Steven Gaal Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) So far none of the forum’s resident anti-Semites provided an iota of evidence Stone let the funders effect the content of the film or that they even tried. I can’t imagine the director bowing to such request. Nor has evidence of Rothschild control of Havas been presented. It should also be noted that Milchan raised money from non-Jewish sources more than he provided his own. ###################))))))))))))))00000000)))))))))))))###################### Again if u mention Rothschild u are an antiSEMITE tooooooo COLBY....soooooo untrue. http://www.thehalsreport.com/2010/12/rothschild-family-history/ ####################################################### (HAVAS/MEDIA ROTHCHILD) http://books.google.com/books?id=3UEEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=havas+rothschild&source=bl&ots=yuac4GZKfD&sig=CCc6alArNZ1VMZsUzdPUYPyE3cc&hl=en&ei=hLosTumFOISesQO1m8iRCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=havas%20rothschild&f=false Edited July 25, 2011 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Phelps Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) Speaking of PERMINDEX and "Louis Mortimer Bloomfield" and Masons, like "33rd Degree George Mandel", there comes an example of some new extremes. Bloomfield and "Orde Wingate" were peas in a pod in making Israel. Now, it turns out that a Mason in Norway seems to have gone on a rampage and killed a lot of Norway Youths for opting to boycott Israel. This is a recent history aside note linked to JFK assassination engineer Bloomfield and some of the extremes Masons can do over what appears to be Israel factors. It is interesting that the Masonic Dress Apron for this person is that for a Lodge "Worshipful Master", making him highly placed in Masons. Leaves little doubt that a similar situation would boil over to kill JFK, as this one Mason fella killed nearing a 100 people. ========= http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gilad-atzmon-was-the-massacre-in-norway-a-reaction-to-bds.html I learned last night from an Israeli online journal, that two days before the Utoya Island massacre, AUF’s (Labour Party's youth movement) leader Eskil Pedersen gave an interview to the Dagbladet, Norway's second largest tabloid newspaper, in which he unveiled what he thinks of Israel. In the course of the interview, Pedersen stated that he “believes the time has come for more drastic measures against Israel, and (that he) wants the Foreign Minister to impose an economic boycott against the country.” Pederson went on to say, “The peace process goes nowhere, and though the whole world expect Israel to comply, they do not. We in Labour Youth will have a unilateral economic embargo of Israel from the Norwegian side.” ================ http://www.moneyteachers.org/Israel+Norway+Shooter.html Since its establishment in the late 19th century, the party steadily increased in support until it became the largest party in Norway in 1927 – a position it has held ever since." (Source) As the dominant political party they have a huge influence on foreign policy. The youth that were killed had just decided to boycott Israel: "two days before the Utoya Island massacre, AUF’s (Labour Party's youth movement) leader Eskil Pedersen gave an interview to the Dagbladet, Norway's second largest tabloid newspaper, in which he unveiled what he thinks of Israel. In the course of the interview, Pedersen stated that he “believes the time has come for more drastic measures against Israel, and (that he) wants the Foreign Minister to impose an economic boycott against the country.” Pederson went on to say, “The peace process goes nowhere, and though the whole world expect Israel to comply, they do not. We in Labour Youth will have a unilateral economic embargo of Israel from the Norwegian side.” The AUF Labour Party Youth Movement have been devoted promoters of the Israel Boycott campaign, The Dagbladet newspaper reporting that “The AUF has long been a supporter of an international boycott of Israel, but the decision at the last congress, demands that Norway imposes a unilateral economic embargo on the country and it must be stricter than before.” “I acknowledge that this is a drastic measure”, stated Pedersen, “but I think it gives a clear indication that we are tired of Israel's behaviour, quite simply”. (Source) =========== http://mantiqaltayr.wordpress.com/2011/07/24/their-blood-is-not-just-on-breiviks-hands/ So, in order to promote “inter-ethnic understanding” you send kids to Israel? You send them to one of the most racist places on the planet? “But Mantiq” (I can hear it now) “these kids are sent to the ‘Yemin Orde Youth Village’ which is for poor children with no place to go except to Palestine to be used as excuses in the future to steal more Arab land. Oh, and also Mantiq, the place is subsidized by the US taxpayer. Isn’t that cool.?” Sigh: I wonder if the American kids Cummings is sending to this “youth village” will learn that it is named after General Orde Wingate, a Christian Zionist fanatic who trained Haganah terrorists in Palestine in th 