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The only part of the rantabbling in your previous post I was able to decode was "If you dont think he was MOSSAD monitored (and considered an enemy of State),you are a fool IMHO," and you complain about me being insulting. Who knows, if the Mossad would need a lot of man power to monitor every anti-Israel journalist. But you previously expressed surprise that they WOULD have monitored him.

Get back when you have evidence Israel rather than Iran was responsible.

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From the diversion thread:

I won't participate in this diversionary thread other than to make posts like these. I replied to you ranting on the other thread.

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KAZMI not Iranian.

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notice that barak ravid has made kazmi into an iranian

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Kazmi, a post-graduate in Persian language from Delhi University, originally from Meerut in Uttar Pradesh, has been residing in south Delhi for several years.

(India Today, Mar 9)

What are you going on about Steve none of the articles I posted on this topic called Kazmi an “Iranian”, he is however a Shia, who worked for the Iranian government, was known for being very pro-Iran and anti-Israel, and supposedly confessed to his role in a plot which all evidence indicates was carried out by Iran

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13 MAR, 2012, 03.09AM IST, BHARTI JAIN,

Israeli embassy car blast case: Iranian spies did it, says Delhi Police

NEW DELHI: The Delhi Police has cracked the Israeli embassy car blast case and traced the conspiracy to Iranian secret agents. According to sources privy to the investigation, it has now been 'conclusively established' that Syed Mohammad Kazmi, the freelance journalist recently arrested in the case, was in touch with an Iranian intelligence officer and had even visited Iran as part of the conspiracy.

Sources in the security establishment told ET that the breakthrough in the February 13 blast on an Israel diplomat's car, will be announced by the Delhi Police in a "day or two." They added that another couple of detentions have been made in the case.

The questioning of these two persons is underway and their arrests will follow soon. A senior official of the security establishment claimed that the Delhi Police had identified the bomber.

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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/israeli-embassy-car-blast-case-iranian-spies-did-it-says-delhi-police/articleshow/12240513.cms

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13 MAR, 2012, 03.09AM IST, BHARTI JAIN,

Israeli embassy car blast case: Iranian spies did it, says Delhi Police

NEW DELHI: The Delhi Police has cracked the Israeli embassy car blast case and traced the conspiracy to Iranian secret agents. According to sources privy to the investigation, it has now been 'conclusively established' that Syed Mohammad Kazmi, the freelance journalist recently arrested in the case, was in touch with an Iranian intelligence officer and had even visited Iran as part of the conspiracy.

Sources in the security establishment told ET that the breakthrough in the February 13 blast on an Israel diplomat's car, will be announced by the Delhi Police in a "day or two." They added that another couple of detentions have been made in the case.

The questioning of these two persons is underway and their arrests will follow soon. A senior official of the security establishment claimed that the Delhi Police had identified the bomber.

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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/israeli-embassy-car-blast-case-iranian-spies-did-it-says-delhi-police/articleshow/12240513.cms

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Jouralists treated well in India ?? no.

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THIS THEY DO IN PUBLIC,private..........

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Police torture of a doctor and lawyer in Varanasi,India

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link http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-South-Central/2010/0413/In-India-beaten-US-journalist-becomes-focus-of-police-torture-probe

In India, beaten US journalist becomes focus of police torture probe

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A report on 'widespread and systemic' police torture in India was published today, focusing on the case of US journalist Joel Elliott. Mr. Elliott claims that Indian police beat him severely while he was in their custody.

By Ben Arnoldy, Staff writer / April 13, 2010

Indian police take part in a parade on Police Commemoration Day in Mumbai October 21, 2009. A human rights watchdog group has published a report alleging 'widespread and systemic' police torture in India, focusing on the case of US journalist Joel Elliott, who says he was beaten severely while in police custody.

An American journalist beaten in New Delhi during a run-in with police six months ago has become the focus of a broader antitorture push in India.

Joel Elliott, a journalist who has written for The Christian Science Monitor, The New York Times, and other publications, suffered severe wounds on his head, legs, and back as well as a black eye in the October 2009 incident. The Delhi police have yet to respond to an official human rights complaint filed five months ago.

Mr. Elliott, now in the US, charges that the police beat and tortured him over the course of six or seven hours that he was in custody and refused his pleas to call the US Embassy.

Graphic photos of Elliott's injuries form the cover of a new watchdog report entitled "Torture in India 2010" released Tuesday. (A PDF copy can be downloaded here, but readers should be forewarned that they may find the images disturbing.)

In the report, activists welcome a new government push to pass an antitorture bill, but warn the effort may not be enough to stop what they see as a worsening problem.

"You have a case here who is distinctly identified as a foreigner, who looks like a European. If that person can be subjected to torture in such a manner the photographs speak for themselves in the heart of Delhi, one can imagine what would happen to the aam admi [common man]," said Suhas Chakma, director of the Asian Centre for Human Rights in Delhi and editor of the report.

'Widespread and systematic' torture by police

The report calls torture in police custody "widespread and systematic." Putting accurate figures on the practice is impossible due to underreporting. But a total of 377,216 official complaints against the police involving everything from rape to kidnappings to deaths in custody have been filed since 1993 with the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC), a government-mandated body in Delhi.

According to human rights groups, data on torture isn't recorded unless there is a death in custody. Those annual figures have been rising: up to 1,977 cases in 2007-2008 from 1,037 officially reported cases in 2000-2001.

