Lem Billings - George De Mohrenschildt - Lee Harvey Oswald

[Guest Tom Scully]

A link to a recent post that provides background for connecting Lem (aka Kirk Lemoyne) Billings.: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10654&pid=225299&st=0entry225299

Replying to Jim DiEugenio's presentation from NID 2010

Hello,

Jim DiEugenio's presentation from NID 2010 is now online.

http://justiceforkennedy.blogspot.com/

Joe Backes

Thanks so much for both transcribing this and posting it here.

I wish we had more historians comment on it.

Saturday, May 7, 2011

Jim DiEugenio's presentation from NID 2010

"...George de Mohrenschildt knew Bush from his old geology days. The fact that de Mohrenschildt was interviewed by the CIA before he went to Haiti and did not tell him [bush] about his acquaintance with Oswald, or about the upcoming coup attempt in Haiti, this somehow became suspicious,... In my opinion de Mohrenschildt didn’t even know what he was doing with Oswald. And he didn’t know until after the fact...."

What would have to be discovered to persuade someone of Jim DiEugenio's stature and accomplishment related to JFK assassination research, analysis, and historical review, to persuade him to stop communicating the opinions I have quoted above?

I would have thought there was already enough information out there, to dispel the notions that, at the time, in late 1962 into early 1963, De Mohrenschildt was an unwitting escort of Lee Harvey Oswald and his wife, Marina. I would have thought there was too great an amount of troubling information linking GHW Bush and his intimates, Ed Hooker and Tom Devine to De Mohrenschildt to discourage anyone as knowledgeable as Jim DiEugenio from distributing such strong opinions.

Jim offers his opinion that Bush was involved in an October "surprise" in 1980, indicating, at least to me, that it is not necessary for there to be strong evidence to influence Jim to take a position on whether or not Bush conspired to commit a major crime against the state.

If Russ Baker had never authored "Family of Secrets" the connections between De Mohrenschildt and the Oswalds, and De Mohrenschildt and Ed Hooker, Bush, and Devine would still exist. It would still be necessary to determine if these connections were merely coincidental of a criminally conspiratorial nature.

Jim seems to be saying he is not interfering with the work of determining the above, because he says he believes there are numerous other reasons to convict Bush of crimes and to jail him. I cannot agree with this opinion, because I think Jim is saying Russ Baker fell woefully short of making his case, which was too farfetched a case to pursue, and besides, we as researchers, have better things to do with our time and effort, that there is more potentially fertile ground to plow than to work to make the determinations I described above, in our quests to turn up information that will help to rule out what is coincidence and devote our attention to what is evidence or a solid lead.

My take on this is that the connections I described above, the same names displayed in the thread title, have not been determined to be coincidental, even after all of these years. More effort must be put in to attempt to separate coincidences from leads, not less.

On other threads, I've posted recent related curiousities I've stumbled upon.

De Mohrenschildt rented a room in Washington, DC in May, 1942, from a US Navy officer named Paul Joachim who was the stepson of the designer of the Underwood Code Machine, aka, the kata-kana typewriter. Joachim retired from the navy in 1954 at the rank of rear admiral, pursued his life long passion for art, and was killed in Chicago in 1962 in a still unsolved murder by multiple gunshots.

Another naval officer was living at Joachim's house in May, 1942. His name was Harry Hull, he was a WWII submarine commander, retired from the navy with the rank of rear admiral, and was married from 1939 until his death, to a first cousin of James Kelsey Cogswell, III. Hull's mother was widowed in 1920 and married again in 1925 to a man whose brother became a four star US Navy admiral.

In 1953, James Kelsey Cogswell, III married the first cousin of Bush's best friend, Will Farish III. At his wedding ceremony with Joan Farish, Cogswell's best man was WWII US Navy, PT boat Squadron 7 radar officer and silver star medalist, George Olin Walbridge, 2d.

Walbridge served in Squadron 7 in New Guineau during WWII with PT-129 navy officer and fellow silver star medalist, Francis H. McAdoo, Jr., Lt. (jg) USNR.

McAdoo was the nephew of Ferdinand De Mohrenschildt's widow, Nona McAdoo, the sister of Francis H. McAdoo, Jr's father.

New York Times - Mar 26, 1939

...Mr. McAdoo had Arthur Pew Gorman of Stevenson, Md., for his best man, and the ushers were K. Lemoyn Billings and Robert Bell Deford Jr. of Baltimore,...

"..Mr. McAdoo is a grandson of former United States Senator William Gib bs McAdoo of California and, on the maternal side, of Mrs. Isaac E. Emers on of Baltimore. He went to St. Paul's School at Concord, N. H., and w as a member of the calss of '38 at Princeton University...."

In addition to being Lem Billings's close friend from Princeton University, this newly emerged, American relative of George De Mohrenschildt, became president of Emerson Drug Co. and appointed Billings as V.P. Francis H. McAdoo, Jr's WWII fellow navy PT boat officer, George O. Walbridge, 2d, was hired as an Emerson Drug Co. marketing executive and worked for the company until his retirement. The first link in this post contains a photo of Billings and Walbridge in Cuba in 1955. The post immediately before the linked post displays details of James aka Jake, aka Jack Cogswell's relationship with AMRAZZ-1, aka Joaquin Godoy.

Elmer H. Bobst's Warner-Lambert acquired Emerson Drug Co. in 1953, and Billings left the company in 1958. McAdoo stayed on.

Isn't it at all curious that Lem Billings relationships with two PT boat winners of silver star medals for heroic combat performances in the Pacific theater during WWII was never reported by the press, before or after JFK's assassination, or by the WC or HSCA, or by Lem Billings, himself?

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/Archives/KLBPP.aspx

[Guest Tom Scully]

I think it is only fair to also post this recent comment of Jim DiEugenio.:

...I mean, how else can anyone find people like Mike Paine and George DeM credible today? But yet, these are the men he was using to prop up some of his arguments concerning the rifle.

I mean after Carol Hewitt on the Paines, plus what researchers like Bruce Adamson have dug up on the Baron, I would be very careful about these characters....

I think it is significant that I came upon the name Kirk Lemoyne Billings while searching for more information on James K Cogswell, III's close friend, George O. Walbridge, 2d., WWII Navy friend of the nephew of De Mohrenschildt's late uncle, Ferdinand.

[Guest Tom Scully]

Deleted...posted in wrong thread....

Edited May 14, 2011 by Tom Scully

[Guest Tom Scully]

I posted the first part of this post yesterday, on another thread.

...Now, we know much about DeMohrenschildt...his brother was Bush's roommate's stepfather, DeM dated Jackie's mother and knew Jackie when she was a girl, he shpeherded LHO, seemed to know everyone, was important enough to "unretire" Tom Devine of the CIA, for a meeting along with Clemard Charles. 14 year after the assassination of JFK, George DeM., in the midst of an Reader's Digest assigned interview, takes an afternoon break, receives a message from HSCA's investigator Fonzi, and allegedly blows his brains out and dominates one last news headline cycle.

I submit that James K. Cogswell, III falls into the DeM and Abramoff category. The man is the grandson of a Spanish_American War Admiral hero, and the nephew of a 20th century naval standout. A WWII destroyer is named after the two, and Cogswell, III serves on the ship as an officer, with distinction, through many combat perils, until after VJ day and the occupation of Japan.

His aunt, the widow of the second Cogswell, naval namesake, is a retired CIA secretary by 1954. Cogswell serve on the naval destroyer named after his family, during the final year of the war with the first US astronaut in space, and the fifth human to walk on the moon, Alan B. Shepard.

Cogswell seems to have graduated from The Gunnery School in Washington, CT in 1939, with the prominent Berkeley professor and mathematician, David Gale. In 1942, DeMohrenschildt rooms in Washington DC for a few weeks with naval officer Harry Hull, a man whose mother-in-law since 1939, was Cogswell's aunt, Bianca.

In 1954, Cogswell's first cousin on his mother's (Hennenger) side, Susan Estabrook Lewis, marries for life, the former OSS chief secretariat, Alvah Woodbury Sulloway .

In 1953, Cogswell, III marries for a second time, to Joan Farish, daughter of Stephen Power Farish, uncle of Bush friend, Will Farish III. Cogswell's best man was George O. Walbridge, 2d.

Walbridge turns up in a 1955 newspaper photo, standing in Havana, next to his boss, Lem Billings of Emerson Drug Co., and the former Cuban dictator Prio's former press secretary.

It turns out that both Lem Bilings and Walbridge are very close to, and employed by the grandson of the Emerson Drug Co. founder, who also is the nephew by the marriage of Nina McaDoo TO George DeM's late uncle, Ferdinand DeMohrenschildt.

