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"K.O. the Kennedys"

http://www.orwelltoday.com/jfkjbs.shtml

"Actually, in agreeing to go to Texas, JFK knew he was heading into extremely hostile territory. Joe Pool - the Democratic Congressman from Dallas - was heavily backed by big money . He told "Big D" constituents that the Kennedy administration had "turned my stomach". The mayor of Dallas - Earle Cabell - was a friend and associate of Robert Welch, the founder of the John Birch Society. The mayor and his wealthy cronies hated JFK. Some of them affixed bumper-stickers to their cars saying "K.O. the Kennedys". Their wives played a game called "Which Kennedy do you hate the most?". Prosperous, well educated young marrieds gathered over jumbo highballs in the trendy suburbs to swap jokes about assassination and lewd gossip about the First Family.

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There were some that knew the JBS frame ups and planning, there were lots that knew and were scared to talk as they knew these guys would kill big leakers, and there were some that just went along to get along. DC has been and continues to be totally corrupt and bought and paid for.

But for anyone that knows the Dallas issues of that time, Solving the JFK assassination is easy. Hunt and Walker were big German and NAZI good ole boy supporters, and Walked connected with Ghalen in Germany. So, as vengeful Walker's hate peaked they were busy pulling in all the Jewish Mafia guys they could involve. So, they hooked up ole Ruby, pushed the Israel issues to hook Rosenbauum, then Bloomfield. Good NAZI planning to hook the Jewish types over the Israel Dimona deal with JFK. So, all the Southern JFK Hate Network clear to Georgia and Joe Milteer knew they were going to shoot for a big Jewish involvement, and toss the origination off the trail of the Dallas JBS Hate Club.

LHO was first game, if that failed--dump the Jewish involvement---if that failed dump the Defense Contractors---then LBJ and Hoover. Shots came from Dal-Tex for a reason to tie in Jaffe and LBJ. Since it was so big---all the FBI good ole boys were busy telling everyone it was too big to get into. So, they played the LHO done it script. That script was so stupid, even the FBI agents and others resorted to witness intimidation to shoe horn in the Oswald done it pariah story.

All the lead JBS JFK planners had to do it keep tossing the cards down to implicate all the players lower in the chain until it all gets to hot for them to handle. Once they got Hoover and LBJ associated in the plot----it was a done deal for the JBS gang success in Dallas.

Hoover even gets Hunt tucked away to keep him safe and perhaps coordinate the FBI's denial games for the number of shots, from where, and run the LHO done it script. Even one person that appears to have known part of the Ruby script gets knocked off.

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http://www.phils.com.au/jfk.htm

Texas oilman H.L. Hunt was taken into protective custody by federal agents after the assassination and kept in another city for a few days (DeMohrenschidt would later claim to have been the link between Oswald and H.L. Hunt in an FBI/Right Wing plot to kill Kennedy). Ferrie may have flown to Dallas on the night of the 22d. Cuban Bay of Pigs vet Ruedolo arrives in Madrid, Spain five days after the assassination, and is jailed for having an invalid visa. Jack Zangetti, an Oklahoma City motel manager is murdered after telling friends the day after the assassination that Ruby would kill Oswald and that a member of the Sinatra Family would be kidnapped soon afterward to divert attention away from the assassination (Frank Sinatra Jr was kidnapped and released unharmed). Oswald is murdered by Jack Ruby while in police custody, on television. Lyndon Johnson is inaugurated on the plane back to Washington.

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Amazing 31 straight lengthy posts from the same member, and it doesn't seem to occur to him that nobody gives a flying f^#& let alone reads them!

I've read them and find them quite interesting. Len, you also asked me what the differance was between smart ass and bright, well Len, below you will find my answers.

Bright:

Radiating, illustrious, intelligent, clever, auspicious, promising.

Smart Ass:

Len Colby

I'm sure you would agree with Obama that we now have 60 States. Let me break it down for you, if he hasn't been too Alaska or Hawaii and has one more State to go that means we now have 60 States, he's bright.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20673422/Archie%20Bunker%20and%20Obama.wmv

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I guess the 3,333 views must be invisible for one that just likes discourse.

Most everyone puts the non-constructive discourse types on block or hidden, so you don't have to see their nonsense.

Just ignore the discourse intending types.

