JFK Encounter with Extraterrestial Intelligence

[Jim Phelps]

There is no OR, yet perhaps there is, thus you already know.

Yet, ye seek that others not know.

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Few people in the distant times from the JFK assassination don't recall that JFK's Camelot was the quest for Peace in Our time. Many born after the time of JFK don't even know these highly important history and the Beast that JFK faced in changing the direction from war to peace.

JFK started the Peace Core to address and sell Peace:

http://www.findingcamelot.net/speeches/statement-upon-signing-order-establishing-the-peace-corps/

The Soviets even got onto the band wagon in latter years and stopped waging expensive cold wars and started the Waging Peace methods.

Yet, when we study economics we find that the Royals in the UK are highly invested in weapons of war, the Jesuits of the Vatican are similarly invested in weapons for wars, and even the US Mil / Ind / Network is invested in war, and the Joint Chief support such. They even have to make little wars to keep these systems functional and funded. This was the ultimate debackle that JFK faced in moving the US toward Peace and not war.

Camelot was peave movement, and lots of people didn't like the change in financial concept.

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So, what else was going on around Nov. 12, 1963, this state dept brieting captures a good deal:

http://www.jfklancer.com/cuba/11-12-63.html

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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_paperclip.htm#contents

Citation:

This operation was renamed Paperclip and formally authorized in August 1945 by President Harry Truman, who was assured that no one with “Nazi or militaristic records” would be involved.

By mid-November, more Nazi scientists, engineers, and technicians were arriving in America, including Wernher von Braun and more than seven hundred other Nazi rocket scientists.

By 1955, nearly a thousand German scientists had been granted citizenship in the United States and given prominent positions in the American scientific community. Many had been longtime members of the Nazi Party and the Gestapo, had conducted experiments on humans at concentration camps, used slave labor, and committed other war crimes.

Von Braun, who in later years became the head of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), is one of the more recognizable names of the Paperclip scientists.

Others included:

Major General Walter Dornberger, a close associate of von Braun’s

Werner Heisenberg, physicist and Nobel laureate who founded quantum mechanics

gaseous uranium centrifuge expert Dr. Paul Harteck

Nazi atomic bomb physicist and military project leader Kurt Diebner

uranium enrichment expert Erich Bagge

1944 Nobel Prize winner Otto Hahn, called the “father of nuclear chemistry”

scientists Carl Friedrich von Weizsaecker, Karl Wirtz, and Horst Korsching

physicist Walter Gerlach

CNN reporter Linda Hunt’s 1991 book Secret Agenda: The United States Government, Nazi Scientists, and Project Paperclip, 1945–1990 first revealed the extent to which Nazi infiltration was aided by persons within the U.S. federal government and military.

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The Uranium Club:

http://www.mphpa.org/classic/MP_Misc/Bohr_Heisenberg/bohr_3.htm

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_energy_project

This particular NAZI reactor was a heavy water method that could well use natural uranium. But it was not the last of the NAZI persuits on nuclear projects:

http://hubpages.com/hub/World-War-II-Nazi-Nuclear-Weapons-Project

The reactors in Canada these days, the CANDU designs, work with natural uranium and D20 or Heavy water.

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More Generally:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_paperclip.htm#contents

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The NAZI scientists brought to the US technological advantages that we are still working on to this day. The came up with ideas like photoelectric effect for uranium enrichment, which in the US took for form of the AVLIS project or the Atomic Vapor LASER isotope separator, which was first developed in Oak Ridge at the K-25 plant.

http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/doe/tguav1a.html

The NAZI's were pretty advanced and also found that Thorium could be useful as a nuclear material, but it only needed a little boost with the addition of a slight amount of enriched uranium, either 235 or 233. This NAZI project involved a special reactor called The Bell, which had plates of thorium and carbon plate moderator that was not a contained system. This allowed all the fission fragments to ballistically escape the fissle elements surfaces and exit from the bottom of the large bell shaped container open at the bottom. The elements were likely suspended in chains or cables, as in their other designs. What this allowed was for extremely energetic near relativistic particles and rays to exit be bottom providing a lift like a rocket. The Bell was extremely dangerous to be around, as the radiation and fast gas emissions were deadly, but it did set the precident for nuclear methods to provide lift or flight. Other methods follow, using German discoveries like "Bremstralung effect from Beta Radiation to ionize air and this make it possible to drive it with MHD methods.

Some of the first reactors at ORNL were suspended plate designs with water moderation, except they added classing by compessing the HEU between plates of aluminum. Today, China and India are in persuit of the Thorium type reactors, as the problems are less than for the uranium cycle and thorium is more abundant.

Still other reactors used the Thorium Cycle like the MSRE at ORNL, which used Thorium blended with a little U-233 or plutonium and combined with sodium as a moderator. Other reactors like the Fireball ran nearly white hot temperatures and drew high level military visitors from Washington to see the spectacle. Oak Ridge had a building boom in reactors over the Nuclear Aircraft program that sought to do what the Glocken or Bell could do, Fly with nuclear energy. ORNL built tower shielding reactor to study the effects of radation and materials in air from a reactor suspended on 400 ft tall towers.

Hitler called the Nuclear Projects in Germany the Nasty Jewish Science Nuclear business because of all the issues with pollutants, which they didn't seem to solve. It was solved later in the US via encapsulation methods, which limits doing methods like the Bell. So, lots of the nuclear airplane projects sought other methods. One of the best was the Bremstralung Effects to ionize air, later methods for space use Neutral Beam injector methods.

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Edited May 18, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Jim Phelps]

http://www.jfklancer.com/cuba/11-12-63.html

FOREIGN RELATIONS OF THE UNITED STATES

1961-1963

Volume XI

Cuban Missile Crisis and Aftermath

DEPARTMENT OF STATE

Washington

376. Memorandum for the Record

Washington, November 12, 1963.

//Source: Department of State, INR Historical Files, Special Group Meeting No. 105, December 6, 1963. Secret; Eyes Only. For McCone's account of this meeting, see Document 375.

SUBJECT

Cuban Operations

A meeting was held this morning with higher authority on the above subject. Present were: Mr. Rusk, Mr. McNamara, Mr. Robert Kennedy, Mr. Bundy, Mr. McCone, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gilpatric, Mr. Vance, General Taylor, Mr. Helms, Mr. FitzGerald, Mr. Cheever, and Mr. Shackley.

Mr. McCone gave a brief summary of recent developments inside Cuba. He stated that the military is generally loyal to Castro. There have been some disorders but not very extensive. Castro's internal security forces appear to be well organized. He has developed a system of informers which is becoming increasingly effective. The economic situation is deteriorating largely because of the enforcement of economic sanctions, and Hurricane "Flora" although its damage was not as great as originally thought.

The Soviets appear to be continuing the gradual withdrawal of personnel from Cuba although recently 1,000-2,000 troops have come in. There now seems to be a kind of "Soviet MAAG" program concerned mainly with training Cubans in all types of military activity including the handling of missiles. There has been some removal of the more sophisticated types of electronic equipment. Some new tanks have arrived in Cuba, estimates run from 25 to 50.

Mr. FitzGerald reported on Cuban operations under six main headings: (a) Covert Collection, ( Propaganda, © Economic Denial, (d) Disaffections in the Military, (e) Sabotage and Harassment, and (f) Support of Autonomous Anti-Castro Groups.

(a) Covert Collection. Mr. FitzGerald pointed out that inside Cuba CIA has three kinds of agent activities: (1) "singleton," (2) collection nets, and (3) agents involved in "black net" operations. While there is encouraging improvement in the geographical spread of these agents, there is still, understandably, a fairly heavy concentration of agents in the Havana area.

A question was raised as to how many agents in all of these activities have been lost. Mr. FitzGerald said that in the neighborhood of 25 had been either captured or killed in the past year. The reasons for these casualty figures are the increasing effectiveness of Castro's internal security forces and discovery brought about when agents try to obtain food. No matter how good the documentation, an outsider in a community is viewed with suspicion.

( Propaganda. The activities of CIA in this field are the mailing of leaflets and radio broadcasts. Some 30-40,000 leaflets per month have been mailed and during a day there are 32 hours of programs emanating from seven different stations. It is believed that there is a very excellent listening public. The programs appeal to people in a wide variety of jobs and professions. There is some jamming but it is spasmodic and generally confined to Havana.