Later reports, including by the HSCA, are that Cogswell, III worked for the CIA, raised money to finance at least one plot to assassinate Castro, knew and socialized with George DeM. and with DeM's other contact, Joseph F. Dryer, was a friend of AMRAZZ-1, aka Joaquin Godoy, and with Antonio Veciana, and had an only sister, Theodora, described in an HSCA report as being acquainted with "Livingston" aka Mitchell Werbell.

Let's see....did I miss anything???? ....

Even at the OSS Society, Alvah Sulloway's was evidently such a low key presence, he was referred to in their newsletter in 2001 as "her".

http://www.google.com/search?q=+sulloway+dulles&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aunofficial&source=hp&q=%22*journals+from+1892-1997.+Material+includes+her+years+with+the+OSS+Secretariat%2C+%22&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c4b94ef403c105f7

OSS Society Newsletter - Winter 2001

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journals from 1892-1997. Material includes her years with the OSS Secretariat,...

http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20030108-NEWS-301089968?cid=sitesearch

January 08, 2003 2:00 AM

Alvah Sulloway is a man who has learned throughout his career when to a keep secret and when not to.

....During World War II, Sulloway worked under OSS director Maj. General William J. Donovan in Washington, D.C.

"I was in charge of overseeing the distribution of cables ... that came in from all over the world," he said, before noting many of those correspondences were classified as top-secret...."I think my experience working for General Donovan made me less fearful of doing something different," he said....

Well, the answer to the question above was quick in coming. In the obituary of

John Farr Hawley, husband of a first cousin of Cogswell, III, Hawley's family thought

it was important enough of a detail to share the fact that Hawley was a law school classmate of John Connally, and we know that Henry Wade was a classmate of both men.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&noj=1&tbs=ar%3A1&tbm=nws&q=wygant+heffenger&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

ENGAGED TO WED LIEUTENANT WYGANT

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Pay-Per-View - The Sun - Aug 11, 1907

MISS KATHERINE LHEFFENGER. The engagement ofMiss KathaflneLaneHeffengerHoLifen*_ Benyouard ygan*t UniTed states Nayyi was announced*in The SbNyesteVdayvyV_& ...

Piersons Plan Long Stay at Washington

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Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - Oct 22, 1933

MISS BARBARA WYGANT. Members of the younger navy set at the harbor are ... grandmother Mrs Arthur C Heffenger of Boston This is MIss Wygant's visit to the ...

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Ravinia 'Music Under Stars' Opens 10th Season Saturday

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Pay-Per-View - Chicago Tribune - Jun 28, 1945

Lt John Farr of the naval reserve and his bride of last Salur day the former Barbara Bourne Wygant have gone to Oakland Cal to stay there ... Haw ley son of Mr and Mrs Abraham Lincoln Hawley of El Paso Tex re ceived his degree from the ...

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MISS VAN NESS WED TO A NAVY OFFICER; Member of Spars...

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$3.95 - New York Times - Mar 5, 1945

Lieutenant Cogswell, an alumnus of the Gunnery School and Amherst College, is a grandson of the late Dr. and Mrs. Arthur Cowton Heffenger and the late Rear...

http://www.genealogybuff.com/tx/smallcounties/webbbs_config.pl/noframes/read/2928

Texas Obituaries Collection - El Paso County - 11

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Friday, November 15, 2002 JOHN HAWLEY was born in El Paso on October 8 ... He graduated in the same law class as John Connally and practiced ....John received his midshipman training at Abbott Hall Naval Midshipmen's School in Chicago and was assigned to LST duty, eventually participating in the landing at Leyte Gulf. After the war he was appointed to fill a judgeship in El Paso. He later moved to Montclair, New Jersey with his wife Barbara and son John and daughter...

Law School Composite Photographs Index of Names 1884-1959

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1938

Faculty-Staff:

Bailey, E. W.

Bennett, Dale

Calhoun, J. W.

Crane, Edward

Dodson, Mattie

Hargrave, Helen

Hildebrand, Ira P.

Huie, W. O.

Keeton, Page

Moore, Lucy M.

Oliver, Covey T.

Schmidt, Benno

Shirley, Robert P.

Smith, Bryant

Stayton, R. W.

Stumberg, G. W.

Walker, A. W., Jr.

Wickes, Joseph A.

Students:

Agress, Alfred M.

Andrews, Roy M.

Barker, Howard G.

Bennett, Roy P., Jr. (Editor Texas Law Review)

Black, Earl M.

Bonner, Brenda

Bray, Clayton

Brock, Ralph

Burdeaux, Maurice

Cain, Clacy Malvin

Camiade, Emile Bernard, Jr.

Carnes, John P.

Casseb, Solomon, Jr.

Chuoke, Peter M., Jr., (Case Note Editor Law Review, Pres. Senior Class Fall Term)

Clarke, Richard G., Jr.

Cobb, Robert

Connally, John B., Jr.

Cook, Raymond A. (Permanent Secy.)

Cosgrove, Nicolas P.

Counts, Katherine

Creager, E. B.

Croom, John A.

Darr, George Charles, Jr.

Dawson, John

Dickson, Ralph P.

Doehring, Sweeney J.

Duckett, Jesse James

Eckhardt, Robert C.

Edwards, Tilden H.

Engdohl, Eugene Harold

Ferguson, Hugh, Jr.

Floore, Heard L.

Ford, John W.

Francis, William H., Jr. (Pres. Senior Law Class Spring Term)

Goggans, James Lawson, Jr.

Goldston, Joseph C.

Goodrich, William W. (Quizmaster)

Green, John Plath

Guitar, James, Jr.

Harlan, Joe

Hawley, John Farr

Hayre, J. M.

Heard, Frank L., Jr.

Heath, Milton

Herring, Charles F.

Hochman, Emanuel Moses

Holland, Bill L.

Howard, A. Ryland

Hughes, Barbara

Hurwitz, William

Huser, Paul

Hutcheson, Jr., Palmer

Huth, Alvin L.

Irons, David B.

Irvin, R. Briggs

Jackson, Randolph M.

Jennings, James T.

Johnson, Herbert M.

Johnson, John W., Jr.

Johnson, Nancy Kerr

Johnson, Robert C.

Jones, William Leighton

Kalmans, Yale

Kennedy, Harold L.

Kennelly, Clyde B.

Latham, Lynn

Lea, Ross Bowlin

Lesikar, John W.

Lewis, George L.

Loftis, Austin

Logan, John D.

Logan, Warren C., Jr.

Lore, James Andrew, Jr.

Lowther, John A.

Lucia, Vincent J., Jr.

McDaniel, Gordon D.

McDonald, Francis Goodall

McKay, Morris

Maniscalco, Peter

Markward, Forrest, Jr.

Marshall, Robert C.

Matthews, Wayne

Mays, Tom J.

Means, Wyatt B.

Miller, Bradford F.

Morgan, C. A.

Motley, Howard S.

Nelson, Louis V. (Comment Editor Law Review)

Newberry, Fred K.

Newman, Katherine Ruth

Nicholas, William E., Jr.

Oldham, Beatty

Owen, Jack

Owens, W. Wroe

Pannill, F. H.

Patterson, W. B., Jr.

Penland, Harvey

Pierce, R. M.

Pike, George E.

Pipkin, H. C., Jr.

Pittenger, William A.

Powell, Richard H.

Preston, J. M.

Pritchard, Ed S., Jr.

Rovel, Victor W.

Reams, Sam G.

Richter, Francis C.

Roquemore, O. B., Jr.

Rothell, Henry H.

Russell, James H.

Rylander, Ashlee G.

Sagebiel, Agnes E.

Sanders, H. W.

Sapp, Charles

Schwartz, Armand G.

Scott, James H.

Sellers, Robert M.

Sergeant, Frank C., Jr.

Shelton, Thomas O., Jr.

Slay, W. H., Jr.

Smith, J. Orville

Smith, W. Hightower

Sparks, Jack

Sperry, Joseph Hall

Sprain, Marvin

Staley, J. I., Jr.

Starley, J. H.

Steger, Hugh L.

Storey, W. L.

Termini, James Thomas

Thompson, James E.

Tipps, Kelly

Tipton, Tom L., Jr.

Townsend, Jack N., Jr.

Traweek, W. H.

Tyler, Fisher Ames

Underwood, J. Tall

Urrea, Alberto Trevino

Vance, Roy C., Jr.

Vaughan, Roland C.

Wade, Henry M., Jr. (President of Law School)

Walley, W. Gail, Jr.

Warburton, J. O. E.

Ward, Roy P.

Washburn, Roy M.

Wassell, J. McClellan

Watson, Hubert L.

Weddell, Robert V.

Whitsett, Emmett L., Jr.

Whittington, Marvin Edward

Wier, Max Harris, Jr.

Wood, John H., Jr.

Woodward, Nicholas R.

