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The easiest route for the connections of LHO on the JFK assassination is perhaps via his best friend in the US, a White Russian named George de Mohrenschilt. White Russian associations track back to the Gehlen Organization operating in Europe against the Russians and also the Boris Pash operations connected with nuclear efforts in the US and abroad.

Be sure to connect John (Jean) DeMenil with PERMINDEX and Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands. This was the European Old Money Intelligence gang working inside the US.

Keep in mind that de Menil's Schlumberger worked South Africa, where PERMENDEX had to run after General DeGalle got after them for targeting him for assassination over the Iseael Nuclear abondonment and Algeria. Schlumberger also operated from Paris, so moving money and weapons was easy into Paris.

Schlumberger also operated from Congo and Romania.

Schlumberger also operated in California, principally Bakersfield. This appears to connect to how Clay Shaw moved his PERMINDEX records to California and Reagan resisted extradition of records and witnesses.

LHO's best pal George de Mohrenschilt was in the same business of well logging as Schlumberger and close with John DeMenil.

PERMINDEX was operating in the US with Clay Shaw, Ferenc Nagy in Dallas, John (Jean) De Menil in Houston with lots of 8F ties, and even Bloomfield in Montreal and the drug dealings going back to Liverpool. George Mantello (aka Mandel) would move to New Orleans as Europe got too hot for him.

California Gov. Reagan and Senator Rousselot got into the PERMINDEX/Schlumberger's games to cover up the JFK assassination.

8F Houston has the Bush and Zapata associations.

The biggest problem was PERMINDEX was an Foreign Intelligence Group of the European Old Money Royals and they were running cross purpose to the US CIA directions and JFK's, and highly meddling against JFK. JFK had his cross hairs on them, and LBJ, Hoover, and the bigger lot conspiring with the Foreign Intelligence games were going down hard.

The Houston 8F gang was too close to the PERMINDEX designs and both intent on screwing JFK.

8F, HL Hunt, and PERMINDEX were essentially cooperation with foreign groups for an act of Treason in killing JFK.

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It is also easy to see the cover up plan of these Foreign Agents, as it was expressed by Lord Bertrand Russell, who basically started the Manhattan Project.

Author Donald Gibson exposes the Royalists cover up plans on their part of the JFK assassination by continual blame it on the CIA or the US Govt. Do that will a thousand books, on the Internet, and mask the real story with that noise.

In the Donald Gibson Interview for the URL below you find out more of the truth on the Foreign Intelligence methods to cover up who was behind the JFK hit:

http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2000/eirv27n18-20000505/eirv27n18-20000505.pdf

JFK was a Rosevelt oriented politician and like FDR, JFK knew the problems the Royalists were causing in trying to control the US. The Royalist took control over America with their Prince Bernhard's methods that were set up by UK's Victor Rothschild. They went into the rich areas of Texas wealth surrounding the 8F group there that involved persons like HL Hunt and other extremist capitalists that sought fascist control over America.

The Rockefellers were already supporters of the Royalist's European agenda against the US, and Rockefeller set up Robert Welch and the John Birch Society to push around US Foreign Policy for the Foreign Interest Royalists. Dallas' HL Hunt was a raging JBS member along with General Walker. These two played a ring leadership role on Dallas to have JFK killed.

They were well associated with the Foreign Interest issues to affect US Foreign Policy with Cuba. They used Rockefellers United Fruit connections, and they had the larger Foreign Intelligence and Espionage connections with Prince Bernhard's PERMINDEX. This system invaded the US via Clay Shaw in New Orleans, Ferenc Nagy in Dallas, John DeMenil in Houston and even Louis Bloomfield in Montreal, Cananda and his connections with FBI Div 5, and Defense Industry's DISC. This Foreign Interest Connections joined up with the corrupt Texans that JFK was beginning to tear down. LBJ, Hoover, and lots more were in big troubles as JFK spotted their secret networks trying to fight against his Peace Plans.

JFK visited Dublin, Ireland and even Berlin Germany and was snubbing these European Royalists, and the only ones that didn't like JFK were these Catholic hating Royalists involved with the UK's rule and church. For these Foreign Intelligence types, JFK was a Communist, because he wanted to make Peace with Russia and Cuba and JFK had spotted how this group was meddling in his Peace Making. Even LHO turned against this Royalist Foreign Intelligence system mergers into the US, and LHO was on the same side as JFK in resisting the Fascists control over America.

In order for these Foreign Intelligence Royalists to win their take over the US from within, they had to kill JFK and JFK supporter LHO.

What everyone sees in most of the JFK reseach is all too many authors working essentially for the Royalist's plans that are told by Lord Bertrand Russell's cover up games. Many of the cracks in the Foreign Royalists take over game of the US stem from LHO's best friend George de Mohrenschildt, GD, who was a White Russian Spy for the German's Gehlen Organization. LHO in his mission to Russia came to live in the Minsk area, which was how LHO became so good at the White Russian accents and GD was impressed by his articulate White Russian accent.

George deMohrenschildt was very close with John DeMenil who ran Netherland's Corporation Schlumberger oil services with connections around the world and served the same purposes for PERMINDEX as Rockefellers United Fruit connections served for the CIA. John DeMenil was a Board Member for PERMINDEX and worked many of the old OSS methods in Europe against the NAZIs, this associating him with many more of the PERMINDEX main members in Europe, Mantello, Rosenberg, etc. You can see some of those old associations from this URL

http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2000/eirv27n18-20000505/eirv27n18-20000505.pdf

We know GD fled the US to Haiti for fears of being drawn up in the needs of this corrupted PERMINDEX group running in Houston and Dallas to set up LHO as the sole assassin for JFK. One of the problems was GD knew too much and the PERMINDEX crooks knew that he knew, both about why they sent LHO to Russia and that they intended to use LHO in a plot to kill JFK.