© Economic Denial. Mr. FitzGerald reported that the U.S. economic denial program is contributing to Cuba's declining economy. Mention was made that the economic denial program would be more effective if the Canadians were willing to cooperate. Up to now they have not gone along with U.S. efforts, and they are supplying many items essential to Cuban economy. The UK and Spain are continuing to deal in certain types of goods required by the Cubans. Commodities going into Cuba in 1962 from the free world reached $101 million. While this represents less than in 1961 the amount is still too high.

(d) Disaffections in the Military. While the military is loyal to Castro as has been noted there are indications that some leaders would like to break with the regime but lack courage and opportunity. Mr. FitzGerald commended a CIA-DIA task force which prepared a report covering some 150 Cuban military leaders. Out of this figure there are some 45 which look interesting from CIA's operational viewpoint. Mr. FitzGerald reported that CIA is in touch with three persons who are in the military or who have highly placed contacts in such circles. The aim is to use these three individuals to establish contact with military personnel inside Cuba. The principal aim is to get military leaders who have become disenchanted with the Castro regime to dare to talk and plot Castro's downfall with each other.

(e) Sabotage and Harassment. Mr. FitzGerald mentioned four successful sabotage operations against a power plant, oil storage facilities, a sawmill, and an underwater demolition operation against a floating crane in one of Cuba's harbors. It is believed that the publication of these successful sabotage activities in the Cuban press has tended to raise appreciably the morale of the people. Also, such sabotage continues to keep pressure on the Castro regime and adds to the growing economic problems facing the country.

(f) Support of Autonomous Anti-Castro Groups. The question was asked from where would the autonomous groups operate. Mr. FitzGerald replied that they would operate from outside U.S. territory. He mentioned two bases of the Artime group, one in Costa Rica and the other in Nicaragua. Also it was hoped that the autonomous group under Manolo Ray would soon get itself established in a working base, possibly Costa Rica. Mr. FitzGerald said that much could be accomplished by these autonomous groups once they become operational.

A question was asked as to what decisions remain to be made. Mr. FitzGerald replied that we were looking for a reaffirmation of the program as presented, including sabotage and harassment. When asked what was planned in sabotage for the immediate future, he said that destruction operations should be carried out against a large oil refinery and storage facilities, a large electric plant, sugar refineries, railroad bridges, harbor facilities, and underwater demolition of docks and ships. The question was also raised as to whether an air strike would be effective on some of these principal targets. The consensus was that CIA should proceed with its planning for this type of activity looking toward January.

The State Department raised questions with respect to sabotage activities in Cuba. The thought was advanced that there may be a relationship between such hit and run attacks on Cuba and the delay of American convoys en route to Berlin. A further question was posed as to the over-all importance to the United States of sabotage operations, especially since it is so difficult to keep them from being directly attributable to the U.S. It was thought that the hit and run type effort might in fact invoke loss of support inside Cuba and may even result in bringing more Soviet troops back into Cuba. Somehow the U.S. must pin responsibility for these activities on Castro. The U.S. in fact must be ready to retaliate when it can be fairly well established that Castro is attempting with arms, money and men to foment Communist uprisings in any Latin American country.

The consensus was that since CIA's sabotage operation is in the main low cost and since it does worry the Castro regime, denies him some essential commodities, stimulates some sabotage inside Cuba and tends to improve the morale of the Cubans who would like to see Castro removed, CIA should proceed with those operations planned for the coming week end (November 15 though 17).

The view was expressed that CIA, in connection with the Department of Defense, should concentrate on attempting to catch Castro red-handed delivering arms to Communist groups in Latin American countries. It was determined that during the next 90 days from this date an attempt would be made by means of air patrols and surface ships to identify ships carrying arms for Castro to Latin American countries. It was hoped that a ship with Cuban arms could be picked up. Conversations are to be initiated by the Secretary of the Navy with CIA to map out a three-month operation against Cuban shipping. It was also determined that the Colombian and Venezuelan governments should be asked to join with the U.S. in developing a joint patrol designed to identify ships carrying weapons from Cuba destined for revolutionary groups in Latin American countries.

Paul Eckel

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[William Kelly]

This is a very important document, but by placing it under a thread entitled: "Replying to JFK Encounter with Extraterrestial Intelligence" shows that you have no intention of actually elaborating why its important.

Bill Kelly

Jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com

http://www.jfklancer...a/11-12-63.html

FOREIGN RELATIONS OF THE UNITED STATES

1961-1963

Volume XI

Cuban Missile Crisis and Aftermath

DEPARTMENT OF STATE

Washington

376. Memorandum for the Record

Washington, November 12, 1963.

//Source: Department of State, INR Historical Files, Special Group Meeting No. 105, December 6, 1963. Secret; Eyes Only. For McCone's account of this meeting, see Document 375.

SUBJECT

Cuban Operations

A meeting was held this morning with higher authority on the above subject. Present were: Mr. Rusk, Mr. McNamara, Mr. Robert Kennedy, Mr. Bundy, Mr. McCone, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Gilpatric, Mr. Vance, General Taylor, Mr. Helms, Mr. FitzGerald, Mr. Cheever, and Mr. Shackley.

Mr. McCone gave a brief summary of recent developments inside Cuba. He stated that the military is generally loyal to Castro. There have been some disorders but not very extensive. Castro's internal security forces appear to be well organized. He has developed a system of informers which is becoming increasingly effective. The economic situation is deteriorating largely because of the enforcement of economic sanctions, and Hurricane "Flora" although its damage was not as great as originally thought.

The Soviets appear to be continuing the gradual withdrawal of personnel from Cuba although recently 1,000-2,000 troops have come in. There now seems to be a kind of "Soviet MAAG" program concerned mainly with training Cubans in all types of military activity including the handling of missiles. There has been some removal of the more sophisticated types of electronic equipment. Some new tanks have arrived in Cuba, estimates run from 25 to 50.

Mr. FitzGerald reported on Cuban operations under six main headings: (a) Covert Collection, ( Propaganda, © Economic Denial, (d) Disaffections in the Military, (e) Sabotage and Harassment, and (f) Support of Autonomous Anti-Castro Groups.

(a) Covert Collection. Mr. FitzGerald pointed out that inside Cuba CIA has three kinds of agent activities: (1) "singleton," (2) collection nets, and (3) agents involved in "black net" operations. While there is encouraging improvement in the geographical spread of these agents, there is still, understandably, a fairly heavy concentration of agents in the Havana area.

A question was raised as to how many agents in all of these activities have been lost. Mr. FitzGerald said that in the neighborhood of 25 had been either captured or killed in the past year. The reasons for these casualty figures are the increasing effectiveness of Castro's internal security forces and discovery brought about when agents try to obtain food. No matter how good the documentation, an outsider in a community is viewed with suspicion.

( Propaganda. The activities of CIA in this field are the mailing of leaflets and radio broadcasts. Some 30-40,000 leaflets per month have been mailed and during a day there are 32 hours of programs emanating from seven different stations. It is believed that there is a very excellent listening public. The programs appeal to people in a wide variety of jobs and professions. There is some jamming but it is spasmodic and generally confined to Havana.

© Economic Denial. Mr. FitzGerald reported that the U.S. economic denial program is contributing to Cuba's declining economy. Mention was made that the economic denial program would be more effective if the Canadians were willing to cooperate. Up to now they have not gone along with U.S. efforts, and they are supplying many items essential to Cuban economy. The UK and Spain are continuing to deal in certain types of goods required by the Cubans. Commodities going into Cuba in 1962 from the free world reached $101 million. While this represents less than in 1961 the amount is still too high.

(d) Disaffections in the Military. While the military is loyal to Castro as has been noted there are indications that some leaders would like to break with the regime but lack courage and opportunity. Mr. FitzGerald commended a CIA-DIA task force which prepared a report covering some 150 Cuban military leaders. Out of this figure there are some 45 which look interesting from CIA's operational viewpoint. Mr. FitzGerald reported that CIA is in touch with three persons who are in the military or who have highly placed contacts in such circles. The aim is to use these three individuals to establish contact with military personnel inside Cuba. The principal aim is to get military leaders who have become disenchanted with the Castro regime to dare to talk and plot Castro's downfall with each other.

