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I'd like to see the complete report Bill O'Riley did on that story. That's O'Riley isn't it?

What does he have to say about this today?

I think that what Bill Simpich has to say about DeMorn is very important, but it doesn't seem like others want to discuss it.

OpEdNews - Article: THE JFK CASE: The Twelve Who Built The Oswald Legend (Part 6: White Russians Keep An Eye On Oswald In Dallas)

Bill Simpich's NID 2010 presentation now online - The Education Forum

DeMohrenschildt's CIA contact was J. Walton Moore, the head of the CIA's Dallas Domestic Contacts Division, responsible for interviewing Americans who return home from travel abroad.

We now know more about JWM, who Bill O'Riley tried to interview in the late 70s, and maybe he did.

JWM was OSS China, and his records (at Mary Ferrell) indicate he went over there with another OSS agent, Charles Ford, who may be the Charles Ford who was reassigned from the CIA training division to be the liaison between the CIA's JMWAVE station and RFK - and the Mafia - ie. Rosselli, Giancana. While David Kaiser has said that he thought Charles Ford was an alias, it was his real name and he used an Italian alias while doing his liaison work for the CIA, the only operational task he was assigned outside of his regular job in the training department. Ford was from Atlantic CIty, NJ and attended Princeton.

DeMohrenschildt's Haitian connection is important too, since that 's where he was when JFK was killed, and his association with US Army Col. Sam Kail seems to be the significant link in this regards, as Kail was also the Army attache at the US Embassy in Havana when Castro took over, and was pals with David Phillips and others who were in Havana at that time.

Besides J.W. Moore and Col. Kail, the third person in DeMohrenschildt's life who appears to be connected to what happened at Dealey Plaza is Admiral Chester Brouton, the Collins Radio executive whose swimming pool and barbeque seemed to be where DeMohren liked to spend a lot of his time. DeMorn introduced both Marina and Lee Oswald to Brouton and tried to get Oswald a job at Collins - after all he did work in a radio factory in Minsk.

I think its a good idea to take a closer look at George DeMohrenschildt, his ex-wives, their Philadelphia connections, and how DeMohrenschildt and his friends set up Oswald to be the Patsy.

An important point to understand when dealing with people like this is that they were acting as part of an intelligence network, and those other individuals, like DeMohrn and Oswald himself, were acting on a need to know basis - NTK - and therefore didn't know what the other aspects of the plot - and conspiracy were - and did not organize it themselves. But putting these pieces together, and seeing how these people worked together, show the extent of the network, and can lead to those who were pulling the strings.

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Collings Radio, was run by Art Collins, a Ham Op, that would know Ham Op Curtis LeMay. Collins Radio build all kinds of aircraft radios used in bombers and mil. bases.

Art Collings and Curtis LeMay would also know Ham Op Barry Goldwater, who jumped ship with the JBS.

http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/2010/01/collins-radio-connections.html

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It will become very clear that George de Mohrenschildt was murdered and he talked too much, and he'd be very likely to expose the real deals on JFK to those asking official questions. That would break open the whole Foreign Intelligence Network of Prince Bernhard working Cuba and Infiltrating the US via Houston, Dallas, New Orleans.

He had to be killed for the very same reasons that LHO had to be killed.

Schlumberger was like United Fruid was for the CIA in the Gulf region, except Schlumberger, a Netherlands Corportation, was the like mechanism for PERMINDEX.

de Mohrenschildt knew De Menil and the story of PERMINDEX, as De Menil was on the board of PERMINDEX, which was the Foreign Intelligence network for the old money Royalists of Europe, Bilderberg Group.

De Menil was also the President of Schlumberger Oil Services, which was associated with ousting Batista. They went against the CIA for putting in Batista. So, PERMINDEX Operatives were right in the middle of the Cuba meddling from the beginnings of Batista's ousting.

De Menil lived in Houston and was in the Oil Services business, the same work that de Morhrenschildt was trained. de Mohrenschildt saw these Foreign Intelligence interests with 8F cooperation were setting up LHO to take the fall on JFK, and he ran to Haiti to avoid any associations in the building set-up.