They harrassed GD with moving his car around and leaving threatning notes. They eventually killed GD as he was being drawn into testimony to a commissions on the JFK assassination. GD's information would have blown a bigger hole in the real Foreign Intelligence Plot to kill JFK than Dorothy Kilgallen's information that was leaked from Jack Ruby. All these murders stem from this Foreign Intelligence connection taking power over the US, and these long list of murders from MLK to RFK are the same sinister group trying to control the US using methods just like the CIA's.

When anyone makes this last association in the JFK assassination and learns about the extensive involvement of PERMINDEX in the US and its eventually absorption into the Rockefeller World Trade Center, one then knows why the WTC became a high profile target of other Foreign Interests resisting the Royalists/PERMINDEX type games for world power and domination.

Time to let the cat out of the bag for the bad guys for the JFK assassination, and the bad guys were the Fascist Designing Royalists of Europe centered around the Prince Bernhard games for these Royalists and set up by Victor Rothschild of the UK.

Then you get to see all the players designing to kill Catholic JFK for being a Peace Maker and returning Freedom to America. Surely, by the 50th anniversary of the JFK assassination, this fuller story can become public common knowledge and all Americans can see the real JFK and those that hated him.

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Some more details should fall into place as LBJ drops a few hints on JFK before he died.

He Said:

In 1973 LBJ was at it again when he said in reference to the JFK murder "we were running a damn Murder Inc. in the Carribean".

He had a heart attack and died shortly thereafter.

LBJ wanted this portion of an Interview suppressed on the grounds of National Security, as it hit way too close to the crooks that were helping he and the 8F gang in Texas. It could well put his and his Texas buddies necks in the hangman's noose. But, perhaps the vanity of LBJ wanted the world to know he knew what was used to knock off JFK, and that he wasn't the big dog, but he sure held the leash for the dogs that killed JFK.

Of Course, for those that know the insider information, we know that Schlumberger was incorperated in the Carribean's Netherland Antilles, and this was the heart of the operations used by Prince Bernhard of the Netherland and their intelligence / Espionage operations in this area of island colonization in Europe.

Schlumberger Oil Services was run by John DeMenil, a PERMINDEX Board member located in Houston, Tx.

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There are other hints from LHO and his alias of Alex Heidel, who was a famous author on Babylon and religion history. LHO was a highly read person, who unfortunately took up with the PERMINDEX elements in Texas to affect Russian and US peace relationships. Everyone thinks LHO worked for the US CIA Intelligence, but LHO worked for the European Royals version of the Intelligence and Espionage involving PERMINDEX.

For many around LHO it was difficult to understand the thin line of the differences between the official CIA and those of the Foreign Inteligence PERMINDEX operations that functioned like the CIA inside the US. The US CIA was forbidden to do operations inside the US, but the PERMINDEX Foreign Intelligence operated with impugnity in the US and was literally a Foreigne Intelligence / Espionage Murder Incorperated.

So, in New Orleans when an effort was set up to target Castro with a Cancer Virus enabled with radiation, it was difficult to tell the differences down in the ranks of secretive operations. Persons like Judyth Vary Baker may have lost a few skirmishes from those intent on doing the blame the CIA tactics of the UK's Lord Bertrand Russell, but she'll win the war in telling that LHO was a defender of JFK and they actually had a common fascist enemy.

The real story and all the connections to the Foreign Intelligence Operations associated with PERMINDEX inside the United States not only targeted JFK, but lots of others like RFK and MLK. And 100 others deemed to be causing too many leaks, like George de Mohrenschildt, Dorothy Kilgallen, and the list runs on and on.

LBJ was in on these operations and speaks to this with the Walter Conkite Interview. LBJ was fully aware that the Houston and Dallas Foreign Intelligence Operations were going to take out JFK and run the all to willing LBJ into the White House as their newest Puppet on a String.

These Foreign Intelligence Operations inside the US gathered partners on the JCS that wanted a huge Nuclear Shoot out with the Russians, persons like Curtis LeMay and Leyman Lemnitzer. They also gathered supporters in the nuclear bomb business in Oak Ridge, who had extensive connections with this same crowd. They were recrited to help with the kill Castro with Cancer games of PERMINDEX operations run from New Orleans.

While LHO came out against what they were doing and didn't survive to tell the real story, there are some that did and one such persons is Judyth Baker. Likewise, LHO's best White Russian friend was high connected in the Domestic and Foreign Intelligence Circles, was also about to give up the greater details of what all happened and he gets killed to silence his leaks. It is most important in the grand scheme of things to win the war, and one has been fought right in the middle of America in most people's plain sight, and few have been the wiser as to the Foreign Espionage systems that have seriously damaged the US and its wants for Freedom and ultimate truth.

These issues are about to come into view and fit the plight that Americans have suffered far too long.

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The importance of the Netherland Antilles is a rather well kept story in the US, but this area is a major oil dealing unit for transhipments of oil and refining operations in the oil markets. It was powered primarily via the Venezuela Oil Fields of South America.

One of the largest operations there is the Hess Oil Company that is HQ'd in New York. The Hess Oil Company was the prime oil supplier in Europe for the "Big Red One"----the 1st Armured Division that invaded Europe in WWII.

So, when the Russians offered Castro a Million Barrels of Oil this set off all manner of alarm bells for those seeking to corner the market in Venezuela oil operations in South America. Schlumberger and Hess Oil along with the 8F gang wanting their refineries back (Esso, Texaco), along with Royal Dutch Shell.

Today, the region has lost their war that started with the Castro take over of Cuba, as now the Cubans are being helped by the Chinese and Russians to develop the Cuba operations into a major center for oil production and offshore oil wells in the Cuba Gulf Water areas.

In the times of JFK, this was called Communist take over and aggression. Such lead to JFK's death for making Peace with the Russians and the Cubans.