1930′s. Wingate also hated Arabs, I guess he would have made a fine Congressman. “In June 1938 the new British commander, Gen. Haining, gave his permission to create the Special Night Squads, armed groups formed of British and Haganah volunteers. The Jewish Agency helped pay salaries and other costs of the Haganah personnel. “Wingate trained, commanded and accompanied them in their patrols. The units frequently ambushed Arab saboteurs who attacked oil pipelines of the Iraq Petroleum Company, raiding border villages the attackers had used as bases. In these raids Wingate’s men sometimes imposed severe collective punishmentson the village inhabitants that were criticized by Zionist leaders as well as Wingate’s British superiors. Wingate disliked Arabs, once shouting at Hagana fighters after a June 1938 attack on a village on the border between Mandatory Palestine and Lebanon, “I think you are all totally ignorant in your Ramat Yochanan [the training base for the Hagana] since you do not even know the elementary use of bayonets when attacking dirty Arabs: how can you put your left foot in front?”[nb 1] But the brutal tactics proved effective in quelling the uprising, and Wingate was awarded the DSO in 1938.” But I guess since they’ll all be there on Mt. Carmel which is where the Baha’i headquarters is and overlooking Haifa which was ethnically cleansed by Israel it’s all perfectly okay. “Based on declassified Israeli documents, the Israeli historian Benny Morris concluded that the Jewish civilian population (especially Haifa’s Jewish mayor Shabtai Levy) was at peace with their Palestinian neighbors, but the Haganah and the IZL leadership had a different agenda to ethnically cleanse the city from its Palestinian Arab population. ” Yeah, the Haganah, the outfit whose members Orde Wingate trained, got rid of the majority of the city’s Arab population. “Out of the 61,000 Palestinian Arabs who used to call Haifa home, only 3,566 Palestinians were allowed to stay. The remaining population were in constant fear on their lives and properties, and many of them witnessed the looting of their homes and possessions by the Zionists.” ========== http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/23/norway-notes/ “The attack in Oslo also came 65 years to the very day after the Israeli Irgun blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem”…Eileen Fleming Remembering my manners and putting aside cheap journalism for humanity, the staff at Veterans Today offers its condolences and best to the families of the dead and the people of Norway. Every life is precious. ============ Edited July 26, 2011 by Jim Phelps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 So far none of the forum’s resident anti-Semites provided an iota of evidence Stone let the funders effect the content of the film or that they even tried. I can’t imagine the director bowing to such request. Nor has evidence of Rothschild control of Havas been presented. It should also be noted that Milchan raised money from non-Jewish sources more than he provided his own. ###################))))))))))))))00000000)))))))))))))###################### Again if u mention Rothschild u are an antiSEMITE tooooooo COLBY....soooooo untrue. You never tire of dragging out that shopworn strawman do you? Phelps is pretty openly anti-Semitic and like him you display an obvious tendency to blame Jews (Zionist or otherwise) for most of the world’s ills) http://www.thehalsreport.com/2010/12/rothschild-family-history/ I guess that was in response to comment that the claim the Rothschilds controlled Havas (at the time of the assassination) was undocumented. So it seems the best you can do is the unsourced claim of an obscure blogger the family owned the company in 1914. (HAVAS/MEDIA ROTHCHILD)http://books.google.com/books?id=3UEEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=havas+rothschild&source=bl&ots=yuac4GZKfD&sig=CCc6alArNZ1VMZsUzdPUYPyE3cc&hl=en&ei=hLosTumFOISesQO1m8iRCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=havas%20rothschild&f=false Sorry Charlie, thought it mentioned both on the same page the cited book gave no indication of any ties between the family and the news agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Phelps Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 (edited) The Saga of the Norway shootings: Britons Involved----Manhunt in progress----almost sounds like a Gladio Project aimed at Islam. It is more than likely the Albert Pike project to forment a religion war: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8658664/Hunt-for-Britons-linked-to-Norway-killer-Anders-Behring-Breivik.html Hunt for Britons linked to Norway killer Anders Behring Breivik A hunt for possible British accomplices of the mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik is under way after it emerged that he began his deadly “crusade” after meeting other Right-wing extremists in London. ========== http://www.jta.org/news/article/2011/07/24/3088679/norway-killer-espoused-new-right-wing-pro-israel-philosophy Norway killer espoused right-wing philosophy By Toby Axelrod · July 24, 2011 BERLIN (JTA) -- The confessed perpetrator in the attack in Norway that killed at least 76 people espoused a right-wing philosophy against Islam that also purports to be pro-Zionist. ========== Interesting correlations: Malcom-X supports Palistine Arabs-----gets killed/ MLK supports Palistine --- gets killed/ JFK bans the bomb for Zionists---gets killed/ RFK wants justice for JFK---gets killed/ Abe Lincoln shuts down the Zionists Bankers---gets killed/ Now this Zionist British consort does a mass killing. =================== Looks like the Knights Templer---NWO version is back http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9761756 European security officials said they were aware of increased Internet chatter from individuals claiming they belonged to the Knights Templar group that Breivik describes, in fantastical terms, in the manifesto. They said they were still investigating claims that Breivik, and other far-right individuals, attended a London meeting of the group in 2002. The two officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about the investigation. The use of an anglicized pseudonym could be explained by a passage in the manifesto describing the founding, in April 2002 in London, of a group he calls a new Knights Templar. The Knights Templar was a medieval order created to protect Christian pilgrims in the Holy Land after the First Crusade in the 11th century. ============== The original or historical Templers ran to Scotland and this is the roots of the Scottish Rite 33rd Degrees version of the Masons, and the works of Albert Pike. London/UK is the roots of the main order for Masons. The Mason have always had a formal group called The Knights Templar. Looks like the ugly head of a new terrorist group is coming out. This one again linked to the UK and London via the Masons. =============== Edited July 28, 2011 by Jim Phelps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 The Saga of the Norway shooting: Britons Involved----Manhunt in progress----almost sounds like a Gladio Project aimed at Islam: http://www.telegraph...ng-Breivik.html Hunt for Britons linked to Norway killer Anders Behring Breivik A hunt for possible British accomplices of the mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik is under way after it emerged that he began his deadly "crusade" after meeting other Right-wing extremists in London. ========== http://www.jta.org/n...rael-philosophy Norway killer espoused right-wing philosophy By Toby Axelrod · July 24, 2011 BERLIN (JTA) -- The confessed perpetrator in the attack in Norway that killed at least 76 people espoused a right-wing philosophy against Islam that also purports to be pro-Zionist. ========== Interesting correlations: Malcom-X supports Palistine Arabs-----gets killed/ MLK supports Palistine --- gets killed/ JFK bans the bomb for Zionists---gets killed/ RFK wants justice for JFK---gets killed/ Abe Lincoln shuts down the Zionists Bankers---gets killed/ Now this Zionist British consort does a mass killing. =================== Looks like the Knights Templer---NWO version is back http://www.guardian....article/9761756 European security officials said they were aware of increased Internet chatter from individuals claiming they belonged to the Knights Templar group that Breivik describes, in fantastical terms, in the manifesto. They said they were still investigating claims that Breivik, and other far-right individuals, attended a London meeting of the group in 2002. The two officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about the investigation. The use of an anglicized pseudonym could be explained by a passage in the manifesto describing the founding, in April 2002 in London, of a group he calls a new Knights Templar. The Knights Templar was a medieval order created to protect Christian pilgrims in the Holy Land after the First Crusade in the 11th century. ============== The Templers ran to Scotland and this is the roots of the Scottish Rite 33rd Degrees version of the Masons, and the works of Albert Pike. London/UK is the roots of the main order for Masons. Looks like the ugly head of a new terrorist group is coming out. =============== I want to know why all the anti-Jew and counter Zionists refuse to follow up on the murder/assassination of the Palestinian terrorists in Dubai, an event that has been documented to the extent of having video tapes of every move of all dozen or more participants? How come this assassination has been allowed to be dropped, so nobody wants to follow up on it and figure out what really happened? Even those who hate the Jews and MOSSAD have given up on it. What's up with that? BK JFKcountercoup.