Hatred and overall mean-ness

[David S. Brownlee]

I watched the "24 Hours after" show on the History Channel the other night (again) figuring I wouldn't get anything out of it...factually I didn't, but I took a different approach this time. I figured - what if Occam's razor is true in the JFK assasination. What if all the logical things were in fact reality. What if it really was a stone-cold hit engineered by texas oil (birchers) who hated Kennedy. What if the CIA was involved and coordinated it through the mafia to get the best shooter on the grassy knoll. What if there were coordinated efforts between the CIA/Mafia factions and the FBI. What if J. Edgar (a known Kennedy hater) had been in on it all along - maybe even been one of the engineers. What if J. Edgar (or others of his ilk) had a tap on the telephone to the Kennedy residence. What if the Kennedy's WERE arrogant and made fun of the Johnsons. What if Jaqueline laughed about "Lady Bird" and thought her a hick. What if JFK/RFK said bad things about LBJ and it was a real possibilty that he might be left off the ticket in 1964.

It would be easy to see how LBJ would go along with a pre-set assaination...yet..there were so many clues that this was not only a killing - this was a "stick it up yer arse" killing. Jacqueline was brought to the swaering in on the plane - still in fully blooded clothing. LBJ called JFKs Mom and then after talking let Lady Bird talk to her (we're praying with you")...conversation cut short by the Mom of the murdered son.

While I figure LBJ and Lady Bird knew all about this Dallas setup - I am curious about one thing. LBJ didn't want Conally in the car - he wanted Yarbrough - glitch...did Conally's wife actually have the guts to say to Jacky (or hate her that much) "well Mrs. Kennedy..you can't say Dallas doensn't love you now" - knowing that the shot from the grassy knoll was forthcoming...hard to say...but I've seen tape of southern women being as stern/mean as ever when it came to race relations in the south. Truth is - the undergraduates at "Ole Miss" University were blowing their horns and celebrating on the green that day. (documented fact).

[John Dolva]

In just about any list of current hypothesis' a hate crime (imo race-economy, ie poss seen as an unsolved civil roghts crime, thus other avenues to force a reopening of the case) is absent. None of the other have yielded a conclusive result, yet they are fervently pursued. If the same energy was put into mississippi, alabama, louisiana, oklahoma, georgia, california connections then maybe yes, occams razor is the key. Like Emmett Tills mother said ten years earlier when her son was laying in wait (to those who wanted a closed coffin), because of his horrible disfigurement, Jackie refused to change out of her blood stained clothing with : ''Let them see what they have done''.

[David S. Brownlee]

Agreed JD -

''Let them see what they have done''....and later she said "they are killing Kennedys" in this country - just prior to leaving and after the RFK assasination.

Quote from the Salina Journal (Kansas) from NYT (Raymond Anderson)

(Moscow - c) "Barbarians" Russia Shouts!

What a frightening country Muscovites exclaimed Wednesday when they learned of the shooting of Senator Robert F. Kennedy. "Barbarians!" shouted a young Russian intellectual when the first report was broadcast. "All you Americans can do is shoot one another" said a middle aged woman who works in the downtown Moscow office.

For many Russians the killing of (RFK) seemed to confirm the widespread impression of the United States as a land of deep internal hostilities, violence, and sinister political intrigues.

Muscovites approached in the streets and parks expressed a belief that the shooting of Senator Kennedy was another development of a broad rightwing political conspiracy that, in their view, was also behind the assasination of President John F. Kennedy in 1963.

"Someone does not want Senator Kennedy to carry on the policies of his brother" said a 40 year old man from Leningrad. Most Russians are convinced that the murder of (JFK) was a result of a rightwing conspiracy. They scorn the Warren Commission findings that (he) was shot by Lee Harvey Oswald,...a simple left wing malcontent...

President Kennedy was admired in the Soviet Union, particularly in the last months of his life following the American University speech in the summer of 1963 urging friendly relations between the US and the Soviet Union. Many Russians cried when they learned of his assasination...................." © NYT

[John Dolva]

I think another way to look at it is to see the deep divisions within the research community, it's like an expreession of that rancour .In a sense the state of affairs is a mirror to the force behind the assassination.

[Pat Speer]

I think another way to look at it is to see the deep divisions within the research community, it's like an expreession of that rancour .In a sense the state of affairs is a mirror to the force behind the assassination.

The civil rights movement started a culture war in this country that took full flight in the Vietnam era and continues to this day, with minorities and lefties on one side, and God-fearing gun-loving Christians on the other. Just a few days ago I used a public restroom with a picture of Jane Fonda (Hanoi Jane) glued onto the back of the urinal. Sorry, Jane.