Now perhaps with the Cubans now solidly connected with Russia and China the real story of the 8F gang, their Sec. of Treasury's meddling, and the PERMINDEX's Prince Bernhard of the Netherland's operations can be told on an International Scale.

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It is looking like the UK is celebrating LBJ for being their agent for the JFK assassination. Huge write up on making a monument for where LBJ got sworn in to take control of the JFK mess, and save the Foreign Agents associated with PERMINDEX that were in on the Cuba deals and the JFK hit.

Most people know the UK's Victor Rothschild got Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands to set up the Bilderbergs and a version of his NW7 as PERMINDEX espionage unit. Some of their first games were to take on Batista, the Castro, then JFK, then MLK, then RFK and the list goes on and on. Even LHO and his best pal George de Mohrenschildt were killed for this Foreign Intelligence take over of the USA.

Then they took up the Bernard Russel games of infinite attempts to blame the CIA, when the real culprits were the PERMENDEX Foreign Intelligence. They wanted their Royal Dutch Shell (Netherlands) refinery back and sole control of the Carribean and Gulf oil interests.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2064789/Spot-Lyndon-Baines-Johnson-sworn-JFK-assassination-identified-48-years.html#ixzz1f80L8q36

Unfortunately, Russia and China now help Cuba and they will loose total control and hopefully go bankrupt as these other inteests take over.

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Lots of dead men can't speak due to the JFK assassination and aftermath that still affects us today, or can they speak from their graves? I certainly think the answer becomes clear when the massive pile of dead bodies has one common theme.

This appears to have spoken to persons like Osama Bin Laden and his "The Base" group, as Bin Laden was once a CIA asset. Bin Laden knew the operations of the CIA and he appears to have known about the operations of PERMINDEX, which was the European version of the CIA to steer political factors in their interests, even to the point of killing those that didn't play their games for facist like control over America or larger areas of the world.

The Islamics have been onto the Rockefeller games with the CIA for a long time, and others have noticed the PERMINDEX operations run by Prince Bernhard and his alliance with the Rothschilds and European Royalists. When JFK was killed, this set off a huge run of PERMINDEX operating inside the US that killed many honest US Constitution respecting persons. The PERMINDEX methods were slowly absorbed into the methods of the Rockefeller World Trade Center Operations.

Thus, in the great scheme of world affairs the Bin Ladens and other Islamic interest groups spotted this Fascist Intending group that had been killing people to get their ways, even those in the USA. So, the 911 event happened with many Islamics committing suicide to attack the Great Satan of the PERMINDEX based Twin Towers in New York.

I suppose they intentionally picked the date 911 as an Emergency message to Americans that their country has been taken over from within, but the typical America is rather dumb and easily seduced into following the ways of the Beasts. America was never designed to follow the footsteps of the Fascist Beasts represented by the hold these Corporate Elites have on the US Political System.

The biggest secret of JFK is that once you find the killers and controllers there, you find the reason for 911 and that America is more a hostage of fascists, than free. That was the message the 911 event was supposed to have awakened Americans as to what was happening to them. JFK was certainly into exposing the same things, which is why he was killed.

So, what do we have today but everyone is more and more upset and those intent on hiding the truth are doing more harm than good. The world is closing in on the crooks that killed JFK and the reasons for 911. We have Occupy Wall Street making the young people nervious and sending out some veiled message to those pulling the stings from the shadows of world power. As they get more and more nervious they steer the world into another World War to attempt to gain more power and control and hide the ultimate truths from being exposed as to what caused the problems to begin with.

Thus, it is important to connect the dots between the Nov. 11, 1963 killing of JFK and the larger evens of Tuesday, September 11, 2001 with thousands killed over the exact same issues that killed JFK, RFK, and MLK and hundreds of others that knew too much. It will be up to each American to sift these issues to discover if he is standing on the side of the Beast, that threatens the world with their same loss of freedoms and economic prosperity. Is it really wise to stand on the side that seeks to deny them the fuller truths and use and abuse them without end in sight?

We know what side JFK chose----Freedom and Constitution.

We know what side the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, and Bilderberg types chose as well----the Revelations of the Beast and Armageddon. It is a problem that was well in sight some 2,000 years ago as to be in the making. In the near future a third world war begins, because many can't think clearly, can't discover the real history that has been taken from them along with their basic freedom.

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...Dallas' HL Hunt was a raging JBS member along with General Walker. These two played a ring leadership role on Dallas to have JFK killed.

Jim, I'm very interested in the General Walker connection and the Dallas connection in general.

For one thing, General Walker had one of the strongest motives for revenge against the Kennedys of anybody in America, IMHO, including Carlos Marcello (who was deported to Guatemala without a suitcase by the Kennedys in 1961). General Walker was one of the organizers of the Ole Miss anti-integration march of 1962 that ended in a riot. The Kennedys had him arrested, and failing to detain him, held him on charges of insanity! This was a profound disgrace to a decorated General of WW2. (I perceive the seeds of vast hatred here.)

After resigning from the Army, Walker enjoyed a career as rightist lecturer across the USA, and obtained a loyal following. He also retained many of his US Army contacts, and was an officer in the Texas Minutemen (who made the JBS look like store clerks).

Guy Banister was also an officer in the Texas Minutemen. As I recall, David Ferrie also served under General Walker at one point. Also, Jack Martin, who worked for Guy Banister, may have served under General Walker.

A 1963 home film, allegedly by a random tourist named Jack Martin, may be of interest to this thread. (It was once available from Collector's Archive in Canada, which seems to have moved or gone bust.) In this short film, a man is visiting General Walker in Dallas, and filming the bullet holes left in his home by some shooter on April 10, 1963. Later, the same man is in a park in New Orleans, when he hears a commotion on Canal Street. He hurries over to see Lee Harvey Oswald handing out FPCC leaflets, and fighting with Carlos Bringuier, and being arrested by police. This home movie ends with a long shot of the Canal Street buildings, pans down to the street, and ends with a close-up of one of the FPCC flyers lying in the gutter.