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A little better look at the real Texas---its history and a land of rebellion still today. And an Ugly British influence via an ugly Churchill relative.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=16246

After what Britain did to the US with slavery profitteering and running drugs into the US, I'd toss Churchills likeness out of anywhere near a Govt office. Churchill's offsping are still problems.

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Keep in mind that anyone that seriously wants to solve the JFK hit must put the JBS at the forefront for the plotters.

That means look at the Big Oil aspects from Koch (NAZI associated), Pew, Hunt (NAZI supporter), and others. And the issue that Rockefeller (Standard Oil and German associations via Farben) set Robert Welch up to start the JBS. Also, add in ardent NAZI Walter Dornburger at Bell Aerospace (they make rocket engines) in Dallas with the Paines (CIA) connecting to setting up Oswald as the "patsy" at the TSBD. Add in General Walker and his German connections with Gehlen organization. Lots of German helpers.

Then, especially look at Koch and that German NAZI connection. So, when one considers that the JBS plotters were very busy connecting up all the Jewish types they could gather into the JFK hit, this is one of the reasons to hook up the Jewish types from Jack Ruby on up to Mortimer Bloomfield (Canada-Brit Intelligence-Zionist) and Tibor Rosenbaum (Mossad).

There is little wonder that Joseph Milteer, from over in Georgia and the middle of the Civil Rights mess, is networked with Dallas JBS gang:

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http://unknownjournal.wordpress.com/2010/10/06/%E2%96%BC-report-the-kochs-their-nazi-past-american-oil-the-foundation-of-republican-ideology/

American Fred Koch, and through association the Kochs from Germany, establish the John Birch Society in the 1950s in NY, which becomes the policy center for American conservatives. The society was built on Fred Koch’s oil money in the 1950s and can be thought of as the center of neo-conservative politics as well as the Tea Party movement. The ideologies of each are not the same – but the Tea Party fits into the neo-conservative put for colonial corporate police state as a sort of consumer citizen of the neo-conservative strategy mad as hell at the government and the legacy of liberalism, postmodernism, multiculturalism, taxes….etc.

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Fred Chase Koch

….(September 23, 1900 – November 17, 1967) chemical engineer and founded the TEXACO oil refinery firm that later became Koch Industries (Chevron). Koch and its customers were sued for patent infringement, process for turning crude oil into gasoline. Litigation effectively put Winkler-Koch out of business in the U.S. for several years. Koch turned his focus to foreign markets, including the Soviet Union and NAZI GERMANY, reportedly with the help of ERICH KOCH.

During his time in the Soviet Union, Fred Koch came to despise communism and Josef Stalin’s regime “a land of hunger, misery and terror”.

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Information connecting Ilse and Koch Industries is hard to find but is a string of fragments, pieces of information that connects the American and German Kochs and this connection gives us a clear image of the sentiment behind the Tea Party and conservative American politics since the 1950s. Where is the connection between the German Koch’s and Fred Koch? Besides evidence the American Koch was related to Ilse’s family, Erich Koch (a high level Nazi official in charge of Prussia) invites Fred Koch to sell his oil in Nazi Germany when he is banned from doing business in the US. After the fall of Nazi Germany, Erich Koch and Fred expand the oil empire to the Soviet Union. Erich Koch had been in charge of Prussia for Hitler so his ties to the Soviet Union ran deep. A few years later the Soviets took Fred Koch’s oil and prosecuted Erich for war crimes – Fred Koch returned to the US, became anti-communist, and was allowed to do business in the States again.

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Ilse Koch

Koch married Ilse Köhler with whom he had a son and two daughters. Köhler later became known as “The ***** of Buchenwald. She was accused of taking souvenirs from the skin of murdered inmates with distinctive tattoos. She built an indoor sports arena, which cost over 250,000 marks, most of which were taken from the inmates arrested by the Gestapo for embezzlement of SS funds and the murder of certain inmates in an attempt to cover up these crimes.

She was tried for war crimes by an American military tribunal in 1947. Prosecuting her was future United States Court of Claims Judge Robert L. Kunzig. She was charged with ”participating in a criminal plan for aiding, abetting and participating in the murders at Buchenwald.” The tribunal found Koch guilty and sentenced her to life imprisonment.