While India signed the United Nations Convention against Torture in 1997, the nation has yet to pass legislation that would ratify the convention. The government announced Thursday that it would reintroduce in Parliament a bill to bring the country into compliance.

"Although some provisions exist in the Indian Penal Code, they neither define 'torture' as clearly as in Article 1 of the Convention nor make it criminal as called for by Article 4," says a government press release. Indian officials refused to speak further on the proposal.

India moves to rein in torture, despite tense climate

India is still reeling from the massacre of 76 police by Maoist insurgents known as Naxalites in the country's restive northeast last week. But rather than invoke the usual "national security" argument to stymie complaints about torture, India has moved to ratify the UN convention against torture.

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Mr. Chakma, the report author, commended the government for taking the step, given the timing. But he and other human rights activists criticize the secrecy surrounding the new bill and they worry that flaws in an older version of the bill from 2008 will not be addressed. Specifically, the old bill left bureaucrats with the power to veto judicial inquiries into torture cases. The 2008 bill also put the burden of proof on victims' families, rather than on the police, in disputed cases of deaths in custody.

There are also major exemptions under laws aimed at crushing insurgencies in places like Kashmir and the northeast. "In all areas where torture is endemic there is blanket immunity and exemptions under law," says Ravi Nair, head of the South Asia Human Rights Documentation Center in Delhi.

Such loopholes are problems internationally, too, he says, pointing to China, which has signed and ratified the convention.

"The whole international antitorture regime has weakened over the last 15 years, and especially since 9/11," says Mr. Nair. "In every single interaction with apologists of the state in conferences and seminars, what is thrown against us is 'see what the US is doing' " referring to the American use of torture in the war on terror.

He argues that more than any change in laws, cultural acceptance for torture must change. For this reason, he argues that Elliott's case is significant.

Elliott's case

According to Elliott, his troubles began when he rounded a dark street corner and found four or more uniformed policemen beating someone. He cried out in shock, and that started a heated exchange that turned violent when a policeman hit him with a baton, started to wind up again, and then Elliott punched him in the jaw. Elliott says he fled in fear and tried to hide in a parked taxi. A bystander thought he meant to steal the taxi and shouted to the pursuing police.

Elliott has been charged with attempted theft of the taxi and destruction of property. Police say he smashed the taxi window. Elliott denies attempting to steal the taxi or smashing the window. He was not certain police had pressed those charges until contacted by the Monitor.

When asked about how the case was handled, local officials referred the Monitor to higher-level police officials. One phone number did not work. The other was answered by an official who said the case had moved to another department and that he would call back later that evening with a number. He did not, nor could he be reached again.

Local police inspector Suresh Kaushik says, however, that Elliott was never formally arrested, just detained, so it was unnecessary to call the US Embassy.

"There are different definitions of torture," says Mr. Kaushik. He doesn't see how this case is relevant to the debate: "He was neither a suspect nor brought to the police station for interrogations. It was a public brawl and he was brought to hospital."

'Sensible citizens' don't question policemen

In questioning the policemen's actions that night in October, Elliott appears to have crossed a cultural line.

"The fact is that he attempted to question the policeman," says Nair. "In India, any sensible citizen does not question a policeman. The minute you do, the wrath of state comes upon you. He, being an American, didn't understand the unwritten civil contract that all Indians understand."

Elliott concurs, and also sees how his case can highlight the wider problem.

"Several Indian friends told me they had similar experiences with police in New Delhi. But nobody heard their stories. People only heard my story because I was an American journalist," Elliott wrote in an e-mail.

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No end to India's police torture death toll

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http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/no-end-indias-police-torture-death-toll

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The case of the doctor and lawyer in a city hundreds of miles from Delhi is completely irrelevant; would it make sense to imply that charges against a journalist filed by police and prosecutors in New York can’t be trusted because of police abuse in Indianapolis?

The Joel Elliott incident had nothing to do with his profession; he and the police agree he was drunk and not working on the night in question, entered into a parked taxi and a security guard called the cops . They don’t agree on the rest but even if the police version is true they seem to have used unreasonable violence. That said this has little relevance to the Kazmi case, this doesn’t even seem to be the same police unit. In any case Kazmi supposedly confessed and supposedly one of the bombers in Bangkok had his phone number. All the evidence from Thailand, Malaysia and Azerbaijan indicate the attacks in Georgia, India and Thailand were carried out by the Iranian government.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/thrashed-journalist-cops-point-fingers-no/526846/

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?262297

The 3rd link is disturbing, did the police beat Kazmi’s supposed confession out of him? Did they lie about his number being found among the possessions of one of the Iranian bombers in Bangkok? Perhaps, but all the evidence from Thailand, Malaysia and Azerbaijan points to Iran. So does one of Kazmi’s cousins saying the journalist lent his moped to an Iranian a few months ago, while closer relatives say it has been used. I think it odd the it was registered in Haryana a state distant from Delhi and the town where Kazmi’s family , including his uncle, the supposed owner of the “scooty” lived.

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NEW DELHI, March 15, 2012

Open warrants against 3 Iranian nationals

STAFF REPORTER

A court here on Monday issued open warrants against three Iranian nationals who Delhi police allege were involved in the February 13 bombing of an Israeli diplomat's car.