This doesn't sound like a random home movie by a random tourist randomly named Jack Martin, to me. It makes a direct connection between the General Edwin Walker shooting and Lee Harvey Oswald, in a material form. This was months before the connection between Oswald and General Walker was announced by Marina Oswald after the murders.

The only other person who knew (or suspected) about this shooting was George De Mohrenschildt, as he admitted to the Warren Commission in 1964. If George DM spread the word about Oswald's "pot-shot" at General Walker (either to the CIA or to other para-military groups in Texas) then we would perceive a solid, materal motive to make Oswald into Walker's patsy, IMHO.

If these suspicions are warranted, then we would also have a material connection that links the New Orleans plotters with perhaps the most central of the Dallas plotters.

I'm very interested in finding more information about any contacts between General Walker and: (i) Guy Banister; (ii) David Ferrie; and (iii) Jack Martin.

Thanks for the thread,

--Paul

P.S. I've already scoured Bruce Adamson's material about George De Mohrenschildt for social contacts with General Walker, but came up empty-handed. Their only possible social connection would have been at the Dallas Petroleum Club. But as George DM wrote to the HSCA, he and Oswald used to joke about General Walker, calling him General Fokker. The scorn that George DM possibly had for General Walker may have influenced Oswald's behavior. Anyway, my theory doesn't rely on any contact between George DM and General Walker - a CIA go-between would be enough. I am very interested in any contact between General Walker and 544 Camp Street in New Orleans in 1963.

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Ran into an interesting article on George de Mohrenschildt here:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/THE-JFK-CASE--OSWALD-AND-by-Bill-Simpich-110814-415.html

Some of the more interesting parts to gleen are that the White Russian mantra was similar to that of the IG Farben system of mega Corporation to control areas.

One has to keep in mind that Stalin wanted to make Peace with Germany and started to act like Hitler's machine way before WWII. So, we see the White Russian's sounding like the IG Farben methods. Stalin went so far as to kick out all Jewish influence in the Russian Government to be like Hitler.

So, we see this area around Minsk as the White Russian area and they were easy to the Ghelen Organization to appeal to help Germany. LHO also ends up in Minsk, the heart of the White Russian area.

The OSS didn't trust GD most likely due to the issues of the White Russians in the times of the OSS were allied with the Germans.

However, after the war we do see GD get close ties with the CIA on various fronts. We know GD is connected with John DeMenil in Houston, who is both PERMINDEX Board and President of Schlumberger.

George de Mohrenschildt is at least a triple agent with a long long history of various ties. He is White Russian Ghelen Organization during the war, ends up with CIA associations after the war, and in Texas he is hooked up with the IG Farben NW7 recreation in the form of PERMINDEX.

We also know these various factions from Rockefeller to the Bilderberg Royalists hated Communism and they were dead set against Eisenhower even entertaining Khruschev's peace overtures in the mid and late 50s. LHO appears to have been sent to Russia by these Foreign Intelligence connections in Dallas to the express purpose of fannin the flames on the U-2 spy methods of the US. The Gary Powers incident broke up the Eisnehower and Khruschey peace interests.

Why the Rockefellers and the European Royalists all have the Communists is that they came up with a sure fire way to defeat the IG Farben Corporate Control model that was invented by Rockefellers, taken up by IG Farben as a good system for domination, and again taken up by the PERMINDEX Espionage system of the Bilderbergs.

Rockefeller was defeated in his efforts to deveope the Amazaon because all the countries got wise to his methods and set up state rules on corperate ownership and citizenship, and that system ousted Rockefeller from South America and Central America largely. Likewise, the Rockfellers are ways complaiging to Russia about ownership of property, which the Russians use to keep out the Corporate Beast that can move in and end up taking control of the country.

If you look at Venezula, one finds they wanted to exploit that oil field there, but these South America rules kept out the corporate methods. So, what happened was the corporate types set up refineries on Dutch Indies territory and the had shipped in the oil from state owned areas to these corporate owned areas of the Dutch Indies.

You also find Schlumberger Incorperated around this area and it is home to mega oil giants like Hess Oil Corporation, which supplied the fuel for the Big Red One in WWII, which was the 1st Armored Div.

Be sure to study that Communism is a way to defeat the Corporation methods from dominating the Government. In the US, the entire Government has been taken over by this system of corporate domination and it elects all the polticians today. And that warning that the US would fall from within has become totally true. And how he could make that prediction was by the simple observations of the Rockefeller systems attempts to take over the Amazon, the migration of that technique to IG Farben and the NAZI system, and the later recreation of the IG Farben methods into PERMINDEX and the Bilderberg corportate alliances by the former NW7 person, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands.

What allowing these overbearing Fascists to do to America has left it a broken nation, with freedom and independence used and abused and basically lost.

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...Dallas' HL Hunt was a raging JBS member along with General Walker. These two played a ring leadership role on Dallas to have JFK killed.

Jim, I'm very interested in the General Walker connection and the Dallas connection in general.

For one thing, General Walker had one of the strongest motives for revenge against the Kennedys of anybody in America, IMHO, including Carlos Marcello (who was deported to Guatemala without a suitcase by the Kennedys in 1961). General Walker was one of the organizers of the Ole Miss anti-integration march of 1962 that ended in a riot. The Kennedys had him arrested, and failing to detain him, held him on charges of insanity! This was a profound disgrace to a decorated General of WW2. (I perceive the seeds of vast hatred here.)

After resigning from the Army, Walker enjoyed a career as rightist lecturer across the USA, and obtained a loyal following. He also retained many of his US Army contacts, and was an officer in the Texas Minutemen (who made the JBS look like store clerks).