After she had served two years, General Lucius D. Clay, the interim military governor of the American Zone in Germany, pardoned her. Owing to international condemnation, however, Koch was re-arrested in 1949 and tried before a West German court for instigation to murder in 135 cases. She was sentenced to life imprisonment on January 15, 1951. She committed suicide by hanging herself at Aichach women’s prison on September 1, 1967

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Fred Chase Koch

….(September 23, 1900 – November 17, 1967) chemical engineer and founded the TEXACO oil refinery firm that later became Koch Industries (Chevron). Koch and its customers were sued for patent infringement, process for turning crude oil into gasoline. Litigation effectively put Winkler-Koch out of business in the U.S. for several years. Koch turned his focus to foreign markets, including the Soviet Union and NAZI GERMANY, reportedly with the help of ERICH KOCH.

During his time in the Soviet Union, Fred Koch came to despise communism and Josef Stalin’s regime “a land of hunger, misery and terror”.

Fred C. Koch married Mary Robinson in Kansas City, Missouri in 1932. They had four sons, Frederick (b. 1933), Charles (b. 1935), David (b. 1940) and William (b. 1940). His sons are Charles de Ganahl Koch and David H. Koch.

The New York Times on Charles and David:

“Koch Industries began with oil in the 1930s and now also spews an array of industrial products, from Dixie cups to Lycra, not unlike DuPont’s portfolio of paint and plastics. Sometimes the biological DNA persists as well. The Koch brothers’ father, Fred, was among the select group chosen to serve on the Birch Society’s top governing body. In a recorded 1963 speech that survives in a University of Michigan archive, he can be heard warning of “a takeover” of America in which Communists would “infiltrate the highest offices of government in the U.S. until the president is a Communist, unknown to the rest of us”. That rant could be delivered as is at any Tea Party rally today.

Last week the Kochs were shoved unwillingly into the spotlight by the most comprehensive journalistic portrait of them yet, written by Jane Mayer of The New Yorker. Her article caused a stir among those in Manhattan’s liberal elite who didn’t know that David Koch, widely celebrated for his cultural philanthropy, is not merely another rich conservative Republican but the founder of the Americans for Prosperity Foundation, which, as Mayer writes with some understatement, “has worked closely with the Tea Party since the movement’s inception”. To New Yorkers who associate the David H. Koch Theater at Lincoln Center with the New York City Ballet, it’s startling to learn that the Texas branch of that foundation’s political arm, known simply as Americans for Prosperity, gave its Blogger of the Year Award to an activist who had called President Obama “cokehead in chief.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/opinion/29rich.html

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The John Birch Society

The foundation is financed via the oil and gas fortunes of Fred G. Koch, a founding member of the John Birch Society. Koch ”wrote admiringly of Benito Mussolini’s suppression of Communists in Italy, and disparagingly of the American civil-rights movement.

http://www.jbs.org/

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And what are the Birchers into today?

http://www.jbs.org/legislation/help-bring-canadian-oil-to-american-refineries

Big Oil and Big Oil Pipelines from Canada to YS

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Big oil bankrolled Robert Welch and the JBS

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http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/53/pew.html

* John Birch Society (JBS): J.H. Pew was a longtime supporter and close friend of Robert Welch, who founded the JBS in 1959. For many years, it led America’s far-right, rabidly anti-communist pack. By 1963, funded largely by J.H. Pew and other oil and military corporations, the JBS had 1,000 chapters and 80,000 members.

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Amazing 31 straight lengthy posts from the same member, and it doesn't seem to occur to him that nobody gives a flying f^#& let alone reads them!

I've read them and find them quite interesting. Len,

That neither surprises nor impresses me, I assume Gaal likes his posts as well.

you also asked me what the differance was between smart ass and bright, well Len, below you will find my answers.

Bright:

Radiating, illustrious, intelligent, clever, auspicious, promising.

Smart Ass:

Len Colby

Your jibes rarely rise above the infantile level. And actually I asked what the difference was between 'bright' and 'smart' not 'smart ass'

I'm sure you would agree with Obama that we now have 60 States. Let me break it down for you, if he hasn't been too Alaska or Hawaii and has one more State to go that means we now have 60 States, he's bright.

Ironic considering all the times you've 'misspoken' on this forum.

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In this bit of information we capture the comments from "Morris Bealle", who wrote "The Drug Story" which is a collector book about the Rockefellers getting into drugs and leading into control of the AMA and medical schools.

We also get to capture the Rockefeller formed CIA of the South America, and how this links into New Orleans Trade Mart with Clay Shaw, and just why Ferenc Nagy went to sell PERMINDEX to Rockefeller.

Then one gets to see who really started and controlled the John Birch Society via Robert Welch.

