and that Larry Blancet was with him? And who is Slew Montgomery and Larry Blancet? Does anyone know? Thanks, BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 There isn't any doubt at all Gordon was a contract agent for the CIA prior to the Bay of Pigs. Novel was an extremely talented, maybe even brilliant, electronics wizard. Anyone who studies his career in any depth will understand this very soon. Its this ability which made him attractive to the CIA. He was involved with electronics communications prior to that operation and also with the Houma raid. This shows he had ties into the CIA built Cuban exile community in New Orleans. There is no doubt he knew Banister and Ferrie and Shaw by 1961. When the Garrison investigation began, prior to its exposure in the press, its pretty clear from many sources that Novel was sent in via a front guy named Willard Robertson, part of Truth and Consequences. And he volunteered to be Garrison's security expert. But prior to this, he had already been meeting with Walter Sheridan and the CIA. He was quite well paid for his services as an undercover agent. And I saw a letter he wrote to Helms at this time. Garrison eventually found out he was a plant. And then the really interesting part begins. Novel fled to Ohio, but he first stopped in Maryland where he was given a "lie detector" test by Sheridan's phony technicians. Then once in Ohio, he began to cooperate with the Mockingbird elements that were arranged to tar Garrison. I actually talked to someone who knew the guy who safe housed him in Ohio. James Angleton got him to file suit against Garrison in the CIA's effort to smear JG after his effective Playboy interview. As Novel revealed in his lawsuit deposition, which I have, mysterious agencies compensated his legal team which once accounted to four big time lawyers from all over the country. The judge eventually threw out his lawsuit. But there were some interesting things revealed in his deposition. Like a New Orleans telethon for the Cubans coordinated by a guy who fits the description of David Phillips. Something happened to Gordon after this. Its very hard to figure out. But at one time in the early seventies, he was living like a king in New Orleans. Then the bottom fell out for him. Its a very complex matrix that followed. And anyone who tells you they know what happened is talking through their hat. BTW, although I once suspected he was the Umbrella Man, I don't anymore. PS To show you what an electronics wizard he was, when he was being safe housed in Ohio, there was an undercover car outside watching him. This annoyed Gordon. He had the guy who owned the house go to an electronics shop nearby. It was a very short shopping list of maybe five items. Once Gordon got them back, he worked them together for about 8-10 minutes. They were then listening to the guys in the car outside. So this is the guy who told Dick Russell and apparently others that JFK was shot from the Grassy Knoll by one Slew Montgomery, and that Larry Blancet was with him? And who is Slew Montgomery and Larry Blancet? Does anyone know? Thanks, BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Purcell Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 It's heartening to see this flow of information concerning someone who may well have either participated or have knowledge of the JFK assassination. The only information that I have on Slew Montgomery is that he's dead. The FBI may have a file on him. Other than Novel saying that Montgomery was the GN rifleman using an uranium bullet I've never encountered his name or Blanscet's in connection with the JFK assassination. As I said, Montgomery's name is mentioned nowhere and an internet search didn't turn anything up. Cutler, at least at one point, believed Novel to be the umbrella man. The lie detector test that has been mentioned I'd like to be clear on that. Was there 2? The one Mr. DiEugenio cites as the phony one set up by the CIA or is there another one given by Cutler? Cutler's prose and diagrams are, to say the least, cryptic. He does emphatically state, in the material I have, that the umbrella man fired a poisoned flechette at JFK and that this missile actually killed JFK. These pamphlets or newsletters are undated so that I can't put a time frame on them in reference to a lie detector test. Novel mentioned that he'd invented an anti-gravity machine and that, along with his involvement with UFO's and aliens, caused me to doubt his credibility about JFK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 The lie test is covered in ALIAS OSWALD, though not fully. It was arranged by Mary Ferrell, and I think that the JFK-AIC (Cutler, Shaw, Howard and Harris) was involved. It was done by a professional. The key question flunked by Novel was WERE YOU IN DEALEY PLAZA ON 11-22-63? Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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