(e) Sabotage and Harassment. Mr. FitzGerald mentioned four successful sabotage operations against a power plant, oil storage facilities, a sawmill, and an underwater demolition operation against a floating crane in one of Cuba's harbors. It is believed that the publication of these successful sabotage activities in the Cuban press has tended to raise appreciably the morale of the people. Also, such sabotage continues to keep pressure on the Castro regime and adds to the growing economic problems facing the country.

(f) Support of Autonomous Anti-Castro Groups. The question was asked from where would the autonomous groups operate. Mr. FitzGerald replied that they would operate from outside U.S. territory. He mentioned two bases of the Artime group, one in Costa Rica and the other in Nicaragua. Also it was hoped that the autonomous group under Manolo Ray would soon get itself established in a working base, possibly Costa Rica. Mr. FitzGerald said that much could be accomplished by these autonomous groups once they become operational.

A question was asked as to what decisions remain to be made. Mr. FitzGerald replied that we were looking for a reaffirmation of the program as presented, including sabotage and harassment. When asked what was planned in sabotage for the immediate future, he said that destruction operations should be carried out against a large oil refinery and storage facilities, a large electric plant, sugar refineries, railroad bridges, harbor facilities, and underwater demolition of docks and ships. The question was also raised as to whether an air strike would be effective on some of these principal targets. The consensus was that CIA should proceed with its planning for this type of activity looking toward January.

The State Department raised questions with respect to sabotage activities in Cuba. The thought was advanced that there may be a relationship between such hit and run attacks on Cuba and the delay of American convoys en route to Berlin. A further question was posed as to the over-all importance to the United States of sabotage operations, especially since it is so difficult to keep them from being directly attributable to the U.S. It was thought that the hit and run type effort might in fact invoke loss of support inside Cuba and may even result in bringing more Soviet troops back into Cuba. Somehow the U.S. must pin responsibility for these activities on Castro. The U.S. in fact must be ready to retaliate when it can be fairly well established that Castro is attempting with arms, money and men to foment Communist uprisings in any Latin American country.

The consensus was that since CIA's sabotage operation is in the main low cost and since it does worry the Castro regime, denies him some essential commodities, stimulates some sabotage inside Cuba and tends to improve the morale of the Cubans who would like to see Castro removed, CIA should proceed with those operations planned for the coming week end (November 15 though 17).

The view was expressed that CIA, in connection with the Department of Defense, should concentrate on attempting to catch Castro red-handed delivering arms to Communist groups in Latin American countries. It was determined that during the next 90 days from this date an attempt would be made by means of air patrols and surface ships to identify ships carrying arms for Castro to Latin American countries. It was hoped that a ship with Cuban arms could be picked up. Conversations are to be initiated by the Secretary of the Navy with CIA to map out a three-month operation against Cuban shipping. It was also determined that the Colombian and Venezuelan governments should be asked to join with the U.S. in developing a joint patrol designed to identify ships carrying weapons from Cuba destined for revolutionary groups in Latin American countries.

Paul Eckel

[Jim Phelps]

Well,

It does take time to build these things on these threads, and if you can stop wanting instant gratification, I might get around to making the needed associations sooner, rather than later.

I tend to compile and dump things into thread holding areas and come back and fill in the missing pieces as I am able to dig them up on the various Internet sources areas. This item will lead to further comments in due time. But not on your time.

How about trying to stop the controlling things, because you are not in control no matter how much you complaign. Because you do the things you do here, the EF tends to be the last to know, as I do the information builds elsewhere. I toss a few critical things here to come back to later. If you fuss about every one of those I toss over here, all it does is muck things up with extra chatter and distract from the overall need to keep the continuity.

May I suggest constructivity on your part?

[Jim Phelps]

http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/03/MS/2data.html

Triangle of Fire by Bob Goodman

Harold Norman confirms to Goodman that he heard shells hitting the

floor.(p. 77)

The Dal-Tex Building:

p. 87: discussion of the tenants of the building

p. 215: man with horn-rimmed glasses (photos pp. 212-213) arrested in

Dal-Tex tells Goodman his attorney has advised him not to discuss

the matter.

p. 216: Jim Braden may have visited Dallas Uranium and Oil rather than

looking for a pay phone, as he was upstairs. DU&O was located on

the west side of Dal-Tex, behind the fire-escape (the window from

which a rifle allegedly protrudes?)

pp. 216-217: There were no corporate records of Dallas Uranium & Oil;

Texas Secretary of State only listed Morty Freedman Inc.,

which shared a phone number with Dallas Uranium & Oil, and with

Marilyn Belt Mfg. (directory page, p. 243). DU&O may have been

a dummy corporation.

p. 217: Dallas area people in the uranium business were few, and included

Nelson Bunker Hunt and Morris Jaffe, the latter a close friend of

LBJ. Some believed he owned the Dal-Tex Building.

p. 218: Jaffe benefited from decisions made by the Atomic Energy

Commission under chairman John McCone, successor to Dulles as

CIA chief. Jaffe took over the bankrupt Billy Sol Estes estate.

Jaffe and H.L. Hunt worked together for LBJ in 1960 at the Los

Angeles convention. A reporter described Jaffe as the "money

man...the brains...the trouble-shooter...and smart beyond

imagination."(Jules Archer)

The Cover-Up:

pp. 91-92: Goodman reports that the widow of a retired Air Force

Intelligence man told him her husband had been offered a job in

1974 in Dallas writing disinformation about the JFK assassina-

tion along with a few other people. The group included a lady

from Dallas, a friend of theirs, and two others. All were civilians.

The lady worked for a Dallas law firm. Oil money paid the tab.

p. 94: The disinformation layers were: Communists/Russia, Castro/Cuba,

The C.I.A., and the Mafia.

p. 98: Goodman refers to the Dallas group as "the disinformation

society," and notes areas of research with which they won't

cooperate: Dal-Tex, H.L. Hunt, Clint Murchison, Gen. Charles

Cabell, the Del Charro Hotel, Dallas Citizens' Council. (all

neglected areas of research in the mainstream community;

the exceptions include Penn Jones and Anthony Summers).

p. 100: JFK eliminated funding for the White Russian Solidarists, many of

whom in the Dallas area were associated with the oil industry.

Oswald's Wallet:

p. 96: Although Oswald's wallet was seized by police, Goodman notes

Oswald left his wallet and money with Marina at the Paine home

that morning. (He may have had two wallets, or have left the

money but not the wallet).

James Worrell:

p. 121: hearing 4 shots, seeing a man leave the rear of the Depository.

p. 122: the man was about 5'7" to 5'10", 155-165 lbs., dark hair, dark

sports coat, not carrying anything.

p. 123: died in a "car-motorcycle accident" on Nov. 9, 1966; found lying

in a ditch; friends reported James' motorcycle was parked on the

kickstand, and the motor was still running when he was found.

Ed Hoffman:

p. 127: usually described as shy, Hoffman allegedly approached Goodman

and identified himself as an eyewitness.

p. 130: Goodman's photos give a good indication that Hoffman could have

seen what he has reported seeing from his location on Stemmons.

The Oil Industry:

pp. 138-139: notes Garrison's reports of an oil industry man who was

familiar with Guy Banister's part of the Garrison probe before

it was publicized, and offered Garrison a federal judgeship to

drop the JFK investigation. Goodman suggests the story may be

true, but that Garrison may have made a deal to simply change

the focus of the investigation from the oil industry to the CIA.

Edwin Walker:

p. 155: Robert Surrey's comment (Walker aide) to the Dallas Times-Herald

on Nov. 24, 1963 that "through official sources, we had traced

that man who shot at the general to California." Walker pushed

for the assassination investigations to be all held in Dallas.

p. 155-6: Walker's associate Billy James Hargis (Feb. 1963 nationwide

crusade).

p. 158: Carlos Bringuier spoke in a lecture series sponsored by Hargis.

