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LOL, he was good.

Thanks for chasing down as close to the original 2 day presentation, Jim. If it can be found I think it could be an important fundament on which to build further on.

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Yeah he wus!!

This looks like the stats on the first Blue Book:

The Blue Book of the John Birch Society

Welch, Robert

Book Description: Robert Welch, ( Belmont, Masachusetts 1958 / 1959), 1959. Spiral-bound Wrappers. Book Condition: Very Good +. First Edition, First Printing. Scarce first printing (September 1, 1959), from the 1958 manuscript. Title page shows title and copyright notice ( of Robert Welch) only; no publisher or place of publication indicated, but postscript and application for membership both indicate the John Birch Society as the source of additional copies. Covers faded at edges but just lightly worn.

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Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Book-John-Birch-Society/dp/0882792156

~Blue Book of the John Birch Society~ was the verbose manifesto of the founder of the John Birch Society. It's a testament to how far Cold War paranoia can go. The JBS publishing arm distributed free-market literature from FEE, which was a good thing in my humble opinion. Yet Leonard Reed, who founded the Foundation for Economic Education, had not an iota of communist sympathies anymore than Robert Welch, but as Read wrote, Welch "sees a communist under every bed and blames our whole socialistic mess on the Moscow apparatus..." To some extent, from a hindsight is 20/20 perspective I would have to say that some of Robert Welch's Cold War criticisms against Democrats and Republicans, however, inept and unprincipled those men might be, bordered on the absurd. Welch presented too many well-meaning American citizens as pawns of Moscow or some conspiracy. Take the case of Welch's indictment of Eisenhower in another book. Eisenhower was the man who principally warned us of the military-industrial complex in his farewell address, as a huge defense apparatus became entrenched in the wake of World War II. But he was no advocate of total disarmament. Sure, Eisenhower compromised on the Korean War, he was no fiscal conservative, and I fault him for it too; but he was not a willful pawn of a conspiracy to sabotage the United States. I believe he operated from sincere motives. Senator Robert A. Taft, "Mr. Republican," challenged Ike at every turn. At a cabinet meeting on April 30, 1953, Ike told the congressional leadership that he did not expect to balance the budget, and submitted that he could cut the budget deficit from $9.9 billion to $5.5 billion but no more. An angry but principled Robert Taft pounded the table, and exclaimed, "The one primary thing we promised the American people was reduction of expenditures. With a program like this, we'll never elect a Republican in Congress in 1954! You're taking us down the same road Truman traveled! It's a repudiation of everything we promised in the campaign." But as one John Birch Society member once told me in 2007, Robert A. Taft is a pawn of the conspiracy too. How convenient? Taft is not without blemishes to a strict constructionist of the Constitution like myself, but such a smear is as absurd as it is fanciful. Where do they get such ideas to conjecture everyone as a pawn of a conspiracy? Probably Robert Welch. People that make such statements lack meaningful prudence in their epistemology (i.e., methodology for disseminating knowledge) and their historiography (i.e., methodology for interpreting historical events.) It reaches a point, where these people will believe anything that defies belief is believable simply because it is asserted. Having said that, I do believe that there are conscious ideologues who are hoping to establish a world government. There are people in the U.S. who want to create a North American Union, with Canada and Mexico, which I found disdainful. I do not consider their aims desirable in the least. And the globalist Council of Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission, and organizations lamented by the Birchers do not frankly have our nation's best interests at heart.

I have read a great many books by the John Birch Society, and books by outside publishers. I think they need to face up to their past paranoia, admit some of it got out of hand particularly as they attacked people's reputations. Otherwise, they will always find their membership full of eccentrics. They should dust off their old Cold Warrior image for the twenty-first century. The 1960s was a time of social convulsions, domestic radicalism and the threat of nuclear war loomed, and it understandably nurtured fear and paranoia. Having said that, I do think their contemporary magazine The New American is a very well-researched and professional journalistic endeavor. I think their promotion of constitutional government and education aims of the John Birch Society does a lot of good for those who encounter it. I learned a lot buying books from their publishing arm American Opinion books as a teenager. I also shared their Cold War paranoia well into the 1990s.

Content aside, the latest AOBS reprints of this book are poorly bound. It's too tight, which makes it hard to read, and mine just fell apart even I cracked the spine trying to hold it open. Other books are likely prone to such defects.

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It appears that Welch is connected to the nuclear establishment, as he seems to harp on the Russians stealing all the US nuclear weapons secrets. They had one highly placed US Farm-boy that stole every US nuclear secret and gave them to Russia. He was one of their national heros, and passed on about 4 years back. He had complete access to everything with a camera and his own Govt. Jeep. His name was "George Koval"

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/12/us/12koval.html

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It should be becoming clear that the John Burch Society and especially Robert Welch was the instigator for the Cold War and the prime Networking Agent that fermented their collective efforts to kill JFK for not serving their purpose.

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You don't need glasses to do a "copy and paste" from an EF information Bio page to call attention to it.

I was using a citation from the Education Forum's main information page here:

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKwelchR.htm

Where it painly tells this:

"Robert W. Welch died on 6th January, 1965"

So, the Education Forum's information is listing bogus information. Should this get fixed or ignored?

And do make sure you jump on this wrong information source much more intensely than myself.

I think it much more appropriate to fix the EF's screwed up information on its Bio inf URL, ask them to correct it, as I am sure not in charge of those listings.

Phelps does not realize that Spartacus Educational and the International Education Forum are two separate entities. John Simkin established the former in 1997. He co-established the latter in 2003.

Phelps repeatedly claims that others are "personally attacking him" on this thread when that is clearly not the case. What has been addressed are some of the conflicting claims he continues to make.

As long as Phelps continues to falsely claim others are personally attacking him, all the while posting his insults, I'll help him keep his thread at the "top of the list," as he calls it.

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You don't need glasses to do a "copy and paste" from an EF information Bio page to call attention to it.

I was using a citation from the Education Forum's main information page here:

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKwelchR.htm

Where it painly tells this:

"Robert W. Welch died on 6th January, 1965"

So, the Education Forum's information is listing bogus information. Should this get fixed or ignored?