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http://www.seekgod.ca/rockefeller.htm

While unknown to many, Robert Welch, founder of the John Birch Society, was helped by the sale of his brother's Candy Company to Rockefeller owned National Biscuit Company, which for many would appear to be in direct opposition to the JBS goals. Robert, with some of his original candy recipes, had joined James Welch after his own candy business shut down.

In the obituary of James O. Welch, published February 1, 1985 by the New York Times, it was stated:

"...He founded his candy company in 1927 in Cambridge, Mass. Over the years the company produced such popular brands as Junior Mints and Milk Duds.

In 1963 the National Biscuit Company, now Nabisco Brands Inc., bought Mr. Welch's company. Mr. Welch was a director of Nabisco from 1963 until his retirement in 1978. His son, James O. Welch Jr., of Short Hills, N.J., is president of Nabisco.

...An older brother, Robert H. W. Welch Jr., founder of the John Birch Society, died Jan. 6. " [James O_ Welch Dies at 79; Founder of Candy Company - New York Times http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9406E7DA133BF932A35751C0A963948260]

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".... To enable Robert Welch, a 32nd degree Mason, to devote all of his time to the John Birch Society, Nelson Rockefeller purchased his family firm, the Welch Candy Company, from him at a most handsome price. Welch chose the principal officers of the John Birch Society from his acquaintances at the Council on Foreign Relations..." 19

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In the article My 'One-Minute' Membership In the John Birch Society, the following information, concerning the buyout of the Welch Candy Company is related:

".... In the August 1965 edition of Capsule News, Morris Bealle (now deceased) laid it bare. He wrote:

Robert Welch (and his brother Jimmy) received a tremendous payoff from the House of Rockefeller two years ago, for organizing the John Birch Society and sitting on the communist lid for the past seven years. The total pay-off was $10,800,000, less the value of the family candy company, which is reputed to be maybe $100,000 or $200,000.

On October 1, 1963, Rockefeller's National Biscuit Company announced the "purchase" of the James O. Welch Candy Company of Cambridge, Massachusetts.

In Moody's Manual of Industrials, and in Standard-and-Poor's Business Index, NBC gave the alleged purchase price as "200,000 shares of National Biscuit common stock." According to The Wall Street Journal for Oct. 1, 1963, NBC common stock was selling for $54 a share on the New York Stock Exchange.

Today it is selling for $58. Thus the Welch brothers were given $10,800,000 just like that."

Candy people say the whole family business, with plants and five sales offices, [was] hardly worth $200,000. Welch will tell those dopes who will believe him mat National Biscuit is not a Rockefeller concern.

Again, Moody's Manual will trip him up. It lists as two of the directors the names of Roy E. Tomlinson and Don. G. Mitchell. [both are] members of the Council on Foreign Relations. Further, they are a pair of Rockefeller's "professional directors." Tomlinson is also a director of their Prudential Life and American Sugar Refining.

It was American Sugar that was directly concerned with the financing and embargoing into the hands of Communist Russia of Cuba in 1959. They made the deal with Castro, which ended freedom on the island of Cuba and made possible those Havana missile bases designed to wipe out American eastern seaboard cities.

It also appears that the Rock Mob financed and promoted the organization of the John Birch Society. How else could it have gotten millions of dollars worth of newspaper publicity by the phony "attacks" on Welch that came with dramatic suddenness.

And, for the record, in more recent years, famed populist historian Eustace Mullins, author of The Federal Reserve Conspiracy, The World Order and other classics, has said publicly-more than once-that his research led him to the conclusion that the Birch Society was indeed a creation of the Rockefeller empire, based on precisely the same data that led Bealle to reach his assessment. So Bealle was not standing alone, by any means, in making these allegations..." end quote [http://www.barnesreview.org/John_birch.htm]

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Nelson developed the CIAA, which was his own version of the CIA, and which had intelligence oversight of the South American continent. He used what ever political and social networks that were available to achieve his goals, using the intelligence community to advantage. His lust for wealth propelled him to desire control over every aspect of the continent. He planned major highways spanning the Amazon jungle, building dams, lakes, ranches, incorporating drilling and mining and reaping what belonged to the Native population. With Nelson's endorsement, the governments of South America were manipulated and managed extensively by the CIA, to benefit not only Rockefeller, but the US desire for global wealth and control against "communism." [Thy Will Be Done] His ventures have impacted not only the native peoples but devastated the environment, which comes in sharp contrast to his brothers Laurence's and David's environmental ventures, which supposedly are to protect the environment.