H.L. Hunt:

p. 167: Hunt:"Everything I do, I do for a profit." Organizing support for

LBJ in 1960."Patriotism is always profitable."

p. 168: mailed out 102,000 of an anti-Catholic sermon by W.A. Criswell,

pastor of his church, during the 1960 campaign. Hunt proposed another

member of the First Baptist Church of Dallas, Billy Graham, as a 1964

presidential candidate, but Graham declined the idea.

p. 169: DPD Lt. George Butler sponsored a talk by Hunt to the Dallas

Police Association at the Baker Hotel, shortly before the Bay of

Pigs invasion. Butler also provided police security for Hunt. Butler

offered a local newspaper editor a printing job for the KKK, to

which he said half the Dallas Police belonged.

p. 170: Walker aide Robert Surrey had the financial backing of Hunt's

companies.

p. 171: Hunt hated black people and the civil rights movement.

p. 172: Hunt stated JFK was a traitor and should be shot. Craig Zirbel

reports Hunt admitting prior knowledge of a conspiracy to

assassinate JFK. The Hyatt Regency at Reunion, where the first three

ASK conferences were held, was owned by the Hunt family.

p. 173: Hunt blamed the assassinations of JFK & MLK on communist plots.

Clint Murchison:

p. 185: In 1951, Murchison and H.L. Hunt organized the pro-MacArthur

campaign in Texas, bringing the general to Texas for a speaking

tour. The three were photographed together in front of the Alamo.

p. 186: D.H. Byrd, owner of the Texas School Book Depository, was one of

the Del Charro crowd who regularly stayed at Murchison's exclu-

sive La Jolla, California hotel. Oilman Byrd was a co-founder of

the Civil Air Patrol. Bobby Baker received money from a Murchison

company, the Haitian American Company. [Note DeMohrenschildt's

Texas and Haitian connections]. Baker associate Thomas D. Webb Jr.

represented the Murchison interests in Washington.

pp. 186-187: Also implicated in the Baker scandal were an admiral, a general,

and a NASA executive, and the representative of a major Texas

defense contractor, unnamed by LIFE.

p. 187: Murchison-owned publisher Holt, RInehart and Winston (publisher

of Rush to Judgement, whose index doesn't include Murchison,

Judge Joe B. Brown or DeMohrenschildt) offered Judge Joe B. Brown

a lucrative book contract and an all-expenses paid trip to Del

Charro

during the Jack Ruby trial (July 21, 1964). He received a $10,000

advance for a book that was never published. The trip was paid

for directly by the Murchisons. The publisher paid for his trip to

New York City. This gave Murchison access to the manuscript.

p. 188: Murchison and Thomas Webb knew Ruby; DeMohrenschildt knew Murch-

ison and worked for one of his companies. The Vito Genovese Mafia

family owned 20% of the Murchison Oil Lease Company in the early

1950's. From 1955-1965, Murchison's business were the subject

of Federal probes.

pp. 188-189: Murchison owned the Del Mar race track, which employed

Sirhan Sirhan, and where J. Edgar Hoover often attended.

p. 189: Hoover recommended that Murchison hire Thomas D. Webb Jr.,

a 17 year FBI veteran and one of Hoover's administrative

assistants. Murchison:"Money is like manure. If you spread it

around, it does a lot of good." Murchison tried to drive Ross

Perot's computer company out of business.

p. 190: Perot's wealth wasn't based in oil, he was an equal opportunity

employer, and he never applied to join the Dallas Citizens Council.

p. 199: Murchison funded the anti-Semitic press, and Lincoln Rockwell's

Nazis.

Earwitnesses:

p. 201: Goodman talked with people who heard, but didn't see, the

assassination. Shots sounded like a string of loud firecrackers;

or "Baboom...boom-ba-boom....boom-ba-boom-boom"; more than

3 shots. One witness thought he was hearing a shootout, with

Secret Service firing back.

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There is a building in Washington DC that is right across from the air and space museum called the "Forrestal Building" that belongs to DOE or what was the USAEC.

Those who seek the truth take note that James Forrestal was killed due to what he called Zionist Agents after him, and he was one of the lead people that knew about the NAZI's coming into the US to boost the rocket games and the nucler games. And Zionists hate NAZI's and those that supported NAZI's. And James Forrestal was killed by Zionists and now the main US building for nuclear efforts carries his name.

Edited May 18, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Guest Tom Scully]

With less petty sniping----there might come understanding.

With the addition of supporting, independently researched details, and an occasional post on an already existing thread on the same subject, there might come less negative criticism.

Just one example, your connections of "Bloomfield" with DISC, industrial security, and FBI Divsion V, are unsupported.

Share something new with us, something you have found independently, from a reliable source.

I have disagreed with Jim DiEugenio on his opinion that Torbitt is to be completely dismissed as a source of meaningful leads. Henry Crown, Patrick Hoy, and Sidney Korshak, for example, are mentioned in Torbitt. I have posted more new details about Crown and Hoy than any other member of this forum.

After reading this thread, however, I am persuaded that Jim DiEugenio may be on to something.

IMO, Bill has not engaged in "petty sniping", he is trying to do you a favor. Post what impresses you from third parties, but then, please attempt to support what you post. You cannot support a link between Bloomfield and DISC, so why mention it?

If you do a google search, "education forum" Bloomfield , you may discover you have a new detail to add to a thread where Bloomfield has already been discussed. You may be persuaded you have no need to begin a new thread on the same subject, or you may read a post on the older thread that contains different, but better supported information than you were about to post.

I suspect this is an expanded version of what Bill was communicating to you.

There are many existing threads where the digging has been deeper, the majority of members active on this forum seem to operate in the spirit at least, of John Simkin's example of well documented, Spartacus reference pages. Bill, I know, is a member who tries to build on what already exists, with the intent of adding new, well supported information.

Another example.:

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&tbo=1&q=%22which+was+a+name+friedman+didn%27t+know.%22&btnG=Search+Books

Case MJ-12: the true story behind the government's UFO conspiracies - Page 234

Kevin D. Randle - 2002 - 311 pages - Preview

For example, he cited a memo written by George Marshall and sent on to President Truman that contained a second signature—that of CH Humelsine— which was a name Friedman didn't know. Humelsine was described as some sort of an executive ...

....In 1980, with seemingly little experience, aside from serving as an urban development aide in the NYC mayoral administration of Nancy Bush's wedding usher, John Lindsay, Michael Ainslie, age 36, is hired by chairman, CARLISLE H. HUMELSINE, as president of National Trust for Historic Preservation.

Somewhere after Sept., 1973, when Bush escorted Suzanne B. Hooker down the aisle to marry Ames Braga, and the mid 1980's, Michael Ainslie became Suzanne Hooker Ames's second husband.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=chairman%20historic%20preservation%20%22state%20department%22&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=pw&psj=1#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aunofficial&tbs=ar:1&tbm=nws&source=hp&q=%2242-yearold+State+Department+executive.+Mr.+Rusk+would+succeed+Chester+%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=%2242-yearold+State+Department+executive.+Mr.+Rusk+would+succeed+Chester+%22&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=32ad1a3119fd652c

DEAN RUSK TO HEAD ROCKEFELLER FUND; Assistant Secretary of...

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$3.95 - New York Times - Dec 6, 1951

At a meeting held at Williamsburg, Va., it was decided to extend the invitation to the 42-yearold State Department executive. Mr. Rusk would succeed Chester

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/01/28/obituaries/carlisle-humelsine-73-who-led-board-of-colonial-williamsburg.html

Carlisle Humelsine, 73, Who Led Board of Colonial Williamsburg

By SUSAN HELLER ANDERSON

Published: January 28, 1989

Jim, I am sure I can learn from you, and that I can share things with you that you may not already be aware of. The culture here is that the devil is in the details. We are all in the habit of challenging each other, and I think this is what sets this site apart from most other sources of assassination research.

By the way...are you aware that Leon Panetta was John Lindsay's executive assistant?

Edited May 17, 2011 by Tom Scully

[Jim Phelps]

Well Mr. Scully,

Perhaps you seem to be named after the famous X-Files person, rather interesting. I have noticed that you all have a distinct lack of respect from various individuals. I don't find that very helpful.

I think, in due time, that when one discoverers all the Alien's sciences, meaning German NAZI rocket science that became NASA Space "Extraterrestrial" science, that the threat is aptly named. The problem is that some of you can't wait for things to be developed and the backgrounder issues to be generated. I ask for patience and I get the opposite.