Chief Metropolitan Magistrate Vinod Yadav issued the open warrant on the application moved by the Special Cell of Delhi Police. The Special Cell told the court that the trio had left the country immediately after the blast but their whereabouts were yet to be ascertained.

An open warrant will allow authorities to proceed legally against the three men when they are apprehended.

Application rejected

Meanwhile, the court rejected freelance journalist Syed Mohammed Ahmad Kazmi's application seeking copies of documents and evidence based on which his arrest had been made, pointing out that the matter was still in the investigation stage.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2995831.ece

India names Iranian suspects in Israeli car bombing

By Harmeet Shah Singh, CNN

March 15, 2012 -- Updated 1407 GMT (2207 HKT)

New Delhi (CNN) -- Indian police are on the lookout for three Iranians they suspect of involvement in last month's bombing of an Israeli Embassy car in New Delhi, a senior investigator said Thursday.

The investigator, who spoke to CNN on the condition of anonymity, identified the suspects as Houshan Afshar, Syed Ali Mehdi Sadr and Mohammad Reza Abolghasemi.

The Iranian Embassy spokesman, Hassan Rahimi Majd, did not respond to CNN's calls for a comment.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/15/world/meast/india-iran-israeli-car-bombing/

Azerbaijan arrests '22 Iranian spies'

Security services in Azerbaijan have arrested 22 people they say were hired by Iran to carry out terrorist attacks against the US and Israeli embassies as well as Western-linked groups and companies.

9:28PM GMT 14 Mar 2012

The national security ministry said Wednesday that the 22, all Azerbaijancitizens, had been trained in Iran, its southern neighbour, by Iran'sRevolutionary Guard. It did not specify when the arrests were made.

In February, Azerbaijan announced the arrest of another suspected terrorist group allegedly working for Iran's secret services, and in January it arrested two people accused of plotting to kill two teachers at a Jewish school in the capital, Baku.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/azerbaijan/9144424/Azerbaijan-arrests-22-Iranian-spies.html

They were thought to have been part of a wider plot that involved a terrorist attack on Israeli diplomats in New Delhi, India and foiled bombings in Georgia and Thailand last month.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/321202#ixzz1pCJVVAlh

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India Seeks Three Iranian Suspects in Israel Diplomat Attack

By Bibhudatta Pradhan - Mar 16, 2012 9:36 AM ET

India issued arrest warrants for three Iranians it has identified as suspects in last month’s attack on an Israeli diplomat’s car, a strike that Israel ’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu blamed on Iran.

Indian authorities are seeking “red corner notices” for the three wanted people, India’s foreign ministry spokesman, Syed Akbaruddin, said in a statement that was posted on the ministry’s website, an apparent reference to the messages Interpol issues to police forces worldwide.

Delhi police named the Iranians as Houshang Afshar Irani, Seyed Ali Mahdiansadr and Mohammadreza Abolghasemi. Police last week arrested an Indian journalist, Syed Mohammed Ahmad Kazmi, 50, who is believed to have worked for Iranian media. Kazmi facilitated the attack, police said in a statement.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-16/india-seeks-three-iranian-suspects-in-israel-diplomat-attack-1-.html

Police to alert Interpol to nab Iranian bombers

Neeraj Chauhan, TNN | Mar 16, 2012, 06.11AM IST

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"When Irani asked hotel staffer Preetpal Singh Sachdeva to arrange a bike, Sachdeva rented him his own bike. Irani had apparently used the bike earlier also during his 15-day stay here just before the attack," a source said.

Investigations have revealed that Irani knew the city well as he had made several visits over a year. After doing the initial planning in February last year, he had returned in April and bought the moped, which he left at Kazmi's house. On his latest trip to carry out the attack, he had spent 15 days in Karol Bagh with two cohorts - Syed Ali Mahdiansadr and Mohammad Reza Abolghasemi. They changed hotels 4-5 times to avoid raising suspicion.

After unearthing strong leads in the case, Delhi Police has begun formalities for issuing red corner notices (international alerts) against the three Iranians through Interpol (India). The passport details of Irani (I17287444/ issued 9/1/10), Mahdiansadr(J14922614/ issued on 25/12/08) and Abolghasemi (F14772374/ issued 2/12/08) will be shared with Iran to get more details. The three are aged 32-35 years and speak Persian and English.

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Police-to-alert-Interpol-to-nab-Iranian-bombers/articleshow/12285736.cms

Suspect in Israeli bombing tied to people of Iranian origin: police

Reuters

5:27 a.m. CDT, March 16, 2012

(Reuters) - A suspect linked to a bomb blast which targeted Israeli officials in New Delhi was in touch with people of Iranian origin, Delhi's police commissioner said on Friday, adding that warrants for three people had been issued.

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-india-israel-blastbre82f0ht-20120316,0,2736431.story

See also: http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/33616-india-seeks-interpol-warrants-for-iranians

http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/explosionpolice-2-last/976175.html

Express Exclusive: Call details of Bangkok bombers led cops to Israel Embassy attacker

VijaitaSingh : New Delhi, Fri Mar 16 2012, 14:29 hrs

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The Delhi Police figured out the conspiracy behind the recent attack on an Israeli Embassy car by studying call details of the Bangkok bombers, who reportedly belong to the same Iranian module that planned assaults on Israeli targets in New Delhi, Georgia and Bangkok last month.