Wulff, Fred

Edited May 15, 2011 by Tom Scully

[Guest Tom Scully]

After the 1937 school year, Cogswell III transferred from Phillips Exeter Academy, in Exeter, NH, where he had been a member of the class just below the graduating class, to the Gunnery School in Washington, CT. However, he did not graduate and go on to attend Amherst College, until two years later, in 1939.

It seems interesting, even more so if all of the other coincidences related to Cogswell III I've already posted about are also considerated, that Cogswell III and Nicholas Katzenbach were Phillips Exeter schoolmates for two years. Katzenbach in 1937, was a member of the class just behind the class Cogswell III was a member of.

Phillips Exeter was a boarding school, students from others states like Cogswell III and Katzenbach lived on the campus.

It seems reasonable to think they had opportunity to become much more familiar with each other than students in a comparably populated day school.

The Phillips Exeter student body was small, there were only 120 members of the "Upper Middle Class", Cogswell III's class, listed in the 1937 yearbook.

Katzenbach is standing second from the right, in the top row.

Cogswell III is listed as a Herodotan Society member, JK Cogswell, 3D. Arthur M. Schlesinger described it as "a club for embryonic historians."

[John Dolva]

It's like this, to me, arguably unwarranted, Warren bashings that go on and on. I think, from my perspective, that Warren was a good public servant who believed that the system is fundamentally worthy of being a member of. On his integrity he rose to a position where he could make the Brown v Board of Ed* ruling!

It was then that he started to experience the country he stood up for.

JBS, KKK, FBI turncoats etc that set out to thwart the implementation of this ruling. No wonder he was a friend of Kennedy. Then : This impeach Earl Warren became a pastime from all sides.

Ditto Katzenbach. Having seen him go up against Barnett and then Alabama (Bull Connor?) and against Gen Walkers followers the notion of him turning tail just doesn't gel.

Maybe it's one for the six degrees club.

edit:correction* (T.M.)

Edited May 20, 2011 by John Dolva

[Guest Tom Scully]

John,

I would take the opposite of your view, if it were not for Earl Warren's record on civil rights. I have the same conflicted opinion of Katzenbach. He escorted the future sister-in-law of current U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, onto the campus of the University of Alabama in 1963.

There is this, but it is not the only contradiction.:

In Volume III of the Hearings of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, there is a copy of a memo written by LBJ aide Walter Jenkins to the President which reports on a phone conversation that Jenkins apparently had with J. Edgar Hoover." According to the memo, Hoover said over the phone that: "The thing I am concerned about, and so is Mr. Katzenbach, is having something issued so we can convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin. Mr. Katzenbach thinks that the President might appoint a Presidential Corrunission of three outstanding citizens to make a determination."...

Katzenbach was acting Attorney General. He had not just suddenly lost a brother, as RFK just had, and he had to know almost as much as Bobby knew of this background, yet he let it happen. I think he stood by and watched as Warren and his Commission permitted this guy to continue what he did best, block investigation of Paul Dorfman and "family".

Bobby was an expert.:

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The enemy within: the McClellan Committee's crusade against Jimmy ... - Page 86

Robert F. Kennedy - 1994 - 358 pages - Preview

And then he wanted to know why we wouldn't leave Hoffa and him alone. The next time I saw him was when he appeared before the Committee and, like his father, took the Fifth Amendment. Paul Dorfman and Jimmy Hoffa are now as one.

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Tentacles of power: the story of Jimmy Hoffa

Clark Raymond Mollenhoff - 1965 - 415 pages - Snippet view

Dr. Leo Perlman, executive vice president of the Union Casualty insurance company, had cultivated such

labor bosses as Hoffa and Bert Brennan and Red Dorfman, head of the Waste Material Handlers Local 20467 in Chicago, and Frank Darling ...

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Hearings

United States. Congress. House. Committee on Education - 1953 - Snippet view

Mr. Hoffa. And I will show you how it is not true. Do you see this little dollar here? That is $1. This dollar here is with four quarters. There is no mystery about retention. There is no mystery about purchasing insurance....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_E._Jenner,_Jr.#Controversy

....However, in 1953 Congressional Committee Hearings on Labor Racketeering, Jenner also represented Chicago Electrical Workers Local 1031 business manager, M. Frank Darling[8], while he was under investigation for paying the inexperienced, newly opened insurance brokerage owned by Allen Dorfman, his father Paul Dorfman, and his mother Rose, millions of dollars of funds paid to Local 1031 by employers per union contract agreements,

....Jenner explained to the Committee and its counsel that Mr. Darling did not understand the concept of a retention rate related to excess health insurance premiums paid to the Dorfmans.[10][11] During that same hearing, Jimmy Hoffa challenged Jenner's client, Darling's claim of inability to understand retention percentage. Darling had permitted the Dorfmans a 100 percent retention of excess premiums paid, while the Committee was critical of Jimmy Hoffa allowing the Dorfmans to retain just 17-1/2 percent of excess Teamsters Union paid premiums.[12]...

...Although the FBI questioned Paul Dorfman and confirmed Dorfman's association with Jack Ruby, (see Warren Commission exhibit CE 1279)[15] there is nothing in the Warren Commission Report about Jenner's legal representation of Dorfman insurance brokerage client, M. Frank Darling, or about Jenner's law firm's cooperation with Stanford Clinton in representing the Teamsters Central States Pension Fund, linked in the above cited, 1982 New Jersey report, to Allen Dorfman....

John, I just read a few pages back from the quote I linked to from RFK's book. I learned for the first time that the labor rackets hearings of 1953 were started up again, in 1954. Guess who M. Frank Darling's lawyer, was, not only during the 1953 hearings. but in 1954, as well.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=13139&view=findpost&p=200375

http://books.google.com/books?cd=2&q=darling%2C+m+frank+ae+jenner+dorfman%2C+stanford+clinton&btnG=Search+Books

Hearings‎ - Page 83

United States. Congress. House. Committee on Education - 1953

... 122 Darling, M. Frank, Chicago, 111., accompanied by counsel, AE Jenner and

... 111., accompanied by counsel, Stanford Clinton, Chicago, 111 71 Dorfman, ...

TESTIMONY OF M. FRANK DARLING, PRESIDENT AND BUSINESS MANAGER, LOCAL 1031,

INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD 01 ELECTRICAL WORKERS, CHICAGO, ILL., ACCOMPANIED

BY HIS COUNSEL, ALBERT E. JENNER AND JAMES A. SPRAWL, CHICAGO, ILL.

Mr. SMITH. I want to make it clear that you are the witness and that you have a right to

consult with your counsel before you answer any questions, but the lawyers,

your attorneys, are not going to make any answers.

Mr. JENNER. I never have.

Mr. McKENNA. Mr. Darling, what is your occupation ? Mr. DARLING. I am president and business

manager of local 1031 of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers in Chicago.

Mr. McKENNA. Where is that located ?

Mr. DARLING. Chicago.

Mr. McKENNA. That is your home?

Mr. DARLING. Yes, sir. ...

...Mr. Darling. Joe Jacobs — said that there was a comparatively new company in New York who he was sure

could write a package that we would want, and that the premium would be lower than any other company. I told him I would be very much interested. He introduced me to the Dorf mans.

Mr. McKenna. When was that now ?

Mr. DARLING. Paul, I had already known for some time. I had seen him at federation meetings, Chicago Federation of Labor meetings, from time to time; Allen I had never met to that time. I believe it was in '49.

Mr. MCKENNA. Approximately when in 1949?

Mr. DARLING. That must have been in the early part of '49.

Mr. MCKENNA. The early part of '49?

Mr. DARLING. Yes, in the spring or before spring even.

Mr. MCKENNA. That was before, then, the Dorfmans were licensed as an insurance agency?

Mr. DARLING. I think it is. I'm trying to remember just how long we have had insurance. I think Zy2 years.

Would that make it the early part of '49 ?

Mr. JENNER. Yes.

Mr. DARLING. The first company covered by the Union Casualty was in May.

Mr. MCKENNA. May of 1949? (There was no response.)

Mr. MCKENNA. I believe if I can refresh your recollection at all your policy is renewable in May, isn't it?

Mr. DARLING. That is correct.

Mr. McKENNA. And so it is for annual periods ? ...

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&tbo=1&q=sprawl+%22frank+darling%2C%22&btnG=Search+Books

Hearings: Volume 1

United States. Congress. House, United States. Congress. Joint Committee ..., United States. Congress.

Senate. Committee on Small Business - 1955 - Snippet view

TESTIMONY OF M. FRANK DARLING, PRESIDENT AND BUSINESS MANAGER, LOCAL 1031, INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF

ELECTRICAL WORKERS, CHICAGO, ILL., ACCOMPANIED BY HIS COUNSEL, ALBERT E. JENNER AND JAMES A. SPRAWL, HICAGO, ILL. Mr. Smith. ...