So, you seem to have an interest in Oak Ridge suddenly. So, look up how Sarin came into existance. You'll find the Germans did all the original efforts on the world's most electronegative element. If you look up the Manhattan Project's efforts on uranium you find this huge fluorine chemistry effort to make it in huge quantity and material sciences dedicated toward finding things compatable with UF-6.

The NAZI's didn't mix with the Manhattan Project, until well after the war. But the NAZI's rocket men knew fluorine made some of the hottest rocket fuels known. While Oak Ridge had a large fluorine production plant, located off on the perimeter of the plant, there came to be a larger unit at Cape Canaveral, Fla. The intention was to use it as main booster fuel, but it was overruled as too dangerous on planet earth. But it was used as the main propellat base for lunar lander things that required the most efficient of fuels.

The NAZI's also knew the uses of fluoride in Germany, as they invented the entire science of fluorine and fluorides there. That experience allowed them to find it had negative side effects on the human brain. Today, this is only being partially admitted by the work of Phyllis Mullinex and some others. The Manhattan Project F is still locked away that deals with these toxic effects from the choice on fluorine chemistry for Uranium. The Aluminum Companies followed a like course from the use of calcium fluoride as a flux in the boxite reduction, which was basically the source material for fluorine production. It dulled people's energy to think on higher planes and to resist authority. Yet, those most Socialistic of chemical population control games was allowed to be played against the citizens of the US in order to cover up the problems of Dupont at Peach Bottom and the problems of Manhattan Project proper at Buffalo / Tonawanda, where the large efforts were being made in the Columbia University decisions to use UF-6 and gas diffusion for uranium enrichment.

Obviously then, since Columbia Uriversity was geared toward UF-6 the move was on to use that, and of the competition on the best process implementation it came down to Kellog and Kellex ideas to use a diffusion barrier made from Nickel Powder and calcium fluoride, molded in tube configuation by a process called sintering. So, all the gas diffusion processes had to use fluoride resistant and things made of fluorine. But all the Kellex folks knew the issue of fluorine in processing. There is also a hugh study called "Project F" they are still hiding by classification.

Everyone in Europe knows that florine is a poison, and they don't allow fluoridation or the mass medication of the public's water source. The exception is England, but that isn't continetal Europe and the ones least likely to know the German prison camp management issues or those of the Red Trains and Gulags of Russia that used the same Solcialist chemical population control methods. IN most places the use of fluoridation was called Communism coming into the US.

So, the highest office that approved the Manhattan Project was also behind this use of fluorine and thus its cover up as a nasty slow poison on the minds of the workers, but also could be well used in the public at large. It was used to alter the negative side effects around aluminium and uranium plants, as if everyone had the same low level of toxicity, then the problem would not stick out like a sore thumb. Fluoride toxic effects are huge in the general industrial effects equation and the most covered up of industrial toxic effects. It was highly covered up first by the Manhattan Project and the Aluminum projects.

But the race for space was once headed heavily into fluorine production as per the Manhattan Project. NASA let up and only used it outside of Earth's orbit, and the Manhattan Project never stopped. So, when you look at the differences between the two systems one finds informed due caution from one and reckless abandon from the other, to the point of trying to mask the effects in the workers, the local residents exposed and moving into the greater population as being good to childrens teeth. Fluoride remained a poison, that accumulates, has long retention, affects the IQ of all exposed, and a negative addition that the Socialists found useful. Yet we find the NASA had wisdom and the Manhattan Project sought to take Americans Freedom via the same chemical process that was used by the prime Socialist societies in Europe, Hiters and Stalins, as the way they treated political dissodents.

If there were higher intelligence here or in America, we'd all have the same resistance to mass fluoridation as Europe and most all intelligent countries, yet we only find it in the Manhattan Project countries and their need for war over the rights and freedoms of their people.

Edited May 17, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Jim Phelps]

The ultimate Black Mail that keeps the economic Royalists in power was the MJ-12 issue, never officially adopted, but Eisenhower knew what it was designed to do which was cover up NAZI war crime experiments and in return the economic Royalists get their way with the US Economy.

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http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/JFK.html

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JFK was not about to go along with the Economic Black Mail of the Royalist bankers.

1. JFK supports the NASA NAZI's with the Man on The Moon Program.

2. JFK confronts the Black Mail of the Royalists with US Note.

3. JFK goes for the inner secret of MJ-12 Black Mail via UFO issues of November 12, 1963, wants cooperation with Soviets. Ends the MJ-12 Black Mail of the Royalists.

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"The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy America's freedom and before I leave this office, I must inform the citizens of their plight." Nov. 12, 1963

http://forum.jfkmurdersolved.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2211&p=32137&sid=81c198968ea318af9060e0f37380181f#p32137

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http://www.nps.gov/archive/eise/chronomil1.htm

1945

Eisenhower accepts Germany's unconditional surrender on May 7 and is appointed commander of the United States occupation zone in Germany. In November Eisenhower returns to the United States to become Chief of Staff, United States Army.

1948

Eisenhower retires from active service in February and writes Crusade in Europe. While serving as President of Columbia University, in December, Eisenhower begins three months service as a military consultant to the first Secretary of Defense, James Forrestal.

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Edited May 19, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Jim Phelps]

http://www.lekket.com/data/articles/003-001-008_000.pdf

[Kathleen Collins]

http://johndenugent....-foreign-policy

* * *"We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

—Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to Israeli foreign minister Shimon Peres, October 3, 2001

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If Israel controlled America, then why didn't they get the nukes they've been begging for since Kennedy's presidency?

Kathy C

[Jim Phelps]

The reason is the US could not just up and give Israel nukes without setting up the Jupiter Missles in Turkey issues all over again. Especially in the JFK and Johnson erra.

So, the was they did it was to go under the RADAR screens. LBJ just looked the other way on Dimona, and several of the US nuke areas let them steal weapons grade materials. IE Apollo, PA and NUMEC.

That way the US would not been seen arming an ally with nukes in Russia's back door.

Which is precisely why JFK jumped all over Ben Gurion for trying to persure nuclear weapons. They just eliminated JFK and LBJ never said another word about it.

So, today, Israel has lots of nukes from running the Dimona plutonium reactor for a long long time. They likely have around 300 these days. And since they stole the US blind on the designs, some of the most modern designs we have here.

Edited May 26, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Chuck Robbins]

I like having Jim Phelps on this board. If anyone calls him a "lunatic" "kook" "loon" or a "nut" I am going to make sure the moderators hear about it in a quick fashion.

At least Jim Phelps believes in what he is posting unlike SOME members of Education Forum, who I consider nothing more than pure internet disinformation artists on the JFK assassination.

And, at least Jim Phelps has figured out that it is *obvious* that Lyndon Johnson was a key player in the JFK assassination. I agree with Phelps on that last point.

I am not sure if I agree with the rest of the stuff. Having said that, we need to have some more quality and interesting posters on this forum. If you know of any quality JFK researcher please ask him or her to join up here. We need some "new blood."

Sincerely,

Robert Morrow

Initially Morrow had SOME credibility. But with each new posting he diminishes himself.

Jack

Guess what Jack White. I believe 1) Man landed on the moon 2) 9/11 was NOT an inside job but rather an attack of Islamic terrorism

Is that how you define "credibility?" With the vast majority of Americans you have NO credibility on those issues.

Really? Jack has NO credibility with..."the vast majority of Americans"? How many Americans have you asked about his credibility?

Of course, you have the right to believe anything you want to believe. This is known as an opinion when no evidence is available to support a claim. Opinions are valid for whomsoever holds said opinion.

Claiming that your opinion is the belief of "the vast majority of Americans" would be, shall we say, out of line?

Can we stop the pointless and counter-productive arguing and try to make our points without resorting to personal attacks?

[Jim Phelps]

Excellent Synopses.

NASA did make it to the Moon.

And some in the US did solve the JFK assassination:

"All the Likely Suspects"

"First they ignore you, then they attack you, then you win." Standard progression for exposing the real Crooks in the JFK assassination. Just look for the most attacked books and you find the truth, then you win.