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Phelps Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) Hello Bill, You mean to tell us that some Palistinian Arab Semitic persons in Dubai were assassinated too? I guess what ever faction was involved is anti-semitic, as Arabs are a Semitic people and they deserve justice by the system. Did you want to venture a guess as to what faction was involved in going around the justice system for this one? I don't know a thing of these incidences that you express interest. But, it would appear more of the same ole motives. It has been going on for 2,000 years down there---nothing new. Sooner or later it gets back to religion differences and the issues of the Essense, or the Talmud. In the nearer term the issues of Stuarts and Hanovers, or Jesuits vs Jesus. Even the Masons are involved as they were the prize of the Stuarts per the Templars, and the German Hanovers finially took the Throne and the Mason's original truths were masked. Religion and hidden truths are a big issue in this mess. Getting to these truths ends these big wars, solves the JFK hit, and sets the American People free of this oppression. It is bigger than just the JFK assassination. There was an interesting book called "The Second Messiah", which is largely about the Masons and the Stuart and Hanover battle for control of them. ===== http://www.amazon.com/Second-Messiah-Templars-Shroud-Freemasonry/dp/1862042489 Someone made an epic observation in reading this book: "History seems not so much a record of past events, more a catalogue of preferred beliefs expounded by people who have a vested interest." and another: " If you haven't read the Hiram Key, this is their formula [Nasorean=Essene=Christian] " ========= Some "Points of Order" for you to consider. When the FBI was onto Meyer Lansky, that was not considered anti-Zionist or anti anything, except perhaps anti-criminal, anti-drug, and anti-crime. The very same issue goes for looking at the suspected criminal activities of PERMINDEX, and persons like Louis Bloomfield and his Bronfman Drug Crime Syndicate in Montreal. When the subject is perhaps Dubai and some assassinations there of Arab Semitic persons, the issue is about criminal activities. It would be misleading to call looking into these crimes any other name other that seeking Justice via seeking the truth. The problem is this war for who controls drags the US into the middle of it. The US needs to stop being suckered. And the JFK assassination research needs to address the justice issue sans the pitiful name calling of anti-Jewish and anti-Zionist. IMHO, You really can't get to the central issues of the JFK hit with your bias. jp Edited July 27, 2011 by Jim Phelps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 So far none of the forum’s resident anti-Semites provided an iota of evidence Stone let the funders effect the content of the film or that they even tried. I can’t imagine the director bowing to such request. Nor has evidence of Rothschild control of Havas been presented. It should also be noted that Milchan raised money from non-Jewish sources more than he provided his own. ###################))))))))))))))00000000)))))))))))))###################### Again if u mention Rothschild u are an antiSEMITE tooooooo COLBY....soooooo untrue. You never tire of dragging out that shopworn strawman do you? Phelps is pretty openly anti-Semitic and like him you display an obvious tendency to blame Jews (Zionist or otherwise) for most of the world’s ills) http://www.thehalsreport.com/2010/12/rothschild-family-history/ I guess that was in response to comment that the claim the Rothschilds controlled Havas (at the time of the assassination) was undocumented. So it seems the best you can do is the unsourced claim of an obscure blogger the family owned the company in 1914. (HAVAS/MEDIA ROTHCHILD)http://books.google.com/books?id=3UEEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=havas+rothschild&source=bl&ots=yuac4GZKfD&sig=CCc6alArNZ1VMZsUzdPUYPyE3cc&hl=en&ei=hLosTumFOISesQO1m8iRCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=havas%20rothschild&f=false Sorry Charlie, thought it mentioned both on the same page the cited book gave no indication of any ties between the family and the news agency. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% "Sorry Charlie" Colby was raised rude. http://constitutionalgov.us/Archive/Charles/Conspiracy/Knuth-EmpireofCity.pdf SEE Barriers Down by Kent Cooper (SEE BOTTOM PG 35 of pdf) ^^^^^^^^^KENT COOPER AN INSIDER WHO WOULD KNOW^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Kent Cooper (March 22, 1880 - January 31, 1965) was a distinguished journalist who served with the Associated Press (AP) for more than 50 years, holding the position of general manager from 1925 to 1948 and concluding his career as executive director. Cooper is best known for headlining the jump of the Associated Press from a small news organization into an influential, world-wide publication. Through his efforts, AP became the leader among the world's major news agencies, the others being Reuters, Agence France-Presse, and UPI. Under Cooper’s leadership and direction the Associated Press launched various innovative techniques, including the use of teletypes, high-speed printing machines, and the wire-transmitting of news photography. A long time advocate of freedom of the press, Cooper authored several books addressing the public's right to know and the important role of the media in reporting the truth. In this way, he substantially contributed to the improvement of human