And do make sure you jump on this wrong information source much more intensely than myself.

I think it much more appropriate to fix the EF's screwed up information on its Bio inf URL, ask them to correct it, as I am sure not in charge of those listings.

Phelps does not realize that Spartacus Educational and the International Education Forum are two separate entities. John Simkin established the former in 1997. He co-established the latter in 2003.

Phelps repeatedly claims that others are "personally attacking him" on this thread when that is clearly not the case. What has been addressed are some of the conflicting claims he continues to make.

As long as Phelps continues to falsely claim others are personally attacking him, all the while posting his insults, I'll help him keep his thread at the "top of the list," as he calls it.

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Mr. Hogan,

My name for you and your minion following is Mr. Phelps. Anything else will be considered disrespect.

Go somewhere else, your disruptions are not welcome on this threat that you seem intent upon loading is misleading conjecture and non-constructive non-sense.

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Interestingly, Guy Bannister, in New Orleans, is a John Burch Society extremist, and Lee Harvey Oswald was working for Guy Bannister and penetrated the plot to off JFK. Guy Bannister is also tied with Clay Shaw and the PERMINDEX operation of Shaw and Nagy, who is living in Dallas at the time of the JFK hit. Nagy has offered the killing services of PERMINDEX to the CIA, and the hate of the JBS in Dallas was extreme. :

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Banister

He gained notoriety from the allegations made by New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison after Banister's death that he had been involved in the assassination of John F. Kennedy. He was an avid anti-communist -- member of the Minutemen, the John Birch Society, Louisiana Committee on Un-American Activities and publisher of the Louisiana Intelligence Digest.

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Banister was implicated in a 1961 raid on a munitions depot in Houma, Louisiana, "...in which various weapons, grenades and ammunition were stolen ... which were reportedly seen stacked in Banister's back room by several witnesses."[13] The New Orleans States-Item newspaper reported that Banister served as a munitions supplier for the 1961 Bay of Pigs Invasion and continued to deal weapons from his office until 1963.[14]

In 1962, Banister dispatched an associate, Maurice Brooks Gatlin — legal counsel of Banister's "Anti-Communist League of the Caribbean" — to Paris to deliver a suitcase containing $200,000 for the French OAS.[citation needed] In 1963, Banister and anti-Castro activist David Ferrie began working for a lawyer named G. Wray Gill and his client, New Orleans Mafia boss Carlos Marcello. This involved attempts to block Marcello's deportation to Guatemala.[15][16]

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On the afternoon of November 22, 1963, the day that President John F. Kennedy was assassinated, Banister and one of his investigators, Jack Martin, were drinking together at the Katzenjammer Bar, located next door to 544 Camp Street, New Orleans. On their return to Banister's office, the two men got into a dispute. Banister believed that Martin had stolen some files and drew his .357 magnum revolver, striking Martin with it several times. During the altercation Martin yelled: "What are you going to do — kill me like you all did Kennedy?" Martin was badly injured and treated at Charity Hospital.[17]

Over the next few days, Martin told authorities and reporters that Banister and anti-Castro activist David Ferrie had been involved in the assassination. He claimed that Ferrie knew Oswald from their days in the New Orleans Civil Air Patrol, and that Ferrie might have taught Oswald how to use a rifle with a telescopic sight.[18] Martin also claimed that Banister had often been in the company of Ferrie, and that Ferrie drove to Texas on the day of Kennedy's assassination, to serve as a getaway pilot for the assassins.[19]

Witnesses interviewed by the House Select Committee on Assassinations "... indicate Banister was aware of Oswald and his Fair Play for Cuba Committee before the assassination."[20] The alleged activities of Banister, Ferrie and Oswald reached New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison who, by late 1966, had become very interested in the New Orleans aspects of the assassination. In December 1966, Garrison interviewed Martin about these activties. Martin claimed that Banister, Ferrie and a group of anti-Castro Cuban exiles were involved in operations against Castro's Cuba that included gun running and burglarized armories.[21]

As Garrison continued his investigation, he became convinced that a group of right-wing activists, including Banister, Ferrie and Clay Shaw, were involved in a conspiracy with elements of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to kill Kennedy. Garrison would later claim that the motive for the assassination was anger over Kennedy's attempts to obtain a peace settlement in both Cuba and Vietnam.[22][23] Garrison also believed that Banister, Shaw, and Ferrie had conspired to set up Oswald as a patsy in the JFK assassination.[24][25]

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Banister's publication, the Louisiana Intelligence Digest, maintained that the civil rights movement was part of an international communist conspiracy and therefore treasonous. A black reporter, Louis E. Lomax, investigating the possible connection of Banister to the assassinations of Kennedy, Martin Luther King and Malcolm X, died in a car accident shortly after signing a contract to help with a movie about the assassination of Malcolm X.[26][27]

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Then we get into the infamous ads and leaflets that were dropped on Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963, and lots of the John Burch Society were plotting the death of JFK. And keep in mind the connections of LHO with JBS's Bannister and Bannister's connections with Clay Shaw PERMINDEX and Nagy. Nagy was seen at Bannisters offices in New Orleans. Then we have these interesting new set of denials of the obvious on the JFK hit linked to notorious JBS extremists:

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http://www.thenewamerican.com/history/american/5992-a-renewed-myth-that-the-john-birch-society-incited-kennedy-assassination

A Renewed Myth That The John Birch Society Incited Kennedy Assassination | Print |

Written by Thomas R. Eddlem

Friday, 21 January 2011 14:55

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The Warren Commission concluded back in 1964 that it had "no evidence that the extreme views expressed toward President Kennedy by some rightwing groups centered in Dallas or any other general atmosphere of hate or rightwing extremism which may have existed in the city of Dallas had any connection with Oswald's actions on November 22, 1963."

But that hasn't stopped an increasing number of newspaper columnists in 2011 from likening the Arizona shooting earlier this month with a supposedly similar "atmosphere of hate" in Dallas in November 1963. Since this week marks the 50th anniversary of President Kennedy's inaugural address, it has become an occasion for even more opinion columns vainly attempting to fuse the two tragedies as the work of "right-wing hate groups."