All the likely suspects, well most all of them, for the marginally competent citizen's enlightenments:

http://www.rense.com/general89/isrole.htm

AT PERMINDEX

Clay Shaw - If New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison had been permitted to carry out an unimpeded investigation and prosecution of Shaw, a CIA contract operative and a former director of the International Trade Mart in New Orleans implicated in involvement with Lee Harvey Oswald, David Ferrie, Guy Banister and other figures central to the JFK assassination conspiracy, Garrison would have divined Shaw's connections - through a shadowy corporation known as Permindex - to not only the Israeli Mossad, but also the international crime syndicate of Israeli loyalist Meyer Lansky.

Louis M. Bloomfield - Based in Montreal, Bloomfield was a long-time intelligence operative and a front man for the powerful Bronfman family interests. The Bronfmans were not only key international backers of Israel but also long-time figures in the Lansky crime syndicate. Bloomfield, one of the foremost figures in the Israeli lobby in Canada and one of Israel's leading international operatives, not only served as the chief shareholder in the Permindex Corporation on whose board of directors Clay Shaw served, but also had intimate ties to American intelligence.

Tibor Rosenbaum - One of the "godfathers" of the state of Israel and the first director for finance and supply for Israel's intelligence agency, the Mossad, Rosenbaum was a prime financial angel behind the Permindex corporation. His Swiss banking concern, the Banque De Credit International, also served as the chief European money laundry or the global crime syndicate of Miami-based crime chief Meyer Lansky.

John King - A close business associate of Tibor Rosenbaum's protégé and sometime front man, Bernard Cornfeld, King showed up in New Orleans in the early stages of Jim Garrison's investigation-before Clay Shaw's name had come up-and sought to persuade Garrison (through a bribery attempt) to give up the inquiry. Fortunately he failed in his scheme.

THE MOSSAD CONNECTION

David Ben-Gurion - Prime Minister of Israel; resigned his post in disgust with JFK's stance toward Israel. in April of 1963; Said JFK's position threatened Israel's very survival.

Yitzhak Shamir - A long-time Mossad officer (based largely at the Mossad's chief European office in Paris), Shamir headed the Mossad's assassination squad at the time of the JFK assassination. A former French intelligence officer has charged that Shamir himself arranged the hiring of JFK's actual assassins through a close ally in French intelligence.

Menachem Begin - In 1963, Begin (later prime minister of Israel) was a roving Israeli diplomat; prior to JFK's assassination he was overheard conspiring with Meyer Lansky's California henchman, Mickey Cohen, in a conversation that suggested hostile intentions by Israel against the American president.

Luis Kutner - Although known largely as a "mob lawyer," (who was long and closely associated with Jack Ruby, a sometime-client) Kutner also doubled as an international intelligence operative and functioned as an advisor to an ad hoc pro-Israel lobby group in the United States.

A. L. Botnick - Head of the New Orleans office of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B'nai B'rith, an intelligence and propaganda arm for Israel's Mossad; a close associate of New Orleans-based CIA contract operative Guy Banister who helped create Lee Harvey Oswald's preassassination profile as a "pro-Castro" agitator. Evidence suggests that Banister's manipulation of Oswald may have been carried out under the guise of an ADL "fact-finding" operation.

Arnon Milchan - Israel's biggest arms dealer, Milchan was "executive producer" (i.e. chief financial angel) of Oliver Stone's Hollywood fantasy about the JFK assassination-a fact which may explain Stone's aversion to exploring the Israeli connection to the affair.

Maurice Tempeisman - The international diamond merchant and Mossad operative who became the lover of Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis and used his connections to double-perhaps triple-her substantial fortune, thereby co-opting the Kennedy family forever.

THE CIA CONNECTION

Rudolph Hecht - An owner of the CIA-linked Standard Fruit concern, Hecht was a prominent figure in the New Orleans Jewish community and as chairman of the board of directors of the International Trade Mart was Permindex board member Clay Shaw's primary sponsor.

James Jesus Angleton - Angleton, the CIA's long-time chief of counterintelligence, was the CIA's primary high-level conspirator in the murder of President Kennedy and the subsequent cover-up. Angleton, who had been co-opted by and was totally loyal to the Israeli Mossad, played a major role in the effort to frame Lee Harvey Oswald. Final Judgment is the first JFK assassination study to delve into Angleton's role in the conspiracy.

David Atlee Phillips - A long-time high-level CIA official, Phillips was the CIA station chief in Mexico City at the time a strange effort was underway to implicate Lee Harvey Oswald as a Soviet KGB collaborator. If anyone in the CIA knew the truth about Oswald, it was Phillips. He confessed publicly that the story about Oswald being in Mexico City was not precisely what the CIA had long claimed.

E. Howard Hunt - Long-time CIA officer and liaison to the anti-Castro Cuban exiles. Testimony by ex-CIA contract operative Marita Lorenz placed Hunt in Dallas, Texas the day before the president's assassination. The full truth about Hunt's actual involvement in the affair may never be known, but there is no question that Hunt was deeply involved in the intrigue surrounding the president's murder. Evidence does indeed indicate that there was a conscious effort to frame Hunt for involvement in the crime.

Guy Banister -The former FBI agent-turned-CIA contract operative whose New Orleans office was a central point for international intrigue involving the CIA, the anti-Castro Cuban exiles and the anti-DeGaulle forces in the French Secret Army Organization (OAS). Under Banister's direction, Lee Harvey Oswald established a public profile for himself as a "pro-Castro" agitator in the streets of New Orleans.

David Ferrie - An enigmatic adventurer and CIA contract operative, Ferrie was closely involved with Lee Harvey Oswald during Oswald's stay in New Orleans in the summer of 1963, working alongside Oswald out of Banister's headquarters. The investigation of Ferrie by New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison ultimately led to Garrison's discovery of Permindex board member Clay Shaw's ties to both Ferrie and Oswald.

Marita Lorenz - A former CIA contract operative, she testified under oath that one day prior to the assassination of President Kennedy she arrived in Dallas in an armed caravan of CIA-backed Cuban exiles who were met by not only Jack Ruby, who later killed Lee Harvey Oswald, but also CIA official E. Howard Hunt.

Guillermo & Ignacio Novo - Two brothers, veterans of the CIA-backed Cuban exile wars against Fidel Castro. According to Marita Lorenz, the Novo brothers were part of the armed caravan that arrived in Dallas one day before the assassination of President Kennedy. Many years after Dallas, the Novos were later convicted of participating in the murder of a Chilean dissident in collaboration with international adventurer Michael Townley who himself had ties to high-level figures implicated in the JFK conspiracy.

John Tower - In 1963 Tower was a newly-elected Republican U.S. Senator from Texas with close ties to the CIA. Shortly after the assassination he told associates of his own inside knowledge of the bizarre story of what really happened in Dealey Plaza. The story told by Tower suggests strongly that there were many unseen forces at work, manipulating many of the key players in the JFK assassination conspiracy. It was not until the release of Final Judgment that Tower's name was ever connected to the mystery surrounding the JFK assassination.

Victor Marchetti - A high-ranking CIA official who left the agency in disgust, Marchetti later made a career writing about the CIA. In a 1978 article he charged that the CIA was about to frame its long-time operative, E. Howard Hunt, with involvement in the JFK assassination. A libel suit resulting as a consequence of Marchetti's article resulted in a climactic finding by a jury that the CIA had been involved in the assassination of the president.

Robin Moore - A journalist with long-standing close ties to the CIA, Moore co-authored former CIA man Hugh McDonald's book, LBJ and the JFK Conspiracy which promoted James Jesus Angleton's false claim that the KGB was behind the president's murder-another of the disinformation stories that emerged following the assassination.

THE LANSKY SYNDICATE

Meyer Lansky - Chief executive officer and de facto "treasurer" of the international crime syndicate; active in gun-running on behalf of the Israeli underground; collaborated closely with American intelligence on a number of fronts; later settled in Israel. Researchers who have claimed that "the Mafia Killed JFK" have pointedly refused to acknowledge Lansky's preeminent positioning in the underworld.

Carlos Marcello - The head of the Mafia in New Orleans, Marcello owed his status to Meyer Lansky who was his chief sponsor in the crime syndicate. Marcello could not have orchestrated the JFK assassination-as some suggest-without Lansky's explicit approval.

