Jump to content
The Education Forum

Ventura claims to have a signed confession


Brian Benson
 Share

Recommended Posts

Jesse Ventura, speaking on the Stephanie Miller national radio show, says that he has a signed confession in the JFK assassination. He says a "known" individual confessed both verbally and in writting. The condition being that the confession must be made public. Ventura says he will reveal the confession on his show airing tonight, 11/19.

Jesse is making the rounds on talk shows this morning to promote it, so he will like be on other outlets.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sounds like his confession might be the one from E. Howard Hunt..

Good call Norman

Thats the first thing that popped into my head, its not anything new nor earth shattering

E Howard Hunt is full of it

I bet JVB dated EHH

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest James H. Fetzer

Where what Hunt has to say fits in with the rest of our knowledge about the assassination. See, for

example, my review of Vince Bugliosi's book and discussion at http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v5n1.html

I love it when "researchers" draw conclusions without bothering to study the evidence or watch the program.

Link to video of Ventura on Fox News

Jesse Ventura Told Fox News "We Have Real JFK Assassin Death Bed Confession."

About 3 minutes into the interview

Sounds like his confession might be the one from E. Howard Hunt..

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • We already have non-credible confessions
  • Ventura is a proven xxxx he claimed to have been a Navy Seal when in fact he was a member of the the Underwater Demolition Team.

BUD/S (Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL) Training

BUD/S is a 6-month SEAL training course held at the Naval Special Warfare Training Center in Coronado, CA. You’ll start with five weeks Indoctrination and Pre-Training as part of a Navy SEAL Class, then go through the Three Phases of BUD/S. First Phase is the toughest. It consists of 8 weeks of Basic Conditioning that peaks with a grueling segment called “Hell Week” at the midway point, where you’ll be tested to your limits.

Hell Week is a test of physical endurance, mental tenacity and true teamwork where 2/3 or more of your class may call it quits or “ring the bell ”. Physical discomfort and pain will cause many to decide it isn’t worth it. The miserable wet-cold approaching hypothermia will make others quit. Sheer fatigue and sleep deprivation will cause every candidate to question his core values, motivations, limits, and everything he’s made of and stands for. Those who grit it out to the finish will hear their Instructors yell the longed-for words, “Hell Week is secured!”

There will be an exceptional few with burning desire who persevere when their bodies are screaming to quit, yet continue on. These men experience a tremendous sense of pride, achievement, brotherhood and a new self-awareness that, “I can do anything!!” The most outstanding among them -- that man whose sheer force of example inspires his classmates to keep going when they’re ready to quit – is the “Honor Man” of the Class.

These determined men will proceed on to Second Phase (8 weeks of Diving) and Third Phase (9 weeks of Land Warfare). Most men who have succeeded in Hell Week make it through these phases. If not, it’s usually due to academic issues (e.g., dive physics) in the Dive Phase, or weapons and demolitions safety/competency issues in the Land Warfare (weapons and tactics) Phase. After BUDS is completed, trainees go through 3 weeks of Basic Parachute Training.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to video of Ventura on Fox News

Jesse Ventura Told Fox News "We Have Real JFK Assassin Death Bed Confession."

About 3 minutes into the interview

Sounds like his confession might be the one from E. Howard Hunt..

You are right. I saw most of the show. E. Howard Hunt, very old, lying down with a camera on him and a tape recorder going. He said he would confess to the Assassination as long as it was put on TV to the public. I would like to watch the show again, as I was flipping channels to find something interesting and came across this.

Kathy C

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • We already have non-credible confessions
  • Ventura is a proven xxxx he claimed to have been a Navy Seal when in fact he was a member of the the Underwater Demolition Team.

BUD/S (Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL) Training

BUD/S is a 6-month SEAL training course held at the Naval Special Warfare Training Center in Coronado, CA. You’ll start with five weeks Indoctrination and Pre-Training as part of a Navy SEAL Class, then go through the Three Phases of BUD/S. First Phase is the toughest. It consists of 8 weeks of Basic Conditioning that peaks with a grueling segment called “Hell Week” at the midway point, where you’ll be tested to your limits.

