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There is another thead on this forum called The Collins Radio Connections - From JMWAVE to Oak Cliff. I am unable to bring that to the fore. Will someobody else please try.

Both of my blogs that have the article on The Collins Radio Connection are inaccessable for some reason. So I am reposting it again here.

THE COLLINS RADIO CONNECTIONS to the Assassination of President Kennedy

By William E. Kelly – Revised from report originally published in Backchannels magazine and presented at the national conference of the Coalition On Political Assassination (COPA), October 10, 1994.</p><p>If the assassination of President Kennedy was the result of not only a conspiracy, but a covert action and coup d’etat, as many people believe, there should be evidence of this from both the scene of the crime(s) as well as from the highest echelons of power among those who took over the government. This would be especially so if the assassination was not the actions of a lone-nut or a foreign attack by Cuban or Soviet intelligence service sponsors, but an internal manipulation of policy and control, an inside job

As Edward Luttwack describes in his "How-To" book Coup d’etat – A Practical Handbook (Alfred A. Knopf, 1968, p. 117), "Control over the flow of information emanating from the political center will be our most important weapon in establishing… authority after the coup. The seizure of the main means of mass communication will thus be a task of crucial importance." At the scene(s) of the crime, eyewitness testimony is always suspect. Homicide detectives prefer more solid leads that provide documented evidence that can be introduced in court, such as fingerprints, telephone and automobile license records. There are a number of automobile license records of significance in regards to the assassination of President Kennedy, including the tampered photo among the possessions of Lee Harvey Oswald of the license on 1957 Chevy in General Walker’s driveway, plus the license numbers of cars seen in Dealey Plaza photos immediately before and after the assassination.

Most significant however, is the Texas plate PP4537. This number was jotted down on a piece of paper by an elderly Oak Cliff mechanic T. F. White, who noticed a man acting suspiciously behind the wheel of a 1958 two tone Plymouth sedan shortly after the murder of Dallas Policeman J.D. Tippitt in the Oak Cliff neighborhood of Dallas. The car was parked behind a billboard in the parking lot of a Mexican restaurant, with the driver, like White, watching the flurry of Dallas police cars racing down the street with sirens blaring, called to the nearby scene of the shooting of Tippit.

White walked across the street to get closer and exchanged glances with the man, who quickly drove away. White wrote down the license tag PP4537 on a piece of paper and forgot about it until later that day when he saw Lee Harvey Oswald on television and recognized him as the man he saw acting suspiciously in the Plymouth earlier that afternoon. A few weeks later, when Dallas radio reporter and later mayor of Dallas Wes Wise gave a talk at the Oak Cliff restaurant, the owner of the garage where Mr. White worked mentioned the suspicious Plymouth to Wise, who then met White. White reluctantly told his story, but was reluctant to get involved, and Wise had to use all his powers of persuasion to convince White to share the information with him. Wise promised White he would not be brought into the investigation, but tat he, Wise, would handle it. "Do you have the piece of paper with the license number on it?" Wise asked, and sure enough, White had it right there in his pocket and gave it to Wise. It read: PP4537.

White told Wise that nobody knew who or what was really behind the assassination of President Kennedy and he really didn’t want to get involved, but he handed over the paper to Wise, who passed it on to the police and FBI. </p

A quick check of the Texas plate #PP4537 indicated that it was assigned to Carl Mather, of Garland, Texas. When the FBI went out to the listed Garland address they found the two tone 1958 Plymouth right there in the driveway and knocked on the door. Mrs. Mather answered, acknowledged the car belonged to her husband, who was then away at work at Collins Radio, in nearby Richardson, Texas. When asked where her husband and the car was on Friday, November 22, 1963, she said that the car was in the parking lot at Collins Radio until sometime in the afternoon when her husband returned home and picked up the family to go to the Tippit residence to pay their respects to the widow and family of their good friend, who was murdered that day.

'Instead of going out to Collins Radio to interview Mather however, the FBI went first to Mr. White, who Wes Wise had promised wouldn’t be involved, and took additional statements from him, changing his story for the official reports and exchanging the two tone Plymouth to a red Ford Falcon. CBS News made a polite inquiry years later, leaving Carl Mather out of the documentary program they aired but listed Mrs. Mather in the programs credits. The House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) briefly looked into the affair, granted Mather immunity from prosecution to testify and then failed to question him under oath. The HSCA published a short report they titled "The Wise Allegation," when in fact Wes Wise made no allegations, and merely followed up on his reporter’s instincts. He came up with an automobile license plate number that was scene near the murder of a Dallas policeman that was traced to one of the victim’s best friends, Carl Mather, whose alibi is that he was at work at the time, at Collins Radio.

Documents later released under the JFK Act indicate that Mather was questioned by HSCA investigators and claimed that he worked on electronics at Collins, his specific job being the installation of the radio equipment aboard Air Force Two – the Vice President’s plane. </p><p>That this lead was not properly investigated, and remains uninvestigated today, is because such an inquiry actually does lead to the heart of the plot to murder not only Dallas policeman J.D. Tippit, but as many believe, is tied directly to the assassination of President Kennedy. If the Tippit murder is connected to the assassination of the President, as the official stories alleges, then the Tippit murder may be the "Rosetta Stone" that could explain the mysteries of both murders.

The significance of the Collins Radio connections becomes apparent with a quick review of the published record, and that:

1. On November 1, 1963 the New York Times published a photograph of the ship the Rex, which Fidel Castro identified as the boat that dropped off a team of assassins in Cuba a few nights previous. The Rex was docked at Palm Beach, Florida, near the JFK family compound, and the <i>Rex’s </i>Halloween eve mission was in clear violation of President Kennedy’s March 1963 edict that no para-military raids against Cuba were to originate from U.S. shores. According to the article in the NYTs, the <i>Rex</i> had been sold by the Somoza regime in Nicaragua to the Belcher Oil Company, its dock fees paid by the CIA front company Sea Ship Inc., with the Rex then being leased to the Collins Radio Company of Richardson, Texas, "for scientific research."

2. Founded by Arthur Collins, of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Collins Radio first made news headlines when young Collins was an amateur radio buff with the only (home made) radio receiver who could pick up the radio transmissions of Navy Commander Richard E. Byrd from his polar exploration expedition. [Richard Byrd is the cousin of the founder of the Civil Air Patrol and owner of the Texas School Book Depository building].

3. Collins Radio became a major defense contractor during World War II, and following the war, participated in Operation Paperclip, hiring Dr. Alex Lipisch, the former Nazi scientist who developed the Delta I glider and ME 163 Komet jet fighter. For Collins, Lipisch was assigned to the boat development program that worked with General Dynamics in attempting to build and refine a sleek, swift speedboat – the V20 - that could be used for Cuban infiltration missions like the Rex mission. It was later used in Vietnam.

4. David Ferrie’s telephone records reflect that in the weeks before the assassination he made frequent calls from the New Orleans law office of G. Ray Gill to the Belcher Oil Company of Dallas, Texas, the company that was the listed owner of the Rex.

5. In the week before the assassination, a reservation was made at Jack Ruby’s Carousel Club for a large party of Collins Radio employees.

6. The Dallas P.D. Intelligence Division maintained a paid informant who worked at Collins Radio and reported on fellow employees who appeared suspicious or subversive, including one who was reported to subscribe to the leftist I.F. Stone Weekly.

7. When Lee Harvey Oswald returned to Texas from Soviet Russia, George DeMohrenschildt introduced him to retired Navy Admiral Chester Bruton, an executive at Collins Radio, with the idea of Oswald getting a job there, as he had worked in a radio factory in Minsk, USSR. Oswald and Marina visited Bruton with DeMohrenschilt.

8. At the time of the assassination Adml. Bruton was working on a top-secret nuclear submarine communications project for Collins, with the Navy’s nuclear sub radar and communications HQ being based at Woods Hole, Massachusetts, close neighbors of Michael Paine’s family island.

9. In 1963 Collins Radio began receiving large military contracts including one for the construction of a microwave communications network in Southeast Asia, specifically Vietnam.

10. After Oswald was murdered while in Dallas police custody by Jack Ruby, his widow Marina P. Oswald married former Collins Radio employee Kenneth Porter.

11. In Miami, Florida, a Cuban exile, and former executive of Collins Radio, was murdered, assassinated in a still unsolved homicide.

12. Collins Radio supplied and maintained the equipment used by the Voice of America, all manned NASA space flights, the Strategic Air Command (SAC), as well as all equipment used for the CIA’s Guatemalan and Cuban operations. Most significantly, Collins Radio was responsible for installing and maintaining all radio equipment aboard Air Force One, Air Force Two and the Cabinet’s plane.