The Bangkok attack failed as the bombs, stored in a house in a busy locality, detonated accidentally.

Police sources said Houshang Afshar Irani, one of the Iranian suspects against whom warrants have been issued by a Delhi court, was in touch with one of the suspects arrested in Bangkok in the botched terror attempt.

Analysis of call details show Irani's local contact was Urdu journalist Mohammad Ahmad Kazmi, who was arrested on March 7 for his alleged role in the conspiracy.

Police said Kazmi was well aware of the plan. Cops said Irani recced the area around the Israeli Embassy in a scooty that he bought in April 2011. This vehicle was recovered from Kazmi's house after his arrest. Irani had provided a copy of his passport to buy the scooty, the cops said.

Kazmi has received remarkable foreign remittance since last year, officers said. The money deposited in his account was not in parity with his earnings, they said. ''We have details about his bank details as well as his wife's account where he deposited a part of the money,'' an officer said.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/express-exclusive-call-details-of-bangkok-bombers-led-cops-to-israel-.../924602/

See also: http://www.dawn.com/2012/03/16/indian-police-say-delhi-bangkok-blasts-linked.html

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KAZMI not Iranian.

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MOSSAD Besides Scientists we have a false flag for you to frame IRAN..... MEK ....sounds good to us.

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US admits Israel is arming and training terrorist groups to create terrorism

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The MEK and terrorism double standards

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by Sheila Musaji (The American Muslim)

The Mujahedeen Khalq, or People’s Mujahedeen, known as the M.E.K has been designated a terrorist organization by the U.S. State Dept. for 15 years.

The M.E.K. are terrorists. They were driven out of Iran and given a home at a place called Camp Ashraf in Iraq by Saddam Hussein, who they supported. Saddam Hussein used the M.E.K. to carry out terrorist acts in Iran. Now that Hussein is gone, the Iraqi’s want the M.E.K. out of Iraq as they also see it as a dangerous group. They are not former terrorists, but current terrorists.

Richard Engel & Robert Windrem of NBC News reported just this month that

Deadly attacks on Iranian nuclear scientists are being carried out by an Iranian dissident group that is financed, trained and armed by Israel’s secret service, U.S. officials tell NBC News, confirming charges leveled by Iran’s leaders.

The group, the People’s Mujahedin of Iran, has long been designated as a terrorist group by the United States, accused of killing American servicemen and contractors in the 1970s and supporting the takeover of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran before breaking with the Iranian mullahs in 1980.

The attacks, which have killed five Iranian nuclear scientists since 2007 and may have destroyed a missile research and development site, have been carried out in dramatic fashion, with motorcycle-borne assailants often attaching small magnetic bombs to the exterior of the victims’ cars.

… Two senior U.S. officials confirmed for NBC News the MEK’s role in the assassinations, with one senior official saying, “All your inclinations are correct.” A third official would not confirm or deny the relationship, saying only, “It hasn’t been clearly confirmed yet.” All the officials denied any U.S. involvement in the assassinations.

NIAC reports that

A 2004 FBI report on the Mujahaddin-e-Khalq (MEK) was revealed in June 2011 which states that the MEK “is actively involved in planning and executing acts of terrorism,” despite the organization’s alleged renunciation of terror in 2001.

… Some of the highlights (all direct quotes):

•“Los Angeles investigation has determined that the MEK is currently actively involved in planning and executing acts of terrorism.” [pg 4]

•“This organization routinely lobbies unwitting members of Congress under the pretext of human rights issues in Iran.“ [pg 5]

•“NLA fighters are separated from their children who are sent to Europe and brought up by the MEK’s Support Network. Investigation has learned that these children are then further indoctrinated in to the organization and are often used for various social benefit fraud such as was revealed during joint FBI/Cologne Police Department investigation in Germany. In one case one of the children was chained to a bed and only after her escape and report to local police was the fraud scheme discovered. Interviews of some of these MEK children found children fully indoctrinated into a “cult-like” organization with no regard to the welfare of the child. These children are then returned to the NLA to be used as fighters upon coming of age. Interviews also revealed that some of these children were told that their parents would be harmed if the children did not cooperate with the MEK. Open source reporting from defecting MEK members has revealed that MEK fighters are often told the same story about their children should they take issue with MEK leadership and desire to leave the organization.” [pgs 26-27]

•“The MEK, in addition to being a foreign terrorist organization, is a “cult”…MEK members and supporters often indicate that Rajavi makes his decision based on input from God.” [pg 26]

•“MEK members/supporters/fighters have been through years of ideological training and for lack of better word ‘brain washing’.” [pg 31]

•“This (Foreign Terrorist Organization) designation was made due to the MEK’s long and violent history of past terrorist activity directed against U.S. personnel and the U.S. Embassy in Iran during the 1970s, the assassinations of multiple Americans, the MEK’s ongoing acts of terrorism in Iran, and the MEK’s past terrorist activities in Western Countries to include hostage taking and attacks on Iranian diplomatic establishments and officials. This designation was also made to send the message that the U.S. had taken the high road on terrorism and would designate any foreign group engaged in terrorist activity abroad to include not only groups that target U.S. interests, but terrorists groups that target any sovereign nation.” [pg 24]