Thought the UDT and SEALs went through the same basic training they were not the same thing until they were merged in 1983. Tink who was a member of the UDT can confirm this. Note that in Tink’s bios he is always referred to an ex-member of the UDT. Ventura’s defenders claim the difference is not important. But the person who brought this up was a former SEAL officer who served in Vietnam and Ventura’s own spokesman said “he is very forthcoming and accurate in terms of his relationship with the United States Navy. He talks about the fact that he was in the Underwater Demolition Team. In fact, he has corrected me in the past.”

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/1999/dec/02/jesse-great-pretender-ventura/

http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/199912/14_kastem_seals/

Despite his spokesman’s denial Ventura said he had been a SEAL on numerous occasions:

Navy SEAL, union member, volunteer high school football coach, outdoorsman, husband of 23 years, father of two.

Ventura Campaign Ad

I'm a warrior at heart. I'm an ex-Navy SEAL.

The New York Times, October 31, 1998

And Mr. [Hulk] Hogan, I mean he wants to be me, anyway. He always--you know, he pretends to be a Navy SEAL; I was one.

Meet the Press, November 8, 1998

You know, I come from a little bit of a military background earlier in my life and we were always taught in the Navy SEAL team never to assume.

CNN Inside Politics, November 12, 1998

High Times: Was your wrestling career fun?

Ventura: It was exciting. And for me, an ex-Navy Seal, it was fun.

High Times, November, 1998

Ventura: I've been a Navy SEAL.

Maria Shriver: But, a Navy SEAL makes you ready to be Governor?

Ventura: Uh-huh. Yeah. Sure it does.

Maria Shriver: Where did you come up with that?

Ventura: It's easy--because I defy--because I worked with things in being a Navy SEAL that could kill me.

NBC Dateline, December 22, 1998

I'm also excited--you know, a lot of my old Navy SEAL buddies are here to see me get sworn in today.

CBS This Morning, January 4, 1999

I'm the top law enforcement officer in the state of Minnesota. I'm also the commander-in-chief of the National Guard. I'm an ex-Navy SEAL team member.

Meet The Press, February 21, 1999

"How did they know that about me -- how dangerous we truly can be?" We have a saying in the SEALs: we don't get mad, we get even.

National Press Club Speech, February 22, 1999

I'm the head of the state troopers, and the commander-in-chief of the National Guard. I'm also a former Navy SEAL.

CNN Late Edition, February 23, 1999

Tim Russert: Both your brother--your older brother and yourself, [were] Navy SEALs?

Ventura: Mm-hmm, yeah.

Tim Russert: You almost died twice, once as a Navy SEAL and once as a wrestler, with blood clots in your lungs.

Ventura: Well, I almost died more than that a couple times as a SEAL. That's only what I told about in the book.

Tim Russert Show, May 22, 1999

Last spring I rappelled down from the top of the Target Center before a Timberwolves game. But, you know, I am an ex-Navy SEAL and I was trained for you know, a full year and was very comfortable in that type of rappelling-type thing.

Larry King Live, May 24, 1999

I couldn't care less what a person's sexual orientation is, and I'm an ex-Navy SEAL.

The Advocate, May 1999

First of all, they should understand why a Navy SEAL doesn't wear underwear.

CBS This Morning , June 3, 1999

Larry King: You were a Navy SEAL?

Ventura: Yes.

Larry King: What was that like?

Ventura: Exciting. I did it at 18 years old to 22, 22-1/2. It was challenging. I would belong to no other unit The camaraderie is unbelievable.

Larry King Live, June 3, 1999

When I was a wrestler, I could pick up buildings. When I was a SEAL, I could scale them.

NPR's Fresh Air, June 3, 1999

Chris Matthews: When you were a--you were a SEAL, you must have been through amazingly scary moments with life and death.

Ventura: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Hardball with Chris Matthews at Harvard University, October 6, 1999

You're talking to an ex-Navy Seal here.

Playboy, November, 1999.

I was in the SEALs during the Vietnam War, so I experienced firsthand how we, as Americans, were affected by that conflict.

Rolling Stone, December 30, 1999

We're a proud organization. If anyone tries to pretend they're a SEAL, God help them.