13. According to the Collins Radio Annual Report to stockholders for 1963-64, Collins Radio not only installed and maintained the radios aboard most military and executive branch planes, they also operated the station known as "Liberty" at their Cedar Rapids, Iowa headquarters, which served as a relay station for all radio communications between the White House, the Pentagon, Air Force One, Air Force Two, the Cabinet plane and Andrews AFB in Washington. [This "Liberty" station is misidentified on most transcripts of the edited version of the radio transmissions from Air Force One on 11/22/63. "Air Force One, the Presidential airplane, was placed in service in 1962 using communications equipment developed and manufactured by Collins. The aircraft…was modified to meet special requirements…In 1962, the station many remember as "Liberty" was opened and operated from the new communications building….(in Cedar Rapids, Iowa)…Collins had a contract with the Air Force to serve as either the primary communications station or as a backup whenever Air Force One, the presidential aircraft, and other aircraft in the VIP fleet carried cabinet members or high ranking military officers. Over the airwaves the station’s call word was ‘Liberty.’" From Collins Radio – the First 50 Years.

In his book The Making of a President – 1964, Theodore H. White wrote: "There is a tape recording in the archives o the government which best recaptures the sound of the hours as it waited for leadership. It is a recording of all the conversations in the air, monitored by the Signal Corps Midwestern center ‘Liberty,’ between Air Force One in Dallas, the Cabinet plane over the Pacific, and the Joint Chiefs’ Communications Center in Washington….On the flight the party learned that there was no conspiracy, learned the identity of Oswald and his arrest; and the President’s mind turned to the duties of consoling the stricken and guiding the quick."

According to the analysis of E. Martin Schotz and Vincent Salandria (in History Will Not Absolve Us, 1996), "And yet the White House had informed President Johnson and the other occupants of Air Force One, all of them witnesses to the hail of bullets which had poured down on Dealey Plaza, that as of the afternoon of the assassination there was to be no conspiracy and that Oswald was to be the lone assassin. If White’s report were correct this would mean that federal officials in Washington were marrying the government to the cover-up of Oswald as the lone assassin virtually instantaneously. This could have occurred only if those federal authorities had had foreknowledge that the evidence would implicate Oswald and that he would have ‘no confederates.’ An innocent government could not have reacted in such a fashion internally."

Unfortunately, there is no longer "a tape recording in the archives of the government," as the original, unedited, multiple tape recordings of the AF1 radio transmissions cannot be located despite an Act of Congress, the request of the Assassinations Records Review Board (ARRB) and numerous Freedom of Information Act requests. Our government seems to have simply lost the recordings, with no records being kept of their whereabouts or destruction, if in fact they were destroyed.

The Final Report of the ARRB (p. 116) notes:

6. White House Communications Agency. "WHCA was, and is, responsible for maintaining both secure (encrypted) and unsecured (open) telephone, radio and telex communications between the President and the government of the United States. Most of the personnel that constitute this elite agency are U.S. military communications specialists; many, in 1963, were from the Army Signal Corps. On November 22, 1963, WHCA was responsible for communications between and among Air Force One and Two, the White House Situation Room, the mobile White House, and with the Secret Service in the motorcade."

"The Review Board sought to locate any audio recordings of voice communications to or from Air Force One on the day of the assassination, including communications between Air Force one and Andrews Air Force Base during the return flight from Dallas to Washington D.C. As many people are now aware of, in the 1970s, the LBJ Presidential Library released edited audio cassettes of the unsecured, or open voice conversations with Air Force One, Andrews AFB, the White House Situation Room, and the Cabinet Aircraft carrying the Secretary of State and other officials on November 22, 1`963. The LBJ Library version of these tapes consists of about 110 minutes of voice transmissions, but the tapes are edited and condensed, so the Review Board staff sought access to unedited, uncondensed versions. Since the edited versions of the tapes contain considerable talk about both the forthcoming autopsy on the President, as well as the reaction of a government in crisis, the tapes are of considerable interest to assassination researchers and historians."

"Given that the LBJ Library released the tapes in the 1970s, the paper trail is now sketch and quite cold. The LBJ Library staff is fairly confident that the tapes originated with the White House Communications Agency (WHCA). The LBJ Library staff told the Review Board staff that it received the tapes from the White House as part of the original shipment of President Johnson’s papers in 1968 or 1969. According to the LBJ Library’s documentation, the accession card reads: "WHCA?" and is dated 1975. The Review Board staff could not locate any records indicating who performed the editing, or when, or where."

"The Review Board’s repeated written and oral inquiries of the White House Communications Agency did not bear fruit. The WHCA could not produce any records that illuminated the provenance of the edited tapes."

At the time I delivered my report on "The Collins Radio Connections" to the National COPA Conference in Washington in October, 1994, the Washington Post had just then exposed the true occupant of a new, mammoth, suburban Virginia building. It was not the headquarters for Collins Radio/Rockwell International as had been previously reported, but they had just been the cooperating cover company for the super secret National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), just as Collins Radio had served as a cover for the CIA in the operation of the <i>Rex </i>in Cuba in1963.

Also, in the October, 1998 issue of John F. Kennedy, Jr.’s George Magazine, - David Wise reported on how the NRO had "lost" $6 billion in U.S. taxpayer’s money, and specifically mentioned the fiasco surrounding the construction of the HQ building, or which Collins/Rockwell served as a cover company.

[William E. Kelly is a freelance journalist whose research into the assassination of President Kennedy is partially sponsored by the Fund For Constitutional Government Investigative Journalism Project. He can be reached at:

bkjfk3@yahoo.com ]

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Excellent stuff, Bill. This area intrigues me.

Collins R-390A HF receiver has been donated to the Rockwell-Collins museum by the Sentinal Chapter of the 101st Airborne Division Association

whose members used the radio to intercept enemy transmissions while serving with US Army's 265th Radio Research of the 101st Airborne Division in Vietnam from 1967 until 1972.

The radio was designed by Collins and began production in 1950 and continued being used by the military in the 1980s. The radio was classified as Top Secret for over a decade after its introduction and is currently prized by amatuer radio operators. Taken in Cedar Rapids on Friday, August 6, 2010.

(Cliff Jette)

http://www.kcrg.com/...-100153114.html

Legendary Spy Radio Donated Back to Rockwell-Collins

CEDAR RAPIDS – An unheralded group of Vietnam War-era Army signals intelligence officers took a step into the daylight Friday to donate one of their favorite radios back to its manufacturer.

The 265th Radio Research Company used many radios in their service in Vietnam from 1967 to 1972, but the R-390A HF (high-frequency) receiver they donated to the Rockwell Collins museum was something special, they said.

"This has been a workhorse," said Doug Bonnot of Jonesboro, Tenn., the president of the Radio Research Company Veteran Group .

Bonnot said he doubted that there was anyone who worked in uniform for the Army Security Agency, Air Force Security Service, Naval Security group or Marine Radio Battalion who doesn't remember the R-390 HF receiver fondly.

The receiver was so capable that it was considered top secret, the veterans said. It is now a favorite of amateur radio operators, who sometimes pay to buy and restore them.

Bonnot said members of his unit worked long hours at the radios day-in and day-out monitoring communications. Potentially valuable radio intelligence was recorded and passed off to other specialists who could decode and translate them, Bonnot said.

"You were in a battle every day," Bonnot said. "Your weapon is a radio, and your stock and trade is information the enemy put out over the radio."

Lawrence Robinson, who oversees Rockwell Collins' corporate museum, said almost everything in the museum has been donated to the company. He thanked the group for the 1952-vintage radio, one of the earlier models produced.

The radios were designed by Collins Radio, now Rockwell Collins, and many were manufactured by the company in Cedar Rapids. Many were made by other companies under defense contracts. About 20,000 of the 55,000-plus R-390 HF receivers made came from Collins.

"The stories about this radio are legendary," Robinson said. "There are still urban legends circulating that there are old-timers deep in the bowels of these three-letter agencies still using them."

Robinson said the United States government shredded "literally thousands" of the radios, apparently to keep them out of the wrong hands when they were no longer needed.

Rockwell Collins has had a corporate museum since1983 for its clients and employees.

In an experiment, Lawrence said the company is opening the museum to limited public tours beginning this month. Because of security requirements, they are open only to United States citizens. A passport or driver's license is needed to provide identification.

The volunteer-staffed museum includes such radio icons as a 1,000-watt transmitter used in the 1933 Antarctic expedition of Admiral Richard E. Byrd.

"The whole thing is a labor of love," Robinson said.

The tours will be offered from 11:30 a.m. to 1 p.m. on Wednesdays, and will leave promptly from the south entrance of the company's 120 building. Arrangements can be made by calling Robinson at 295-1698.

