Robin Unger Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Large Bell Frame showing Jackie in pink & Clint Hill on the rear of the limo as it approaches the street light It could be possible to approximately match this frame with the corresponding Zapruder frame. Taking into acount the position of the street light shown to be in front of the limo in Bell Edited January 12, 2011 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 Also of note are the spectators seen on the overpass wall in Bell. many of them are clearly visible in the Cabluck photo taken from the bus. The light pole seen in Bell is clearly visible in Cabluck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Also of note are the spectators seen on the overpass wall in Bell. many of them are clearly visible in the Cabluck photo taken from the bus. The light pole seen in Bell is clearly visible in Cabluck. two more large Bell Frames showing the limo as it approaches the overpass. Edited January 12, 2011 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Also of note are the spectators seen on the overpass wall in Bell. many of them are clearly visible in the Cabluck photo taken from the bus. The light pole seen in Bell is clearly visible in Cabluck. Thanks for the high res enlargement. I once asked Harry about it, and he assured me the bright area was not retouched. Your enlargement plainly shows that was not so. I believe it was an open gate in the fence which had to be hidden. On the other side of it is the drain grate leading to the storm sewers, a site many believe held a gunman, who hid his rifle in the drain pipe and walked away after firing through the gate. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 Also of note are the spectators seen on the overpass wall in Bell. many of them are clearly visible in the Cabluck photo taken from the bus. The light pole seen in Bell is clearly visible in Cabluck. Thanks for the high res enlargement. I once asked Harry about it, and he assured me the bright area was not retouched. Your enlargement plainly shows that was not so. I believe it was an open gate in the fence which had to be hidden. On the other side of it is the drain grate leading to the storm sewers, a site many believe held a gunman, who hid his rifle in the drain pipe and walked away after firing through the gate. Jack Thanks Jack I'm not sure what that white square seen in Cabluck is to be honest. From Gary Mack. Robin, The original Cabluck negative resides in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram photo/negative collection at the University of Texas at Arlington in their library’s Special Collections (which also houses Jack White’s photo collection). Anyone who thinks the negative has been altered should probably examine it first or arrange to have it scanned for further study. The Sixth Floor Museum’s exhibit print, which is darker than your source, shows that the fence is completely intact. Gary Bell frame: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Josephs Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Also of note are the spectators seen on the overpass wall in Bell. many of them are clearly visible in the Cabluck photo taken from the bus. The light pole seen in Bell is clearly visible in Cabluck. Thanks for the high res enlargement. I once asked Harry about it, and he assured me the bright area was not retouched. Your enlargement plainly shows that was not so. I believe it was an open gate in the fence which had to be hidden. On the other side of it is the drain grate leading to the storm sewers, a site many believe held a gunman, who hid his rifle in the drain pipe and walked away after firing through the gate. Jack Jack... Above you write NOT RETOUCHED yet the text says it was RETOUCHED... ?? And if it was open, why didn't all the people we see there in yet another photo simply walk thru it? EDIT: mis read it...you say it was retouched... sorry I agree, it was retouched - just wondering why now. and From the 1967 view there doesn't appear to be a gate in the middle of that picket fence... Was this changed? Edited January 12, 2011 by David Josephs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Also of note are the spectators seen on the overpass wall in Bell. many of them are clearly visible in the Cabluck photo taken from the bus. The light pole seen in Bell is clearly visible in Cabluck. Thanks for the high res enlargement. I once asked Harry about it, and he assured me the bright area was not retouched. Your enlargement plainly shows that was not so. I believe it was an open gate in the fence which had to be hidden. On the other side of it is the drain grate leading to the storm sewers, a site many believe held a gunman, who hid his rifle in the drain pipe and walked away after firing through the gate. Jack Jack... Above you write NOT RETOUCHED yet the text says it was RETOUCHED... ?? And if it was open, why didn't all the people we see there in yet another photo simply walk thru it? EDIT: mis read it...you say it was retouched... sorry I agree, it was retouched - just wondering why now. and From the 1967 view there doesn't appear to be a gate in the middle of that picket fence... Was this changed? Only a good closeup would show whether there is a gate. Regarding retouching...a so-called "original negative" is not trustworthy as being original without proof of provenance. The backyard photos are good examples of "original negatives" copied from artwork. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack White Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Also of note are the spectators seen on the overpass wall in Bell. many of them are clearly visible in the Cabluck photo taken from the bus. The light pole seen in Bell is clearly visible in Cabluck. Thanks for the high res enlargement. I once asked Harry about it, and he assured me the bright area was not retouched. Your enlargement plainly shows that was not so. I believe it was an open gate in the fence which had to be hidden. On the other side of it is the drain grate leading to the storm sewers, a site many believe held a gunman, who hid his rifle in the drain pipe and walked away after firing through the gate. Jack Jack... Above you write NOT RETOUCHED yet the text says it was RETOUCHED... ?? And if it was open, why didn't all the people we see there in yet another photo simply walk thru it? EDIT: mis read it...you say it was retouched... sorry I agree, it was retouched - just wondering why now. and From the 1967 view there doesn't appear to be a gate in the middle of that picket fence... Was this changed? Only a good closeup would show whether there is a gate. Regarding retouching...a so-called "original negative" is not trustworthy as being original without proof of provenance. The backyard photos are good examples of "original negatives" copied from artwork. Jack This photo, I think taken by Jack Brasil, shows the area behind the Cabluck retouching. It is possible that a hinged gate was here. It could have been existing, or one added by shooters. Jack Edited January 13, 2011 by Jack White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Lee Forman photo Showing a square piece of fence that stands out from the fenceline either side of it. ? i assume that is because the fence pickets are nailed closer together leaving no gaps. Edited January 13, 2011 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 Lee Forman photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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