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Committee on Small Business - 1955 - Snippet view

...Mr. McKenna. Mr. Darling, did you ever make any inquiry as to how much was paid in the way of commissions on your insurance on your members ?

Mr. Darling. No, I didn't.

Mr. McKenna. You have never made any inquiry of that nature? Mr. Darling. No.

Mr. McKenna. Haven't you been a little bit curious ?

Mr. Darling. No. I would have been curious, perhaps, if the premium wasn't lower than any other company had come up with so far. I have learned a lot in the last couple of days up here in Detroit that I didn't know before.

Mr. McKenna. Do you know what the premium had been on the insurance on your members, or what the commission, rather, had been?

Mr. Darling. No, sir.

Mr. McKenna. You have no idea?

Mr. Darling. I do not at all.

Mr. Jenner. Other than what you have heard here.

Mr. Darling. Other than what I have heard here in Detroit. Mr. McKenna. You have heard here that until May of this year, have you, that 15 percent was being paid to the Dorfmans by way of commissions on your policy?

Mr. Darling. I saw the newspaper articles.

Mr. McKenna. You have never heard that before?

Mr. Darling. No, sir. Mr. McKenna. Does that strike you as a reasonable amount? Mr. Darling. Not now, no.

Mr. Jenner. I don't think he is qualified to say whether it is reasonable or not.

Mr. DARLING. I say not now, because in the last 2 or 3 days I have read every newspaper article that has been printed here and heard conversations in that corridor and it seems to be a lot of peoples opinion, at least, that it ought to be 7 or 8 percent.

Mr. McKenna. Or possibly one-half of 1 percent ?

Mr. Darling. That, I don't know, sir. ....

John, I am saying that Bobby and Katzenbach had to have an awareness which I only fully acquired, tonight. Albert E. Jenner blocked efforts of investigators in two sets of hearings to learn how his Jenner's client's Local 1031 came to be the first Dorfman insurance client or how that client could be so brazen in shoveling money to the Dorfmans. The committees hammered Hoffa for paying too much to the Dorfmans for insurance coverage, even as Jenner made it clear to the Committees that his client was clueless enough to pay almost six times the retention percentage (100 percent vs. Hoffa paying 17-1/2 percent) to the Dorfmans, that Hoffa admitted paying.

No responsible official in his right mind...not Katzenbach, or Tom Clark, or Earl Warren, would stand idly by while Albert E. Jenner was placed on the WC in such a sensitive investigative position, unless they were trying to engineer a cover up.

http://www.archive.org/stream/investigationofi43unit/investigationofi43unit_djvu.txt

Full text of "Investigation of improper activities in the labor or ...

As a matter of fact, Mr. Darling who was head of the union then, ...... Is there something about giving Jimmy HofFa a dinner, a lavish dinner like that, ...

http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=mr.+darling+dorfman+jacobs&btnG=Search&um=1&ned=us&hl=en&scoring=a

Bares Lavish Parties for Union Bosses Here

Pay-Per-View - Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver - Nov 24, 1953

James R. Hoffa, Frank Darling, Bert Brennan, Dave Previant, Phil Goodman, ... Mr . and Mrs. Paul Dorfman, Mr. and Mrs. Allen Dorfman, Joseph Jacobs, ...

AFL Union Chiefs Son Balks at $101,000 Payoff Quiz

Pay-Per-View - Chicago Tribune - ProQuest Archiver - Nov 24, 1953

M. Frank Darling is the head of local 1031 of the AFL Elec- trical Workers ... However, Mrs. Rose Dorfman, also sought on a , was ill and would not appear.

Recently, here, :

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=17614&view=findpost&p=224416

...I presented an well supported outline in arguing that Earl Warren was a thoroughly compromised contradiction.

Now here are things that do not add up that concern me.:

Drew Pearson published an Oct. column telling readers that Tom Clark had told him in 1946 that the men who ran the Chicago mob were businessmen who had names familiar in every household, some say they had reformed, but they still ran organized crime in Chicago.

In 1974, as editor of "Drew Pearson Diaries", Pearson's stepson, Tyler Abell, named those names.

In a 1977 IRE reporter's investigation of the Phoenix car bomb murder of Don Bolles, a series of IRE articles confirmed that the names Abell had published three years earlier, were found by IRE to have deep and top tier ties to interstate, organized crime.

Drew Pearson was close to Earl Warren and they vacationed together. Pearson's stepson's wife, Bess Abell, was Ladybird Johnson's appointment secretary and Tyler Abell accepted an LBJ appointment as Chief of Protocol at the Dept. of State.

Warren's friend, Sen. Knowland, with the help of Lester Velie, exposed the mob ties of Paul Ziffren. Just after the WCR is completed, and 5 years after Velie's article on Ziffren in Reader's Digest Ziffren to resign as chairman of the California democratic party, Warren picks Ziffren's son as his law clerk.

Tom Clark and Pearson have known since 1946 that Henry Crown and Conrad Hilton were accused of being in the Chicago mob hierarchy, and Pearson is still writing about it in Oct., 1963, but outwardly, Warren seems to have no problem with his daughter Virginia traveling the world with Hilton and practically being a fixture at Hilton's side.

Tom Clark appoints Crown's son as his Supreme Court law clerk, signs off on Earl Warren's proposal to appoint Jenner to the WC, and Jenner hire Crown's son and makes him a law partner, and later sits on the board at Crown's General Dynamics.

The TFX scandal involving Henry Crown and Gen. Dyn. is so hot in late October, 1963, it forces the resignation of Navy secretary, Fred Korth, Don Bolles is spilling his guts on TFX related corruption to minority senate members of the McClellan committee on the afternoon JFK was killed, and the TFX investigation abruptly ends by 15 December, 1963.

Albert Jenner determines that LHO and Ruby acted alone by late summer, 1964 (or was it in late December of '63?), and serious people declare the murders solved, forevermore.

No, John, Earl Warren and Nick Katzenbach stink worse than LBJ.

Not many were closer to LBJ and his wife than Mr. & Mrs. Tyler Abell. I cannot believe that Abell would work for the man, allow his wife to work for the Johnsons, and then publish a book that states that Tom Clark said Crown, Hilton, and Annenberg were in the Chicago mob hierarchy, if he suspected at all that LBJ was involved in anything more serious than the cover up.

Warren could have stopped the placement of the Dorfman interests best hope, Jenner, on the WC, and Katzenbach was in the next best position to call a halt to it after the appointment of Jenner was made.

Drew Pearson could have convinced Warren to distance himself and his family from Crown and Hilton.

Nobody did anything, aside from making believe no one was dirty and acting accordingly, except for Tyler Abell publishing the book in 1974, sourced from contents of the Pearson files.

I've described this background, documented it; it is part of the record, but it influences no one deeply familiar with what has been written in books on the subject.

There are 68 "watchers" of the wikipedia article on Earl Warren. http://toolserver.org/~mzmcbride/watcher/?db=enwiki_p&titles=Earl_Warren

They are wikipedia editors who have elected to be notified whenever and edit of that pristine, one sided Warren article is edited. I predict they are going to be working O.T., very soon.

[John Dolva]

Acnowledged, Tom. I'll mull on it.

One can reasonably assume that Warren (and Katzenbach) were pretty intelligent. The CIC is dead. Kennedys men are forced out. Warren had the unenviable task of producing the presidential commission (where IMO Katzenbach produces a memo that's, imo, open to interpretation). Here is Hoovers reported interpretation.

In this hiatus Warren oversaw the compiling of vast amounts of data that contradicted the thin one volume report which was probably all that much of the public based their opinions on, initially..

Having produced such an obviously contradictory and flawed investigation in toto, it meshes well with Katzenbachs memo that essentially asked for a report that would leave no doubt. This did not happen. It could be read as a strike back in perhaps the only way possible at the time?

[Robert Howard]

Acnowledged, Tom. I'll mull on it.

One can reasonably assume that Warren (and Katzenbach) were pretty intelligent. The CIC is dead. Kennedys men are forced out. Warren had the unenviable task of producing the presidential commission (where IMO Katzenbach produces a memo that's, imo, open to interpretation). Here is Hoovers reported interpretation.

In this hiatus Warren oversaw the compiling of vast amounts of data that contradicted the thin one volume report which was probably all that much of the public based their opinions on, initially..

Having produced such an obviously contradictory and flawed investigation in toto, it meshes well with Katzenbachs memo that essentially asked for a report that would leave no doubt. This did not happen. It could be read as a strike back in perhaps the only way possible at the time?

The Hawley Family may be a big part of the engineering-related backdrop in Dallas in the decades lerading up to the JFK Assassination.

There is a book entitled

A Century in the Works: Freese and Nichols Consulting Engineers, 1894-1994

by Freese, Simon W.; Sizemore, Deborah Lightfoot.

Publication: College Station Texas A&M University Press, 1994.