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http://www.seekgod.ca/rockefeller.htm

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), incorporated on July 29, 1921, is the American counterpart to Britain's Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA). David has been a director from 1949-85, chairman of the board 1970-85, vice president 1950-70. The Rockefeller Group is a corporate member.

The Trilateral Commission was founded in 1973 by David Rockefeller with Zbigniew Brzezinski as executive director, after Brzezinski published Between Two Ages, which became the blueprint for the TC. David read and appreciated his ideas, which included,

"Though Stalinism may have been a needless tragedy for both the Russian people and communism as an ideal, there is the intellectually tantalizing possibility that for the world at large it was, as we shall see, a blessing in disguise."

"Marxism represents a further vital and creative stage in the maturing of man's universal vision. Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external man over the inner, passive man and a victory of reason over belief."

"Such a society would be dominated by an elite whose claim to political power would rest on allegedly superior scientific know-how. Unhindered by the restraints of traditional liberal values, this elite would not hesitate to achieve its political ends by the latest modern techniques for influencing public behavior and keeping society under close surveillance and control."

"The Soviet Union could have emerged as the standard-bearer of this century's most influential system of thought and as the social model for resolving the key dilemmas facing modern man." 33

1973 founding members of the Trilateral Commission also included Jimmy Carter, who chose Zbigniew Brzezinski as his National Security Adviser during his presidency. Brzezinski, also a member of the CFR, wrote in his Power & Principle: Memoirs of the National Security Advisor, 1977-1981, on page 49, "The new President's specific views on foreign affairs--going beyond his desire for a foreign policy governed by humane and moral concerns--had been formed during his time with the Trilateral Commission. Contrary to the myth, the Trilateral Commission is not a conspiracy designed to dominate the world but genuinely strives to engage Americans, Western Europeans and Japanese in a common endeavor to shape a more cooperative world..."

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Everyone, by now, knows that Rockefeller funded Robert Welch and started the John Birch Society. It was the religious right and the big oil players like Koch, et al, helping the Nelson Rockefeller South America CIAA.

We also know that LBJ blackmailed his way onto the JFK ticket.

And we know that HL Hunt put LBJ into that slot with Hoover's blackmailing help.

And LBJ with the corrupt JBS gang had JFK killed.

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http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/53/macarthur.html

In George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography, authors Webster Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin say that, in 1961, MacArthur warned President Kennedy of a plot to destroy him:

"MacArthur warned that the forces bent on destroying Kennedy were centered in the Wall Street...and its various tentacles in the intelligence community.... Kennedy met MacArthur in...April, 1961, after the Bay of Pigs. According to Kennedy aide Theodore Sorenson, MacArthur told Kennedy, ‘The chickens are coming home to roost, and you happen to have just moved into the chicken house.’"

If true, one wonders how MacArthur knew of the plot. Was he asked to play a part? The idea that MacArthur would “warn” JFK of such a plot seems out-of-character. Was it perhaps not a warning but a threat to stay in line?

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In 1951, Haroldson Lafayette Hunt had launched the “MacArthur for President” campaign with $150,000. He declared “We should do whatever our generals advise us to do.” Hunt, a Texas oil tycoon and reportedly America’s richest man, was certainly its most active, fascist propagandist. Various radio, TV and print campaigns in the 1950s cost him $2 million a year. He funded Joe McCarthy, Lyndon Johnson, the John Birch Society and the Cuban Revolutionary Council, a CIA/mafia outfit wanting to oust Castro. He set up the intelligence-gathering International Committee for the Defence of Christian Culture. He is also suspected of complicity in JFK’s assassination. With $4 billion in 1963, Hunt was likely the world’s richest man.

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As the plot by Dallas and California Birchers matured, the JBS plotters knew they would seed other stories to cast doubt and dispersion to a myriad of factions other than the John Birch Society's select JFK hit plotters.

Enter a Bircher that sees everything in reverse, including his last name, in order to toss out the news media chaff to confuse the trail from the John Birch Societies hit on JFK planners. In case one has not noticed, "revilo" is "oliver" spelled backwards and the name of his game is to reverse spin the JFK information into conspiratorial chaos. Oliver becomes the JBS's media specialist in "Mockingbird games" to seed every story possible on who did JFK.

