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I have a few questions about the layout of the TSBD and I am hoping someone here may be able to help.

Specifically, how many access points are there from the 1st floor to the TSBD basement?

The diagrams I have leave some room for interpretation.

I am also interested in finding out if there is a direct line-of-sight to the rear elevators from basement access point(s).

Thanks in Advance!

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Very good questions. You are asking for the layout map of floor a as the WC docs were marked. I've never seen it (the map, but one can deduce it exists) but Bernice has posted some photos of it from which one can get a partial idea. (it's the angles that are not taken or available that are of interest to me) I think there were three elevators, a staircase(2), a book slide. . . I theorise windows, some leading into under the loading dock from where one can imagine the exits could be many. I also think it reasonable to suggest that there was at some time an entry to the underground tunnel system (which would lead to various other buildings and points of exit.)

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Very good questions. You are asking for the layout map of floor a as the WC docs were marked. I've never seen it (the map, but one can deduce it exists) but Bernice has posted some photos of it from which one can get a partial idea. (it's the angles that are not taken or available that are of interest to me) I think there were three elevators, a staircase(2), a book slide. . . I theorise windows, some leading into under the loading dock from where one can imagine the exits could be many. I also think it reasonable to suggest that there was at some time an entry to the underground tunnel system (which would lead to various other buildings and points of exit.)

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John, your post hits some of the top items I am interested in locating: Access locations to the basement from inside the building; access to the basement from the exterior; lines of sight from these points; and also the possibility of tunnel access from the basement.

I found an old tunnel map that appears to show the Dallas Tunnel system Plan extending across Elm St, between Market & Houston Streets, probably a couple hundred feet from the basement of the TSBD.

http://www.dallastun...l-Plan-1980.jpg

I have also been through a number of photgraphs at the Mary Ferrell site, among others, but have not found anything that really helps.

Thanks for your reply.

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You are welcome, Richard.

A number of people are pursuing this. I think it is an issue that could be very important and I hope this topic can go further to answer these questions.

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Very good questions. You are asking for the layout map of floor a as the WC docs were marked. I've never seen it (the map, but one can deduce it exists) but Bernice has posted some photos of it from which one can get a partial idea. (it's the angles that are not taken or available that are of interest to me) I think there were three elevators, a staircase(2), a book slide. . . I theorise windows, some leading into under the loading dock from where one can imagine the exits could be many. I also think it reasonable to suggest that there was at some time an entry to the underground tunnel system (which would lead to various other buildings and points of exit.)

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John, your post hits some of the top items I am interested in locating: Access locations to the basement from inside the building; access to the basement from the exterior; lines of sight from these points; and also the possibility of tunnel access from the basement.

I found an old tunnel map that appears to show the Dallas Tunnel system Plan extending across Elm St, between Market & Houston Streets, probably a couple hundred feet from the basement of the TSBD.

http://www.dallastun...l-Plan-1980.jpg

I have also been through a number of photgraphs at the Mary Ferrell site, among others, but have not found anything that really helps.

Thanks for your reply.

Wow, this is amazing map! I had no idea that such extensive tunnels were under Dallas. Any idea if these were traverse-able? Or just storm sewers?

-Chris

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