In that book you will discover that a Major Hawley, who died in the aftermath of America's entry into World War II in the Pacific

was "regional engineering adviser to the Dallas Loan Agency of RFC, with responsibility for examining engineering plans and loan applications submitted to the corporation. In 1933-34 he was appointed to the board of engineers of the West Texas Chamber of Commerce, again to pass upon the engineering adequacy of plans submitted for RFC loans. Hawley, Freese & Nichols did everything possible to help the firm's clients through the unfamiliar RFC application process. The firm tackled the legwork as well as the paperwork. Nichols spent several days in August and October, 1932, in Washington, appearing before the Engineers Advisory Board of RFC to represent Tarrant County Water Control and Improvement District Number One. The district sought a $450,000 self-liquidating loan for its flood control and water supply project. RFC's response was positive and timely. In October, the district's directors, contractors, and engineers celebrated Eagle Mountain Dam's completion and final inspection with a dam site barbecue. In November, word came that RFC had granted the $450,000 loan, enabling the district to make payments owed to the contractors and to Hawley, Freese & Nichols.

page 255, Shortly after Jones and Gooch became associated with the firm, two more recent civil engineering graduates came in. Robert A. Thompson III, a 1955 graduate of the University of Texas, was in the U.S. Navy doing hydrographic and geodetic location work before joining the firm in 1958. For two years, Thompson was assistant hydrographic officer on the U.S.S. Tanner and made a hydrographic survey of the eastern Mediterranean Sea. His early field duties for Freese & Nichols would include surveying, inspection, concrete and soil samples testing, and construction administration of Texas Industries' Midlothian Dam, Brady Dam, Greenbelt Dam, and the Robert Lee reservoir...."

It is quite the interesting read......

[Guest Tom Scully]

I posted the first part of this post yesterday, on another thread.

...Now, we know much about DeMohrenschildt...his brother was Bush's roommate's stepfather, DeM dated Jackie's mother and knew Jackie when she was a girl, he shpeherded LHO, seemed to know everyone, was important enough to "unretire" Tom Devine of the CIA, for a meeting along with Clemard Charles. 14 year after the assassination of JFK, George DeM., in the midst of an Reader's Digest assigned interview, takes an afternoon break, receives a message from HSCA's investigator Fonzi, and allegedly blows his brains out and dominates one last news headline cycle.

I submit that James K. Cogswell, III falls into the DeM and Abramoff category. The man is the grandson of a Spanish_American War Admiral hero, and the nephew of a 20th century naval standout. A WWII destroyer is named after the two, and Cogswell, III serves on the ship as an officer, with distinction, through many combat perils, until after VJ day and the occupation of Japan.

His aunt, the widow of the second Cogswell, naval namesake, is a retired CIA secretary by 1954. Cogswell serve on the naval destroyer named after his family, during the final year of the war with the first US astronaut in space, and the fifth human to walk on the moon, Alan B. Shepard.

Cogswell seems to have graduated from The Gunnery School in Washington, CT in 1939, with the prominent Berkeley professor and mathematician, David Gale. In 1942, DeMohrenschildt rooms in Washington DC for a few weeks with naval officer Harry Hull, a man whose mother-in-law since 1939, was Cogswell's aunt, Bianca.

In 1954, Cogswell's first cousin on his mother's (Hennenger) side, Susan Estabrook Lewis, marries for life, the former OSS chief secretariat, Alvah Woodbury Sulloway .

In 1953, Cogswell, III marries for a second time, to Joan Farish, daughter of Stephen Power Farish, uncle of Bush friend, Will Farish III. Cogswell's best man was George O. Walbridge, 2d.

Walbridge turns up in a 1955 newspaper photo, standing in Havana, next to his boss, Lem Billings of Emerson Drug Co., and the former Cuban dictator Prio's former press secretary.

It turns out that both Lem Bilings and Walbridge are very close to, and employed by the grandson of the Emerson Drug Co. founder, who also is the nephew by the marriage of Nina McaDoo TO George DeM's late uncle, Ferdinand DeMohrenschildt.

Later reports, including by the HSCA, are that Cogswell, III worked for the CIA, raised money to finance at least one plot to assassinate Castro, knew and socialized with George DeM. and with DeM's other contact, Joseph F. Dryer, was a friend of AMRAZZ-1, aka Joaquin Godoy, and with Antonio Veciana, and had an only sister, Theodora, described in an HSCA report as being acquainted with "Livingston" aka Mitchell Werbell.

Let's see....did I miss anything???? ....

Even at the OSS Society, Alvah Sulloway's was evidently such a low key presence, he was referred to in their newsletter in 2001 as "her".

http://www.google.com/search?q=+sulloway+dulles&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aunofficial&source=hp&q=%22*journals+from+1892-1997.+Material+includes+her+years+with+the+OSS+Secretariat%2C+%22&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c4b94ef403c105f7

OSS Society Newsletter - Winter 2001

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journals from 1892-1997. Material includes her years with the OSS Secretariat,...

http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20030108-NEWS-301089968?cid=sitesearch

January 08, 2003 2:00 AM

Alvah Sulloway is a man who has learned throughout his career when to a keep secret and when not to.

....During World War II, Sulloway worked under OSS director Maj. General William J. Donovan in Washington, D.C.

"I was in charge of overseeing the distribution of cables ... that came in from all over the world," he said, before noting many of those correspondences were classified as top-secret...."I think my experience working for General Donovan made me less fearful of doing something different," he said....

Well, the answer to the question above was quick in coming. In the obituary of

John Farr Hawley, husband of a first cousin of Cogswell, III, Hawley's family thought

it was important enough of a detail to share the fact that Hawley was a law school classmate of John Connally, and we know that Henry Wade was a classmate of both men.

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ENGAGED TO WED LIEUTENANT WYGANT

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Pay-Per-View - The Sun - Aug 11, 1907

MISS KATHERINE LHEFFENGER. The engagement ofMiss KathaflneLaneHeffengerHoLifen*_ Benyouard ygan*t UniTed states Nayyi was announced*in The SbNyesteVdayvyV_& ...

Piersons Plan Long Stay at Washington

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Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - Oct 22, 1933

MISS BARBARA WYGANT. Members of the younger navy set at the harbor are ... grandmother Mrs Arthur C Heffenger of Boston This is MIss Wygant's visit to the ...

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Ravinia 'Music Under Stars' Opens 10th Season Saturday

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Pay-Per-View - Chicago Tribune - Jun 28, 1945

Lt John Farr of the naval reserve and his bride of last Salur day the former Barbara Bourne Wygant have gone to Oakland Cal to stay there ... Haw ley son of Mr and Mrs Abraham Lincoln Hawley of El Paso Tex re ceived his degree from the ...

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MISS VAN NESS WED TO A NAVY OFFICER; Member of Spars...

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$3.95 - New York Times - Mar 5, 1945

Lieutenant Cogswell, an alumnus of the Gunnery School and Amherst College, is a grandson of the late Dr. and Mrs. Arthur Cowton Heffenger and the late Rear...

http://www.genealogybuff.com/tx/smallcounties/webbbs_config.pl/noframes/read/2928

Texas Obituaries Collection - El Paso County - 11

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Friday, November 15, 2002 JOHN HAWLEY was born in El Paso on October 8 ... He graduated in the same law class as John Connally and practiced ....John received his midshipman training at Abbott Hall Naval Midshipmen's School in Chicago and was assigned to LST duty, eventually participating in the landing at Leyte Gulf. After the war he was appointed to fill a judgeship in El Paso. He later moved to Montclair, New Jersey with his wife Barbara and son John and daughter...

Law School Composite Photographs Index of Names 1884-1959

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1938

Faculty-Staff:

Bailey, E. W.

Bennett, Dale

Calhoun, J. W.

Crane, Edward

Dodson, Mattie

Hargrave, Helen

Hildebrand, Ira P.

Huie, W. O.

Keeton, Page

Moore, Lucy M.

Oliver, Covey T.

Schmidt, Benno

Shirley, Robert P.

Smith, Bryant

Stayton, R. W.

Stumberg, G. W.

Walker, A. W., Jr.

Wickes, Joseph A.

Students:

Agress, Alfred M.

Andrews, Roy M.

Barker, Howard G.

Bennett, Roy P., Jr. (Editor Texas Law Review)

Black, Earl M.

Bonner, Brenda

Bray, Clayton

Brock, Ralph

Burdeaux, Maurice

Cain, Clacy Malvin

Camiade, Emile Bernard, Jr.

Carnes, John P.

Casseb, Solomon, Jr.

Chuoke, Peter M., Jr., (Case Note Editor Law Review, Pres. Senior Class Fall Term)

Clarke, Richard G., Jr.

Cobb, Robert

Connally, John B., Jr.

Cook, Raymond A. (Permanent Secy.)