Washington Post columnist Michael Gerson was quick to lift the Warren Commission Report's quote denying a "general atmosphere of hate" in his January 11 column and claim it was an established fact that Dallas was swimming in hate groups in 1963.

Likewise, John Farmer, Jr., dean of Rutgers School of Law-Newark, wrote in the New Jersey Star-Ledger January 16 about the supposed links The John Birch Society had to hate literature in Dallas at that time, referencing an anonymous "Wanted" poster accusing Kennedy of "treason." Farmer wrote: "The 'Wanted' poster bearing JFK’s likeness may have been published by the John Birch Society, but it could have had any number of sources." But the reality is that there were no real ties between The John Birch Society and the "Wanted" poster, which was highly offensive but not threatening, nor were there any ties between the "Wanted" poster and Lee Harvey Oswald. Had Farmer checked his facts, perhaps he wouldn't have resorted to baseless innuendo.

Professor Farmer may have been conflating the "Wanted" handbill with the full-page advertisement that ran in the Dallas Morning News the day Kennedy was shot. "On the very day JFK visited Dallas and died, the local newspaper, the Dallas Morning News, featured a full-page, black-bordered anti-Kennedy advertisement prepared and paid for by persons affiliated with the John Birch Society," wrote Donald E. Wilkes, Jr., professor of law, University of Georgia School of Law, back in 2006. Of course, "affiliated with" is a textbook example of vague weasel words that most true academics avoid. But Professor Wilkes is at least partly correct. The John Birch Society had no role in preparation or endorsement of the advertisement, but several people who purchased the advertisement were members of (or later joined) The John Birch Society.

The "Welcome to Dallas" ad in the Dallas Morning News was hardly a militant poster, however. The advertisement exclaimed that "we free-thinking and America-thinking citizens of Dallas still have, through a Constitution largely ignored by you, the right to address our grievances, to question you, to disagree with you and to criticize you." The full page advertisement, which ran in the November 22, 1963 Dallas Morning News, went on to criticize Kennedy for the debacle at Cuba's Bay of Pigs, increasing hostility to the United States abroad by foreign countries despite huge expenditures of U.S. foreign aid, and a general reluctance to use the executive office to prosecute communists criminally.

The "Welcome to Dallas" ad simply asked a series of questions that reflected serious policy differences with President Kennedy, nothing more.

The attack on conservatives as general messengers of hate was also resurrected recently by Madison, Wisconsin's WISC-TV personality Bill Wineke. Wineke wrote on the television station's website: "The 1960s were not a gentler time in American history. And they were not a more civil time. Robert Welch and his John Birch Society were the equal of any right-wing kook of today. School children in Texas cheered when they learned that Kennedy had been shot."

Newsbusters.org's Jack Coleman exploded this longtime liberal myth that children cheered the death of a President. The urban legend hails from Dallas' University Park Elementary School, and here's what really happened: "Because of the shooting, which took place at 12:30 p.m., the principal had decided to close the school early, though without telling the students why. The children at the school — including three of Barker's own — were merely happy to be going home early, he was told. There couldn't have been any spontaneous cheering at the news of Kennedy's murder, because no such news had been announced."

Yet the story that school children cheered the death of a President — promoted nationally by CBS News correspondent Dan Rather — took hold and established Dallas as a "city of hate" in the early 1960s in many American minds. Again, Wineke simply failed to check his facts.

Some veteran conservatives are almost accustomed to the falsehoods and distortions. "I was a very active [volunteer] section leader," Larry Waters, a Dallas resident in 1963 who is now vice president of The John Birch Society, told The New American. "I was part of a group of 10 men speaking under the auspices of the Dallas Civil Defense." Waters says that the liberal media were then chomping on the bit to blame the political "Right" for Kennedy's assassination. "The entire atmosphere had been shaped by two or three events that had happened a couple of months before the assassination," Waters told The New American, referring to the Dallas Morning News advertisement, the "Wanted" handbill, and a scuffle at an event by UN Ambassador Adlai Stevenson days earlier. Waters said that liberals then (and now on a national scale, apparently) "tried to make Dallas out as a city of hate. The writers in retrospect are trying to attach this to us."

Ironically, it's the same people on the political Left who cry loudest about hateful rhetoric who are the ones most prolifically spewing it, along with an ample helping of falsehoods and innuendo.

Disclaimer: The New American magazine is a corporate affiliate of The John Birch Society.

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The connections of General Walker tie to Lee Oswald, as Oswald was after the "Fascists" in the US and this was the "John Burch" gang and their "Minute Men", and these Robert Welch types trying to do scare tactics on Communism to boost their wealth and extremist right Capitalism Games into the front and start wars using American's wealth.

We all know that JFK booted Walker out of European Command in Germany over his selling John Burch Crap to the troops in Germany and trying to run over the US Foreign Policy as set by the President. JFK should have had Walker imprisoned for a long time or just shot----and likely JFK could have ordered that if he was a uniformed officer. Instead, it appears LHO was going to handle the Fascist and this is why De Mohrenschildt chided LHO on Hunter of Fascists, if it really happened. It could just as well have been setting the trap for LHO, as Walker was busy on the phone to Germany trying to make him the victim of LHO also, and get himself off the hook for helping the JBS kill JFK.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Walker

He next became the commander of the Arkansas Military district in Little Rock, Arkansas. During his years in Arkansas, he implemented an order from President Eisenhower in 1957 to quell civil disturbances during the desegregation of Central High School in Little Rock.