It is beyond dispute that the Collins Radio Company, headquartered in Dallas, interfaced with the CIA, at least, as far as the operations regarding the SS Rex, in anti-Castro operations in 1963. A key to deciphering part of these relationships, so far, has not been found in a JFK assassination document, but in the activities of Arthur Collins in relation to Operation BIRDCALL and his company beginning in 1956. It is not even suggested that Arthur Collins was a conspirator in any way shape or form, but that the communications system he helped perfect, coincides to what is one of the key areas of interest regarding the Kennedy Assassination. The parties involved include General Curtis LeMay, who at the time was the head of the Strategic Air Command, Major General Francis Griswold and Arthur Collins. LeMay would later bragg to fellow Joint Chiefs of Staff members how he confronted John F Kennedy in a meeting during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

In 1954 LeMay had invited via "special invitation," Arthur Collins to attend a meeting of business executives at Offut, AFB in Nebraska. While there Collins hobnobbed with officials of General Motors, Ford and Chrysler. While there, Collins also informed LeMay of advances his company had made in single-sideband radio, an area that the Air Force was looking to develop and improve on. What LeMay's collaboration with Arthur Collins eventually led to, was something called BIRDCALL, an "air-to-ground and point-to-point SSB communication system." Further testing on this communications system continued throughout 1956. Navy personnel were among voluminous radio contacts Arthur Collins made during the testing of this system, one at a WAC Navy station in Antarctica, and others.

Arthur Collins' biography relates how he communicated with over 1,000 persons worldwide in this period. The end result of BIRDCALL, was a incremental improvement of SSB single-sideband communications that were incorporated into the Department of Defense radio communications system, and it was this system that was in use on November 22, 1963; It is also in the area of encrypted and unencrypted communications that dialogue that is of most interest to researchers. Interest in radio chatter across the United States, specifically in the air over Dallas, and other parts of the country, have long been a area of keen interest. The Dallas Police Logs, the Secret Service radio transmissions and the White House Communications Agency contain examples that imply strongly the assassination was more than the simple image of Lee Harvey Oswald performing a random act of violence, and why many Americans still believe the actions, attributed to Lee Oswald, in relationship to November 22, 1963 are an inherent mythos that has become entrenched in American history.

see pages 187-260 of Arthur Collins Radio Wizard.

Certain pages of the following document provide authentication of comments contained in this post.

Home/Archive/Documents/JFK Assassination Documents/Department of Defense/Joint Chiefs of Staff/JCS Files, Set J-3/

NARA Record Number: 202-10001-10070

SACSA-M 575-63 CLASSIFIED TITLE

http://www.maryferre....do?docId=10286

see pages 10-11

For information regarding Admiral Bruton, George DeMohrenschildt and Lee Harvey Oswald

See google books.

page 58 of New York Magazine.

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Excellent stuff, Bill. This area intrigues me.

Collins R-390A HF receiver has been donated to the Rockwell-Collins museum by the Sentinal Chapter of the 101st Airborne Division Association

whose members used the radio to intercept enemy transmissions while serving with US Army's 265th Radio Research of the 101st Airborne Division in Vietnam from 1967 until 1972.

The radio was designed by Collins and began production in 1950 and continued being used by the military in the 1980s. The radio was classified as Top Secret for over a decade after its introduction and is currently prized by amatuer radio operators. Taken in Cedar Rapids on Friday, August 6, 2010.

(Cliff Jette)

http://www.kcrg.com/...-100153114.html

Legendary Spy Radio Donated Back to Rockwell-Collins

CEDAR RAPIDS – An unheralded group of Vietnam War-era Army signals intelligence officers took a step into the daylight Friday to donate one of their favorite radios back to its manufacturer.

The 265th Radio Research Company used many radios in their service in Vietnam from 1967 to 1972, but the R-390A HF (high-frequency) receiver they donated to the Rockwell Collins museum was something special, they said.

"This has been a workhorse," said Doug Bonnot of Jonesboro, Tenn., the president of the Radio Research Company Veteran Group .

Bonnot said he doubted that there was anyone who worked in uniform for the Army Security Agency, Air Force Security Service, Naval Security group or Marine Radio Battalion who doesn't remember the R-390 HF receiver fondly.

The receiver was so capable that it was considered top secret, the veterans said. It is now a favorite of amateur radio operators, who sometimes pay to buy and restore them.

Bonnot said members of his unit worked long hours at the radios day-in and day-out monitoring communications. Potentially valuable radio intelligence was recorded and passed off to other specialists who could decode and translate them, Bonnot said.

"You were in a battle every day," Bonnot said. "Your weapon is a radio, and your stock and trade is information the enemy put out over the radio."

Lawrence Robinson, who oversees Rockwell Collins' corporate museum, said almost everything in the museum has been donated to the company. He thanked the group for the 1952-vintage radio, one of the earlier models produced.

The radios were designed by Collins Radio, now Rockwell Collins, and many were manufactured by the company in Cedar Rapids. Many were made by other companies under defense contracts. About 20,000 of the 55,000-plus R-390 HF receivers made came from Collins.

"The stories about this radio are legendary," Robinson said. "There are still urban legends circulating that there are old-timers deep in the bowels of these three-letter agencies still using them."

Robinson said the United States government shredded "literally thousands" of the radios, apparently to keep them out of the wrong hands when they were no longer needed.

Rockwell Collins has had a corporate museum since1983 for its clients and employees.

In an experiment, Lawrence said the company is opening the museum to limited public tours beginning this month. Because of security requirements, they are open only to United States citizens. A passport or driver's license is needed to provide identification.

The volunteer-staffed museum includes such radio icons as a 1,000-watt transmitter used in the 1933 Antarctic expedition of Admiral Richard E. Byrd.

"The whole thing is a labor of love," Robinson said.

The tours will be offered from 11:30 a.m. to 1 p.m. on Wednesdays, and will leave promptly from the south entrance of the company's 120 building. Arrangements can be made by calling Robinson at 295-1698.

It is beyond dispute that the Collins Radio Company, headquartered in Dallas, interfaced with the CIA, at least, as far as the operations regarding the SS Rex, in anti-Castro operations in 1963. A key to deciphering part of these relationships, so far, has not been found in a JFK assassination document, but in the activities of Arthur Collins in relation to Operation BIRDCALL and his company beginning in 1956. It is not even suggested that Arthur Collins was a conspirator in any way shape or form, but that the communications system he helped perfect, coincides to what is one of the key areas of interest regarding the Kennedy Assassination. The parties involved include General Curtis LeMay, who at the time was the head of the Strategic Air Command, Major General Francis Griswold and Arthur Collins. LeMay would later bragg to fellow Joint Chiefs of Staff members how he confronted John F Kennedy in a meeting during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

In 1954 LeMay had invited via "special invitation," Arthur Collins to attend a meeting of business executives at Offut, AFB in Nebraska. While there Collins hobnobbed with officials of General Motors, Ford and Chrysler. While there, Collins also informed LeMay of advances his company had made in single-sideband radio, an area that the Air Force was looking to develop and improve on. What LeMay's collaboration with Arthur Collins eventually led to, was something called BIRDCALL, an "air-to-ground and point-to-point SSB communication system." Further testing on this communications system continued throughout 1956. Navy personnel were among voluminous radio contacts Arthur Collins made during the testing of this system, one at a WAC Navy station in Antarctica, and others.

Arthur Collins' biography relates how he communicated with over 1,000 persons worldwide in this period. The end result of BIRDCALL, was a incremental improvement of SSB single-sideband communications that were incorporated into the Department of Defense radio communications system, and it was this system that was in use on November 22, 1963; It is also in the area of encrypted and unencrypted communications that dialogue that is of most interest to researchers. Interest in radio chatter across the United States, specifically in the air over Dallas, and other parts of the country, have long been a area of keen interest. The Dallas Police Logs, the Secret Service radio transmissions and the White House Communications Agency contain examples that imply strongly the assassination was more than the simple image of Lee Harvey Oswald performing a random act of violence, and why many Americans still believe the actions, attributed to Lee Oswald, in relationship to November 22, 1963 are an inherent mythos that has become entrenched in American history.

see pages 187-260 of Arthur Collins Radio Wizard.

Certain pages of the following document provide authentication of comments contained in this post.

Home/Archive/Documents/JFK Assassination Documents/Department of Defense/Joint Chiefs of Staff/JCS Files, Set J-3/

NARA Record Number: 202-10001-10070

SACSA-M 575-63 CLASSIFIED TITLE

http://www.maryferre....do?docId=10286

see pages 10-11

For information regarding Admiral Bruton, George DeMohrenschildt and Lee Harvey Oswald

See google books.

page 58 of New York Magazine.

Addendum: In the New York Magazine interview of Epstein, he states that with regards to DeMohrenschildt, Epstein was particularly interested in an aerial-reconnaissance

company called Lundberg.

Although to be honest, i know nothing of such a company, I did find the following, it does seem interesting, considering Arthur Young was known for his connections to the helicopter......