Seymour Weiss - Meyer Lansky's chief bagman and liaison with the political establishment in Louisiana, he later served as a director of the CIA-linked Standard Fruit company and may actually have been a high-ranking CIA contract operative in New Orleans at the time of the JFK assassination.

Sam Giancana - The Mafia boss of Chicago, Giancana was a player in the CIA-Mafia plots against Castro; later murdered, probably at the behest of Santo Trafficante, Jr. His family says that Giancana admitted having been involved in the planning of the JFK assassination.

Santo Trafficante, Jr. - Although best known as the head of the Mafia in Tampa, Trafficante actually functioned as Meyer Lansky's chief lieutenant in the crime syndicate and as Lansky's liaison with the CIA in the Castro assassination plots.

Johnny Rosselli - A roving "ambassador" for the Mafia, Rosselli was the primary conduit between the CIA and the mob in the plots against Fidel Castro; may have arranged the murder of Sam Giancana for Trafficante and was later murdered himself.

Mickey Cohen - Meyer Lansky's West Coast henchman; Jack Ruby's role model and a gun-runner for the Israeli underground, Cohen collaborated closely with Israeli diplomat Menachem Begin prior to the JFK assassination;. Cohen arranged for John F. Kennedy to meet actress Marilyn Monroe who was assigned the task of finding out JFK's private views and intentions toward Israel.

Jack Ruby - A long-time functionary for the Lansky syndicate, Ruby was the Lansky connection man in Dallas and also engaged in CIA-linked gunrunning to the anti-Castro Cuban exiles. Evidence suggests there is more to Ruby's sudden "death" than meets the eye.

Jim Braden - A veteran personal courier for Meyer Lansky, Braden was almost assuredly in contact in Dallas with Jack Ruby prior to the JFK assassination. He was briefly detained in Dealey Plaza minutes after the president's murder, but those JFK assassination researchers who have mentioned Braden prefer to cast him as a "Mafia" figure rather than as Lansky's man on the scene in Dallas.

Al Gruber - A henchman of Meyer Lansky's West Coast operative, Mickey Cohen, Gruber and Ruby spoke by telephone just shortly before Ruby killed Lee Harvey Oswald. It is believed that Gruber gave Ruby the contract on Oswald on behalf of his superiors.

THE FRENCH CONNECTION

Charles DeGaulle - Repeatedly targeted for assassination by Israeli-allied forces in French intelligence and in the Secret Army Organization (OAS) who were angry that DeGaulle had granted independence to Arab Algeria. The Mossad-sponsored Permindex operation that also had a hand in the murder of JFK, laundered money used in the assassination attempts on DeGaulle.

Georges deLannurien - High ranking official in the SDECE, the French intelligence agency; pinpointed by a former French intelligence officer as the individual who (at the best of Mossad assassinations chief Yitzhak Shamir) contracted the hit team who killed JFK in Dallas.

Michael Mertz - A former French SDECE officer and the Paris connection for the Lansky-Trafficante heroin syndicate; alleged to have been one of the actual gunmen in Dallas on November 22, 1963. Said by some to be the legendary CIA contract killer, QJ/WIN.

Jean Soutre - A liaison for the French OAS with the CIA's E. Howard Hunt, Soutre maintained contact with Guy Banister's CIA- and mob-linked gun-running headquarters in New Orleans. Soutre may have been in Dallas at the time of the JFK assassination. There is evidence linking Soutre to James Jesus Angleton's intrigue inside the CIA that affected French intelligence in a dramatic way.

Thomas Eli Davis III - A world-traveling mercenary with apparent links to both Jack Ruby and Lee Harvey Oswald, Davis was taken into custody by the Algerian government for his subversive activities alongside Israeli agents in supplying weapons to the French OAS just prior to the JFK assassination. It is said that CIA operative QJJWIN (possibly Michael Mertz, one of the reputed assassins of President Kennedy) helped secure Davis's release from prison.

Geoffrey Bocca - A former propagandist for the OAS, Bocca later co-authored former CIA contract agent Hugh McDonald's book, Appointment in Dallas, which pointed the blame for the JFK assassination away from those who were actually responsible-the first of two suspect books put out by McDonald.

Christian David - A French Corsican criminal associated with reputed JFK assassin Michael Mertz, David has claimed knowledge of a French hit team involved in the JFK assassination. David himself was the chief suspect in the murder of a Moroccan dissident, Mehdi Ben-Barka, whose killing was orchestrated by the Israeli Mossad through anti-DeGaulle forces in French intelligence.

TRUTH SEEKERS

Mark Lane - Retained by Lee Harvey Oswald's mother to represent her son's interests before the Warren Commission, Lane's book Rush to Judgment was the first major critique of the Warren Commission Report. In a libel suit filed against The Spotlight newspaper by former CIA operative E. Howard Hunt, Lane proved to the satisfaction of a jury that the CIA had indeed been involved in the JFK assassination. His best-selling book Plausible Denial outlined the circumstances of that libel suit and its ultimate conclusion.

Gary Wean - A former detective on the Hollywood beat of the Los Angeles Police Department, Wean discovered how Meyer Lansky's West Coast henchman, Mickey Cohen, was conspiring against John F. Kennedy on behalf of the Israelis. In a meeting with the former sheriff of Dallas County, Bill Decker, Wean learned a portion of the truth about what really happened in Dallas.

NEWS TWISTERS

Edgar & Edith Stern - Close friends of Clay Shaw, major financial backers of the pro-Israel Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of B'nai B'rith, and owners of the WDSU media empire in New Orleans that not only played a major role in giving vast publicity to Lee Harvey Oswald's preassassination profile as a "pro-Castro agitator" but later sought to undermine Jim Garrison's investigation of Clay Shaw.

Johann Rush - As a young WDSU cameraman, Rush was on the scene to record Oswald's "pro-Castro" activities. He emerged-many years later-as the brains behind a "computer-enhanced" version of the famous Zapruder film of the JFK assassination that author Gerald Posner cited as "proof' that Oswald acted alone in the president's murder.

Drew Pearson - Accused by his own mother-in-law of being a "mouthpiece" for the pro-Israel ADL, Pearson had close ties to not only the Israeli lobby, but also the CIA and to President Lyndon Johnson and his cronies. It was Pearson who floated an unlikely story that Fidel Castro was behind the JFK assassination and who also played a major influence in shaping Earl Warren's perceptions of the tragedy.

Jack Anderson - As protégé of Drew Pearson, Jack Anderson likewise had strange connections that might have biased his own reportage on the JFK affair. Since 1963 Anderson has promoted a number of conflicting versions about "who really killed JFK" ranging from "the Mafia" to Fidel Castro or a combination of both.

Jack Newfield - A liberal columnist and some-time JFK assassination buff, Newfield has been a likewise long-standing devotee of Israel. He made a big splash with a highly fantastic story that missing Teamster boss Jimmy Hoffa had "ordered" two Mafia figures to arrange the killing of President Kennedy. Not surprisingly, Newfield's ridiculous story was given wide play in the Establishment media.

THEORISTS AND/OR PROPAGANDISTS?

Oliver Stone - His Hollywood extravaganza, JFK, gave the public a fullblown, full-color, gory-in-every-detail conspiracy theory on the JFK assassination. Yet, Stone's presentation of the conspiracy was far from complete and failed to reach any firm conclusions. He deliberately suppressed the "French connection" which, in turn, was the long-hidden Israeli connection. Not only was Stone's chief financial backer Israel's leading arms dealer but also his film distribution company had its origins in the Lansky crime syndicate. What's more, one of the chief shareholders in the film company was none other than Bernard Cornfeld, long-time associate of Permindex figure Tibor Rosenbaum

Frank Mankiewicz - This former publicist for the Israeli Mossad-linked Anti-Defamation League had a peculiar part in the events that took place prior to the murder of Robert F. Kennedy. Then when Oliver Stone began promoting his film JFK, Mankiewicz popped up as his key public relations man.

Anthony Summers - Author of one book hinting that the Kennedy family were responsible for the death-maybe the murder-of actress Marilyn Monroe, Summers wrote another book on the JFK conspiracy. In neither book did Summers reveal explosive information (of which he was aware) that could have helped point the direction of those same forces which played a part in both crimes.