society. link http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Kent_Cooper ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^))))))))00000000))))))))^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^+++++ Control of the Media With the control of the money came the control of the news media. Kent Cooper, head of the Associated Press, writes in his autobiography "Barriers Down": "International bankers under the House of Rothschild acquired an interest in the three leading European agencies." [51] (see below for 51 REF.) Thus the Rothschilds bought control of Reuters International News Agency, based in London, Havas of France, and Wolf in Germany, which controlled the dissemination of all news in Europe. The iron grip of the "London Connection" on the media was exposed in a recent book by Ben J. Bagdikian "The Media Monopoly", described as "A startling report on the 50 corporations that control what America sees, hears, reads". [53] Bagdikian, who edited the nation's most influential magazine, the Saturday Evening Post, until the monopoly suddenly closed it down, reveals the interlocking directorates among the fifty corporations which control the news, but fails to trace them back to the five London banking houses which control them. He mentions that CBS interlocks with the Washington Post, Allied Chemical, Wells Fargo Bank, and others, but does not tell the reader that Brown Brothers Harriman controls CBS, or that the Eugene Meyer family (Lazard Freres) controls Allied Chemical and the Washington Post, and Kuhn Loeb Co. [controls] the Wells Fargo Bank. He shows the New York Times interlocked with Morgan Guaranty Trust, American Express, First Boston Corporation and others, but does not show how the banking interlocks. He does not mention the Federal Reserve System in his entire book, which is conspicuous by its absence. Bagdikian documents that the media monopoly is steadily closing down more newspapers and magazines. Washington D.C., with one paper, The Post, is unique among world capitols. London has eleven daily newspapers, Paris fourteen, Rome eighteen, Tokyo seventeen, and Moscow nine. He cites a study from the 1982 World Press Encyclopaedia that the United States is at the bottom of industrial nations in the number of daily newspapers sold per 1,000 population. Sweden leads the list with 572, the United States is at the bottom with 287. There is universal distrust of the media by Americans, because of their notorious monopoly and bias. The media unanimously urges higher taxes on working people, more government spending, a welfare state with totalitarian powers, close relations with Russia, and a rabid denunciation of anyone who opposes Communism. This is the program of "the London Connection." It flaunts a maniacal racism, and has as its motto the dictum of its high priestess, Susan Sontag, that "The white race is the cancer of history." Everyone should be against cancer. The media monopoly deals with its opponents in one of two ways; either frontal assault of libel which the average person cannot afford to litigate, or an iron curtain of silence, the standard treatment for any work which exposes its clandestine activities. Although the Rothschild plan does not match [or conform to] any single political or economic movement since it was enunciated in 1773, vital parts of it can be discerned in all political revolutions since that date. LaRouche [54] points out that the Round Tables sponsored Fabian Socialism in England, while backing the Nazi regime through a Round Table member in Germany, Dr. Hjalmar Schacht, and that they used the Nazi Government throughout World War II through Round Table member Admiral Canaris, while Allen Dulles ran a collaborating intelligence operation in Switzerland for the Allies. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^))))))))00000000))))))))^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^++++ 51. Kent Cooper, Barriers Down, pg. 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) I guess that was in response to comment that the claim the Rothschilds controlled Havas (at the time of the assassination) was undocumented. So it seems the best you can do is the unsourced claim of an obscure blogger the family owned the company in 1914. (HAVAS/MEDIA ROTHCHILD)http://books.google.com/books?id=3UEEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=havas+rothschild&source=bl&ots=yuac4GZKfD&sig=CCc6alArNZ1VMZsUzdPUYPyE3cc&hl=en&ei=hLosTumFOISesQO1m8iRCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=havas%20rothschild&f=false Sorry Charlie, thought it mentioned both on the same page the cited book gave no indication of any ties between the family and the news agency. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% "Sorry Charlie" Colby was raised rude. http://constitutionalgov.us/Archive/Charles/Conspiracy/Knuth-EmpireofCity.pdf SEE Barriers Down by Kent Cooper (SEE BOTTOM PG 35 of pdf) ^^^^^^^^^KENT COOPER AN INSIDER WHO WOULD KNOW^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Kent Cooper (March 22, 1880 - January 31, 1965) was a distinguished journalist who served with the Associated Press (AP) for more than 50 years, holding the position of general manager from 1925 to 1948 and concluding his career as executive director. Cooper is best known for headlining the jump of the Associated Press from a small news organization into an influential, world-wide publication. Through his efforts, AP became the leader among the world's major news agencies, the others being Reuters, Agence France-Presse, and UPI. Under Cooper’s leadership and direction the Associated Press launched various innovative techniques, including the use of teletypes, high-speed printing machines, and the wire-transmitting of news photography. A long time advocate of freedom of the press, Cooper authored several books addressing the public's right to know and the important role of the media in reporting the truth. In this way, he substantially contributed to the improvement of human society. link http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Kent_Cooper ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^))))))))00000000))))))))^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^+++++ Control of the Media With the control of the money came the control of the news media. Kent Cooper, head of the Associated Press, writes in his autobiography "Barriers Down": "International bankers under the House of Rothschild acquired an interest in the three leading European agencies." [51] (see below for 51 REF.) Thus the Rothschilds bought control of Reuters International News Agency, based in London, Havas of France, and Wolf in Germany, which controlled the dissemination of all news in Europe. ""Sorry Charlie" Colby was raised rude" How would you know how I was raised? Were you raised a bigot or did you become in your later years? Is it rude to point out you haven't documented your claims? You still haven't according to a 3rd party Cooper said in his 1942 book that "International bankers under the House of Rothschild acquired an interest in...Havas" note that he did not say they had a controlling interest or that the Rothschilds bought it on their own. If true did they still retain an interest, let alone control in 1963? Edited July 27, 2011 by Len Colby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Sorry Charlie, here’s the actual quote from Kent Cooper in Barriers Down: The Story of the News Agency Epoch: Toward the close of the nineteenth century, with the ascendancy of Emperor Wilhelm II, [Paul Julius] Reuter 's son, Herbert, who had relieved his father of the burdens of directing Reuters News Agency, turned more and more to Henri Houssaye, of Havas. Because of French antipathy toward Germany, Houssaye was willing enough to furnish to Reuters the balance of power in the triumvirate. Actually, the story is that, after the turn of the century, international bankers headed by the Rothschilds became interested in the ownership of all three agencies. Certainly they were important customers. Whether or not they were owners, they were credited with influence with all three agencies second only to the influence of their respective governments. Of all the agencies that were in the alliance just prior to the first World War, Reuters, with headquarters in London, was undoubtedly the most powerful. Dignified, conservative, omniscient, it had during the long years of its service ... http://books.google.com/books?id=CMo8HpmhKPkC&pg=PA65 http://books.google.com/books?id=mahZAAAAMAAJ&q=%22Because+of+French+antipathy+toward+Germany%22+intitle:Barriers+intitle:Down&dq=%22Because+of+French+antipathy+toward+Germany%22+intitle:Barriers+intitle:Down&hl=en&ei=ETYwTrjJIMaPsQK7qvFe&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Phelps Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) Yes, Steven, as the people learn more of how the power in the US has been abducted and abused to have Americans not only get involved in wars, but to pay for the wars contrived by others. It will all come down just like the situation in Weimar Germany. Soon, will come the issues that the US is close to insolvent and the money rating slipping from AAA. The rampant inflation, the control over the press, the lack of honest truth and too much propaganda. The cover up of multiple killings for this cause, not just JFK's. Abe Lincoln, MLK and others were offed by British Intelligence run in Montreal and their money connections. In the US, The Jewish and Royal interests are disproportionatly present in US Government, banking, media, Hollywood, etc. Which is a large part of the cover up for these killings and exploitation of the US. These conspiring corrupt interests need to be removed from the state and from the US Government. ======== http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/5735 Deadly enemy, deadly friend - The Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State ======== When those seeking to exploit the US come into clear view in these next years, the US take over will anger too many that sought real freedom and a new revolution to install JFK's ideas may come into vogue. Certainly Oliver Stone appears not even able to express his