Hans Lundberg, a geophysicist with the Lundberg-Ryan Air Exploration Company in Toronto, Ont., had leased a Bell 47 pre-production prototype direct from Bell Aircraft in June 1946 to test out an experimental magnetometer on mineral surveys. The magnetic survey took place in northern Ontario near Sudbury, at the Frood Mine owned by the International Nickel Company (a.k.a. INCO).

By chance, Jack Dillon, forest protection supervisor for the Sudbury district of the DLF was watching overhead as Lundberg's Bell 47 flew near a forest fire on which he was fire boss. The stubborn fire had been causing control problems for Dillon; but, upon seeing Lundberg's ship (flown by Bell experimental test pilot Gerald [Jay] Demming), he instantly recognized this new type of aircraft would be perfect for viewing and observing what the fire was doing and where the problem areas were. In fact, he watched the helicopter as it flew away from the fire and drove over to locate where it had landed to find out if he could obtain its service on the wildfire.....

To see the entire story go to........

Firestarters, The Beginnings

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - Bob Petite, Vertical Online

http://www.verticalm...plates/?a=11241

If Lundberg, or the technology, he was working on, really does interface with George DeMohrenschildt, then the whole miasma goes full circle.

Because the Lundberg I posted information regarding, connects to Herman Hawkes.

Herbert E. Hawkes, one of the “founding fathers” of exploration geochemistry, passed away in Hanover, New Hampshire, on December 4, 1996 at the age of 83.

Educated at Dartmouth College, Columbia University, and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, where he earned his PhD. in 1940, Herb was employed by the U. S. Geological Survey from 1940 through 1953. Near the end of World War II, the Chief Geologist of the Geological Survey requested proposals for postwar research projects. Herb, who had acquired an interest in trace elements as guides to ore from Hans Lundberg, a Swedish Canadian geophysicist, proposed a project to investigate the use of trace elements in soils as indicators of mineral deposits. This, along with projects involving water sampling and biogeochemical research by Lyman Huff and Helen Cannon, was approved and marked the birth of the Geochemical Prospecting Section of the USGS . Under Hawkes’ dynamic leadership, this small group began the development of a series of rapid, inexpensive methods of analysis, principally colourimetric, to supplant the emission spectrographic procedures then in common use. An early landmark was the field project performed by Hawkes and H. W. Lakin at the Friends Station zinc deposit in eastern Tennessee, where they demonstrated that the zinc content of residual soil over the deposit clearly indicated its location. This discovery, now so apparent, was an eye-opener to private industry. Company geologists soon followed with one of the first large-scale soil sampling programs in North America, which ultimately led to the discovery of commercial zinc deposits.

http://www.appliedge...mem_hawkes.html

acronym USGS

United States Geological Survey

Apparently, Edward J Epstein was correct about Lundberg.

RUSS HOLMES WORK FILES 104-10431-10035

DEMOHRENSCHILDT, SERGIUS GEORGE [DRAFT BIOGRAPHY]

http://www.maryferre...92&relPageId=35

In a resume which de Mohrenschildt made available to Col Orlov about 1958, de Mohrenschildt gives the following

information.

"Managing partner of Waldem Oil Company, crude oil producers in West Texas.

Personally manned and developed eastern extension of Post Pool, Garza County, Texas.

Participated in development of Reagan County. Supervised drilling, exploration and

completion of wells, set up production records, passed on various projects and deals.

[DBA 65836, 14 March 1964]

1954-1956 :

According to a resume which de Mohrenschildt gave Colonel Lawrence Orlov in about 1958,

de Mohrenschildt was "connected as consultant to Lundberg Aereal Exploration, Toronto, Canada,

aereal magnetic and electro-magnetic methods. Investigated applicability to oil exploration.

[DBA 65836, 14 March 1964]

See Radioactivity method pdf

J S Duval; at

funk.on.br/esantos/doutorado/.../Radioactivity%20method.pdf

From The "Did you know department."

Sarasota Herald-Tribune (FL) - October 17, 1996

Deceased Name: DEALER SOLD RUBY GUN USED TO KILL LEE OSWALD

Lawrence Brantley, 75, a gun dealer who sold Jack Ruby the .38-caliber Colt Cobra he used to kill Lee Harvey Oswald after the assassination of President Kennedy, died Tuesday in Dallas.

In addition to Ruby, another customer was President Lyndon B. Johnson, who once sent a Secret Service agent from his ranch to pick up some guns at Brantley's Dallas store. Brantley operated Ray's Hardware and Sporting Goods from 1949 until ill health forced him to retire in 1992.

By the way, if you find that last factoid interesting, be sure to read post # 61

on the Education Forum thread Air Force One Radio Transmission's.

http://educationforu...pic=15544&st=60

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trivia : just a focus on Swedish Steel (and Nickle). It's just a small part of that aspect, maybe an avenue to something. DeM had a Swedish background I understand?

http://runeberg.org/steelswe/0099.html

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Thanks Robert and John.

Why is no one discussing this?

To John Dolva;

I am not aware of anything genealogically or otherwise, that connects DeMohrenschildt to Sweden.

But I have discovered Ekdahl connections to Sweden.

See the "What a Family" thread.

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Robert. Ok, I think I read a reference to the name being derived from an old strand of Swedish Aristocracy, but this was some years ago, you may very well be right.

Ekdahl is a typical Sedish name., (maybe meaning something like ''from a place (valley?) of oaks.'')

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....Addendum: In the New York Magazine interview of Epstein, he states that with regards to DeMohrenschildt, Epstein was particularly interested in an aerial-reconnaissance company called Lundberg.

Although to be honest, i know nothing of such a company, I did find the following, it does seem interesting, considering Arthur Young was known for his connections to the helicopter......

Hans Lundberg, a geophysicist with the Lundberg-Ryan Air Exploration Company in Toronto, Ont., had leased a Bell 47 pre-production prototype direct from Bell Aircraft in June 1946 to test out an experimental magnetometer on mineral surveys. The magnetic survey took place in northern Ontario near Sudbury, at the Frood Mine owned by the International Nickel Company (a.k.a. INCO).

By chance, Jack Dillon, forest protection supervisor for the Sudbury district of the DLF was watching overhead as Lundberg's Bell 47 flew near a forest fire on which he was fire boss. The stubborn fire had been causing control problems for Dillon; but, upon seeing Lundberg's ship (flown by Bell experimental test pilot Gerald [Jay] Demming), he instantly recognized this new type of aircraft would be perfect for viewing and observing what the fire was doing and where the problem areas were. In fact, he watched the helicopter as it flew away from the fire and drove over to locate where it had landed to find out if he could obtain its service on the wildfire.....

To see the entire story go to........

Firestarters, The Beginnings

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - Bob Petite, Vertical Online

http://www.verticalm...plates/?a=11241

If Lundberg, or the technology, he was working on, really does interface with George DeMohrenschildt, then the whole miasma goes full circle.

Because the Lundberg I posted information regarding, connects to Herman Hawkes.

Herbert E. Hawkes, one of the “founding fathers” of exploration geochemistry, passed away in Hanover, New Hampshire, on December 4, 1996 at the age of 83.

Educated at Dartmouth College, Columbia University, and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, where he earned his PhD. in 1940, Herb was employed by the U. S. Geological Survey from 1940 through 1953. Near the end of World War II, the Chief Geologist of the Geological Survey requested proposals for postwar research projects. Herb, who had acquired an interest in trace elements as guides to ore from Hans Lundberg, a Swedish Canadian geophysicist, proposed a project to investigate the use of trace elements in soils as indicators of mineral deposits. This, along with projects involving water sampling and biogeochemical research by Lyman Huff and Helen Cannon, was approved and marked the birth of the Geochemical Prospecting Section of the USGS . Under Hawkes’ dynamic leadership, this small group began the development of a series of rapid, inexpensive methods of analysis, principally colourimetric, to supplant the emission spectrographic procedures then in common use. An early landmark was the field project performed by Hawkes and H. W. Lakin at the Friends Station zinc deposit in eastern Tennessee, where they demonstrated that the zinc content of residual soil over the deposit clearly indicated its location. This discovery, now so apparent, was an eye-opener to private industry. Company geologists soon followed with one of the first large-scale soil sampling programs in North America, which ultimately led to the discovery of commercial zinc deposits.

http://www.appliedge...mem_hawkes.html

acronym USGS

United States Geological Survey

Apparently, Edward J Epstein was correct about Lundberg.

RUSS HOLMES WORK FILES 104-10431-10035

DEMOHRENSCHILDT, SERGIUS GEORGE [DRAFT BIOGRAPHY]

http://www.maryferre...92&relPageId=35

In a resume which de Mohrenschildt made available to Col Orlov about 1958, de Mohrenschildt gives the following

information.

"Managing partner of Waldem Oil Company, crude oil producers in West Texas.

Personally manned and developed eastern extension of Post Pool, Garza County, Texas.