Jesse Ventura Autobiography: I Ain't Got Time to Bleed

http://www.geekweek.com/2009/12/lets-clear-up-this-conspiracy-theory-first.html

His comment that “I was in the SEALs during the Vietnam War, so I experienced firsthand how we, as Americans, were affected by that conflict” was also misleading because as he later admitted he was never based in Vietnam or saw combat (and apparently never “went on clandestine or special operations where the risk of enemy fire was great or expected”). He was based in the Philippines and though he was awarded the Vietnam Service Medal he “refused to say whether he served in-country, offshore or both...[and] refused to say what he did to earn his Vietnam Service Medal. He also refused to reveal which platoon and which detachments he was in within UDT 12 - information that would allow reporters to find out about his missions in public documents”

http://web.archive.org/web/20020203035901/http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/1130195.html

And I was right his claim of having a confession was scam or highly misleading at the least the Hunt tape is nothing new.

Edited by Len Colby
Link to comment
Share on other sites

As an old Frog, let me see if I can straighten this out.

Underwater Demolition Teams were formed in World War II to perform a number of tasks: beach reconnaissance prior to landings; demolition of beach obstacles on the morning of the landing; commando and demolition raids. After the Cousteau-Gagnan aqualung was perfected in the late 1940s, UDT's took over a number of underwater tasks including: mini-submarines; general underwater work on the submarine detection system; limpet mine attacks on ships in harbor. In this capacity, UDTs were the orphans of the Navy. Appropriations were minimal and it was a graveyard for any officer wanting to make a career in the Navy.

In 1961, the SEALS were established by the Kennedy administration at the same time it established the army Special Forces. Great quantities of money and energy were poured into what came to be called "Naval Special Warfare." Cadres were taken from UDTs to establish the initial SEAL Teams. For example, my old unit, UDT-21 in Little Creek, Virginia supplied the cadres that made up Seal Team 4, also based in Little Creek. In the old days, UDTs and SEALs from the East Coast were based at Little Creek and their West Coast equivalents were based at Coronado, California. BUD (Basic UDT training) became BUDS (Basis UDT Seal Training)and became centralized at Coronado. The drop-out rate in training remained about the same... 90%. UDTs and SEAL teams were never merged. In 1983, all remaining UDTs were decommissioned leaving the Navy only with SEAL Teams. There is no rivalry between the two. I belong to a joint association and we hold yearly reunions of both. UDTs are considered just an earlier generation of SEALs. At the last reunion I attended a couple of years ago, I was told by Joe Heinlein, ex-CO of UDT-21 and a pal of mine, that the Bureau of Personnel had issued an order stating that qualified UDT personnel could wear the SEAL Trident insignia on their uniform. Since none of us can get into our uniforms of 50 years ago it's all academic.

My understanding is that Jesse Ventura was a member of UDT-12 and in that capacity served in Vietnam. Since both SEAL teams and UDTs were getting shot up in Vietnam, the difference between the two doesn't matter very much.

I hope this explains the difference and the similarity between the two kinds of units.

JT

  • We already have non-credible confessions
  • Ventura is a proven xxxx he claimed to have been a Navy Seal when in fact he was a member of the the Underwater Demolition Team.

BUD/S (Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL) Training

BUD/S is a 6-month SEAL training course held at the Naval Special Warfare Training Center in Coronado, CA. You’ll start with five weeks Indoctrination and Pre-Training as part of a Navy SEAL Class, then go through the Three Phases of BUD/S. First Phase is the toughest. It consists of 8 weeks of Basic Conditioning that peaks with a grueling segment called “Hell Week” at the midway point, where you’ll be tested to your limits.

Thought the UDT and SEALs went through the same basic training they were not the same thing until they were merged in 1983. Tink who was a member of the UDT can confirm this. Note that in Tink’s bios he is always referred to an ex-member of the UDT. Ventura’s defenders claim the difference is not important. But the person who brought this up was a former SEAL officer who served in Vietnam and Ventura’s own spokesman said “he is very forthcoming and accurate in terms of his relationship with the United States Navy. He talks about the fact that he was in the Underwater Demolition Team. In fact, he has corrected me in the past.”

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/1999/dec/02/jesse-great-pretender-ventura/

http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/199912/14_kastem_seals/

Despite his spokesman’s denial Ventura said he had been a SEAL on numerous occasions:

Navy SEAL, union member, volunteer high school football coach, outdoorsman, husband of 23 years, father of two.

Ventura Campaign Ad

I'm a warrior at heart. I'm an ex-Navy SEAL.