opinions: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/alana-goodman/2010/07/25/oliver-stone-jewish-dominated-media-prevents-hitler-being-portrayed-c And I'd think the same issue colored his ability to do JFK justice. Justice for JFK would expose the high level killers connected with PERMINDEX, then the long standing games of the UK Royals to treat the US just like it did China with Drugs and Tobacco. The idea is to keep the US weakened and also to exploit them for every cause of war to expand their Empire. The pendelum is about to swing back for corrections of these abuses of power. It is exceeding obvious for those that read outside of the propaganda: http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-controlledpress-folder.html ================ WWIII is likely close at hand, and everyone knows who the evil people are and there will be no place on Earth for them to hide as they pulled off with the UK in WWII. The US will awake to the simple issue that two allies really are not allies, but really the exploiters of the US and its people. They have been conquored from within, due to the corruption of the US Govt. So, Bush-41's prediction may come true as the US recognizes its traitors: "If the people were to ever find out what we have done, we would be chased down the streets and lynched." -- George H. W. Bush, cited in the June, 1992 Sarah McClendon Newsletter Edited July 28, 2011 by Jim Phelps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 1920: Agence Havas merges with Société Générale des Annonces. 1945: Agence Havas is nationalized. http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Havas-SA-Company-History.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Phelps Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) Steven, You may find this of interest regarding France: http://abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&id=255953 ========= Edited July 28, 2011 by Jim Phelps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Steven, You may find this of interest regarding France: http://abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&id=255953 ========= How touching that apparently after years of howling alone “the inventor that defined God for them and explained the messages of the Revelations" has found a kindred spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Phelps Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) JFK Producer Oliver Stone was complaigning about not being able to present the issues of Hitler's Reicht in the US, but it appears the Germans are more free to tell the story: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/28/“crystal-night”-in-1938-–-the-third-reich’s-911/ When the victors write the history, it oft times becomes distorted or suppressed. But, sooner or later, the truth always seems to surface. Even on the JFK assassination tied to PERMINDEX. Another bit of truth seeking insight as to what the Talmud is about: http://www.henrymakow.com/the_talmud.html 'The Jew alone regards his race as superior to humanity, and looks forward not to its ultimate union with other races, but to its triumph over them all and to its final ascendancy under the leadership of a tribal Messiah.' ============== And one can be certain that both Joe Kennedy and JFK both read this work from 1894 by Goldwin Smith and seen a good many of these observations of exploitation in prograss against the US. This is nothing new for this religion's methods and games to seek power and control and it has been happening since Roman times. Its interests killed the Czars, killed Abe Lincoln over their money machine, killed JFK because he knew these features, and killed MLK because he spoke for Peace and Palistine.: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n1p16_Smith.html The Vexing 'Jewish Question': A Nineteenth-Century Scholar's View It is evident that the policy which I proposed to the Turkish government [that is, the restoration of Palestine] might be adopted with equal advantage by England or any other European Power. The nation that espoused the cause of the Jews and their restoration to Palestine, would be able to rely on their support in financial operations on the largest scale, upon the powerful influence which they wield in the press of many countries, and upon their political co-operation in those countries, which would of necessity tend to paralyze the diplomatic and even hostile action of Powers antagonistic to the one with which they were allied. Owing to the financial, political, and commercial importance to which the Jews have now attained, there is probably no one Power in Europe that would prove so valuable an ally to a nation likely to be engaged in a European war, as this wealthy, powerful, and cosmopolitan race. A Nation Within the Nation Such a relation as that in which Judaism has placed itself to the people of each country, forming everywhere a nation within the nation, cherishing the pride of a Chosen People, regarding those among whom it dwelt as Gentiles and unclean, shrinking from social intercourse with them, engrossing their wealth by financial skill, but not adding to it by labor, plying