Participated in development of Reagan County. Supervised drilling, exploration and

completion of wells, set up production records, passed on various projects and deals.

[DBA 65836, 14 March 1964]

1954-1956 :

According to a resume which de Mohrenschildt gave Colonel Lawrence Orlov in about 1958,

de Mohrenschildt was "connected as consultant to Lundberg Aereal Exploration, Toronto, Canada,

aereal magnetic and electro-magnetic methods. Investigated applicability to oil exploration.

[DBA 65836, 14 March 1964]

See Radioactivity method pdf

J S Duval; at

funk.on.br/esantos/doutorado/.../Radioactivity%20method.pdf ....

Robert,

The above excerpts from your recent post on this thread triggered my curiousity as to whether the GHW Bush / Tom Devine connections to DeMohrenschildt, and DeMohrenschildt's connections with Oswald, and the oil exploration ventures of DeMohrenschildt, Edward Hooker, Bush, and Devine, and Bush / Devine associations with JMWAVE and the odd Bush / Devine "top secret" trip to Vietnam, a month before the Tet Offensive, all have U-2 and other aerial reconnaissance as the common thread.

In this post today, on the Thomas J. Devine thread, I have made the point that Richard Bissell was probably one of Devine's MIT economics instructors, and that Bissell and two of Devine's older Sigma Chi fraternity brothers were in on U-2 program planning from the beginning....

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....Addendum: In the New York Magazine interview of Epstein, he states that with regards to DeMohrenschildt, Epstein was particularly interested in an aerial-reconnaissance company called Lundberg.

Although to be honest, i know nothing of such a company, I did find the following, it does seem interesting, considering Arthur Young was known for his connections to the helicopter......

Hans Lundberg, a geophysicist with the Lundberg-Ryan Air Exploration Company in Toronto, Ont., had leased a Bell 47 pre-production prototype direct from Bell Aircraft in June 1946 to test out an experimental magnetometer on mineral surveys. The magnetic survey took place in northern Ontario near Sudbury, at the Frood Mine owned by the International Nickel Company (a.k.a. INCO).

By chance, Jack Dillon, forest protection supervisor for the Sudbury district of the DLF was watching overhead as Lundberg's Bell 47 flew near a forest fire on which he was fire boss. The stubborn fire had been causing control problems for Dillon; but, upon seeing Lundberg's ship (flown by Bell experimental test pilot Gerald [Jay] Demming), he instantly recognized this new type of aircraft would be perfect for viewing and observing what the fire was doing and where the problem areas were. In fact, he watched the helicopter as it flew away from the fire and drove over to locate where it had landed to find out if he could obtain its service on the wildfire.....

To see the entire story go to........

Firestarters, The Beginnings

Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - Bob Petite, Vertical Online

http://www.verticalm...plates/?a=11241

If Lundberg, or the technology, he was working on, really does interface with George DeMohrenschildt, then the whole miasma goes full circle.

Because the Lundberg I posted information regarding, connects to Herman Hawkes.

Herbert E. Hawkes, one of the "founding fathers" of exploration geochemistry, passed away in Hanover, New Hampshire, on December 4, 1996 at the age of 83.

Educated at Dartmouth College, Columbia University, and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, where he earned his PhD. in 1940, Herb was employed by the U. S. Geological Survey from 1940 through 1953. Near the end of World War II, the Chief Geologist of the Geological Survey requested proposals for postwar research projects. Herb, who had acquired an interest in trace elements as guides to ore from Hans Lundberg, a Swedish Canadian geophysicist, proposed a project to investigate the use of trace elements in soils as indicators of mineral deposits. This, along with projects involving water sampling and biogeochemical research by Lyman Huff and Helen Cannon, was approved and marked the birth of the Geochemical Prospecting Section of the USGS . Under Hawkes' dynamic leadership, this small group began the development of a series of rapid, inexpensive methods of analysis, principally colourimetric, to supplant the emission spectrographic procedures then in common use. An early landmark was the field project performed by Hawkes and H. W. Lakin at the Friends Station zinc deposit in eastern Tennessee, where they demonstrated that the zinc content of residual soil over the deposit clearly indicated its location. This discovery, now so apparent, was an eye-opener to private industry. Company geologists soon followed with one of the first large-scale soil sampling programs in North America, which ultimately led to the discovery of commercial zinc deposits.

http://www.appliedge...mem_hawkes.html

acronym USGS

United States Geological Survey

Apparently, Edward J Epstein was correct about Lundberg.

RUSS HOLMES WORK FILES 104-10431-10035

DEMOHRENSCHILDT, SERGIUS GEORGE [DRAFT BIOGRAPHY]

http://www.maryferre...92&relPageId=35

In a resume which de Mohrenschildt made available to Col Orlov about 1958, de Mohrenschildt gives the following

information.

"Managing partner of Waldem Oil Company, crude oil producers in West Texas.

Personally manned and developed eastern extension of Post Pool, Garza County, Texas.

Participated in development of Reagan County. Supervised drilling, exploration and

completion of wells, set up production records, passed on various projects and deals.

[DBA 65836, 14 March 1964]

1954-1956 :

According to a resume which de Mohrenschildt gave Colonel Lawrence Orlov in about 1958,

de Mohrenschildt was "connected as consultant to Lundberg Aereal Exploration, Toronto, Canada,

aereal magnetic and electro-magnetic methods. Investigated applicability to oil exploration.

[DBA 65836, 14 March 1964]

See Radioactivity method pdf

J S Duval; at

funk.on.br/esantos/doutorado/.../Radioactivity%20method.pdf ....

Robert,

The above excerpts from your recent post on this thread triggered my curiousity as to whether the GHW Bush / Tom Devine connections to DeMohrenschildt, and DeMohrenschildt's connections with Oswald, and the oil exploration ventures of DeMohrenschildt, Edward Hooker, Bush, and Devine, and Bush / Devine associations with JMWAVE and the odd Bush / Devine "top secret" trip to Vietnam, a month before the Tet Offensive, all have U-2 and other aerial reconnaissance as the common thread.

In this post today, on the Thomas J. Devine thread, I have made the point that Richard Bissell was probably one of Devine's MIT economics instructors, and that Bissell and two of Devine's older Sigma Chi fraternity brothers were in on U-2 program planning from the beginning....

I apologize for the length of this but I believe it will prove to be worth it.

I will immediately get to the point, the rest will be a closer look at details.

What you are reading is an excerpt from the testimony of Curtis La Verne Crafard......

It directly pertains to Collins Radio.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Page 11 is a half sheet of paper and there is nothing written on the front or back of what is left of that. Now on page 12 there are some items "supporter, shaving cream, after shave lotion, tooth brush, code 10 hair cream."

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Are those in your handwriting?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. And they are personal items?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. That you purchased for yourself?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. How long after you began to work for Jack was that entry made?

Mr. CRAFARD. I believe about 2 or 3 weeks after I went to work for Jack.

Mr. GRIFFIN. How long before you left?

Mr. CRAFARD. That would be at least 4 or 5 weeks before I left.

Mr. GRIFFIN. That is on the front part of page 12 and there is nothing else on the front part of page 12. On the back part of page

12 there are a number of entries.

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Mr. GRIFFIN. We are on page 16 and we are looking at the first entry on the page. What does that entry appear to be?

Mr. CRAFARD. "K. Hamilton."

Mr. GRIFFIN. Does that mean anything to you?

Mr. CRAFARD. No; the rest of the page, I would say that it was somebody had called in for reservations.

Mr. GRIFFIN. It says, "9--3 couples between runway."

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. And that page 16 is a half sheet of paper and there is nothing more on the page, and turning it over on the

back part of that half sheet of paper there is an entry. What is that?

Mr. CRAFARD. "Mr. Miller Friday 15 people Collins Radio Co." It would be somebody called in for reservations for 15 people.

END

That is the end of the passage which pertains to Collins Radio, as mentioned earlier the rest is a closer look at Crafard's testimony,

and more information at the end regarding Collins Radio and Miller, a recurring name, partly due to the commonality of the surname,

bur the name, I will submit, whether by coincidence or factuality has significance.

Mr. HUBERT. Will you state your full name for the record, please?

Mr. CRAFARD. Curtis LaVerne Crafard.

Mr. HUBERT. Where do you live, Mr. Crafard?

Mr. CRAFARD. 1219 Birch Street, Dallas, Oreg.

Mr. HUBERT. How old are you?

Mr. CRAFARD 23.

Mr. HUBERT. When precisely were you born?

Mr. CRAFARD. March 10, 1941.

Mr. HUBERT. What is your present occupation?

Mr. CRAFARD. At the present time I am unemployed.

Mr. HUBERT. Now, the subpena that you were served with calls for you to bring any documents that you may have concerning the matter under inquiry, and I would like you now to make a return, as it is called, as to the documents you do have so suppose you present those that you brought with you in response to the subpena.