Cosgrove, Nicolas P.

Counts, Katherine

Creager, E. B.

Croom, John A.

Darr, George Charles, Jr.

Dawson, John

Dickson, Ralph P.

Doehring, Sweeney J.

Duckett, Jesse James

Eckhardt, Robert C.

Edwards, Tilden H.

Engdohl, Eugene Harold

Ferguson, Hugh, Jr.

Floore, Heard L.

Ford, John W.

Francis, William H., Jr. (Pres. Senior Law Class Spring Term)

Goggans, James Lawson, Jr.

Goldston, Joseph C.

Goodrich, William W. (Quizmaster)

Green, John Plath

Guitar, James, Jr.

Harlan, Joe

Hawley, John Farr

Hayre, J. M.

Heard, Frank L., Jr.

Heath, Milton

Herring, Charles F.

Hochman, Emanuel Moses

Holland, Bill L.

Howard, A. Ryland

Hughes, Barbara

Hurwitz, William

Huser, Paul

Hutcheson, Jr., Palmer

Huth, Alvin L.

Irons, David B.

Irvin, R. Briggs

Jackson, Randolph M.

Jennings, James T.

Johnson, Herbert M.

Johnson, John W., Jr.

Johnson, Nancy Kerr

Johnson, Robert C.

Jones, William Leighton

Kalmans, Yale

Kennedy, Harold L.

Kennelly, Clyde B.

Latham, Lynn

Lea, Ross Bowlin

Lesikar, John W.

Lewis, George L.

Loftis, Austin

Logan, John D.

Logan, Warren C., Jr.

Lore, James Andrew, Jr.

Lowther, John A.

Lucia, Vincent J., Jr.

McDaniel, Gordon D.

McDonald, Francis Goodall

McKay, Morris

Maniscalco, Peter

Markward, Forrest, Jr.

Marshall, Robert C.

Matthews, Wayne

Mays, Tom J.

Means, Wyatt B.

Miller, Bradford F.

Morgan, C. A.

Motley, Howard S.

Nelson, Louis V. (Comment Editor Law Review)

Newberry, Fred K.

Newman, Katherine Ruth

Nicholas, William E., Jr.

Oldham, Beatty

Owen, Jack

Owens, W. Wroe

Pannill, F. H.

Patterson, W. B., Jr.

Penland, Harvey

Pierce, R. M.

Pike, George E.

Pipkin, H. C., Jr.

Pittenger, William A.

Powell, Richard H.

Preston, J. M.

Pritchard, Ed S., Jr.

Rovel, Victor W.

Reams, Sam G.

Richter, Francis C.

Roquemore, O. B., Jr.

Rothell, Henry H.

Russell, James H.

Rylander, Ashlee G.

Sagebiel, Agnes E.

Sanders, H. W.

Sapp, Charles

Schwartz, Armand G.

Scott, James H.

Sellers, Robert M.

Sergeant, Frank C., Jr.

Shelton, Thomas O., Jr.

Slay, W. H., Jr.

Smith, J. Orville

Smith, W. Hightower

Sparks, Jack

Sperry, Joseph Hall

Sprain, Marvin

Staley, J. I., Jr.

Starley, J. H.

Steger, Hugh L.

Storey, W. L.

Termini, James Thomas

Thompson, James E.

Tipps, Kelly

Tipton, Tom L., Jr.

Townsend, Jack N., Jr.

Traweek, W. H.

Tyler, Fisher Ames

Underwood, J. Tall

Urrea, Alberto Trevino

Vance, Roy C., Jr.

Vaughan, Roland C.

Wade, Henry M., Jr. (President of Law School)

Walley, W. Gail, Jr.

Warburton, J. O. E.

Ward, Roy P.

Washburn, Roy M.

Wassell, J. McClellan

Watson, Hubert L.

Weddell, Robert V.

Whitsett, Emmett L., Jr.

Whittington, Marvin Edward

Wier, Max Harris, Jr.

Wood, John H., Jr.

Woodward, Nicholas R.

Wulff, Fred

........

The Hawley Family may be a big part of the engineering-related backdrop in Dallas in the decades lerading up to the JFK Assassination.

There is a book entitled

A Century in the Works: Freese and Nichols Consulting Engineers, 1894-1994

by Freese, Simon W.; Sizemore, Deborah Lightfoot.

Publication: College Station Texas A&M University Press, 1994.

In that book you will discover that a Major Hawley, who died in the aftermath of America's entry into World War II in the Pacific

was "regional engineering adviser to the Dallas Loan Agency of RFC, with responsibility for examining engineering plans and loan applications submitted to the corporation. In 1933-34 he was appointed to the board of engineers of the West Texas Chamber of Commerce, again to pass upon the engineering adequacy of plans submitted for RFC loans. Hawley, Freese & Nichols did everything possible to help the firm's clients through the unfamiliar RFC application process. The firm tackled the legwork as well as the paperwork. Nichols spent several days in August and October, 1932, in Washington, appearing before the Engineers Advisory Board of RFC to represent Tarrant County Water Control and Improvement District Number One. The district sought a $450,000 self-liquidating loan for its flood control and water supply project. RFC's response was positive and timely. In October, the district's directors, contractors, and engineers celebrated Eagle Mountain Dam's completion and final inspection with a dam site barbecue. In November, word came that RFC had granted the $450,000 loan, enabling the district to make payments owed to the contractors and to Hawley, Freese & Nichols.

page 255, Shortly after Jones and Gooch became associated with the firm, two more recent civil engineering graduates came in. Robert A. Thompson III, a 1955 graduate of the University of Texas, was in the U.S. Navy doing hydrographic and geodetic location work before joining the firm in 1958. For two years, Thompson was assistant hydrographic officer on the U.S.S. Tanner and made a hydrographic survey of the eastern Mediterranean Sea. His early field duties for Freese & Nichols would include surveying, inspection, concrete and soil samples testing, and construction administration of Texas Industries' Midlothian Dam, Brady Dam, Greenbelt Dam, and the Robert Lee reservoir...."

It is quite the interesting read......

Okay, to sum it up, Cogswell, III was described as CIA, as was the guy he "located" for the HSCA, Joseph F. Dryer. Cogswell's aunt, the widow of Captain Cogswell, the brother of Cogswell's father, is described as a CIA "secretary" who retired in 1954. Cogswell's sister, Theodora Cogswell Deland, is described as knowing "Livingston" of "Winston, Mass.", a man introduced to Veciana, and now, in addition to a first cousin of Cogswell marrying former OSS Secretariat, Alvah Sulloway, there is new information that the daughter of Cogswell's father' sister Bianca, Louisa Catherine Clement, worked for OSS in San Francisco. I've already posted that cousin Louisa Catherine married Harry Hull, the Navy officer George DeMohrenschildt roomed with for several weeks in DC.:

http://articles.boston.com/2011-06-20/bostonglobe/29680411_1_alpine-plants-uplands-american-rock-garden-society/2

Catherine Hull; acclaimed as gardener, beloved as person

June 20, 2011|By Gloria Negri, Globe Staff

...A passionate horticulturist and a member of the Trustees of Reservations preservation group, Mrs. Hull died of cancer on May 22 at her Manchester home. She was 88.

She was the widow of Retired Rear Admiral Harry Hull and a descendant of presidents John and John Quincy Adams.

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....Louisa Catherine Adams Clement was born in Newburyport to Clarence Erskine and Bianca Cogswell Harrington Clement. On her father’s side, she was a direct descendant of the Adams presidents. During the Great Depression, she and her half-sister, Bianca Harrington, lived several years in Paris with their mother, then a widow. It gave Katrink a chance to become fluent in French, a language she maintained, along with Spanish and Italian.

She learned Spanish during a summer spent in Havana, during her junior year at Bryn Mawr. She graduated from there cum laude with a major in history in 1943. That same year, she married Harry Hull, an Annapolis graduate who would become a rear admiral. They had met at a debutante party in 1939 in Washington, D.C., where Mrs. Hull was living with her mother. At her own coming-out party, she turned her gifts of money over to the British ambassador to support the British war effort.

Until the birth of their first child in 1945, Mrs. Hull worked for the Office of Strategic Services in San Francisco while her husband was serving on submarines in the Pacific....

...In the course of Rear Admiral Hull’s naval career, the family lived on both the West and East coasts, in Hawaii in the early 1950s, and for three years in Naples, in the late 1950s and early 1960s, where he was assigned a tour of duty....

....From 1967 to 1977, her husband was director of the International Business Center of New England, dedicated to promoting world trade. He died in 2001. Mrs. Hull lived at the Uplands for 39 years before moving to another home in Manchester....

Adm. Harry Hull's mother was widowed and married the brother of four star Navy Admiral William K Phillips in 1925, when Harry was 13.