•“Additionally, the MEK continues to practice misinformation operations in the U.S. and Europe. MEK lobbyist routinely hold press conferences and pass information regarding the current Iranian government that is inaccurate and is designed to influence Western Media and governments.” [pg 18]

•“Interviewers should keep in mind that membership in the MEK is a significant step in the MEK hierarchy or leadership cadre. It is safe to say that only the high echelon leadership will most admit to being MEK members.” [pg 29]

•“ Another tactic that the MEK has been employing is disinformation regarding former MEK members and witnesses who have come forward to testify and speak against the MEK. The MEK will brand these former members and witnesses as Iranian government agents. This information is often picked up by Western Intelligence agencies as factual information and is disseminated as intelligence. This further frustrates criminal investigators as they attempt to interview these former MEK members and potentially use them for testimony.” Pg 18-9

That being the case, it is difficult to understand why it is that elected representatives, and government officials of the U.S. government could support and/or work with, and accept money from this organization freely and openly. It is difficult to understand in the case of support for the M.E.K. as it is difficult to understand in the case of Rep. Peter King’s open support and fundraising for the IRA. The only justification for such an indefensible position must be that these folks believe that the enemy of my enemy can’t be a terrorist.

Glenn Greenwald has written a very detailed article on the hypocrisy of this support for a terrorist organization. Here are a few key points from his article:

In June, 2010, the U.S. Supreme Court issued its 6-3 ruling in the case of Holder v. Humanitarian Law. In that case, the Court upheld the Obama DOJ’s very broad interpretation of the statute that criminalizes the providing of “material support” to groups formally designated by the State Department as Terrorist organizations. The five-judge conservative bloc (along with Justice Stevens) held that pure political speech could be permissibly criminalized as “material support for Terrorism” consistent with the First Amendment if the “advocacy [is] performed in coordination with, or at the direction of, a foreign terrorist organization” (emphasis added). In other words, pure political advocacy in support of a designated Terrorist group could be prosecuted as a felony — punishable with 15 years in prison — if the advocacy is coordinated with that group.

… One can reasonably debate whether MEK actually belongs on the list of Terrorist organizations (the same is true for several other groups on that list). But as a criminal matter, that debate is irrelevant. The law criminalizes the providing of material support to any group on that list, and it is not a defense to argue after one gets caught that the group should be removed.

… What is particularly repellent about all of this is not the supreme hypocrisy and self-interested provincialism of Fran Townsend. That’s all just par for the course. What’s infuriating is that there are large numbers of people — almost always Muslims — who have been prosecuted and are now in prison for providing “material support” to Terrorist groups for doing far less than Fran Townsend and her fellow cast of bipartisan ex-officials have done with and on behalf of MEK. In fact, the U.S. Government has been (under the administration in which Townsend worked) and still is (under the administration Rendell supports) continuously prosecuting Muslims for providing “material support” for Terrorist groups based on their pure speech, all while Fran Townsend, Ed Rendell and company have said nothing or, worse, supported the legal interpretations that justified these prosecutions.

The last time I wrote about these individuals’ material support for MEK, I highlighted just a few of those cases:

•A Staten Island satellite TV salesman in 2009 was sentenced to five years in federal prison merely for including a Hezbollah TV channel as part of the satellite package he sold to customers;

•a Massachusetts resident, Tarek Mehanna, is being prosecuted now ”for posting pro-jihadist material on the internet”;

•a 24-year-old Pakistani legal resident living in Virginia, Jubair Ahmad, was indicted last September for uploading a 5-minute video to YouTube that was highly critical of U.S. actions in the Muslim world, an allegedly criminal act simply because prosecutors claim he discussed the video in advance with the son of a leader of a designated Terrorist organization (Lashkar-e-Tayyiba);

•a Saudi Arabian graduate student, Sami Omar al-Hussayen, was prosecuted simply for maintaining a website with links “to groups that praised suicide bombings in Chechnya and in Israel” and “jihadist” sites that solicited donations for extremist groups (he was ultimately acquitted); and,

• last July, a 22-year-old former Penn State student and son of an instructor at the school, Emerson Winfield Begolly, was indicted for — in the FBI’s words — “repeatedly using the Internet to promote violent jihad against Americans” by posting comments on a “jihadist” Internet forum including “a comment online that praised the shootings” at a Marine Corps base, action which former Obama lawyer Marty Lederman said ”does not at first glance appear to be different from the sort of advocacy of unlawful conduct that is entitled to substantial First Amendment protection.”

Yet we have the most well-connected national security and military officials in Washington doing far more than all of that right out in the open — they’re receiving large payments from a Terrorist group, meeting with its leaders, attending their meetings, and then advocating for them in very public forums; Howard Dean, after getting paid by the group, actually called for MEK’s leader to be recognized as the legitimate President of Iran – and so far none have been prosecuted or even indicted

The National Iranian American Council (NIAC) has previously expressed concern about this support for a terrorist organization. They noted in July of 2011 that

Congressional supporters of the drive to remove the Mujahedin-e Khalq (MEK) from the U.S. terrorism list defended the organization’s use of violence while dismissing Iran’s nonviolent Green Movement at a hearing on Capitol Hill last week. The hearing was also remarkable in that senior leaders of the designated foreign terrorist organization were caught counseling some of the witnesses before the hearing. It is illegal to coordinate with a foreign terrorist organization to advocate on behalf of the terrorist group.