But the Oliver story, "Marksmanship in Dallas" does get to some meat that death threats were phoned in on JBS members, as lots of people knew they had JFK killed in Dallas. This brought on the FBI keeping HL Hunt in safe keeping. And, more bullet holes appeared in the JBS office in Phonenix after the assassination and more threats against Bircher General Walker appeared and LHO was not even able to be doing those.

The article below speaks to others that noticed the Birchers leading Mockingbird was quite busy spreading most of what would become faked up JFK assassination theories, with the intention of promoting so much Chaos as to keep the hounds away from the lead plotters of the JFK assassination being the Birchers.

The whole story becomes quite clear when one notices that LHO actually penetrated the Birchers and well knew the top JBS plotters on the JFK hit, which he tried to stop with FBI tips. LHO knew their plot so well as to tell he was their Patsy, and the reverse spin master "Revilo" is trying to paint LHO, the CIA agent, as a Communist "lone nut". And also making sure that LBJ is put on notice that he'll be the first to fall, if the hounds come too close to the JBS.

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http://rakemucker.com/extremism/JBS%20and%20JFK%20theories.htm

Is the John Birch Society Responsible for Spreading Most of the JFK Assassination Conspiracy Theories?

Just one month after President Kennedy was assassinated, one of the founders of the John Birch Society came out with an article entitled, “Marksmanship in Dallas". Revilo Pendleton Oliver, the man whom JBS figurehead Robert Welch described as, “quite possibly the world’s greatest living scholar,” outlines some of the great conspiracy theories that would dominate the JFK assassination debate over the next forty years.

Revilo’s article is extremely disturbing and demonstrates how much the far-right hated JFK and how much contempt they had for liberals, blacks and Jews at the time. Revilo asserts that Oswald was a communist and had help communists everywhere, including with the U.S. government. This article would unleash a flood of far-right literature designed to obfuscate the facts of the assassination.

It’s no wonder that the Kennedy assassination has become associated with crackpots and nutcases as most of the stories and misleading information were spread by right-wing whack-jobs like the Birchers. Their message always seems to be, don’t trust the government or the political left ,while implicating the usual suspects; it’s all part of a communist plot, or maybe LBJ was involved with help from the CIA, possibly the Illuminati, and you can bet that the one-worlders in the Council of Foreign Relations were behind it. In all the noise, an American President’s murder becomes a joke and any possible conspirators walk cleanly away.

A careful reading of the record reveals that the major conspiracy authors have a lot in common with the John Birch Society perspective; don’t trust the government, the government’s out to get you, and the government will lie to you if they can get away with it. In 1969 this was Jim Garrison’s case in a nutshell. Few are aware that Garrison, the New Orleans District Attorney who brought the only case involving the assassination to trial, was also an avowed supporter of right wing extremist Ayn Rand.

Many of the JFK conspiracy propagators share something else; connections with extremist organizations and groups. Mark Lane, author of “Rush to Judgement,” ended up working for the ultra-racist Liberty Lobby and defended people like James Earl Ray and holocaust denier Willis Carto. Revilo P. Oliver went on to develop the National Alliance with William Pierce, and then went to work for the Institute for Historical Review in trying to discredit the Holocaust. Victor Marchetti and Fletcher Prouty were others who used the Orange County-based Holocaust denial network to spread their stories.

Oliver Stone’s 1991 movie, JFK, seems to have brought the John Birch Society story to the big screen. While clearing Lee Harvey Oswald, the Yale-trained filmmaker managed to blame the CIA, Naval Intelligence, the Secret Service, the FBI, and Lyndon Johnson! It is odd that a perceived liberal like Stone would saddle up to the same positions as extremists on the far right. It demonstrates, however, how much influence the John Birch Society has had on the death of a Democratic president.

This article was originally published on Saturday, December 22, 2007

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This appears to be a link to a PDF of Harry Dean's book. Not sure if it works.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4546660/New_JFK_murder_theory

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Just in case anyone still doubts that the JBS was involved in the cover up of the JFK assassination at the highest of levels, lets take a look at what JBS's Congressman Larry McDonald of Georgia really knew. Larry McDonald had the CIA's tapes with Hoover and the rest of the crooks doing the JFK cover up.

Plus, corrupt Johnson was pulling to put Nelson Rockefeller in as next president because Nelson Rockefeller would keep the JFK hit secret for LBJ, and Rockefeller esseantially started the JBS using Robert Welch. CIAA Nelson Rockefeller was Wall Street's "Golden Boy" and JFK did not fit their mold.