Mr. CRAFARD. All I had was the subpena from the Jack Ruby murder trial. Some news clippings from the Ruby trial, and then more or less a diary I have been keeping for a little while of my own movements.

Mr. HUBERT. Now, Mr. Crafard, concerning the diary about your movements, do you have any objection if we have photostatic copies made of the pages on which you have made entries?

Mr. CRAFARD. No objection whatsoever.

Mr. HUBERT. Do you wish to retain the original of this yourself?

Mr. CRAFARD. Unless it is of some use to you.

Mr. HUBERT. Well, it may be, but on the other hand, I don't want to take it away from you unless you feel that you don't want to keep it or have no use for it yourself.

Mr. CRAFARD. Well, I would like to have the book because it comes in handy for a lot of things.

Mr. HUBERT. Mr. Crafard, who were your parents?

Mr. CRAFARD. Mr. Hugh Crafard, Mrs. Alice Irene Crafard.

Mr. HUBERT. Are they still living?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Are they living together?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Where do they live?

Mr. CRAFARD. At 1219 Birch Street, Dallas, Oreg.

Mr. HUBERT. Have you any brothers or sisters?

Mr. CRAFARD. I have one brother living. He is in the Army stationed in Los Angeles, Calif.

Mr. HUBERT. What is his name?

Mr. CRAFARD. Edward D. Crafard.

Mr. HUBERT. Is he married?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. Does he have children?

Mr. CRAFARD. Two.

Mr. HUBERT. You don't have any other address for him than that which you have given us?

Mr. CRAFARD. I can't give you the address. All I know he is stationed there in the Army.

Mr. HUBERT. You don't know what organization in the Army?

Mr. CRAFARD. The Missile Corps, antiaircraft. I have three sisters.

Mr. HUBERT. All right, will you state their names, please, and whether they are married?

Mr. CRAFARD. Corabelle Crafard, she is married.

Mr. HUBERT. To whom?

Mr. CRAFARD. [Deleted].

Mr. HUBERT. Where does she live?

Mr. CRAFARD. She is residing in Clare, Mich.

Mr. HUBERT. Are they living together?

Mr. CRAFARD. He is in the "pen" right now.

Mr. HUBERT. Penitentiary?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Which one?

Mr. CRAFARD. New Ionia State Penitentiary.

Mr. HUBERT. What State is that in?

Mr. CRAFARD. Michigan.

Mr. HUBERT. Do you know what offense he has been convicted of?

Mr. CRAFARD. As far as I know, B and E, breaking and entering at night.

Mr. HUBERT. How long has he been in the penitentiary?

Mr. CRAFARD. About 7 months, I believe, now.

Mr. HUBERT. What term is he serving?

Mr. CRAFARD. Two-and-a-half to fifteen.

Mr. HUBERT. All right. Go on to the next sister.

Mr. CRAFARD. Norma Lee Crafard.

Mr. HUBERT. Who is she married to?

Mr. CRAFARD. Owen Neal.

Mr. HUBERT. N-e-a-I?

Mr. CRAFARD. N-e-a-1.

Mr. HUBERT. Where do they live?

Mr. CRAFARD. Dallas, Oreg.

Mr. HUBERT. Do they live together?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Do they have children?

Mr. CRAFARD. They have two children.

Mr. HUBERT. All right. What is----

Mr. CRAFARD. Alice LaLaine Crafard.

Mr. HUBERT. What is her husband's name?

Mr. CRAFARD. She is not married. She lives with my parents.

Mr. HUBERT. How old is she?

Mr. CRAFARD. She is 17.

Mr. HUBERT. Have you had any brothers or sisters who have died?

Mr. CRAFARD. I have one brother that died.

Mr. HUBERT. What was his name?

Mr. CRAFARD. Gary Harold Crafard.

Mr. HUBERT. How old was he when he died?

Mr. CRAFARD. Nine years old.

Mr. HUBERT. When did he die?

Mr. CRAFARD. 1954, I believe it was.

Mr. HUBERT. Now, you have told us where and when you were born. Now, I ask you where you were born?

Mr. CRAFARD. Farwell, Mich.

Mr. HUBERT. How long did you live there after your birth?

Mr. CRAFARD. I am not sure of the length of time we lived right there. We lived around Farwell for 4 years, right around there.

Mr. HUBERT. After those 4 years where did you go?

Mr. CRAFARD. Went to California.

Mr. HUBERT. What part?

Mr. CRAFARD. San Joaquin Valley.

Mr. HUBERT. How long did you stay there?

Mr. CRAFARD. Approximately 6 years.

Mr. HUBERT. That is until you were about 10 years old?

Mr. CRAFARD. Ten years old.

Mr. HUBERT. Did you go to school there?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. How much schooling did you finish there?

Mr. CRAFARD. First four grades.

Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember the particular place in San Joaquin Valley that you lived?

Mr. CRAFARD. Well, I went to school at Woody, Calif., and Fairfax, Calif.

Mr. HUBERT. All right. After leaving those places, and particularly the San Joaquin Valley, where did you and your parents move to?

Mr. CRAFARD. We moved back to Michigan.

Mr. HUBERT. What place, in Michigan?

Mr. CRAFARD. Clare.

Mr. HUBERT. C-l-a-i-r-e?

Mr. CRAFARD. C-l-a-r-e.

Mr. HUBERT. That is when you were 10 years old?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember it?

Mr. CRAFARD. I can remember going back; yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. How long did you live there?

Mr. CRAFARD. We lived in the vicinity of Clare then for about 4 years.

Mr. HUBERT. Did you go to school there?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes; until I graduated from eighth grade.

Mr. HUBERT. Then what happened?

Mr. CRAFARD. We moved to Port Huron, Mich.

Mr. HUBERT. H-u-r-o-n, Mich.?

Mr. CRAFARD. I attended school at Yale, Mich., Yale High School for 2 years, and then we moved back to California to the San Joaquin Valley again.

Mr. HUBERT. Same place as before?

Mr. CRAFARD. No; we moved to a little place called Plainview where I attended school for a year, Strutmore High School and from there we went to Oregon. I dropped out of school and enlisted in the U.S. Army, September 18, 1958.

Mr. HUBERT. Now, do I understand you to say then that you had 3 years of high school education?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Was that--were those satisfactory years?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. I mean you have credit for those?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. You lack 1 year to graduate?

Mr. CRAFARD. I lack about 6 months of finishing high school.

Mr. HUBERT. Where did you enlist?

Mr. CRAFARD. I enlisted in Salem, Oreg.

Mr. HUBERT. And what assignments were you given?

Mr. CRAFARD. I enlisted in the antiaircraft.

Mr. HUBERT. That is U.S. Army?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Where did you get basic training?

Mr. CRAFARD. Fort Ord.

Mr. HUBERT. How long did you stay there?

Mr. CRAFARD. I was in Fort Ord for 2 months and then I went to Presidio, San Francisco, where I was stationed at an air defense school for a period of 2 months and then I was assigned to D Battery, 2d Missile Battalion, San Francisco Defense Organization.

From there I went to Germany in April of 1959. I was transferred to Germany to Deisley Kersne, and I was stationed with the D Battery, 2d Missile Battalion there. I stayed there until November of 1959 then I was transferred back to the United States where I was discharged November 10, 1959.

Mr. HUBERT. How long did you serve altogether?

Mr. CRAFARD. Thirteen months.

Mr. HUBERT. Is that the usual tour?

Mr. CRAFARD. No, sir. The usual tour is 3 to 4 years.

Mr. HUBERT. Well now, what caused you to get out sooner?

Mr. CRAFARD. As far as I understand it is the next thing to a medical discharge.

Mr. HUBERT. What was it based upon, do you know?

Mr. CRAFARD. General, under honorable conditions.

Mr. HUBERT. You have a discharge reading general, under honorable conditions and you are now taking from your pocket a document which is a photostatic copy, I take it?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes; DD214.

Mr. HUBERT. Of Defense Department Form 14.

later

Mr. HUBERT. So that in fact you were with your parents after you moved from Michigan to Dallas, Oreg., for approximately 1 year?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. Of which time you say you worked about 7 months?

Mr. CRAFARD. I went to school for about 6 months out of it, about 5 or 6 months out of the year, I attended high school.

Mr. HUBERT. Did you finish?

Mr. CRAFARD. No, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. What high school was that?

Mr. CRAFARD. Dallas High.

Mr. HUBERT. Oregon?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. You were not earning anything then?

Mr. CRAFARD. No, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. I take it that you left Dallas, Oreg., about April in 1961, is that correct?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Where did you go next?

Mr. CRAFARD. I went to California where I joined the carnival.

Mr. HUBERT. What part of California?

Mr. CRAFARD. Let's see, in Oroville, Calif., where I joined the carnival.