Robert Morrow - A former CIA contract operative who played a major role in activities on the periphery of the JFK assassination conspiracy, Morrow's book on his experiences is rife with detail, yet suspect in the eyes of many who had looked into his claims. Morrow's book absolves the key CIA conspirator, James J. Angleton, of involvement in the JFK conspiracy and portrays him as being "out of the loop" when, in fact, precisely the opposite was true. Is it a coincidence that Morrow's book publisher is an American affiliate of an Israeli publishing company?

G. Robert Blakey - An unlikely choice to serve as director of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, Blakey had, just two years previously, served as a character witness for a long-time close associate of crime boss Meyer Lansky. When it came time to point the blame in the JFK assassination, Blakey targeted Lansky's protégé, New Orleans Mafia boss, Carlos Marcello, but looked no further. Blakey, likewise, found no role by the CIA-or any other intelligence agency-in the JFK assassination.

David Scheim - The author of a book that pins the murder of President Kennedy on "the Mafia," Scheim refuses to acknowledge Permindex board member Clay Shaw's intelligence connections and paints Israeli loyalist Meyer Lansky as a low-level syndicate figure with no influence of substance. Scheim's book was published by the American front for an Israeli publishing company.

Richard Billings - A journalist with close ties to the CIA, Billings played a major role in the media's campaign to undermine New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison's investigation of Clay Shaw. Billings emerged as the prime promoter of the outlandish theory that Garrison was a Mafia front man trying to take the focus off the Mafia and direct the attention toward the intelligence community.

James DiEugenio - Although a deep admirer of both John F. Kennedy and New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison, DiEugenio has tread lightly when inquiring into the ties between Clay Shaw and the Permindex operation with its multiple links to the Israeli Mossad and the crime syndicate.

Peter Dale Scott - His years of in-depth research on the JFK assassination have led him directly to the doorstep of the CIA, the Mossad and the Lansky Crime Syndicate, yet he has never been prepared to name names or point in the direction of those very forces, preferring to sidestep the issue.

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This is pretty good list for the players in the JFK hit and cover up. He left off a few of the essentials like "George Mandel" aka "Mantello". But he gets "Bloomfield" and "Rosenbaum". These three are the "Godfathers" for Israel's very existance. They are the upper eschelon for the JFK hit, this was the JFK hit "High Command". This list leaves off "William King Harvey", as he is right in the middle of these three as US Rome CIA associations. But from this group you find the PERMINDEX and the BCI money laundry methods per Rome, the Diamonds and Drugs trading, and the Mossad supply line. The problem was all these old OSS connected types never really went away, like the old saying: "once in the company, always in the company." They were always working the intelligence system for some of their goals. They took a wrong turn when the goals became the killing of a US President that became America's National Hero.

Then we have to toss in Lucien Sarti and the Corsicans, as these High Command crooks wanted the ultimate in compartmentalization and killers that would not talk. That way nobody knew who order the hit, supplied the money, saw them in Dallas, or could connect them with CIA. The CIA is so full of leaks that no secrets are ever kept with them. The safe bet on kill operations is total disconnect from CIA and hire the Corsicans, which King Harvey liked.

IMHO, When these High Command types connected to Hungarian Benevolence kill the American President Kennedy all their good deeds went away, as they became Criminals against America. They plunged the US into a 30 year cold war that cost the US trillions of dollars to promote their Dirty Deeds cover ups. They became the ultimate Nemisis for American's Freedom, Peace and Prosperity. No one should be swayed from exposing these Crooks who used every trick in the book to evade detection, but the truth always has a way of appearing. And that Truth will set America Free from the Criminal Elements that wished it ill for nearly 50 years now. Americans will not longer be marginally competent on the subjust of the JFK assassination, as the one true story is coming forth from all the Chaos and Noise the Crooks used to conceal it.

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For the folks wanting to Learn the JFK issues, I have outlined some of the methods to make the study interesting. It is a rather complicated group and this method helps everyone to remember their many associations. It is just a study method that helps the issues to stick in folks minds, as they connect the dots.

One can look for the "Name Changers", as that always tends to find many of the issues associated. So, we not only find issues like Jack Ruby is Jacob Rubenstein, we also find the Rothchilds were Bauers of Germany. The list goes on and on, but the most interesting are Georges Mandel is Georgy Mandello, so he sounds Italian. But one can have fun looking for the others. The Name Changers really finds a lot of the players.

Another fun thing is chase down the Masons and "33rd Degree Masons" involved. So you find folks like Hoover, Ford, Russell, Earl Warren, George Mandella and lots more.

Another fun thing is chase down the "Gay Fellas" and you find all kinds of associations from Hoover and Tolson, to Clay Shaw, to Ferrie, to Cohen and the list gets interesting.

Then one can look for the Zionists involved and even find a high Rabbi and Jesuit connections to the central group. When you get that far, "The JFK Murder Mystery" is Solved.

These are just games for Internet Searches that help make the associations more memorable so everyone can connect the Dots for the JFK Conspiracy issues.

Some of your readings will turn up how an American Jewish person named Adolph Schwimmer started the Israeli Air Force and you'll find another godfather (Credit T.R.):

http://www.jpost.com/Features/InThespotlight/Article.aspx?id=224857

And some of the story isn't real pretty, but it shows how Israel's godfathers do business:

http://blockyourid.com/~gbpprorg/judicial-inc/is_raeli_American_Traitors.htm

Then for those seeking a little greater challenge for learning these issues become evident:

This little research project will take you into the world of exploitive business and the world of Opium trading that the Jewish Sassoon Family started to exploit China, then how this trade was supplemented with the addictive properties of Nicotine by Britain and Big Tobacco ran the drugs and tobacco into China. We'll show you how all that stemmed from Cuba, the Germans and the British.

The research project will help you connect the dots on not only drugs, but sugar and alcohol addition, sugar/cotton and slavery, sex trades and pornography, sugar and fluoridation, sex, glamor, and Hollywood Cinema. Soon you'll find how those that used the exploitation business plans propered more than others. You can see the effects of the Inquisitiions on these trades.

The research finds Hitler's Bible on the Nordic Races or Aerian Race:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Grant

You can discover the term "Master Race" began with Slavery:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race

And in the present day we have the quest for which was the greater quest in sciences for the Arian Rockets or the Jewish Nuclear Science? 1. That for Man in Space and World Peace. or 2. That of a fearsome Nuclear Bomb intent on an Earthy New World Order quest for power, control, and money.

IMHO, These are the tough questions for our plight as stewards of planet Earth. Obviously, JFK selected Peace over Nuclear Wars.

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And even George Bush-41 is a likely suspect since he was seen all around Dealey Plaza that day JFK was killed. Plus he was CIA. imho

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Bush Crime Family Quotes

The Legacy of the Bush-Millman-Clinton Crime Family:

A Vortex of Weapons, Narcotics, Frauds, Treason and Murders.

November 2006

http://www.stewwebb.com

A Benevolent Dictatorship is the Best Form of Government. Everything in Secret and above the law needs to be imperative.-- George H W Bush

Former U.S. President George H. W. Bush in 1988 said: New World Order is the consolidation of more power and money into tighter, fewer, righted, eliter, whiter, hands. NAZI Adolph Hitler first coined the phrase: New World Order.

Bush further stated in June 1992 to Sarah McClendon the Grandam of the Washington White House Press Corps when she asked Bush what will the people do if they ever find out the truth about Iraq-gate and Iran-Contra? George H W Bush Replied: Sarah, If the people were to ever find out what we have done, we would be chased down the streets and lynched.

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.--George W. Bush August 5, 2004

There's a government inside the government and I don't control it.-- President Bill Clinton

Are we to remain a nation convenient to our politicians? Are we to remain a nation that, according to Bush Goon Former Kansas Senator Bob Dole is "The Land of the Provincial and Home of the Naïve Thank God"?

Governments are only there for Us to Rob, Loot and Pillage.--President George H. W. Bush

The American People, The BUD People, The Broke Useless and Depressed. We are the MPBs, Money, Power and Brains. As long as we keep food on the BUDSTERS tables, a roof over their heads, a car in their driveway and gas in their gas tanks to go to and from work. We can keep the BUDSTERS at bay.--President George H. W. Bush

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Edited June 21, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Karl Kinaski]

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