DeMohrenschildt picked an interesting spot to room in DC for a couple of weeks in 1942. His landlord, later Rear Admiral, Paul Joachim, was the victim of an unsolved 1962 Chicago shooting, and Joachim's step-father was Carl A. Joerissen, the designer of the Underwood Kata-Kana typewriter.

[Guest Tom Scully]

Douglas Caddy posted about author David Pitts and his book, here back in 2007.:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10098&st=0&p=103985&hl=pitts&fromsearch=1entry103985

http://woolfandwilde.com/2009/08/the-untold-story-of-jfk-and-his-gay-best-friend-of-30-years/

The Untold Story of JFK and His Gay Best Friend of 30 Years

The recent death of Ted Kennedy prompted me to pick up some of the Kennedy books I have lying around the house and I have just re-read a book about JFK that shook my world a couple of years ago. It illuminates a story about a beloved president that was never told prior to this book being published. It’s been hidden from history, or at least overlooked by every biography ever written about JFK....

.....KH: Lem was a friend of the Kennedy family during the time that JFK was alive, and also after he was assassinated. Did you have any sense that this was a story that they didn’t necessarily want to have told?

DP: No, I can’t really say that. I mean, none of them agreed to an interview, although Eunice Kennedy Shriver who knew Lem very well came very close and then she became ill. So if I was to guess, and this is purely a guess, I think Bobby Kennedy and the other Kennedys knew this story was going to come out sooner or later. They probably checked me out — I’m sure they did — and were more willing to trust someone with a liberal political bent than some conservative writer who might try to use it in a sensational way. That would be my guess.

I did talk to a friend of Bobby Kennedy when I was trying to get these materials and when I was trying to talk to Bobby, by the name of Blake Fleetwood, who’s a blogger himself on the Huffington Post. He also knew Lem. He told me that the Kennedys have been burned so many times now in these conservative times by writers, they just are very very suspicious of writers, period. It’s not about this story in particular, it’s about any story. And so I think if you take him at his word, part of the reason must be just suspicion of journalists these days.....

....of JFK and His Gay Best Friend of 30 Years

The recent death of Ted Kennedy prompted me to pick up some of the Kennedy books I have lying around the house and I have just re-read a book about JFK that shook my world a couple of years ago. It illuminates a story about a beloved president that was never told prior to this book being published. It’s been hidden from history, or at least overlooked by every biography ever written about JFK.

John F. Kennedy is one of the most studied and written-about presidents of the 20th century. Aside from the remaining mysteries surrounding his assassination, there is little that is unknown about the life of the thirty-fifth president of the United States. Or so we thought.

In Jack and Lem, published by Avalon, writer David Pitts sets about uncovering the story of Jack Kennedy and his closest and dearest friend in the world for 30 years, Lem Billings — a gay man.

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Jack and Lem met while at prep school in the 1930s and from that point on were inseparable until the day Jack Kennedy was killed. Pitts worked for two years to persuade Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. to grant him research access to documents that have been locked away for decades. Letters between the two friends, recorded phone calls, and even an 800+ page transcription of an oral history that Lem Billings gave after the death of the president. Pitts also combed through hundreds of photographs never seen by the public, many of which he was allowed to publish in the book, and interviewed anyone and everyone he could who knew Jack and Lem so he could tell, as accurately as possible, the story of a president and his gay best friend.

This well-told account paints a tender, moving portrait of what the author calls “an extraordinary friendship,” the details of which enchant and move the reader. Anecdotes about Lem having his own room in the White House, how Jackie Kennedy dealt with having a third person in her marriage and other bits of lost history aren’t taught in any school text books, but they are told in this book — for the first time.

I interviewed David Pitts about Jack and Lem when this book came out. It’s important to me that this story not be forgotten and now, as we say goodbye to to Ted Kennedy and Eunice Kennedy and regard the legacy of Camelot, this seems like a good time to share it again.

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Kenneth Hill: How would you characterize the friendship between JFK and Lem Billings?

David Pitts: The way I would characterize it is that is was a very close, deep, friendship across sexual orientation lines.

KH: How did you first learn about it?

DP: I first learned about the friendship from reading JFK books. I am such a Kennedy fan that I read most of the new JFK books that came out over the years. Lem was mentioned in some, but there was always very little information about him — usually one or two pages — and I just became curious about, well, who exactly is this guy? And that’s how this book that I wrote came about.

KH: How did you find out who he was?

DP: The first thing I did was to look at all the books again to see what had been said about him, which, as I said, was very little. Then I then compiled a list of people to call, people to interview that I thought might know more. I also set about trying to track down documents in various institutions — most notably the John F. Kennedy Library and the Massachusetts Historical Society. And on the latter, I hit a big brick wall early on in the project, which is why it took so long. Most of the documents, including, very significantly, an 815-page oral history done by Lem were closed to writers and authors. Many of the quotes of Lem in the book are from that document. And it was closed at the Kennedy Library and required the permission of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. to access it, and he didn’t give it to me for a long, long time.

KH: How long?

DP: I would say about two years. Two years into the project before Bobby, I guess, got tired of me pestering him.

KH: Why do you think there was resistance?

DP: I don’t know. I’ve been asked that quite a few times — usually I’m asked why he in fact GAVE me the documents — but I really don’t know. I can’t answer that. He didn’t agree to an interview, I wanted an interview, as well, but he did give me the documents which in a sense were more valuable. But when he decided to give me the materials, he gave me everything without restriction, including the ability to copy them as well as quote from them.

KH: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Lem were close when Bobby was a young man, right?

DP: Yes, that’s how Bobby ended up with control to most of the materials. Lem knew Bobby from when he was very young, of course, Lem being an intimate of the Kennedys, and when Lem died in 1981 his belongings passed into the possession of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Some of his things went into the possession of his neice, Sally Carpenter.

KH: Lem was a friend of the Kennedy family during the time that JFK was alive, and also after he was assassinated. Did you have any sense that this was a story that they didn’t necessarily want to have told?

DP: No, I can’t really say that. I mean, none of them agreed to an interview, although Eunice Kennedy Shriver who knew Lem very well came very close and then she became ill. So if I was to guess, and this is purely a guess, I think Bobby Kennedy and the other Kennedys knew this story was going to come out sooner or later. They probably checked me out — I’m sure they did — and were more willing to trust someone with a liberal political bent than some conservative writer who might try to use it in a sensational way. That would be my guess.

I did talk to a friend of Bobby Kennedy when I was trying to get these materials and when I was trying to talk to Bobby, by the name of Blake Fleetwood, who’s a blogger himself on the Huffington Post. He also knew Lem. He told me that the Kennedys have been burned so many times now in these conservative times by writers, they just are very very suspicious of writers, period. It’s not about this story in particular, it’s about any story. And so I think if you take him at his word, part of the reason must be just suspicion of journalists these days.

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KH: You said that this was the story of a friendship that crossed sexual orientation lines, which I think is really an interesting element of it, but talk a little bit about the depth of this friendship. The fact that it started when they were very young and, from what I read in the book, they were basically inseparable for the rest of their lives except when circumstances had them in distant cities.

DP: Yes, indeed. I think there were a number of elements to it. First of all, there were a series of bonding events early on. One was the fact that they both hated that school [Choate] in which they met. And were engaged in all kinds of pranks which almost got them expelled twice. That was obviously a bonding phenomenon. Secondly, they roomed together for part of the time at the school.

Thirdly, and I think this is really important, John Kennedy was so sick most of his life, far earlier than when most people think, including when he was at Choate, and Lem was the person at boarding school — his mother and father did not come to the school when he was ill; Lem was there. Lem was the person who was always there for him and took care of him. And then fourthly, there was the two month trip to Europe that they took, just before WWII in 1937, just the two Americans at that pivotal time, I think that was obviously a very strong bonding event.

And then over and above these issues, I would say this — and this is kind of a complicated thought because we really don’t have language to express these kinds of relationships — and that is, I’m firmly convinced after working on this book that John Kennedy’s sexual interests were in women. We don’t need much evidence of that, the evidence is all over the place. But his strongest emotional attachments were to men — and principally, to Lem. We don’t have a word for that, right? Somebody who prefers the opposite gender for sexuality, and the same gender for deep, emotional attachments.

KH: We don’t really have a word for that. I guess “man’s man” used to sort of mean that, but JFK took it so much further in a way because he loved being around men, he knew some men were attracted to him and even seemed to enjoy it. He liked the stimulation of those relationships, there was nothing sexual about it, but there was something about that male-male dynamic that fed him.

DP: I think that’s exactly right. There was one reviewer who wrote, “What’s the big deal here? This guy’s writing that JFK was comfortable with gay men, so big deal, we all knew that.” But of course it’s not the fact that he had a friend named Lem Billings who was gay. This was the closest person in all the world to him outside of his family for 30 years. He wasn’t just “a gay friend” on the side.