Mr. HUBERT. Oroville?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. What carnival was it?

Mr. CRAFARD. Royal West Golden Gate combined.

Mr. HUBERT. Royal West Golden Gate combined?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. What type of carnival was it?

Mr. CRAFARD. It was more or less about the general run of the mill for a carnival. Mostly rides.

Mr. HUBERT. When you say "carnival" you are talking about a place where they have these rides for children and so forth?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. How big a carnival was it, I mean, how many people were involved?

Mr. CRAFARD. It is pretty hard to say exactly.

Mr. HUBERT. What did you do with it?

Mr. CRAFARD. I was working with the circus that was attached to the carnival.

Mr. HUBERT. Animal circus?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. They all traveled as a group?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. How long were you with that, in that sort of a group?

Mr. CRAFARD. I worked that for about 3 or 4 weeks.

Mr. HUBERT. That is all, 3 or 4 weeks?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. All right, where did you go to next?

Mr. CRAFARD. I traveled through Georgia where I joined another carnival in Georgia, Jerry Lepke Ten in One.

Mr. HUBERT. What sort of a side show was it?

Mr. CRAFARD. He had the sword box, ladder of swords, fire eater, two-headed baby show, and a snake girl show.

Mr. HUBERT. What did you do at that carnival?

Mr. CRAFARD. Roustabout and barker.

Mr. HUBERT. How long were you with them?

Mr. CRAFARD. I was with Lepke for about a week.

Mr. HUBERT. All right. After that?

Mr. CRAFARD. Then I went to Michigan.

Mr. HUBERT. Where did you stay there?

Mr. CRAFARD. I visited with my sister and my brother-in-law again for a little while for about 2 weeks.

Mr. HUBERT. Which one?

Mr. CRAFARD. Tenniswood. Then I went to Detroit where I joined a kiddyland setup.

Mr. HUBERT. That is sort of a carnival strictly for children?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes; parking lot carnival.

Mr. HUBERT. About what time was that then?

Mr. CRAFARD. I believe that was in the fall of 1961.

Mr. HUBERT. How long did you stay with that organization?

Mr. CRAFARD. I was with him for about 2 weeks.

Mr. HUBERT. Then what did you do?

Mr. CRAFARD. I went back to Dallas, Oreg.

Mr. HUBERT. When you got to Dallas what did you do? Oregon, I mean.

Mr. CRAFARD. I went to work part time at the Muir and McDonald Leather Tannery and then I went to work for

Boise Cascade Valzets Division for the Boise Cascade Plywood. I worked for them until in June of 1962, June 10th, 1962.

Mr. HUBERT. How long then did you work for them?

Mr. CRAFARD. For about 6 months, I believe it was.

Mr. HUBERT. What were you making there?

Mr. CRAFARD. I was making, I believe, $2.25 an hour.

Mr. HUBERT. About what did it amount to by the month before taxes?

Mr. CRAFARD. About $400, $450.

Mr. HUBERT. You were not married at this time?

Mr. CRAFARD. No, sir.

Mr. HUBERT. Were you able to save money?

Mr. CRAFARD. I was spending my money just about as fast as I made it. I was traveling, paying for transportation back and forth to work, buying clothes. By that time I had bought a motorcycle or a motorbike, and I bought a few items, I bought a refrigerator for my mother or a dryer for my mother at that time.

Mr. HUBERT. Now, we have some information that you worked for Federal Aviation Agency through July and October of 1960 in Los Angeles?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes; in Los Angeles--I believe they were out of Los Angeles, where I worked for them that was over in Nevada.

Mr. HUBERT. What kind of work did you do?

Mr. CRAFARD. Surveyor's assistant. I had forgotten I had worked for them.

Mr. HUBERT. Can you tell us anything about your employment with Stewart-Hill in Berkeley, Calif., 1052 Dwight Way, Berkeley, Calif?

Mr. CRAFARD. 1 don't remember even.

Mr. HUBERT. That would have been between July and September of 1960?

Mr. CRAFARD. I don't remember.

Mr. HUBERT. Do you remember working for the Teer Plating Co., Dallas, Tex.

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. Tell us about it, please.

Mr. CRAFARD. I believe I worked for them 2 or 3 weeks, something like that.

Mr. HUBERT. How much did you make with them?

Mr. CRAFARD. I was making a dollar and a quarter an hour while I worked for them. I believe when I left there my last check was either $65 or $85.

Mr. HUBERT. Is that the first time you had ever been in Dallas, Tex.?

Mr. CRAFARD. Let's see, I believe it was, I am not certain of that.

Mr. HUBERT. That was between April and June of 1961, was it not?

Mr. CRAFARD. I believe so. The way I have traveled around, I had a lot of jobs I even forgot about almost.

Mr. HUBERT. What was this Muir Co. you were talking about?

Mr. CRAFARD. It was a leather tannery.

Mr. HUBERT. In Dallas, Oreg.?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. Muir McDonald?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. At 111 Street. Is that Dallas, Tex., or Dallas, Oreg.?

Mr. CRAFARD. Dallas, Oreg.

Mr. HUBERT. You worked for them for about almost year, with a couple of time outs, didn't you?

Mr. CRAFARD. Altogether I worked for them about 18 months. But including the time I worked part time and I worked part

time for them for a while while I was working for J. C. Tracy.

Mr. HUBERT. What was J. C. Tracy?

Mr. CRAFARD. That is a cannery in Dallas, Oreg.

Mr. HUBERT. So that during one period you were working two jobs--with Muir McDonald and with J. C. Tracy?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir; I worked for Muir and McDonald an hour and a half, 2 hours, maybe 3 hours a week.

Mr. HUBERT. Did you ever work for Ablon Poultry Co.?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir; that was after I was married.

Mr. HUBERT. That was where?

Mr. CRAFARD. In Dallas, Tex. At that time I was residing at the Letot Trailer Park with my wife and family.

Mr. HUBERT. When did you leave Dallas, Oreg, then?

Mr. CRAFARD. When I went to work there, you mean?

Mr. HUBERT. You had gone to Dallas, Oreg., I think it was in the spring of 1961, wasn't it?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. And you stayed there really about 18 months, right, working for Muir McDonald?

Mr. CRAFARD. All together.

Mr. HUBERT. When you left Dallas, Oreg., you were not married, were you?

Mr. CRAFARD. The last time I left Dallas----

Mr. HUBERT. No; I am talking about the time you left in the latter part of 1962 or early 1963.

Mr. CRAFARD. I was married June of 1962.

Mr. HUBERT. So your wife lived with you for some time in Dallas, Oreg.?

Mr. CRAFARD. For about 6 months we was living in Dallas, Oreg., from June 10 until I believe in December.

Mr. HUBERT. Where were you married?

Mr. CRAFARD. I was married in Dallas, Oreg.

Mr. HUBERT. Where was your wife from?

Mr. CRAFARD. Originally from Texas.

Mr. HUBERT. What was her name?

Mr. CRAFARD. Her maiden name was Wilma Jean Case.

Mr. HUBERT. C-a-s-e?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. Had she been married before?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. What was her husband's name?

Mr. CRAFARD. Donald Johnson.

Mr. HUBERT. How many times was she married before she married you?

Mr. CRAFARD. Just the one time.

Mr. HUBERT. Where did you meet her?

Mr. CRAFARD. I met her in Amarillo, Tex.

Mr. HUBERT. When? How long before you married?

Mr. CRAFARD. I believe it was in 1961.

Mr. HUBERT. What part of 1961?

Mr. CRAFARD. In the spring, I believe, it would have been in March of 1961.

Mr. HUBERT. You knew her about 15 months then before you got married?

Mr. CRAFARD. All told; yes.

Mr. HUBERT. Were you working in Dallas at the time you met her?

Mr. CRAFARD. I wasn't employed at the time I met my wife.

Mr. HUBERT. How did you meet her?

Mr. CRAFARD. I met her at the Salvation Army in Amarillo, Tex.

MILLER, LEORA -----

Sources: WC Vol 24, p. 403; CD 4, p. 497

Mary's

Comments: Her name and number in Larry Crafard's notebook. Her phone number was also listed to Barbara Jeannette Davis. (???)

Below is a strange WC Document, it is a copy of a letter, mailed to Jack Ruby from......Oregon

Lenora, [D] Remember Him?