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In 1959, General Walker was sent to Germany to command the 24th Infantry Division. In 1961, however, he became involved in controversy. Walker initiated an anti-communist indoctrination program for troops called "Pro Blue" (due to Free World troops being colored blue on maps)[2] and was accused of distributing right-wing literature to the soldiers of his division, supplied to him by evangelist Billy James Hargis.[3]

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Walker organized protests in September 1962 against the use of federal troops to enforce the enrollment of African-American James Meredith at the racially segregated University of Mississippi. His public statement on September 29:

This is Edwin A. Walker. I am in Mississippi beside Gov. Ross Barnett. I call for a national protest against the conspiracy from within. Rally to the cause of freedom in righteous indignation, violent vocal protest, and bitter silence under the flag of Mississippi at the use of Federal troops. This today is a disgrace to the nation in 'dire peril,' a disgrace beyond the capacity of anyone except its enemies. This is the conspiracy of the crucifixion by anti-Christ conspirators of the Supreme Court in their denial of prayer and their betrayal of a nation.[6]

After a violent, 15-hour riot broke out on the campus, on September 30, in which two people were killed and six federal marshals were shot, Walker was arrested on four federal charges, including sedition and insurrection against the United States. He was temporarily held in a mental institution on orders from President Kennedy's brother, Attorney General Robert Kennedy.[7]

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In February 1963, Walker was making news by joining forces with evangelist Billy James Hargis in an anti-communist tour called "Operation Midnight Ride".[15] In a speech Walker made on March 5, reported in the Dallas Times Herald, he called on the United States military to "liquidate the scourge that has descended upon the island of Cuba."[16] Seven days later, Oswald ordered by mail a Carcano rifle, using the alias "A. Hidell."[17]

According to the Warren Commission, Oswald began to put Walker under surveillance, taking pictures of Walker's Dallas home on the weekend of March 9–10.[18] He planned the assassination for April 10. Oswald's wife Marina said that he chose a Wednesday evening because the neighborhood would be relatively crowded because of services in a church adjacent to Walker's home; he would not stand out and could mingle with the crowds if necessary to make his escape. He left a note in Russian for his wife Marina with instructions should he be caught.[19] Walker was sitting at a desk in his dining room when Oswald fired at him from less than a hundred feet (30 m) away. The bullet struck the wooden frame of the window, which deflected its path. Walker was injured in the forearm by fragments.

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http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brussell%20Articles/Nazi%20Connection%20to%20JFK%20Assass.html

Why was General Walker in such a hurry to get his information printed in Germany before anybody in Dallas ever heard about it?

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General Walker knew too many people in the Defense Department and in the Dallas-Fort Worth area that could be part of this assassination. He made himself appear as a victim instead of a suspect.

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This is likely what needs to happen as reperation for this 50 years of abduction of the US Govt. and running it into the ground.

The assets of a number of these allied organizations need to be seized and those that tried to conceal and keep the secrets need the same treatment as Neuremburg---hang them in public squares for treason.

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http://home.roadrunner.com/~markwrede/NonFic/PerennialMystery.html

H.L. Hunt was the local head of the John Birch Society in Dallas and Clint Murchison of the Minutemen, the militant wing of JBS.

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If the connection to the JFK assassination could be established, both the John Birch Society and the Minutemen would be branded as terrorist organizations, their members and financiers subject to arrest, their funds and the source of their funds seized. The families affected would include not just Hunt and Murchison, but wealthy elites from coast to coast.

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Perhaps the fliers and newspaper ad in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963 were a sort of "Insurance Policy" for the JBS, as they intentionally implicated a Jewish name, Bernard Weissman, via those fliers and ads. If the JBS found itself in a pinch, all they'd have to do is point at LBJ and Morris Jaffe, Louis Bloomfield and Clay Shaw, and Jack Ruby and the Bronfman gang:

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http://www.law.uga.edu/dwilkes_more/jfk_24blownaway.html

On the very day JFK visited Dallas and died, the local newspaper, The Dallas Morning News, featured a full page, black-bordered anti-Kennedy advertisement prepared and paid for by persons affiliated with the John Birch Society, one of the most infamous right-wing extremist organizations of the 1960’s. The ad claimed to be the work of “The American Fact-Finding Committee,” in reality a nonexistent organization. Bernard Weissman, listed on the ad as the chairman of the Committee, however, did exist; he was the person who actually placed the ad. Weissman later testified before the Warren Commission. He was one of the few witnesses before that body who deemed it prudent to appear accompanied by an attorney.

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Some things are more powerful than Atomic Bombs, and Caroline's release of her Mother's tapes shows that not only was RFK intent on Justice for his Brother JFK, but that Jackie also knew the score. JFK, Jr. also tried to avenge his father, and now it appears Caroline's move will make the walls of cover up fall due to their collective force of truth entering the world's opinion.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023418/Jackie-O-tapes-reveal-JFKs-affairs-believed-death.html

ABC executives claimed the tapes’ revelations were ‘explosive’.

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Jackie Onassis believed that Lyndon B Johnson and a cabal of Texas tycoons were involved in the assassination of her husband John F Kennedy, ‘explosive’ recordings are set to reveal.

The secret tapes will show that the former first lady felt that her husband’s successor was at the heart of the plot to murder him.

She became convinced that the then vice president, along with businessmen in the South, had orchestrated the Dallas shooting, with gunman Lee Harvey Oswald – long claimed to have been a lone assassin – merely part of a much larger conspiracy.

Texas-born Mr Johnson, who served as the state’s governor and senator, completed Mr Kennedy’s term and went on to be elected president in his own right.

The tapes were recorded with leading historian Arthur Schlesinger Jnr within months of the assassination on November 22, 1963, and had been sealed in a vault at the Kennedy Library in Boston.

The then Mrs Kennedy, who went on to marry Greek shipping tycoon Aristotle Onassis, had ordered that they should not be released until 50 years after her death, with some reports suggesting she feared that her revelations might make her family targets for revenge.

She died 17 years ago from cancer aged 64 and now her daughter, Caroline Kennedy, has agreed to release the recordings early

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Preorder now:

http://www.amazon.com/Jacqueline-Kennedy-Historic-Conversations-Life/dp/1401324258/ref=sr_1_39?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1312722793&sr=1-39

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http://www.library.arizona.edu/exhibits/udall/special/walker.html

THE DISMISSAL OF MAJ. GEN. EDWIN A. WALKER

A Special Report by

Congressman Morris K. Udall

There were other points brought out, as well. For example, the testimony revealed that Gen. Walker is a member of the John Birch Society, an organization whose leader says former President Eisenhower, John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles and other high officials of our government have been Communist dupes. Also, it was revealed that Gen. Walker made public statements which were derogatory of other present and former officials of our government. Such statements, of course, are wholly out of keeping for a military officer.

