Seth Kantor and Jack Ruby

[Ray Mitcham]

Here you go, Joe.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvJRkoeGmEc

[Joe Bauer]

That's the one.

Thank you so much Ray.

The spirit of brotherhood and sisterhood on this forum is inspiring.

Edited October 25, 2018 by Joe Bauer

[Ron Bulman]

21 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

The Municipal Building opened in 1914.  It housed the Dallas City Hall, and in 1963, the Dallas Police Department.

"In the basement of this structure on November 24, 1963, Jack Ruby fatally shot Lee Harvey Oswald, alleged assassin of President John F. Kennedy".  Even the city of Dallas says "alleged"?

https://dallascityhall.com/government/citysecretary/archives/Pages/Archives_buildings.aspx 

I found substantiation of my memory in of all places, given the thread title, Seth Kantor's "The Ruby Cover - Up".

https://www.amazon.com/Ruby-Cover-Up-S-Kantor/dp/0821739204/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1538617063&sr=8-2&keywords=the+ruby+coverup&dpID=511E5tHKukL&preST=_SX258_BO1,204,203,200_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Kantor discussed the mater with 1963 DPD Police Chief Jesse Curry in 1976 in Curry's living room. They were acquainted well before 1963. pgs. 142-143. 

"I asked Curry if the large double door entrance to the station, near the ramp, was locked"  " No, he said.... I asked where the double doored street level entrance would have led Ruby, there were several uncharacteristic hesitations in Curry's answer for the only time in our two hour;  tape-recorded session."

…"Now there was one stairway from the street level of City Hall that went down to the basement there [Curry pauses to draw  sketch of  the stairway entering a vestibule area of the police station basement].     

[Roy Wieselquist]

On 9/23/2018 at 6:52 PM, Joe Bauer said:

Still, Ruby finds a perfect hiding place and up close lunging shooting position right behind his long time DP friend William Harrison?

Coincidence?

As Seth Kantor said, it was harder for him ( Kantor ) as a press person to be allowed into that basement that morning than it was for non-credentialed Jack Ruby.

And when big Blackie Harrison went down to get his cigars from a vending machine located closer to the Commerce street back entrance to the Police department basement and before Ruby arrived on the scene, it wouldn't be illogical to consider Ruby perhaps getting in that way with someone opening the right doors there. 

Joe Bauer above is how I get the "Occam's Razor" (simple) explanation for Ruby getting in the basement at the right place.  He definitely did not get in by the Main Street ramp, as the WARren COmmissioN says.  And it's so doubtful as to be impossible what Curry conjectured, that he got in by the big double doors near the ramp  -- BECAUSE there are other doors to go through that must have been guarded, AND stairs to go down.

Ruby had less than four minutes to get in place.  His Western Union money order was stamped 11:17, and he shot Ozzie at 11:21.  Witnesses saw Jack Ruby turn left on Main when he left the WU office, heading toward the Main Street ramp of the DPD.  No one saw him after that.  All he had to do was take another quick left and go down the alley between WU and DPD, heading toward Commerce.

And somewhere along in there, there must be a quick flight of stairs down to a lower level basement door that is security-locked from the outside; someone INSIDE must open it to let someone in from the outside.  Is that where Blackie's cigar machine is?  I can draw/see a picture of it clear as day, but I'm too technostupid to draw a diagram of it on this fancy compooter-mochine.

Ruby had to be through that security-door by 11:20 in order to get in place behind Harrison, King, Arnett, and Croy (at least 30 seconds).  And then there was at least a 30-second walk down the aisle, Jim Leavelle and what's-his-name escorting Smart Alek Oswaldskovitch to his doom.

By the way, there is a hilarious altering of the famous Ruby-shooting-Oswald photo on the Church of the Subgenius website.  It has Leavelle playing a double keyboard and Ruby playing a left-handed Stratocaster at that fatal moment.  Which is more believable than the War Con interpretation of the moment.

Edited October 25, 2018 by Roy Wieselquist

[Roy Wieselquist]

Image result for oswald band

Have y'all seen this? Three-man band: Leavelle on keyboards, Ozzie on lead vocals, Ruby on axe.

Edited October 25, 2018 by Roy Wieselquist