Larry McDonald rode into politics via the JBS corruption on being involved in the JFK assassination. Larry McDonald became Robert Welch's successor in the JBS, and he has some extremely large skeletons in his closet. McDonald is from the same Georgia ilk that Joseph Milteer comes from, who also knew all about the JFK hit being tied to the JBS's extreme right fascists.

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http://www.jbs.org/rep-larry-mcdonald

Rep. Larry McDonald

Larry McDonald was born in Atlanta, Georgia, on April 1, 1935 to Harold McDonald, Sr. and Callie Grace Patton, who was a cousin of U.S. Army General George S. Patton. Following the tradition of his father and grandfather, Larry became a urologist, graduating from Emory University School of Medicine. Upon graduation from Emory University, Larry McDonald joined the U.S. Navy, serving in active duty for four years as a Navy physician and flight surgeon. After completing his active duty tour, he continued in the Naval Reserve, advancing to the rank of Captain.

He continued his medical studies as a resident surgeon at the University of Michigan Hospital, in Ann Arbor, Michigan. It was during this time, in 1968 that he made his first run for political office, running for a local committeeman position in the Democratic Party primary. He openly campaigned as a member of The John Birch Society and as a true or historic Democrat, harkening back to the party roots of Jefferson, Jackson, and Grover Cleveland. Adhering to the Constitution, he rejected the New Deal, big government approach of Franklin Roosevelt and subsequent Democrats.

Although he lost the primary election to the incumbent, an establishment Democrat, he nonetheless gained valuable insight into politics that would prove helpful in his future run for Congress in 1972, at the age of 37. He was elevated to the National Council of The John Birch Society as its youngest member.

In 1974, he was elected to Congress and represented Georgias Seventh District. As a member of the House of Representatives, he not only made a name for himself as a crusader against Communism and a strong advocate of National Security, but he was also the most conservative member of Congress, earning a 100 percent approval from the Review of the News Conservative Index which was the precursor the Freedom Index published by The New American magazine.

His impeccable conservative credentials followed from his firm adherence to the U.S. Constitution. Before voting on an issue, he always asked himself the following three questions: (1) is it constitutional, (2) do we need it, and (3) can we afford it? This filtration process resulting in many No votes, much like that of his good friend and esteemed colleague Rep. Ron Paul of Texas. Larry also worked closely with Rep. John M. Ashbrook of Ohio in the establishment of Western Goals Foundation, the stated mission of which was to strengthen the political, economic and social structure of Western Civilization so as to make any merger with totalitarians impossible.

On March 14, 1983, Larry succeeded Robert Welch as Chairman of The John Birch Society. Later that year, in an attempt to expand the Western Goals Foundation overseas, he boarded Korean Air Lines flight 007, from New York City to Seoul, South Korea. On September 1, 1983 while en route to Seoul, following a refueling stop in Alaska, KAL 007 deviated off course into Soviet airspace where it was shot down by a Soviet MIG fighter jet over Sakhalin Island. This resulted in the loss of KAL 007s crew and its passengers, 269 people, including Rep. McDonald. Missing in Action, Larry McDonald was the only U.S. Congressman lost to the communists during the Cold War. A memorial highway has been named in his honor in Georgia.

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From Defrauding America, Rodney Stich, 3rd edition 1998 p. 638-639]:

The Role of deep-cover CIA officer, Trenton Parker, has been described in earlier pages, and his function in the CIA's counter-intelligence unit, Pegasus. Parker had stated to me earlier that a CIA faction was responsible for the murder of JFK … During an August 21, 1993, conversation, in response to my questions, Parker said that his Pegasus group had tape recordings of plans to assassinate Kennedy. I asked him, "What group were these tapes identifying?" Parker replied: "Rockefeller, Allen Dulles, JOHNSON of Texas, GEORGE BUSH, and J. Edgar Hoover." I asked, "What was the nature of the conversation on these tapes?"

I don't have the tapes now, because all the tape recordings were turned over to [Congressman] Larry McDonald. But I listened to the tape recordings and there were conversations between Rockefeller, [J. Edgar] Hoover, where [Nelson] Rockefeller asks, "Are we going to have any problems?" And he said, "No, we aren't going to have any problems. I checked with Dulles. If they do their job we'll do our job." There are a whole bunch of tapes, because Hoover didn't realize that his phone has been tapped. Defrauding America, Rodney Stich, p. 638-639]:

Nelson Rockefeller tells JFK to use TACTICAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS

against North Vietnam in 1961!