Three days before he left office last January former President Eisenhower said in a nation-wide television address, "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." I believe Mr. Eisenhower's warning is pertinent to this situation. In the course of our history we have always maintained civilian control of our government by elected officials responsible to the electorate. I firmly believe that this must continue.

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Lee Harvey Oswald's Boss in New Orleans

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Guy Banister -- Former FBI Agent and Naval Intelligence Operative. Also a Member of the Minutemen, the John Birch Society, the Louisiana Committee on Un-American Activities, and Publisher of the Racist Louisiana Intelligence Digest

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It appears the "enemy within", the "Insiders", is not the Communists, but the Royalists that sought the Federal Reserve and huge income taxes on the US to make the US pay for their wars.

All the "Rants and Raves" of the Robert Welch types with the John Burch Society's False Flag operations against the Communist Paranoia was a "Straw-Man" distraction to keep the Public's vision off of the "Insiders" that abducted their Government and exploited America and Americans.

JFK got onto their games for war making in IndoChina and was going to pull the plug on Vietnam, but the British Royalists wanted more of the same old Sassoon methods of running Opium to fuel wars. After JFK was offed, the Drug Invasion of the Brits hit the US like a ton of bricks as they became the victims of British Impearlism's Drug Running Operations to exploit America.

JFK was onto the Federal Reserve and put in place a non Federal Reserve, and exploitation free money called the "US Note". This was designed to transition the control of the US Money back to fully into the hands of the US People and not a Private International Conglomerate serving the British Banking Oligarchy and their quest for wars. The US never really became free of the Colonization methods of the exploitive British Royals.

JFK was for Civil Rights and got along with MLK. Yet, the Southern Hate was peaked against MLK and a group called the "Highlander Folk School" in Monteagle, Tennessee. The Civil Right hate was largely based in Georgia and that faction sent the State's photographer into get pictures of what they termed the Communist Highlanders School and MLK eating Lunch with White People and Square Dancing. This is where Joseph Milteer's hate was based in Georgia. Naturally, all that extreme hate they were terming as Communist joined hands with the John Birch Society's paraniod hate of Civil Rights. They teamed up with person like Bannister in New Orleans and the Dallas Hate Club of the John Birch Society in Dallas with Merchison and Hunt.

In 1961, They get the Highlander School's Charter cancelled in Nashville and the Highlanders move to Knoxville, Tennessee. Associated in 1956, a riot develops in Clinton, Tennessee and they blow up with High School with Dynamite and force the School into Oak Ridge Tennessee, which sets off all the DISC operations, as it is now in a USAEC town that exploits the Nergos in Nuclear Operations where they are all forced to live in a segregated area called Scarboro Community.

The Highlanders trained Rosa Parks, which kicked off the MLK round of Civil Rights in Montgomery, Alabama in 1955. In 1957, the Little Rock, Ark. riots involve DDE. The Freedom Riders in 1961. Washington is filled with Civil Rights protests in 1963, and the John Birch types of Southern Hate types are all calling for JFK to be dead. Conspiciously missing, due to the DISC connections is the Clinton, Tennessee roit in 1956. Clinton Tennessee was the home of the Clinton Engineering Works, which was a Code Name for the Oak Ridge Manhattan Project. DISC's operations, together with Hoover, were more than willing to kill JFK to end the worsening Civil Rights problems.

http://faculty.smu.edu/dsimon/change-civ%20rtsb.html

As matters worsen, the Civil Rights issues flame up in Alabama was their Governor's stance. JCS Curtis LeMay joins up with Alabama's Governor, George Wallace, who shows up in Dallas two days before JFK gets killed to announce his run for President, and the operation is run by Hunt, a John Birch Society Funder along with Clint Merchison.

The Highlanders ran out of Knoxville, Tennessee from 1961 to 1971, and even have the KKK do a march against the Highlanders in 1966, and much of it tied to the John Birch Society's aggitations.

The Dallas John Birch gang has been designing their kill JFK plans for many months and even the Corrupt FBI Chief former Chief in Chicago is down in New Orleans and he, Guy Bannister, is a John Birch Society member and the boss of Lee Harvey Oswald.

Bannister is big buddies with Clay Shaw and even Fernec Nagy shows up in Bannister's office to work in the PERMINDEX operations, which is controlled by British Intelligence Drug Operations in Montreal, Canada by Louis Bloomfield.

Just as conspicously missing from the Civil Rights equation is the central nexus for US Slavery was based entirely upon the "British Atlantic Triangle Trading Route" and their Jewish owned merchant ships that ran the circuit loop gathering slaves, selling them to the US Southern Plantations, buying Cotton and Tobacco and taking that to England and at each stop making lots of money in Atlantic Shipping trades. The Big issue is the British Royalists knew they were ultimately to be blamed for Slavery and were the cause of the Riots in the US.

Under British Intelligence in Montreal, Now they have all the money they need to fund a serious kill operation against JFK with the best shooters in the Mafia, the Corsican Drug Runners.

The rest of the story is JFK gets his Brains Blown out in Dallas, and the John Birch Society plotters have a giant celebration.

And the problem has not really been Communists, but the conspiring Royalist Oligarch games to use fear mongering to boost their take over of the US.

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http://www.granddelusion.com/2011/06/26/speech-by-robert-welch-in-1958-predicting-insiders-plans-to-destroy-america/

Speech by Robert Welch in 1958 Predicting Insiders Plans to Destroy America

Robert Welch’s 1958 Predictions Against American Liberties

The Voice Magazine

In 1958 Robert Welch, founder of the John Birch Society, made some startling predictions against American Liberty. He believed there was a group of insiders intent on “the surrender of American sovereignty piece by piece and step by step to various international organizations of which the United Nations is the outstanding but far from the only example.” He laid out his predictions in 10 points and repeated them in a 1974 conference:

1. Greatly expanded government spending for every conceivable means of getting rid of ever larger sums of American money as wastefully as possible.

2. Higher and then much higher taxes.

3. An increasingly unbalanced budget despite the higher taxes.

4. Wild inflation of our currency.

5. Government controls of prices, wages and materials supposedly to combat inflation.

6. Greatly increased socialistic controls over every operation of our economy and every activity of our daily lives. This is to be accompanied naturally and automatically by a correspondently huge increase in the size of our bureaucracy and the cost and reach of our domestic government.