Guy Banister was also an officer in the Texas Minutemen. As I recall, David Ferrie also served under General Walker at one point. Also, Jack Martin, who worked for Guy Banister, may have served under General Walker.

A 1963 home film, allegedly by a random tourist named Jack Martin, may be of interest to this thread. (It was once available from Collector's Archive in Canada, which seems to have moved or gone bust.) In this short film, a man is visiting General Walker in Dallas, and filming the bullet holes left in his home by some shooter on April 10, 1963. Later, the same man is in a park in New Orleans, when he hears a commotion on Canal Street. He hurries over to see Lee Harvey Oswald handing out FPCC leaflets, and fighting with Carlos Bringuier, and being arrested by police. This home movie ends with a long shot of the Canal Street buildings, pans down to the street, and ends with a close-up of one of the FPCC flyers lying in the gutter.

This doesn't sound like a random home movie by a random tourist randomly named Jack Martin, to me. It makes a direct connection between the General Edwin Walker shooting and Lee Harvey Oswald, in a material form. This was months before the connection between Oswald and General Walker was announced by Marina Oswald after the murders.

The only other person who knew (or suspected) about this shooting was George De Mohrenschildt, as he admitted to the Warren Commission in 1964. If George DM spread the word about Oswald's "pot-shot" at General Walker (either to the CIA or to other para-military groups in Texas) then we would perceive a solid, materal motive to make Oswald into Walker's patsy, IMHO.

If these suspicions are warranted, then we would also have a material connection that links the New Orleans plotters with perhaps the most central of the Dallas plotters.

I'm very interested in finding more information about any contacts between General Walker and: (i) Guy Banister; (ii) David Ferrie; and (iii) Jack Martin.

Thanks for the thread,

--Paul

P.S. I've already scoured Bruce Adamson's material about George De Mohrenschildt for social contacts with General Walker, but came up empty-handed. Their only possible social connection would have been at the Dallas Petroleum Club. But as George DM wrote to the HSCA, he and Oswald used to joke about General Walker, calling him General Fokker. The scorn that George DM possibly had for General Walker may have influenced Oswald's behavior. Anyway, my theory doesn't rely on any contact between George DM and General Walker - a CIA go-between would be enough. I am very interested in any contact between General Walker and 544 Camp Street in New Orleans in 1963.

I do not think Gen. Edwin Walker was involved in the JFK assassination because Walker wrote the HSCA and told them that the bullet that they had in evidence was NOT the one found in his house. Apparently, someone had swapped out bullets in an attempt to FRAME Oswald for the Walker shooting. You don't write the HSCA talking about the wrong bullet if you are in fact involved in the JFK assassination; you keep your mouth shut.

I have no doubt that Walker was professionally and socially acquainted with the killers of JFK, because I think his good friend HL Hunt was involved in the JFK assassination. And I am sure their were others that he knew.

Similarly, I do not think John J. McCloy was involved in the planning of the JFK because he asked for the Warren Commission to have subpeana power; again you don't do stuff like that if you were involved in the assassination. As for McCloy, I am sure he too was professionally and socially acquainted with the murderers of Kennedy. McCloy was a good friend of Clint Murchison, Sr. - another person who I am convinced was deep into the JFK assassination.

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...Dallas' HL Hunt was a raging JBS member along with General Walker. These two played a ring leadership role on Dallas to have JFK killed.

Jim, I'm very interested in the General Walker connection and the Dallas connection in general.

For one thing, General Walker had one of the strongest motives for revenge against the Kennedys of anybody in America, IMHO, including Carlos Marcello (who was deported to Guatemala without a suitcase by the Kennedys in 1961). General Walker was one of the organizers of the Ole Miss anti-integration march of 1962 that ended in a riot. The Kennedys had him arrested, and failing to detain him, held him on charges of insanity! This was a profound disgrace to a decorated General of WW2. (I perceive the seeds of vast hatred here.)

After resigning from the Army, Walker enjoyed a career as rightist lecturer across the USA, and obtained a loyal following. He also retained many of his US Army contacts, and was an officer in the Texas Minutemen (who made the JBS look like store clerks).

Guy Banister was also an officer in the Texas Minutemen. As I recall, David Ferrie also served under General Walker at one point. Also, Jack Martin, who worked for Guy Banister, may have served under General Walker.

A 1963 home film, allegedly by a random tourist named Jack Martin, may be of interest to this thread. (It was once available from Collector's Archive in Canada, which seems to have moved or gone bust.) In this short film, a man is visiting General Walker in Dallas, and filming the bullet holes left in his home by some shooter on April 10, 1963. Later, the same man is in a park in New Orleans, when he hears a commotion on Canal Street. He hurries over to see Lee Harvey Oswald handing out FPCC leaflets, and fighting with Carlos Bringuier, and being arrested by police. This home movie ends with a long shot of the Canal Street buildings, pans down to the street, and ends with a close-up of one of the FPCC flyers lying in the gutter.

This doesn't sound like a random home movie by a random tourist randomly named Jack Martin, to me. It makes a direct connection between the General Edwin Walker shooting and Lee Harvey Oswald, in a material form. This was months before the connection between Oswald and General Walker was announced by Marina Oswald after the murders.

The only other person who knew (or suspected) about this shooting was George De Mohrenschildt, as he admitted to the Warren Commission in 1964. If George DM spread the word about Oswald's "pot-shot" at General Walker (either to the CIA or to other para-military groups in Texas) then we would perceive a solid, materal motive to make Oswald into Walker's patsy, IMHO.

If these suspicions are warranted, then we would also have a material connection that links the New Orleans plotters with perhaps the most central of the Dallas plotters.

I'm very interested in finding more information about any contacts between General Walker and: (i) Guy Banister; (ii) David Ferrie; and (iii) Jack Martin.