Except, they found him and wanted to ask real questions that would blow wide open the real Crook's cover stories and reveal the total plans to kill JFK. HL Hunt, Hoover, LBJ, De Menil, Shaw, Reagan, Ford---all would be exposed. Even Bush-41 and Zapata Oil from Houston would be in the know.

It was a time when European Foreign Intelligence circles left over from the OSS tapped into controlling the US Foreign Policy using the 8F gang, and persons like Rockefeller via the John Birch Society to facilitate their massive efforts to counter Communism.

In the wake of the JFK assassination the US was left with Fascist Control over America via huge Corporate Domination of the American Political system driven by these same European Royals that formed PERMINDEX.

When people say Follow the Money and the Operation was large an powerful, these are the associations as to why and how.

I do think that learning about the JFK hit is perhaps best told via LHO's Best White Russian pal in the US, who also knew the bigger story and kept quiet to stay alive. But, de Mohrenschildt left the world some hints, as he leaked to trusted people the story.

He was being threatened to keep quiet. But, they had no confidence he'd keep quiet. He did not commit suicide.

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What about DeM and the Catherwood FOundation?

There seems to be some connections between DeMohrenschildt and Philly, especially his early wives - Phyllis Washington, and

Dr. De De Sharples, whose father owned an oil company. It was Sharples who got Jackie Kennedy to support their charity,

and she later became a trustee of Temple University, where a professor was associated with Havana University and Kennan - the Man

on the Motorcycle in MC went to school. There's also the association between the Catherwood Fund and the Cuban Aid Relief - a group of

professionals - especially Cuban exile editors and publishers, and Catholic Welfare, which ran a medical clinics for Cuban exiles in Miami,

New Orleans and Dallas, and included Father McChann, the guy who knew John Martino and Syliva Odio and catered to the spiritual

needs of the Cuban exiles in Dallas.

I was unaware the Philly roots of Phyllis Washington, and never heard of Herbert Itkin and Thomas Pierce Schreyer until I read Bill Simpicjh's article

OpEdNews - Article: THE JFK CASE: The Twelve Who Built The Oswald Legend (Part 6: White Russians Keep An Eye On Oswald In Dallas)

Here's my account of the Catherwood Fund, JFKcountercoup: Catherwood Fund which had an office on the Main Line not far from the farm of Arthur Young and Ruth Forbes Paine Young, Michael Paine's mother. It is also close to Swarthmore and Haverford Colleges where Michael Paine and Priscilla Johnson McMillan went to school (and Tink Thompson taught Philosophy). I think Cord Meyers' World Federalists is one common link between Michael's mom, PJM and Oswald.

The key connection between DeMohrenschildt and the CIA's Catherwood Fund that I can see is the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia, which was financed by the CIA through the Catherwood Fund. According to Simpich's article there were two Russian Orthodox Church parishes in the Dallas area, as he writes:

.....De Mohrenschildt turned to George Bouhe for guidance in how to get things done. Bouhe was an old-school kind of guy -- born in in Leningrad when it was still St. Petersburg and a bit of an aristocrat himself. Bouhe was an accountant for one of the local oil barons and served as a patriarch in the community. Bouhe testified that Paul Raigorodsky was the 'godfather' of the group, while he himself did the organization work.

Bouhe formed the St. Nicholas Russian Orthodox Parish, one of the two Russian Orthodox parishes in the Dallas-Fort Worth area in 1963. Also known as the "Bouhe group," they met in individual homes with a priest from Houston visiting every five or six weeks and had services in Church Slavonic, an old Slavic language that is different from modern Russian language. De Mohrenschildt was part of St. Nicholas' choir when married to his Philadelphia wife. The other church, St. Seraphim's, was located at 4203 Newton Street in Dallas, where Igor Voshinin attended and services were in English. Voshinin didn't like Bouhe because he was very publicly in everyone's business, saying things like "Well, you know, I forget things - so I keep a file on everybody."