… Despite the terrorist listing, Ali Safavi, a senior member of the National Council of Resistance of Iran, was at the hearing, where he openly counseled witnesses before and during their testimony. The NCRI is the MEK’s political wing and is considered a terrorist organization by the U.S. government.

The hearing’s witnesses included three former U.S. officials who have actively participated in pro-MEK conferences, including former Bush Administration Attorney General Michael Mukasey.

All three witnesses who previously appeared at MEK conferences unanimously called for the MEK to be removed from the terror list, though none were asked to disclose whether they had received money to support the organization, as have other officials who have advocated for delisting the group.

The NY Times reports today that this state of affairs may be changing and that such individuals may now face scrutiny. According to the article’s author Scott Shane Edward G. Rendell, the former Democratic governor of Pennsylvania and an outspoken supporter of the M.E.K., said on Monday that William Morris Endeavor, which handles his speaking engagements, received a subpoena last week seeking information on fees he had received for M.E.K.-related speeches.

Shane had reported back in November of 2011 on a long list of officials. At that time, he wrote

The extraordinary lobbying effort to reverse the terrorist designation of the group, the Mujahedeen Khalq, or People’s Mujahedeen, has won the support of two former C.I.A. directors, R. James Woolsey and Porter J. Goss; a former F.B.I. director, Louis J. Freeh; a former attorney general, Michael B. Mukasey; President George W. Bush’s first homeland security chief, Tom Ridge; President Obama’s first national security adviser, Gen. James L. Jones; big-name Republicans like the former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and Democrats like the former Vermont governor Howard Dean; and even the former top counterterrorism official of the State Department, Dell L. Dailey, who argued unsuccessfully for ending the terrorist label while in office.

The American advocates have been well paid, hired through their speaking agencies and collecting fees of $10,000 to $50,000 for speeches on behalf of the Iranian group. Some have been flown to Paris, Berlin and Brussels for appearances.

… The M.E.K. advocacy campaign has included full-page newspaper advertisements identifying the group as “Iran’s Main Opposition” — an absurd distortion in the view of most Iran specialists; leaders of Iran’s broad opposition, known as the Green Movement, have denounced the group. The M.E.K. has hired high-priced lobbyists like the Washington firm Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld. Its lawyers in Europe won a long fight to persuade the European Union to drop its own listing of the M.E.K. as a terrorist group in 2009.

The group’s spending, certainly in the millions of dollars, has inevitably raised questions about funding sources.

Ali Safavi, who runs a pro-M.E.K. group in Washington called Near East Policy Research, says the money comes from wealthy Iranian expatriates in the United States and Europe. Because “material support” to a designated terrorist group is a crime, advocates insist that the money goes only to sympathizers and not to the M.E.K. itself.

Congress has taken note of the campaign. A House resolution for dropping the terrorist listing has 97 co-sponsors, including the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Mike Rogers, Republican of Michigan. At a hearing this month, senators pressed the defense secretary, Leon E. Panetta, about the threat to Camp Ashraf

Last month, Congressman Dana Robrahacher spoke in favor of removing the terrorist designation from the M.E.K.

Rep. Ted Poe (R – TX) has praised the M.E.K. as the ticket to regime change in Iran.

John Bolton spoke at an event in honor of the Mojahedin-e Khalq (MEK)

Two years ago, Rachel Slajda reported that Rudy Giuliani, Tom Bolton, and Tom Ridge had gone to Paris and spoke at an event in support of the M.E.K.

Jason Ditz has reported that The MeK’s history of terrorist attacks includes repeated attacks on US businessmen and military personnel in pre-revolution Iran, and the group was one of the founding members of the “Foreign Terrorist Organization” list when it was created by the US State Department in 1997. The group is typified by its harsh reaction to any criticism, and was reported by Human Rights Watch to have run a private system of detention centers inside Iraq to detain (and in many cases torture) dissident members.

In addition to all of this open support for a terrorist group, the Mujahedin-e Khalq (MEK) ran this ad on American television calling for its removal from the State Department’s list of terrorist organization. Former Gov. Ed Rendell, Tom Ridge, and former Mayor Rudy Guiliani are mong the people appearing in the ad. Can anyone imagine any other designated terrorist organization being allowed to purchase television advertising?

During the uproar over the Park51/Cordoba House community center last year, Rep. Peter King called for a “full investigation” of Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf because Rauf refused to publicly call Hamas a “terrorist organization.” Imam Rauf hadn’t expressed suport for a terrorist organization, he hadn’t lobbied to get it removed from a terrorist list, he hadn’t accepted money from them, or attended or spoken at their events – but simply because he hadn’t publicly called them a “terrorist organization”, Rep. King thinks he deserves a “full investigation”.

I think it is time to demand the same standards of our elected officials and representatives.

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KAZMI not Iranian.

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An irrelevant straw man, no one but a single Ha’aretz reporter in a single article said he was. I did not cite that author (until just now see below) and the report only said he was of Iranian decent. He was however a Shiite, who had worked for Iranian government news agencies since 1983 and was known for being very pro-Iran and anti-Israel. Recruitment of locals by terrorist groups and intel agencies is quite common.

MOSSAD Besides Scientists we have a false flag for you to frame IRAN..... MEK ....sounds good to us.

Except there is no evidence indicating MeK was responsible and quite a bit indicating it was sanctioned if not carried out by the Iranian government.