The New York Times, October 31, 1998

And Mr. [Hulk] Hogan, I mean he wants to be me, anyway. He always--you know, he pretends to be a Navy SEAL; I was one.

Meet the Press, November 8, 1998

You know, I come from a little bit of a military background earlier in my life and we were always taught in the Navy SEAL team never to assume.

CNN Inside Politics, November 12, 1998

High Times: Was your wrestling career fun?

Ventura: It was exciting. And for me, an ex-Navy Seal, it was fun.

High Times, November, 1998

Ventura: I've been a Navy SEAL.

Maria Shriver: But, a Navy SEAL makes you ready to be Governor?

Ventura: Uh-huh. Yeah. Sure it does.

Maria Shriver: Where did you come up with that?

Ventura: It's easy--because I defy--because I worked with things in being a Navy SEAL that could kill me.

NBC Dateline, December 22, 1998

I'm also excited--you know, a lot of my old Navy SEAL buddies are here to see me get sworn in today.

CBS This Morning, January 4, 1999

I'm the top law enforcement officer in the state of Minnesota. I'm also the commander-in-chief of the National Guard. I'm an ex-Navy SEAL team member.

Meet The Press, February 21, 1999

"How did they know that about me -- how dangerous we truly can be?" We have a saying in the SEALs: we don't get mad, we get even.

National Press Club Speech, February 22, 1999

I'm the head of the state troopers, and the commander-in-chief of the National Guard. I'm also a former Navy SEAL.

CNN Late Edition, February 23, 1999

Tim Russert: Both your brother--your older brother and yourself, [were] Navy SEALs?

Ventura: Mm-hmm, yeah.

Tim Russert: You almost died twice, once as a Navy SEAL and once as a wrestler, with blood clots in your lungs.

Ventura: Well, I almost died more than that a couple times as a SEAL. That's only what I told about in the book.

Tim Russert Show, May 22, 1999

Last spring I rappelled down from the top of the Target Center before a Timberwolves game. But, you know, I am an ex-Navy SEAL and I was trained for you know, a full year and was very comfortable in that type of rappelling-type thing.

Larry King Live, May 24, 1999

I couldn't care less what a person's sexual orientation is, and I'm an ex-Navy SEAL.

The Advocate, May 1999

First of all, they should understand why a Navy SEAL doesn't wear underwear.

CBS This Morning , June 3, 1999

Larry King: You were a Navy SEAL?

Ventura: Yes.

Larry King: What was that like?

Ventura: Exciting. I did it at 18 years old to 22, 22-1/2. It was challenging. I would belong to no other unit The camaraderie is unbelievable.

Larry King Live, June 3, 1999

When I was a wrestler, I could pick up buildings. When I was a SEAL, I could scale them.

NPR's Fresh Air, June 3, 1999

Chris Matthews: When you were a--you were a SEAL, you must have been through amazingly scary moments with life and death.

Ventura: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Hardball with Chris Matthews at Harvard University, October 6, 1999

You're talking to an ex-Navy Seal here.

Playboy, November, 1999.

I was in the SEALs during the Vietnam War, so I experienced firsthand how we, as Americans, were affected by that conflict.

Rolling Stone, December 30, 1999

We're a proud organization. If anyone tries to pretend they're a SEAL, God help them.

Jesse Ventura Autobiography: I Ain't Got Time to Bleed

http://www.geekweek.com/2009/12/lets-clear-up-this-conspiracy-theory-first.html

His comment that “I was in the SEALs during the Vietnam War, so I experienced firsthand how we, as Americans, were affected by that conflict” was also misleading because as he later admitted he was never based in Vietnam or saw combat (and apparently never “went on clandestine or special operations where the risk of enemy fire was great or expected”). He was based in the Philippines and though he was awarded the Vietnam Service Medal he “refused to say whether he served in-country, offshore or both...[and] refused to say what he did to earn his Vietnam Service Medal. He also refused to reveal which platoon and which detachments he was in within UDT 12 - information that would allow reporters to find out about his missions in public documents”

http://web.archive.org/web/20020203035901/http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/1130195.html

And I was right his claim of having a confession was scam or highly misleading at the least the Hunt tape is nothing new.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Please sign in to comment

You will be able to leave a comment after signing in



Sign In Now
 Share

×
×
  • Create New...