at the same time a trade which, however legitimate, is always unpopular and makes many victims, could not possibly fail to lead, as it has led, to mutual hatred and the troubles which ensue. Certain as may be the gradual prevalence of good over evil, it is a futile optimism which denies that there have been calamities in history. One of them has been the dispersion of the Jews. As was said before, it is incredible that all the nations should have mistaken a power of good for a power of evil, or have been unanimous in ingratitude to a power of good. A Fresh Invasion None of them want to hurt the Jew or to interfere with his religious belief; what they all want is that if possible he should go to his own land. As it is, Western Europe and the western hemisphere are threatened with a fresh invasion on the largest scale by the departure of Jews from Russia. American politics are already beginning to feel the influence. A party, to catch the Jewish vote, puts into its platform a denunciation of Russia, the best friend of the American Republic in its day of trial. Jews are becoming strong in the British House of Commons and one of them the other day appealed to his compatriots to combine their forces against the political party which had been opposed to Jewish interests. That the Jew should be de-rabbinized and de-nationalized, in other words that he should renounce the Talmud, the tribal parts of the Mosaic law, and circumcision, is the remedy proposed by M. Leroy-Beaulieu, a writer by no means unfavorable to Israel. There seems to be no other way of putting an end to a conflict which is gradually enveloping all nations. This being done, whatever gifts and graces may belong to the race of Moses, David, and Isaiah, of the writers of the Book of Job and of the Psalms, of Judas Maccabaeus and Hillel, will have free course and be glorified. If Israel has any message for humanity, as he seems to think, it will he heard. Jewish merit will no longer be viewed with jealousy and distrust as having a sinister confederation at its back; and no man need fear in the present age that in any highly civilized community he will suffer persecution or disparagement of any sort on account of his religion. But the present relation is untenable. The Jew will have either to return to Jerusalem or to forget it, give his heart to the land of his birth and mingle with humanity. ============ Edited July 30, 2011 by Jim Phelps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 1920: Agence Havas merges with Société Générale des Annonces. 1945: Agence Havas is nationalized. http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Havas-SA-Company-History.html XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^++++++++^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ GOLLY GEE who founded Vivendi ???? ##############################00000000############################################ Vivendi Universal S.A. - Company Profile, Information, Business Description, History, Background Information on Vivendi Universal S.A. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ link http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/history2/14/Vivendi-Universal-S-A.html Read more: Vivendi Universal S.A. - Company Profile, Information, Business Description, History, Background Information on Vivendi Universal S.A. http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/history2/14/Vivendi-Universal-S-A.html#ixzz1TWBrlGwN The list of founders included the Rothschild family, a Fould, a Lafitte, the Duc de Morny--the emperor's half brother--and a large proportion of the imperial nobility. Shareholders included James de Rothschild, who had the largest single subscription of 5,000 shares, and a cross-section of members of the nobility, stockbrokers, and bankers. The initial capital was FFr 20 million which was raised from an 80,000 share subscription. Read more: Vivendi Universal S.A. - Company Profile, Information, Business Description, History, Background Information on Vivendi Universal S.A. http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/history2/14/Vivendi-Universal-S-A.html#ixzz1TWBjNMb8 ########################################################0000000################################ ROTHSCHILD advisor to Vivend SA are advising Vodafone on the transaction. Rothschild is Vivendi’s adviser. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-04/vivendi-s-levy-gets-full-control-of-cash-cow-with-11-3-billion-sfr-deal.html http://www.bestgrowthstock.com/stock-market-news/2010/11/03/rothschild-pays-500000-reais-to-end-brazil-probe/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2939084/Vivendi-battens-down-hatches-with-aid-of-two-investment-banks.html http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/75964f7c-5e2e-11e0-b1d8-00144feab49a.html#axzz1TWCtPatQ Lazard advised Vodafone and Rothschild advised Vivendi on the deal which is expected to be completed by the end of June. http://business.financialpost.com/2011/04/04/vivendi-to-buy-vodafone%E2%80%99s-sfr-stake/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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