7. Far more centralization of power in Washington and the practical elimination of our state lines. There is a many faceted drive at work to have our state lines to mean no more within our nation as our county lines do now within the states.

8. The steady advance of federal aid to and control over our educational system leading to complete federalization of our public education.

9. A constant hammering into the American consciousness of the horror of modern warfare. The beauties and the absolute necessities of peace, peace always on communist terms of course.

10. The constant willingness of the American people to allow the steps of appeasement by our government that amount to a piece meal surrender of the rest of the free world and the United States itself.

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Lyman Lemnitzer, the principle on "Operation Northwoods" scamming, is the one backing General Edwin Walker's games with the "John Birch Society" on the US Military in Germany.

Lemnitzer gets tossed off the JCS and sent to England over this screwing JFK via the JCS .

Lemnitzer's big JCS buddy, Curtis LeMay, joins up with Alabama Racist Governor, George Wallace, who is big buddies with JBS's HL Hunt in Dallas. Hunt has Wallace announce Presidential bid in Dallas two days before JFK arrives.

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http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKwalker.htm

David Talbot argues in his book, Brothers: The Hidden History of the Kennedy Years, that Walker's indoctrination program had been endorsed by General Lyman Lemnitzer. Talbot quotes a letter from Lemnitzer to Walker saying that he found his efforts "interesting and useful."

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In December 1962, Felipe Vidal Santiago had a meeting with a lawyer connected to a "Citizen's Committee to Free Cuba". He told Vidal about a conversation he had with Henry Cabot Lodge, who had been told by Walt Rostow, that John F. Kennedy was exploring "a plan to open a dialogue with Cuba." Vidal was furious about what he considered to be an act of betrayal and immediately told leaders of the anti-Castro community and his CIA contact, Colonel William Bishop. According to Dick Russell, Vidal was also "an information conduit for" General Walker.

On 10th April, 1963, Walker was victim of an assassination attempt while he sat at a desk in his Dallas home. It was later claimed that Lee Harvey Oswald had taken the shot at Walker. Marina Oswald reported that she "asked him what happened, and he said that he just tried to shoot General Walker. I asked him who General Walker was. I mean how dare you to go and claim somebody's life, and he said "Well, what would you say if somebody got rid of Hitler at the right time? So if you don't know about General Walker, how can you speak up on his behalf?." Because he told me... he was something equal to what he called him a fascist."

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Some suggest that if someone did succeeded in killing General Walker that JFK would have been alive today. And We'd have World Peace, no Federal Reserve exploitation, thus no National Debt problems, and no drug explotation of the US via these Crooks.

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The situation for JFK in 1963:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/125000-John-F-Kennedy-and-the-Pigs-of-War

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http://www.antifascistencyclopedia.com/allposts/the-origin-of-the-lbj-killed-jfk-psyop-bircher-james-evetts-haley

From “The Early Days of the John Birch Society,” Psychic Dictatorship in the USA II (2008), by Alex Constantine

…. President John Kennedy responded to Birch Society criticism of his adminsitration in an address delivered at a fund-raising dinner hosted by the Democratic Party at the Hollywood Paladium on November 18, 1961. “In recent months, I have spoken many times about how difficult and dangerous a period it is through which we move. I would like to take this opportunity to say a word about the American spirit in this time of trial. In the most critical periods of our nation’s history, there have been those on the fringes of our society who have sought to escape their own responsibility by finding a simple solution, an appealing slogan or a convenient scapegoat.” Political extremists, Kennedy said, sought the easy explanation for every national crisis and ignored political complexities. A downturn in the economy “could be explained by the presence of too many immigrants.” Wars were orchestrated by “international bankers.” China ended trade relations with the world not as a result of internal conflicts, but due to “treason in high places.” With their rhetoric, “these fanatics have achieved a temporary success among those who lack the will or the vision to face unpleasant facts or unresolved problems.” …

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The Mysterious Case of what appears to have been David Ferrie running around Winnipeg Canada.

The Witness appears to be telling of overhearig of meetings where Minutemen planned to off JFK.

http://karws.gso.uri.edu/jfk/the_critics/Whitmey/Man.html

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Knoxville, Tennessee had become a hot bed of issues in the 1960's due to the Civil Rights issues of Clinton, Tennessee, these issues being associated to the Highlanders Group in Monteagle, Tennessee, the Highlanders Group moving to Knoxville, Tennessee and the Communist theme of the Civil Rights era being centered right in Knoxville.

This effect spawned a lot of John Burch Society Members and racial hate that easily included JFK as a Black Loving Communist. If anyone thought Dallas hated JFK, Oak Ridge and Knoxville's hate was larger. And they had friends in Dallas.

A. G. Heinsohn of Knoxville, Tennessee quickly makes it to the Executive Committee for the JBS:

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http://www.thenewamerican.com/history/american/8348-heinsohn-not-cottoning-to-oppression

It was not until the launch of Robert Welch’s John Birch Society in December 1958 that A.G. Heinsohn found a patriotic organization with staying power. Although he was unable to attend the founding meeting in Indianapolis, he did attend the third meeting of the Society and joined immediately. Robert Welch appointed him to the executive committee of The John Birch Society, a position he held for the rest of his life. The John Birch Society had objectives similar to those of Heinsohn’s own Fighters for Freedom, and was organized along national lines not unlike the intended structure of the National Committee for Independent Political Action (though it is unlikely either of these organizations influenced Robert Welch in his design of The John Birch Society).

A.G. Heinsohn was an appalled witness to the nationwide defamation campaign conducted against The John Birch Society in the early 1960s, in which the Society was smeared as a racist, intolerant organization cut from the same cloth as the Ku Klux Klan. The smear campaign took a toll on the Society, but the organization, thanks to the leadership of Robert Welch and associates such as Heinsohn, persevered.

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Nashville also joins the club:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_J._Anderson

He remained active in conservative politics, notably as a council member of the John Birch Society and was widely popular as a speaker, appearing on various TV and radio programs and delivering more than 1,500 speeches[citation needed] between 1947 and 1994.