- Despite making generic denials and blaming Israel, the Iranian gov’t has said little about the attacks and has yet to specifically accuse MeK

- They have yet to say anything about the dozen or Iranians implicated by the Indian and Thai governments, let alone say were working for MeK.

- There is no mention of them by the various English language versions of Iranian Gov’t news agencies, and no indication the Persian versions have done so.

- Despite being citizens and residents of a country that restricts foreign travel by people suspected of being dissidents (including a former president) they made frequent foreign trips.

- RE: above, the parents of the suspect arrested in Malaysia are observing his extradition hearing in Kuala Lampur.

- Embassy officials made consular visits to the suspects held in Thailand and Malaysia and seem to be paying for the latter’s lawyer

- There is no indication the Iranians have made any effort to find the 2 suspects who returned to Tehran or the four (all Iranian) whose whereabouts are unknown.

- Iranian officials including the Supreme Leader and Interior Minister vowed revenge against Israel for the murders of the nuclear scientists.

- Kazmi seems to have travelled to Iran recently

- Kazmi is Shia, pro Iran and worked for the Iranian gov’t for decades

- Though he seems to have acquired the material for attacks in another country an apparent member of Hezbollah (an Iranian client) was arrested in Bangkok. He had tons of explosives in a warehouse.

- Azerbaijan recently arrested several Iranians it says were planning to attack Israeli targets

- One of the Iranian scientists killed might well have been the victim of an Iranian ‘false flag’, he was an opposition leader, his area of research had little to do with atomic weaponry and he participated in project in Jordan along with Israeli scientists.

- Iran has a history of targeting dissidents as well as Israeli and Saudi diplomats overseas

Mar 16

US admits Israel is arming and training terrorist groups to create terrorism

Irrelevant because as stated above all the available evidence indicates the Iranian government rather than Mossad and/or MeK and/or the CIA and/or Jundallah etc. carried out the attacks.

Meanwhile some news updates:

Sedaghatzadeh's parents attended Thursday's hearing but refused to speak to reporters. Nashir said his client's parents were "very shocked" with his arrest.

http://news.yahoo.com/iranian-malaysia-denies-thai-terror-accusations-021050754.html

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• Latest update 17:39 16.03.12

India turns to Iran for information on New Delhi terror attack

India calls in Iran's ambassador in New Delhi for meeting, informs him of identities of three Iranians suspected of involvement in February 13 attack in which wife of Israeli diplomat was wounded.

By Barak RavidTags: Iran Iran threat

India on Friday for the first time officially asked the Iranian government for information regarding three Iranian nationals suspected of involvement in the terrorist attack in New Delhi last month in which the wife of an Israeli diplomat was wounded.

The Indian Foreign Ministry announced that the Iranian ambassador in New Delhi had been summoned for a meeting on Friday during which he was informed about details of the investigation and the identities of the three Iranian nationals. The ambassador was told that an Indian court has issued arrest warrants for the three and Interpol has been contacted so that international arrest warrants can be issued.

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The pair later returned to Iran to brief the third suspect, Housan Afshar, who is believed to have actually carried out the attack. Afshar arrived in Delhi in late January of this year and checked into a hotel in the city center.

Immediately following the attack, Afshar took a flight to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia on his way back to Iran. Police later located the motorcycle that was used in the attack, which belonged to an employee of the hotel where Afshar stayed.

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http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/india-turns-to-iran-for-information-on-new-delhi-terror-attack-1.419117

A return flight ticket of one of the accused booked by Kazmi, $1,250 in cash, the scooty bought by Irani, and one passport were recovered from Kazmi's residence. Police have been examining two mobiles - one with an Iranian SIM and the other with an Indian SIM.

http://week.manoramaonline.com/cgi-bin/MMOnline.dll/portal/ep/theWeekContent.do?contentId=11231957&programId=1073754912&tabId=13

February 17, 2012

India Treads Lightly Amid Accusations Against Iran

Kurt Achin | New Delhi

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In a workaround of international sanctions, the two countries are looking at an arrangement that would permit India to purchase oil in its own currency, the rupee, deposited in an Indian bank account. The rate at which those rupees would pile up puts pressure on India to export even more of its products to Iran.

Analyst Bhaskar says the interdependency between the two countries is likely to keep bilateral diplomacy low-key if Iran is found to have a role in the attack.

"In the event that this is substantiated, I think India and Iran would have to do some quiet consultation on the subject," said Bhaskar.

Apart from economic concerns, India shares centuries of cultural ties with Iran - and perceives Iran as a crucial partner in stabilizing Afghanistan after the scheduled withdrawal of U.S.-led stabilization forces in 2014.

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/India-Treads-Lightly-Amid-Accusations-Against-Iran-139506268.html

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COLBY// Despite making generic denials and blaming Israel, the Iranian govt has said little about the attacks and has yet to specifically accuse MeK

- They have yet to say anything about the dozen or Iranians implicated by the Indian and Thai governments, let alone say were working for MeK.

- There is no mention of them by the various English language versions of Iranian Govt news agencies, and no indication the Persian versions have done so.

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Yes. MEK will blow cover and say they are MEK pretending to be Iranian Intel. MEK STUPID ,no ???

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COLBY//Kazmi is Shia, pro Iran and worked for the Iranian govt for decades

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YES.Now Mr. Karzmi, I will now behead this man in front of you.