KH: One of the very surprising facts that comes out in this book is that Lem had his own room at the White House?

DP: Yes, that’s one of the revelations in the book that’s really surprising. And actually some of the people who were working in the White House very close to JFK didn’t know it. For example, Ted Sorensen whom I interviewed for the book, perhaps the closest aide to JFK, saw Lem around the White House all the time, but he told me he didn’t know that he’d had his own room there and was staying there so much of the time. But yeah, that’s another indication of the depth of the attachment.

One thing I was intent on doing when I wrote this book, because I thought it would be open to various forms of attack, is that I never went beyond what the documents said. The book is a lot of quotes from documents, or that interviewees said. This friendship might have contained a lot of things that I wasn’t able to find out because I didn’t want to enter the area of speculation.

KH: It seems without a doubt that Lem was in love with JFK. But it’s never stated explicitly because you don’t have any record of his ever saying that.

DP: No, I think the closest … I mean, these were more sedate times, especially where homosexuality is concerned. Even in the various documents, Lem is never overt in his statements. But there was one statement from one of the documents, and I have it in front of me here, that I think is just expresses his feelings. Here’s the quote: “Jack made a big difference in my life. Because of him, I was never lonely. He may have been the reason I never got married.”

This is somewhat of a difficult thought as well, but I think gay people had a way back then of telegraphing to future generations what their feelings were that they could not express candidly at the time. And anybody who reads some of these words today would have no doubt what Lem’s feelings were, but in the context of that time it was not obviously understood.

KH: There’s really very little discussion of Lem’s sexuality. He almost seems asexual in the book. I think there’s one incident where there’s some sort of rendezvous that was talked about, but there is an interesting passage where Jack and Lem do discuss something related to Lem’s sexuality. About a letter to Lem from Jack, this is what appears in the book:

“Jack makes a curious reference to Lem having been called a fairy, and Lem’s lack of resentment over the matter. ‘After you call someone a fairy,’ wrote Jack, ‘and discuss it for two solid hours, and argue about whether you did or did not go down on Worthington Johnson, you don’t write a letter saying that you think that fellow is a great guy, even if it’s true, which it was.’”

DP: Right. That is one example there. And you know, there might have been other examples in those letters, but we have to keep in mind that these letters went into Lem’s possession after JFK’s death, and I’m sure if there were any more candid letters — and he probably let that one slip through the cracks — that he probably would have destroyed them because he never was open about his sexuality all his life except with a few close friends.

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KH: There is a real sadness about that, but I guess it’s just a sign of the times and also the fact that he wanted to protect Jack’s reputation and thought that was one of the things he had to do.

DP: Yes, that’s pretty much what the people who knew him told me, that that was more important to him than anything else. And although he lived about 10 years after Stonewall, it was still the early days after gay liberation.

KH: You wrote that there was a tension and also an appreciation that existed between Jackie Kennedy and Lem. At one point Jackie is quoted as saying, “Lem Billings has been a house guest every weekend I’ve been married.” What was that relationship about? It seems like there was acceptance and also resentment.

DP: Right, I think it was both. All the people I interviewed about the relationship between Jackie and Lem — which I think is an interesting relationship in and of itself — agreed really on the nature of that relationship. There was no disagreement among any of the people who knew them both. And that is, she liked him. She had more in common with him than she did with JFK in many ways. She was interested in the arts like he was, she had the same kind of sensibility. She also appreciated the role he played in her marriage during all the rough spots in the early days, essentially.

And the evidence that she liked him, the proof of it really, is that after the assassination when she could easily have cut him loose, she didn’t. When the British invited her to England for the memorial for JFK at Runnymede, she asked Lem to go with her. She frequently visited him in Manhattan when she lived there in the 60s, and she also went to his funeral. So the evidence that she essentially liked him is there.

On the other hand, there is also evidence that she was frustrated at times that he was always there, he was there too often, and the quote you just gave from the White House usher, J.B. West, is evidence of that as well. So it’s a mixed relationship. Probably when you think about it, it’s a marriage of three people, so that attitude is understandable.

KH: It was the ‘Me, You and DuPree’ of Camelot! Also interesting is that in instances where Jackie was unavailable to go to a dinner or on a foreign trip, Jack took Lem along — almost like his partner.

DP: I worked with a good friend of mine on this, Mona Esquetini who is much better at research than I am, and sometimes we would come across things and we’d think, wow, this is amazing. For example, when JFK went to the Eisenhower inauguration in 1953. I read in the documentation that JFK took Jackie, his wife, and that’s understandable, but he also took Lem. So he’s taking two people to the Eisenhower inauguration.

Another example that blew our minds is when Lem was writing in his oral history about the fact that he went to Glen Ora, [JFK's] summer retreat in Virginia, almost every weekend when they were in town, and he’s writing things like, “Jack went to bed at 10:00 o’clock, and Jackie shortly thereafter, and I could hear the television going…” I mean, wow, this guy is like part of the marriage.

KH: It seemed that from the way history was presented in the book that on these trips, these dinners, etc, that he just took Lem along without any explanation. Like, he didn’t feel any need to say who this person was exactly, it was just, this person is with me.

DP: Right. One of the things I learned, actually I didn’t have to learn it since I’m old enough to remember those times, is how much was left unspoken. When I talked to Ben Bradlee for example at the Washington Post, who knew both men, and the first thing he said to me when I went in to interview him, before I asked him anything, was “I suppose you know was gay. It was kind of a secret within Camelot.” So I jumped right in on that and said did you ever talk to JFK about it, and how dangerous this was for him politically, and he said, “Oh no, everybody knew but that’s not the kind of thing you talked about in those days.” It just went unspoken.

KH: I sensed, too, that Lem was sad about having been sort of forgotten by history. One passage that struck me addresses this:

In all the books about Jack Kennedy, Lem said in an interview a few years before he died, “I’m referred to as a roommate from Choate, and then dropped. I don’t particularly want to be in books, but I resent being treated as a childhood friend who could then be dropped. You never see me in the last pages, and yet I was at his house every single weekend he was president. Jack was the closest person to me in the world for 30 years.”.....

....KH: Well, it’s a fascinating story. I think this is a wonderful gift that you’ve given to the world, and certainly to gay readers who are constantly uncovering things that have been hidden from history that tell us so much about ourselves. Is there anything else you want to mention about the book?

DP: I guess the only thing I would mention that has been kind of surprising to me is that there have been so many books that have been written about JFK — thousands, according to the Library of Congress — and many of them are repeating the same stories about Marilyn Monroe or the Cuban Missile Crisis, but this is a new story about JFK, unknown for most Americans, and yet mainstream media has almost totally ignored it. There hasn’t been one review of this book in any mainstream newspaper, including the Washington Post, and Ben Bradlee, the most famous editor of the Post, is a key source for this book. That’s a mystery to me. I think this is a story that would interest most Americans, as well as gay Americans, and the mainstream audience doesn’t know about it. That’s been frustrating.

KH: Why do you think they’ve ignored the book?

DP: I don’t know. I’m really, really mystified because having been in the news business myself, most of what reporters are interested in above all else is news, something that’s new. If I came across a new story about a much-remembered president, I would grab it. But so far, aside from a couple of stories, one was in the New Haven Register which is near the school where they went, that’s about it.

KH: That’s interesting — and mysterious.

DP: It is. I know somebody who knows a producer at CNN and I sent over a copy of the book to them, but so far I don’t know that they’ve done anything.....

I'm posting about David Pitts and his book because I was surprised by two things. Pitts apparently did not know that Feances McAdoo was George DeMohrenschildt's cousin. I did not know that JFK was a friend of Frances McAdoo. I believe JFK was the most hemmed in and most intensely surveilled, "murder victim to be" in history, yet I can still be surprised by the sheer extent of the examples.

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&tbo=1&q=kennedy+friend+frances+mcadoo&btnG=#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&tbo=1&tbm=bks&source=hp&q=%22Jack+also+persuaded+Francis+McAdoo%2C+Lem%27s+boss+at+his+previous+job*%22&pbx=1&oq=%22Jack+also+persuaded+Francis+McAdoo%2C+Lem%27s+boss+at+his+previous+job*%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=46033l48227l1l52898l4l4l0l0l0l0l170l601l0.4l4l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=6e314000b3075041&biw=1440&bih=715

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The Kennedy Women: The Saga of an American Family

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"Kick and Jack both had this enormous vitality, this will to live and enjoy," recalled Francis McAdoo. Cynthia McAdoo noted one peculiar aspect of her friend. "Kick talked about her father all the time that month, but never mentioned ..

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"Have been down the Cape weekend and am going down Sat. night to try to drive up with [Francis] McAdoo [a mutual friend]. Frances Ann Cannon is here and is plenty good. She may come down this weekend." Henceforth Frances Ann's name