Thanks for the thread,

--Paul

P.S. I've already scoured Bruce Adamson's material about George De Mohrenschildt for social contacts with General Walker, but came up empty-handed. Their only possible social connection would have been at the Dallas Petroleum Club. But as George DM wrote to the HSCA, he and Oswald used to joke about General Walker, calling him General Fokker. The scorn that George DM possibly had for General Walker may have influenced Oswald's behavior. Anyway, my theory doesn't rely on any contact between George DM and General Walker - a CIA go-between would be enough. I am very interested in any contact between General Walker and 544 Camp Street in New Orleans in 1963.

I do not think Gen. Edwin Walker was involved in the JFK assassination because Walker wrote the HSCA and told them that the bullet that they had in evidence was NOT the one found in his house. Apparently, someone had swapped out bullets in an attempt to FRAME Oswald for the Walker shooting. You don't write the HSCA talking about the wrong bullet if you are in fact involved in the JFK assassination; you keep your mouth shut.

I have no doubt that Walker was professionally and socially acquainted with the killers of JFK, because I think his good friend HL Hunt was involved in the JFK assassination. And I am sure their were others that he knew.

Similarly, I do not think John J. McCloy was involved in the planning of the JFK because he asked for the Warren Commission to have subpeana power; again you don't do stuff like that if you were involved in the assassination. As for McCloy, I am sure he too was professionally and socially acquainted with the murderers of Kennedy. McCloy was a good friend of Clint Murchison, Sr. - another person who I am convinced was deep into the JFK assassination.

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...Dallas' HL Hunt was a raging JBS member along with General Walker. These two played a ring leadership role on Dallas to have JFK killed.

Jim, I'm very interested in the General Walker connection and the Dallas connection in general.

For one thing, General Walker had one of the strongest motives for revenge against the Kennedys of anybody in America, IMHO, including Carlos Marcello (who was deported to Guatemala without a suitcase by the Kennedys in 1961). General Walker was one of the organizers of the Ole Miss anti-integration march of 1962 that ended in a riot. The Kennedys had him arrested, and failing to detain him, held him on charges of insanity! This was a profound disgrace to a decorated General of WW2. (I perceive the seeds of vast hatred here.)

After resigning from the Army, Walker enjoyed a career as rightist lecturer across the USA, and obtained a loyal following. He also retained many of his US Army contacts, and was an officer in the Texas Minutemen (who made the JBS look like store clerks).

Guy Banister was also an officer in the Texas Minutemen. As I recall, David Ferrie also served under General Walker at one point. Also, Jack Martin, who worked for Guy Banister, may have served under General Walker.

A 1963 home film, allegedly by a random tourist named Jack Martin, may be of interest to this thread. (It was once available from Collector's Archive in Canada, which seems to have moved or gone bust.) In this short film, a man is visiting General Walker in Dallas, and filming the bullet holes left in his home by some shooter on April 10, 1963. Later, the same man is in a park in New Orleans, when he hears a commotion on Canal Street. He hurries over to see Lee Harvey Oswald handing out FPCC leaflets, and fighting with Carlos Bringuier, and being arrested by police. This home movie ends with a long shot of the Canal Street buildings, pans down to the street, and ends with a close-up of one of the FPCC flyers lying in the gutter.

This doesn't sound like a random home movie by a random tourist randomly named Jack Martin, to me. It makes a direct connection between the General Edwin Walker shooting and Lee Harvey Oswald, in a material form. This was months before the connection between Oswald and General Walker was announced by Marina Oswald after the murders.

The only other person who knew (or suspected) about this shooting was George De Mohrenschildt, as he admitted to the Warren Commission in 1964. If George DM spread the word about Oswald's "pot-shot" at General Walker (either to the CIA or to other para-military groups in Texas) then we would perceive a solid, materal motive to make Oswald into Walker's patsy, IMHO.

If these suspicions are warranted, then we would also have a material connection that links the New Orleans plotters with perhaps the most central of the Dallas plotters.

I'm very interested in finding more information about any contacts between General Walker and: (i) Guy Banister; (ii) David Ferrie; and (iii) Jack Martin.

Thanks for the thread,

--Paul

P.S. I've already scoured Bruce Adamson's material about George De Mohrenschildt for social contacts with General Walker, but came up empty-handed. Their only possible social connection would have been at the Dallas Petroleum Club. But as George DM wrote to the HSCA, he and Oswald used to joke about General Walker, calling him General Fokker. The scorn that George DM possibly had for General Walker may have influenced Oswald's behavior. Anyway, my theory doesn't rely on any contact between George DM and General Walker - a CIA go-between would be enough. I am very interested in any contact between General Walker and 544 Camp Street in New Orleans in 1963.

Paul, I too think the film taken by Jack Martin of Walker in Dallas and of Oswald giving out leaflets in New Orleans is significant and not just a random coincidence, and would like to get a copy of it and more background on Martin.

Be aware of the fact that there are a number of other Jack Martins - including the one who worked for Bannister, another one who was a religious fanatic and an early if not the first suspect in the assassination - a Martin who was looking for Ruby on the night before the assassination and a Latin - Juan Martin who sold guns to the Dallas Cubans.

If anyone can find any more info on the Jack Martin who took the film of Walker and Oswald with the leaflets it would be greatly appreciated if it was shared.

BK

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...Dallas' HL Hunt was a raging JBS member along with General Walker. These two played a ring leadership role on Dallas to have JFK killed.

Jim, I'm very interested in the General Walker connection and the Dallas connection in general.

For one thing, General Walker had one of the strongest motives for revenge against the Kennedys of anybody in America, IMHO, including Carlos Marcello (who was deported to Guatemala without a suitcase by the Kennedys in 1961). General Walker was one of the organizers of the Ole Miss anti-integration march of 1962 that ended in a riot. The Kennedys had him arrested, and failing to detain him, held him on charges of insanity! This was a profound disgrace to a decorated General of WW2. (I perceive the seeds of vast hatred here.)