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There were others besides John Birch with similar stories that attracted similar attention. In particular, the Wallace Memorial Baptist Church was similar.

http://www.wmbc.net/templates/cuswallace/details.asp?id=31704&PID=322415

In spite of all that Wallace had done to help the Chinese, the new communist regime came to see him, as well as all foreigners, as a threat to their iron grip on the people of China. While many missionaries heeded the advice of their mission boards to leave China, Bill Wallace could not bring himself to leave the people he had come to love. After being accused of espionage and forced to sign a phony confession, Wallace eventually was beaten to death in a dark prison cell.

After Wallace's death, the Communist sought to bury his body in an unmarked grave to cover up their evil deed. Faithful Christian Chinese, not fooled by the ruse, found Wallace's body and laid him to rest in a proper service. They placed a marker there in Wouchow that simply read, "For Me to Live Is Christ."

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What few people tend to associate is that due to the Clinton, Tennessee Civil Rights problems and the fact that the Highlanders Folks School moved to Knoxville, Tennessee this area and Oak Ridge, Tennessee became a hot bed of hate against JFK, and it was worse than Dallas.

One Oak Ridge person that attended the Wallace Memorial Church went to school with Jack Ruby in Chicago and had connections back to Dallas, and he is credited with the switch in a failed plot to kill Castro that Oak Ridge assisted, to one to kill JFK. Lee Oswald apparently had been detected as a faker in the "Fair Play for Cuba" issues and denied entry to Cuba and the big kill Castro with Cancer Plot failed. LHO screwed up and listed a Banister associated address on his hand-outs and the Castro Intelligence would be paying close attention to that. Perhaps, LHO did that on purpose to tip things off, and that might have become the turning point into the plot to make him the patsy for the JFK hit.

But the heat on JFK was extreme by that time and it was a simple matter to point the extreme hate in Dallas to kill JFK.

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https://ldpd.lamp.columbia.edu/omeka/exhibits/show/group_research/patriotism/the_past

Vote Right-Vote White-Vote States Rights. The National States Rights Party, February 1964.

An outgrowth of the United White Party (founded circa 1957), the National States Rights Party came into its own in 1958 in Knoxville, Tennessee. Its primary leaders were Edward R. Fields and J.B. Stoner, who met in law school. It was there that they first worked together on the white supremacist and anti-Semitic causes that were the cornerstone of the NSRP’s platform. As the party’s constitution explained: "We . . . believe in the Christian heritage of our people, the White Race and the Nation which the Whiteman created out of the wilderness of this continent." The NSRP was never a significant political force, despite claiming to be "America’s third largest party." It fielded candidates for president and vice-president in both 1960 and 1964, winning 44,984 votes with Arkansas governor Orval Faubus on the ticket in 1960, but only 6,953 votes with New York’s John Kasper in 1964.

The pictured item is from a flyer advertising the NSRP’s national convention to nominate candidates for the 1964 election. As is apparent here, the NSRP drew heavily on Nazi symbolism, publishing a newsletter called the Thunderbolt in reference to an icon used by several Nazi organizations during World War II. The jagged symbol in the center of the standard used by the NSRP and pictured here is composed of the two s-shaped runes that signified the Nazi Schultzstaffel ("S.S."), although the NSRP arranged them to overlap rather than appear next to each other (as was the case with the original Nazi symbol).

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Crossing 2,000 view hits---not too bad.

Ran into another hot little item on how they screwed over Jim Garrison and who were the principle players and the "safety zone" provided in California by Reagan:

http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1981/eirv08n50-19811229/eirv08n50-19811229_058-how_permindexs_walter_sheridan_t.pdf

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The "Crooks" of the Warren Commission who were conspiring with Crooked LBJ and Hoover to cover up the JFK assassination almost got away with their crime until Jim Garrison started reading the Warren Report and decided it is contrived garbage with massive holes in the logic.

The stupid and corrupt Warren Commission tried to follow the script handed to them to only find one shooter and only shooting from the TSBD, and frame the designated Patsy. This was the plot of the JBS and Minutemen, but they had back up plans to leverage against LBJ and Hoover if they failed. It would literally place the noose around LBJ's and Hoover's neck, if they failed in the slightest.

When one looks more closely, one finds the real plotters, JBS's/Minutemen were very clever to have a secondary plan in place, in case the Patsy story didn't fly. The back-up plan was that the real shots came from Dal-Tex, which hooks up Jewish Morris Jaffee, LBJ, and the USAEC. They also hooked up a Jewish anti-Communist, Weissman, in the Dallas newspaper. And the really big Jewish person with the PERMINDEX connections pulled in with Nagy of Dallas, Clay Shaw of Norleans, and on up to Mortimer Bloomfield.

Jim Garrison's investigations quickly spotted a bunch of crooks and his investigators were hot in the trail of Clay Shaw and PERMINDEX's hit squad. Then the witnesses started having odd deaths to keep them from telling the real story. Shaw moves his records to California, where Ronnie Reagan helps to conceal Shaw and PERMINDEX from Garrison's prying investigative eyes.

Then Mockingbird's NBC sicks Walter Sheridan on the Garrison Investigation, and he is busy trying to screw over Garrison from connecting the PERMINDEX hit squad to the JFK assassination. The Crook's worst nightmares on the JFK cover up by the Warren Commision had come into view, and once that happened there was only one layer between PERMINDEX and the dirty deals in Dallas with the JBS/Minutemen and putting Hoover's and LBJ's necks in the noose for conspricy to kill JFK.

The JFK assassination was never a simplistic plot and it did have various layers of the so called "Onion Skin" to peel away to get down to the real plotters and their many leveraging and diversion plans. It was an epic plot of how JBS/Minutemen insiders designed a plan to kill JFK and set up more persons than just Lee Oswald to take the fall if things closed in on them.

LHO as the Patsy was just a little part of the Patsy story the crooks fashioned to take the blame for the JFK hit. When Garrison found Clay Shaw and his Canadian Bloomfield Big Jewish/Bronfman Mafia/UK Intelligence/DISC/FBI-5/Hoover connection, Garrison cut loose the second layer of the Onion Skin due to the poorly constructed and faked up first layer being so obvious a poorly designed script.