[James Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable, pp. 321-322]

John Kennedy was turning. The key to understanding Kennedy's presidency, his assassination, and our survival as a species through the Cuban Missile Crisis is that Kennedy was turning towards peace. The signs of his turning are the seeds of his assassination.

Marcus Ruskin worked in the Kennedy Administration as an assistant to National Security Advisor McGeorge Bundy. Not long after the Bay of Pigs, Raskin witnessed an incident in the Oval Office that tipped him off to Kennedy's deep aversion to the use of nuclear weapons.

During the president's meeting with a delegation of governors, New York governor Nelson Rockefeller, expressing his irritation at the guerilla tactics of the Viet Cong, said "Why don't we use tactical nuclear weapons against them?"

Raskin, watching Kennedy closely, was in a position to see what happened next. The president's hand began to shake uncontrollably.

JFK said simply, "You know we're not going to do that."

But it was the sudden shaking hand that alerted Raskin to Kennedy's profound uneasiness with nuclear weapons, a mark of conscience that would later turn into a commitment to disarmament"

[James Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable, pp. 321-322]

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The highly incriminating tapes from CIA Pegasus get delivered to Larry McDonald and then mysteriously Larry McDonald is the only person of a group riding KAL 007 when it gets shot down. What happens to these CIA tapes that were passed along to him?

Was that motive enough for Larry McDonald to be bumped off with another CIA plot with KAL 007?

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"Marksmanship in Dallas" is basically a John Birch Society postulation to spread the blame to anything and everything but the JBS membership that was actually involved in the JFK planning, shooting, and cover up.

This article was published in the "American Opinion", February 1964, and this was the mouthpiece for the John Birch Society. Oliver was one of the board members of the JBS.

Oliver tries the first thing to frame up Oswald as a Communist, plays up Communist fear mongering and finger pointing. Then tries to paint General Walker as the good guy when General Walker was one of the principle JBS plotters to have JFK killed, then Walker used his German news connections to make it appear LHO took a shot at Walker.

The Oliver missive does toss out that there were warnings that JFK would be killed before Thanks Giving Day and also that Taylor Caldwell, a JFK friend, warned him also.

Oliver earned himself a seat at the Warren Commission to testify about his conspiracy missive to help the JBS avoid its manifest destiny. The JBS was the king of JFK hate in Dallas, and so declaired very publically.

We also find that General Walker and other Birchers got more threats after Oswald was locked up or dead, and even the JBS offices in Phoenix got bullet holes. Even major Birch suppporter HL Hunt was put in protective custody by the FBI and moved to a different city to keep him from being shot. It appears many people knew the Birchers were the central plotters in having JFK killed, and LHO knew this same factor.

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Careful observers were aware of the feeling of crisis in conspiratorial circles before the assassination. In June, 1963, an experience American military man made a careful analysis of the situation at that time, and in his highly confidential report concluded, on the basis of indications in Communist and crypto-Communist sources, that the Conspiracy's schedule called for a major incident to create national shock before Thanksgiving. Taylor Caldwell, who combines feminine sensitivity with artistic perception, sensed in the tone of Communist and "Liberal" publications a direction that made the assassination of Kennedy "very probable" — and she said so in an explicit warning published on October 31 and written about a week earlier. Other observers, who saw that Communist plans called for some sensational act of violence in the United States naturally considered the assassination of Kennedy (possibly in a crash of his airplane so arranged as to show unmistakable sabotage) as one of the expedients that the Conspiracy might adopt, although they did not, so far as I know, regard it as the most likely at the present juncture.

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It seems that preparations had been made for rioting and murder throughout the country. Americans known to be opponents of the Conspiracy, including General Walker, prominent members of the John Birch Society, and leaders of other conservative organizations, began to receive threats of death by telephone from creatures who somehow knew that Kennedy was dead before he reached the hospital. In many communities, mobs composed of the dregs of humanity and openly proposing to burn the homes and murder the families of known conservatives, began to form in the evening, as though in obedience to orders that had not been countermanded to all sectors. I do not suggest that the local vermin were entrusted with a foreknowledge of precisely what was to happen in Dallas, but it seems very likely that they had been prepared to respond to a signal and told what to do when the signal came.

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