After resigning from the Army, Walker enjoyed a career as rightist lecturer across the USA, and obtained a loyal following. He also retained many of his US Army contacts, and was an officer in the Texas Minutemen (who made the JBS look like store clerks).

Guy Banister was also an officer in the Texas Minutemen. As I recall, David Ferrie also served under General Walker at one point. Also, Jack Martin, who worked for Guy Banister, may have served under General Walker.

A 1963 home film, allegedly by a random tourist named Jack Martin, may be of interest to this thread. (It was once available from Collector's Archive in Canada, which seems to have moved or gone bust.) In this short film, a man is visiting General Walker in Dallas, and filming the bullet holes left in his home by some shooter on April 10, 1963. Later, the same man is in a park in New Orleans, when he hears a commotion on Canal Street. He hurries over to see Lee Harvey Oswald handing out FPCC leaflets, and fighting with Carlos Bringuier, and being arrested by police. This home movie ends with a long shot of the Canal Street buildings, pans down to the street, and ends with a close-up of one of the FPCC flyers lying in the gutter.

This doesn't sound like a random home movie by a random tourist randomly named Jack Martin, to me. It makes a direct connection between the General Edwin Walker shooting and Lee Harvey Oswald, in a material form. This was months before the connection between Oswald and General Walker was announced by Marina Oswald after the murders.

The only other person who knew (or suspected) about this shooting was George De Mohrenschildt, as he admitted to the Warren Commission in 1964. If George DM spread the word about Oswald's "pot-shot" at General Walker (either to the CIA or to other para-military groups in Texas) then we would perceive a solid, materal motive to make Oswald into Walker's patsy, IMHO.

If these suspicions are warranted, then we would also have a material connection that links the New Orleans plotters with perhaps the most central of the Dallas plotters.

I'm very interested in finding more information about any contacts between General Walker and: (i) Guy Banister; (ii) David Ferrie; and (iii) Jack Martin.

Thanks for the thread,

--Paul

P.S. I've already scoured Bruce Adamson's material about George De Mohrenschildt for social contacts with General Walker, but came up empty-handed. Their only possible social connection would have been at the Dallas Petroleum Club. But as George DM wrote to the HSCA, he and Oswald used to joke about General Walker, calling him General Fokker. The scorn that George DM possibly had for General Walker may have influenced Oswald's behavior. Anyway, my theory doesn't rely on any contact between George DM and General Walker - a CIA go-between would be enough. I am very interested in any contact between General Walker and 544 Camp Street in New Orleans in 1963.

Hello Paul,

I think you raise several very important points, from the Film of LHO being gathered to the strong resistance of JFK toward Walker. JFK wanted to put the hurt on Walker for going against him on US Foreign and Domestic Policy. Also, good points to see if the New Orleans crew had any associations with Walker. I've not seen any to date, but will start looking more closely. I'll second the call to find that film and get it into the limelight.

Harry Dean brings up some good information on General Walker and the California JBS. Dean points out that General Walker was actively working on killing JFK.

That a US General in Germany is off advertising for the JBS is most interesting. Most consider the JBS as instigated by Rockefeller and his helping the European Royalist elements (Bilderberg and Prince Bernhard at the request of Victor Rothschild) that hated Communism and wanted more aggressive attention applied. General Walker certainly looks like he is working for these same European Royalists as Rockefeller.

I do think JFK was tracking down those people working against him on Peace and definitely there is a huge signature for the European Foreign Intelligence gaming the US via the JBS. I'd think General Walker well knew that he was working for the European big banking elements. General Walker led the JFK is a Communist hate campaign in Dallas and Houston.

It gets really interesting as California gets used as a place to sequester records of PERMINDEX and witnesses for the Jim Garrison trial. There is little doubt that General Walker was one of the forces that desired JFK to be dead, and worked toward that aim.

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...Dallas' HL Hunt was a raging JBS member along with General Walker. These two played a ring leadership role on Dallas to have JFK killed.

Jim, I'm very interested in the General Walker connection and the Dallas connection in general.

For one thing, General Walker had one of the strongest motives for revenge against the Kennedys of anybody in America, IMHO, including Carlos Marcello (who was deported to Guatemala without a suitcase by the Kennedys in 1961). General Walker was one of the organizers of the Ole Miss anti-integration march of 1962 that ended in a riot. The Kennedys had him arrested, and failing to detain him, held him on charges of insanity! This was a profound disgrace to a decorated General of WW2. (I perceive the seeds of vast hatred here.)

After resigning from the Army, Walker enjoyed a career as rightist lecturer across the USA, and obtained a loyal following. He also retained many of his US Army contacts, and was an officer in the Texas Minutemen (who made the JBS look like store clerks).

Guy Banister was also an officer in the Texas Minutemen. As I recall, David Ferrie also served under General Walker at one point. Also, Jack Martin, who worked for Guy Banister, may have served under General Walker.

A 1963 home film, allegedly by a random tourist named Jack Martin, may be of interest to this thread. (It was once available from Collector's Archive in Canada, which seems to have moved or gone bust.) In this short film, a man is visiting General Walker in Dallas, and filming the bullet holes left in his home by some shooter on April 10, 1963. Later, the same man is in a park in New Orleans, when he hears a commotion on Canal Street. He hurries over to see Lee Harvey Oswald handing out FPCC leaflets, and fighting with Carlos Bringuier, and being arrested by police. This home movie ends with a long shot of the Canal Street buildings, pans down to the street, and ends with a close-up of one of the FPCC flyers lying in the gutter.

This doesn't sound like a random home movie by a random tourist randomly named Jack Martin, to me. It makes a direct connection between the General Edwin Walker shooting and Lee Harvey Oswald, in a material form. This was months before the connection between Oswald and General Walker was announced by Marina Oswald after the murders.