Yet, Garrison was still one layer away from the real crooks that designed the JFK hit and hooked up the PERMINDEX gang toward their goals, as well as diversion tactics.

I think it was David Ferrie who first brought up the issue of the "enigma" in the JFK hit and the "onion skin" concepts, and this is most all those issues all peeled away into plain view of all the Crooks.

By Definition, An enigma is a type of riddle generally expressed in radical or allegorical language that requires ingenuity and careful thinking for its solution.

The JFK hit was via this design concept.

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Some of the unusual issues per General Edwin Walker, once one considers that he was a JBS type that was linked to the LDS/Mormons is this one:

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http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/history/wc_period/reactions_to_warren_report/Reactions_of_left/Testimony_of_eyewitnesses--Cook/Testimony_of_eyewitnesses.html

For one thing, there are some indications, vague and indefinite but still disturbing, that Oswald was not alone in the Walker attempt. Robert Alan Surrey, who described himself as General Walker’s partner in a book-publishing venture devoted to right-wing propaganda (he claimed the Fifth Amendment when the Warren Commission sought to question him about his role in distributing a scurrilous handbill that showed President Kennedy’s picture under the headline, “Wanted for Treason”) said that two nights before the shooting he had seen a car parked about 20 yards from Walker’s house: “I saw two men around the house peeking into the windows and so forth.” The men leaped into the car and sped away. Surrey chased them, but lost them. The next morning he reported the incident to General Walker, who notified the police. Surrey said he had not had a good look at either of the prowlers, and could not identify either as Oswald.

On the night of the Walker shooting, a next-door neighbor, Walter Kirk Coleman, 15, heard the sound of the shot. He ran out and peered over a picket fence into a Mormon Church parking lot that adjoined the Walker property. Coleman subsequently told authorities that he saw two men. One was hurrying toward the driver’s seat of a Ford, parked headed out with lights on and motor running. The other went to a Chevrolet parked by the fence adjacent to the Walker property, and appeared to put something into the back of the car before getting in behind the wheel. Coleman could not tell whether there was anyone else in either car. Both cars drove away. Later, shown a picture of Oswald, Coleman told the FBI that neither of the men he saw resembled Oswald. And there it ends.

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The irony part is the shot came from person parked in the Mormon Church's parking lot, and Walker's house is right next door to a Mormon Church. Such as association is not to be overlooked, as the Mormons/LDS were big on JBS backing originally. Had that shooter succeeded, we'd likely not seen JFK killed in Dallas. Makes one wonder if someone in that Monmon group spotted the evil of Walker's JBS involvements.

It is interesting to consider who was doing who for the General Walker involvements in the JBS designed JFK hit. Dallas ends up being a bit of a Nut House of hate.

The other interesting parts is Gen. Walker was West German stationed, and that would surely link him to the Gehlen Spy organization's leaks, that the US kept from Hitler's days to continue to spy on Russia. The "Gehlen Organization" was kept by the US Army's G-2, but became the German BND. They didn't take to chasing German war criminals, as they likely knew most of the deaths came from Allied Bombing campaigns of Germany cutting food and medicine supplies. Gehlen himself lasted in the BND until 1968, then he was forced out.

Then, the Germans end up helping the Egyptians design rockets and give nuclear technology consultation, which upsets the Israelis and causes JFK all kinds of problems. It almost looks rigged and part of the plan to screw JFK.

JFK denies the Israelis any rights to engage in nuclear proliferation to keep the Soviets from thinking the US is pulling a new version of Jupiter Nuclear Rockets in Turkey. JFK's peace plan with Khrushchev, as well as Castro, had priority. Jupiter Rockets were designed by Redstone Arsenal, down in Alabama, and by NAZI rocket scientists that Dornburger used to command in Germany.

JFK is so concerned on the Peace process with Russia, that is inquires about the UFO stuff linked to Roswell AFB and the White Sands rocket and nuclear testing range. The German Rocket scientists were playing with nukes and German Saucer technologies and lost one of their experiments that was more a human experiment war crime issue that would certainly cause problems for NAZI Rocket Scientists down at Ft. Bliss. That was the CIA's biggest and most damaging secret JFK wanted to know about.

But that German plot of Rockets for Egypt would put JFK in a serious debacle, and it could well be used to draw in the PERMINDEX interests to off JFK.

Walter Dornburger is right in Dallas with General Walker and Dornburger is none to happy a person over the German's not winning. Dornburger and all the rocket scientists likely don't want JFK to know about the 1947 White Sands USAEC experiment gone wrong. Dornburger is tied to Mike Paine via Bell Aerospace Systems in Dallas that makes rocket engines for NASA. Ruth Paine is basically half CIA associated and she has control over Marina.

Ruth Paine screws up Marina's translation to the Dallas Police to set the hook into LHO, and Maria is playing all kinds of games to keep from being deported back to Russia.

So, was the ultimate plot a German one that screwed the US like Germany was screwed by the Royalist Bankers and ultimately ruin the US in the same fashion that Germany was ruined by Versalles.

Or were the Germans playing along with Gen. Walker in setting up JFK in some fashion?

Or that Egypt deal just happened and Gen. Walker saw an opportunity to screw JFK.

Or the ultimate deal where the Germans had incentives and helped to screw JFK because the corrupted Royalist bankers made a deal to keep the German's 1947 Roswell testing screw up as US secrets.

Was it the Gen. Walker type JBS plans to promote the Fascist Royalist bankers stranglehold on the US in order to get JFK? Was Walker conspiring with the German NAZI's fearfull on Roswell's secret leaking out, as incentives for them to help him. Most likely that JFK info request hit the CIA and the FBI and DISC quickly.

The Rockefellers were certainly behind the invention of Robert Welch and the JBS. Either way, the US was screwed to the max and the Royalist's Oligarchic Games continued to exploit the US to the extreme.

War became a racket and Royalist bankers profit from both sides in a war, and that is the ultimate game. It is the NWO games of continual wars leading to One World Oligarchic control.

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