Well Jack now that Things have sorta quieted down I will drop you a fue lines,

Jack you probley dont Remember this Picture or that is this Picture of This Person,

But I will sorta reFresh your memory a Little,

now think Back not to far for it was say about Last May I Came into your night club and this

Fellow was with me I interduced this Person to You and while we were sitting their in come this other

Fellow and up jumped this Fellow I interduced to you and he went over to where this Person was and brought

him Back to where we were sitting he interduced him to us Both Remember Yes the one and only Oswald he

shouted and you jumped up and started to through this Person out in the pictre and said you will never get me,

than in a fue days I came back into your night club and their you and This Person Oswald sit,

This Person of which introduced Oswald to you and me he is Back East now I'am going back in a Fue days,

he said as long as Oswald is dead now he hoped that you will never talk,

I will Tell the old gang hello For I Know you would want me to So Long For now Jack will Try to get to your Trials

"FRED"

CE 2825 Page 265

http://www.maryferre...bsPageId=146372

also

http://www.aarclibra...H26_CE_2824.pdf

the above letter enclosed a photograph of a white male

bearing the following printed notation the top left corner

the letter was postmarked Portland, Oregon on December 20, 1963

and bearing no return address and addressed to Jack Rubinstein,

in care of the Dallas County Jail.

The following individuals were shown the photograph

of an unidentified white male

and have no information as to his identity

ANDREW ARMSTRONG, acting manager and bartender Carousel Club, January 8, 1964

DIANE HUNTER, dancer Carousel Club and former employee Vegas Club

BILLIE HADLEY, waitress Carousel Club, January 8, 1964

WALLY WESTON, Master of Ceremonies, Carousel Club, January 20, 1964

GEORGE B. MOSSE JR., acquaintance and former employee Sovereign Club

MARGIE NORMAN, former employee Carousel Club, January 9, 1964

BILLIE HADLEY, waitress Carousel Club

WALLY WESTON, Master of Ceremonies, Carousel Club, January 20, 1964

Lieutenant K.P. Knight Identification Bureau

Dallas Texas Police Department, January 20, 1964

[Notice the capitalization of letters in the note that are not normal grammar, I do not

normally have a lot of interest in Warren Commission letters which give the appearance of being written

by someone with a 5th grade spelling ability, but conversely, the point becomes, there is an inherent

contradiction with assuming that is what you are looking at in sum total, considering the curious dynamic

of capitalization of letters where they would not normally be called for, but that is a judgement call....

and is in the realm of my opinion, what is not an opinion, in fact is that unless someone can correct

me, almost 50 years after the assassination, the photo has not been a point of contention, reference

et cetera, where's the photo? ]

other Crafard testimony ....

Mr. GRIFFIN. What do you know about Craven, what was his background?

Mr. CRAFARD. All I know he come from Hollywood, was supposed to be some producer from Hollywood.

Mr. GRIFFIN. And how about the Miles fellow?

Mr. CRAFARD. Deke Miles, as far as I know, was a director from Hollywood, a Hollywood director.

Mr. GRIFFIN. How did you happen to decide to go to Dallas, Tex., in the fall of 1963?

Mr. CRAFARD. Because I knew there was one of the biggest fairs in the country held in Dallas, Tex. and I had some

friends working over at Dallas, Tex., and I figured this would be as good a place to get a job with a carnival as anywhere.

Mr. GRIFFIN. How did you happen to go to Dallas the first time you moved there the year before?

Mr. CRAFARD. I was going there to have a reconciliation with my wife.

Mr. GRIFFIN. And you stayed about 3 months; is that it?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes; about that.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Did you live with her at that time?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Where did you live?

Mr. CRAFARD. Letot Trailer Park on Lombardy Lane.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Did one of you own a house trailer?

Mr. CRAFARD. We rented a house trailer.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you drive an automobile?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes, sir.

Mr. GRIFFIN. When Ruby bought the lumber from the dance-band show that closed, what was he going to use that lumber for?

Mr. CRAFARD. Remodeling on the inside of his Carousel Club.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Did he use it for that purpose?

Mr. CRAFARD. No.

Mr. GRIFFIN. What did he do with the lumber?

Mr. CRAFARD. He stored it.

Mr. GRIFFIN. Where did he store it?

Mr. CRAFARD. Downstairs below the Carousel Club.

end segment

Mr. GRIFFIN. Carlos Camorgo, Mexico City?

Mr. CRAFARD. It doesn't mean anything. The only thing I believe he had a stripper, pictures of a stripper, from Mexico or South America,

that he had some papers from her indicating she had been there sometime in the past.

Mr. GRIFFIN. You believe he employed a stripper from Mexico?

Mr. CRAFARD. She was either from Mexico or South America.

Mr. GRIFFIN. How long ago had he employed this stripper?

Mr. CRAFARD. I don't know how long ago. I saw some pictures with her name on it, Spanish name.

end segment

Mr. HUBERT. When did you first hear that Oswald had been shot?

Mr. CRAFARD. I had heard that Oswald had been shot Sunday evening.

Mr. HUBERT. Where?

Mr. CRAFARD. It must have been while I was getting through Chicago.

Mr. HUBERT. Where did you hear that?

Mr. CRAFARD. Over the radio.

Mr. HUBERT. What radio?

Mr. CRAFARD. The car radio.

Mr. HUBERT. Did you know that Ruby had done it?

Mr. CRAFARD. No; I didn't find out who had done it until the following Monday, the following morning, Monday.

Mr. HUBERT. Where did you find that out?

Mr. CRAFARD. I heard that over the radio.

Mr. HUBERT. As a matter of fact, Larry, I suppose all of those cars you were in had radios, didn't they?

Mr. CRAFARD. A lot of people don't listen to the radio when they are riding like that. That was the first I'd heard of it---

was Sunday evening, the first I heard Oswald had been shot.

Mr. HUBERT. Sunday afternoon, wasn't it?

Mr. CRAFARD. How is that?

Mr. HUBERT. You said it was while you were working your way through Chicago.

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. Which took you two or three different cars; about 2 hours or so?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. It was in one of those that you heard it?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. There was no announcement that Ruby had done it?

Mr. CRAFARD. I don't believe so, because I didn't know Ruby had done it until Monday morning.

Mr. HUBERT. How did you find that out?

Mr. CRAFARD. I heard that over the news.

Mr. HUBERT. In a car?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes.

Mr. HUBERT. During the night when you were driving from Chicago to Lansing, during the period from 5 in

the afternoon to about midnight, didn't you hear any radio announcements about any of this matter?

Mr. CRAFARD. No.

Mr. HUBERT. Did that car have a radio in it?

Mr. CRAFARD. I believe so.......

later.....

Mr. HUBERT. In any case, what you are telling us--it is your best memory now that you heard it over the radio that

Oswald had been shot. That is as much as you did hear?

Mr. CRAFARD. That is right.

Mr. HUBERT. You did not hear who had done it or even the type of person who had done it, or what business the person was

in who had done it, and that you never discussed it with anybody that you rode with in any one of those rides in Chicago and with the ride to Lansing?

Mr. CRAFARD. So far as I recall, I don't recall--I lmagine it was discussed, but I don't recall discussing it. I don't remember it.

Mr. HUBERT. Let's put it this way: If you had discussed with anybody the killing of Oswald, the man accused of killing Oswald, you would remember that now, wouldn't you, Larry?

Mr. CRAFARD. Yes; I would, if I discussed anything about who had been

accused of it, but, like I say, the first knowledge I had of who had shot Oswald was Monday morning.

Perjured Testimony?

Collins radio employees named Miller......

see Arthur Collins Radio Wizard and the link below

Another boyhood friend in Cedar Rapids who also had an interest in radio was Clair Miller.

[see http://www.lib.uiowa...nyRecords.html]

"Arthur had big expensive tubes as a kid while all the rest of us had were peanut tubes," Miller told a reporter in 1965.

The article quoted another neighbor's recollection of early days in the Collins family neighborhood: "We sensed that Arthur was different, but we did not know that he was a genius. When the rest of us were out playing cowboy and Indian, Arthur was in the house working on his radios."

[Note there was a Clair Miller who was in the 305th Bomber Group in WW II]

Clair Miller was also an employee of Collins Radio in the Sixth Avenue House see Arthur Collins Radio Wizard pages 24, 149, 151, 152, 264

as well as Bill Miller page 223;

Clair was hired as Arthur's first fulltime employee in June 1932, probably in Cedar Rapids, IA,

he served as a salesman, but he doubled at any other job which needed doing; marketing along with engineering.

he served two years in the factory.......

Dallas Morning News February 18, 1960

German Subsidiary Formed by Collins Radio Company

The formation of a German subsidiary company

to promote the sales, service and manufacture of

Collins Radio Company equipment was announced

Tuesday by James G. Flynn, Jr., vice-president.

The new subsidiary, Collins Radio Company

GMBH, located at Flughafen Rhein-Main, Frankfurt,

Germany, will be engaged in the manufacture of

airborne equipment of Collins design.

A spare parts service center and complete test

facilities employing factory-trained technicians

for Collins equipment will be maintained by the new

company.

The spare parts depot and service center of the

subsidiary will also serve Collins customers in Europe,

the Middle East and Africa.

William Dunn has been named manager of the new

Collins subsidiary and Floyd Gleason will be in charge

of technical activities.

Edited by Robert Howard
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