The only other person who knew (or suspected) about this shooting was George De Mohrenschildt, as he admitted to the Warren Commission in 1964. If George DM spread the word about Oswald's "pot-shot" at General Walker (either to the CIA or to other para-military groups in Texas) then we would perceive a solid, materal motive to make Oswald into Walker's patsy, IMHO.

If these suspicions are warranted, then we would also have a material connection that links the New Orleans plotters with perhaps the most central of the Dallas plotters.

I'm very interested in finding more information about any contacts between General Walker and: (i) Guy Banister; (ii) David Ferrie; and (iii) Jack Martin.

Thanks for the thread,

--Paul

P.S. I've already scoured Bruce Adamson's material about George De Mohrenschildt for social contacts with General Walker, but came up empty-handed. Their only possible social connection would have been at the Dallas Petroleum Club. But as George DM wrote to the HSCA, he and Oswald used to joke about General Walker, calling him General Fokker. The scorn that George DM possibly had for General Walker may have influenced Oswald's behavior. Anyway, my theory doesn't rely on any contact between George DM and General Walker - a CIA go-between would be enough. I am very interested in any contact between General Walker and 544 Camp Street in New Orleans in 1963.

I do not think Gen. Edwin Walker was involved in the JFK assassination because Walker wrote the HSCA and told them that the bullet that they had in evidence was NOT the one found in his house. Apparently, someone had swapped out bullets in an attempt to FRAME Oswald for the Walker shooting. You don't write the HSCA talking about the wrong bullet if you are in fact involved in the JFK assassination; you keep your mouth shut.

I have no doubt that Walker was professionally and socially acquainted with the killers of JFK, because I think his good friend HL Hunt was involved in the JFK assassination. And I am sure their were others that he knew.

Similarly, I do not think John J. McCloy was involved in the planning of the JFK because he asked for the Warren Commission to have subpeana power; again you don't do stuff like that if you were involved in the assassination. As for McCloy, I am sure he too was professionally and socially acquainted with the murderers of Kennedy. McCloy was a good friend of Clint Murchison, Sr. - another person who I am convinced was deep into the JFK assassination.

Hello Robert,

I think General Walker was up to his neck in the planning to off JFK. That is bullet comes up in question can have various details to inspect.

Read Harry Dean's insights on General Walker as he vistited the stronghold of the JBS in California. General Walker wanted JFK's head on the stick.

General Walker was trying to frame up LHO with the bullet at his home, so somehow to complete that idea he had to claim someone changed the bullet. Apparently, to make his theory that LHO wanted to off Fascist General Walker, the LHO bullet had to match the LHO rifle. General Walker was quick to use his old German connections to tell that LHO was his shooter too.

I must say this book you spotted by Morris A Bealle should turn out to be a very good hint on the JFK hit. Morris Bealle was a real sharp cookie, a reporter from Chicago, who exposed the dirty dealings and history for the Rockefellers and likely spotted the Rockefeller European alliance. If one looks at the JBS, it was Rockefeller that installed Robert Welch and set up the sympathy theme of John Birch to garner hate toward those resisting the Rockefellers Corportate methods to take power and control of counties.

IG Farben was built on the Rockefeller Corporation model. It worked so good for Hitler that Victor Rothschild of the UK got Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands to install their own version of things via the Bilderberg system even to the degree of making the German's NW7 espionage unit as PERMINDEX. PERMINDEX was highly involved in the Southern America and their interests hated JFK to a greater degree than General Charles DeGaulle.

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Per Paul's General Walker interests:

In looking into some of the New Orleans assciations with General Walker, it appears he did have many associations there. Walked is down in New Orleans on Nov. 20, 1963 and perhaps for some time.

http://www.jfk-online.com/jpsgwnol.html

The interesting issues are that Banister was a Minuitemen and the FBI had some interests in infiltrating the Minutemen with funding and looking for the more violent extremists. It fits the same pattern that Banister was using with LHO and fishing for the extremists with the "Fair Play for Cuba" games.

With two high level minutemen in the same town, it would be highly possible they were doing considerable connecting, given that PERMINDEX was also working New Orleas as well as Dallas and Houston.

It is highly likely to suspect their alliance as being associated. Have to see if there is a better hard copy for this.

The most interesting issue is this Oak Ridge connected person, Medfore Evans, who is big buddies with HL Hunt and is pugged into the JBS highly. That is going to get him close to Boris Pash and DISC.

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http://www.sott.net/articles/show/125003-John-F-Kennedy-The-Secret-Service-and-Rich-Fascist-Texans

FAST FORWARD: At 12:23 on November 22, from his office on the 7th floor of the Mercantile Building, Haroldson Lafayette Hunt watched John Kennedy ride towards Dealey Plaza, where fate awaited him at 12:30. A few minutes later, escorted by six men in two cars, Hunt left the center of Dallas without even stopping by his house.

At that very moment; General Walker was in a plane between New Orleans and Shreveport. He joined Mr. Hunt in one of his secret hideaways across the Mexican border. There they remained for a month, protected by personal guards, under the impassive eyes of the FBI. It was not until Christmas that Hunt, Walker and their party returned to Dallas

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Paul,

Per your comment:

"But as George DM wrote to the HSCA, he and Oswald used to joke about General Walker, calling him General Fokker."

George de Mohrenschildt and perhaps LHO were giving a large hint on General Walker's alliances.

Fokker aircraft was a huge Dutch or Netherland aircraft company, and such a nickname would imply that General Walker is saddled up with the Netherland Prince Bernhard and Fokker aircraft gang of the Netherlands.

One you made that association then the Fascist name enters via the Bilderberg alliances.

Then you know can see that Gen Walker was helping the Prince Bernhard gang with the JBS literature in Germany.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18431

One more tie to the Netherlands. LHO entered and left Russia via Netherlands.

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