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In the months leading up to George de Mohrenschildt leaving the United States for Holland to tell of his involvment in the Kennedy assassination to NOS Television with Dutch journalist Willem Oltmans, he openly tells Oltmans of his fear for his life. In Oltmans personal notes he says de Mohrenschildt tells of strange occurrencies in Dallas that caused de Mohrenschildt to fear for his life. On several occasions de Mohrenschildts Ford Pinto was parked in the faculty parking lot at Bishop College in Dallas and when he would return to leave for his apartement, the car would be gone. de Mohrenshildt says he would look around the campus and there he would find his car moved to another parking spot. This happened maybe 10 times, de Mohrenshildt tells Oltmans. Oltmans says in his personal notes that he tells George that possible he is mistaken and forgets where he parked his car, until one Friday evening Oltmans tells that he had gone with de Mohrenschildt in the Ford Pinto to the Bishop College Libray where it was very private and de Mohrenschildt felt comfortable talking in a private area of the library concerning the Kennedy assassination. As the evening grew to an end Oltmans says the two men leave and exit the library only to find de Mohrenschildts car gone. As they look around the campus parking areas sure enough they find the Ford Pinto parked in another location from where they had parked the car upon entering the library. This time Oltmans says they find laying in the front seat of the car, a note that says " We know where you are at and we know how to find and get you" Oltmans says the note was not there when the two men left the car to enter the library. This came from the Willem Oltmans archives in Den Haag the Netherlands ..

Let me guess there is substatiation of Oltmans' claims? The story soesn't even make sense. why move his car around?

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De Mohrenschildt was a White Russian. Oswald was allegedly a Communist. White Russians and Communists were arch-enemies; In the Soviet Union, there Reds and Whites. They were fighting for totally opposite reasons. White Russians were Conservative Tsarists; The Reds were Conservative Anti-Tsarists. De Mohrenschildt's father was jailed twice by the Communist regime for his anti-Red criticism; the second time hew as jailed he was sent to Siberia. Only a LN would believe that it is not suspicious that a person whose father was jailed and sent to Siberia for no good reason would become good friends with a Communist.

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In the months leading up to George de Mohrenschildt leaving the United States for Holland to tell of his involvment in the Kennedy assassination to NOS Television with Dutch journalist Willem Oltmans, he openly tells Oltmans of his fear for his life. In Oltmans personal notes he says de Mohrenschildt tells of strange occurrencies in Dallas that caused de Mohrenschildt to fear for his life. On several occasions de Mohrenschildts Ford Pinto was parked in the faculty parking lot at Bishop College in Dallas and when he would return to leave for his apartement, the car would be gone. de Mohrenshildt says he would look around the campus and there he would find his car moved to another parking spot. This happened maybe 10 times, de Mohrenshildt tells Oltmans. Oltmans says in his personal notes that he tells George that possible he is mistaken and forgets where he parked his car, until one Friday evening Oltmans tells that he had gone with de Mohrenschildt in the Ford Pinto to the Bishop College Libray where it was very private and de Mohrenschildt felt comfortable talking in a private area of the library concerning the Kennedy assassination. As the evening grew to an end Oltmans says the two men leave and exit the library only to find de Mohrenschildts car gone. As they look around the campus parking areas sure enough they find the Ford Pinto parked in another location from where they had parked the car upon entering the library. This time Oltmans says they find laying in the front seat of the car, a note that says " We know where you are at and we know how to find and get you" Oltmans says the note was not there when the two men left the car to enter the library. This came from the Willem Oltmans archives in Den Haag the Netherlands ..

Let me guess there is substatiation of Oltmans' claims? The story soesn't even make sense. why move his car around?

Hello Len ,,,

I have no ideal why they would move his car around other than to screw with his head as they accomplished . I do know I personally read the hand written notes that Oltmans wrote down the night that it occurred .In his personal notes Oltmans tells just what happened his notes were very indepth and recorded by the hour .After 12 days of intense study of his personal notes I found Mr. Oltmans to have been a very honest and straight forward investigator.He tells in his notes he knew he was on the right track with de Mohrenschildt and he worked him slowly over a period of 10 years and finally de Mohrenschildt trusts him enough where he begins to tell the real story of his involvement.In his notes Oltmans says de Mohrenschildt wanted immunitee if he told all and revealed names.de Mohrenschildt tells Oltmans he is scared he will go to prison .

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