Can I recruit you ??

Kazmi:

Sh'ma Yis'ra'eil Adonai Eloheinu Adonai echad.

Hear, Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One.

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COLBY//There is no indication the Iranians have made any effort to find the 2 suspects who returned to Tehran or the four (all Iranian) whose whereabouts are unknown.

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ALL deep wet sixed ,right off the plane.(said so twice before basically)

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COLBY// Though he seems to have acquired the material for attacks in another country an apparent member of Hezbollah (an Iranian client) was arrested in Bangkok. He had tons of explosives in a warehouse.

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THAILAND thinks not connected to this particular bombing there. (gee and u say I have strawman??)

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COLBY// Azerbaijan recently arrested several Iranians it says were planning to attack Israeli targets

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http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29537

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Gee if Israel kills co-call BOMB scientists its self defense...but if another country tries to protect itself...MR. DOUBLE STANDARD comes into room.

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The Iran War Theater's "Northern Front": Azerbaijan and the US Sponsored War on Iran

(BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN !!!! SGaal)

by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

In a timely decision, Azerbaijan recently (mid-March) granted NATO the permission to use two of its military bases and an airport to "back up its peace-keeping operation in Afghanistan" including support for NATO's "supply route to Afghanistan". NATO's special envoy Robert Simmons insists that the agreement has nothing to do with US plans to wage aerial bombardments on Iran.

Media sources in Baku have intimated that this timely agreement is directly related to ongoing US-Israeli-NATO war plans. Its timing coincides with US naval deployments and war games in the Persian Gulf.

The airport and two military bases are slated to be "modernized to meet NATO standards". Washington has confirmed in this regard that it would "support the modernization of a military airport in the framework of the Individual Partnership Action Plan (IPAP) signed between Azerbaijan and NATO.

Meanwhile, the Defense Ministry of Azerbaijan released a statement to the effect that "Azerbaijan's territory will not be at the disposal of any country for hostile acts against neighbours [iran] " (See Mardom Salari (Farsi), BBC translation, 5 April 2007).

This announcement by the Azeri Defense Ministry was in response to an off-the-cuff statement by US Undersecretary of State Matthew Bryza, at a press conference in Georgia (March 30) to the effect that "The United States hopes for permission to use airfields in Azerbaijan for military purposes." (emphasis added)

"A lot of planes overfly Georgia and Azerbaijan on the way to Afghanistan. Should it prove necessary, we would like to be able to use an airfield in Azerbaijan," the US diplomat said, answering a question concerning the modernization of a military airfield in Azerbaijan with the Americans' help. (Nezavisimaya Gazeta, April 2, 2007)

According to Azerbaijani political scientist, Zardusht Alizade, the NATO/US military agreement with the Baku government pertains to several Azeri airfields, which could be used to receive and service US/NATO aircraft:

"Baku may also help the United States with data on ballistic missile defense'... Moreover, the words of the Azerbaijani authorities do not always match their deeds, and the statement of the Defense Ministry may be anything but the last word on the subject. "If the US Administration appeals to Aliyev and the latter summons the courage to turn the request down, all the better for him," Alizade said. "I do not really think that he will want to peeve Washington." According to the political scientist, the consequences of this step may be quite dire. Tehran has already proclaimed its readiness to strike at strategic objects nearby which are important for the United States. "Iranian capacities are not to be underestimated. A single division of its armed forces can occupy all of Azerbaijan without a second thought. I only hope that this is some sort of political game and that the United States does not really intend to strike at Iran," Alizade said" (Nezavisimaya Gazeta, April 2, 2007) (emphasis added)

Strategic Caspian Sea Maritime Border with Iran

Azerbaijan is also strategic in view of its maritime border with Iran in the Caspian sea. In this regard, the U.S. Navy is involved in supporting the Azeri Navy, in the area of training. There is also an agreement to provide US support to refurbish Azeri warships in the Caspian sea.

The US sponsored Caspian Guard Initiative was launched in 2003 to "coordinate activities in Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan with those of U.S. Central Command and other U.S government agencies to enhance Caspian security." The initiative was implemented under the cover of preventing narcotics trafficking and counter- terrorism, Its ultimate objective, however, is to provide USCENTCOM with a strategic naval corridor in the Caspian sea basin.

The US has also participated in joint Naval exercises with the Azeri Armys 641st Special Warfare Naval Unit, headquartered at the Azeri Naval Station outside Baku.

More generally, both the US and NATO are in the process of deepening their military cooperation with Azerbaijan. In recent developments, military-political consultations between the US and Azerbaijan are scheduled to be held in Washington in the second half of April, according to a US Embassy source in Baku. (APA News, 4 April 2007)

"the consultations will cover issues on strategic cooperation, Azerbaijan-NATO relations, the mutual activity of both countries in Iraq and Afghanistan and some other issues.[iran] (ibid)

The timing of these consultations is crucial. They coincide chronologically with a process of advanced military planning.

Azerbaijan could be the object of retaliatory strikes by Iran, if the country's military bases are used by NATO-US forces as a launch pad for waging war on Iran.

Media sources in Baku have suggested that retaliatory bombings by Iran could include Azeri oil fields and oil and gas pipelines. The strategic Baku-Ceyhan pipeline, which links the Caspian Sea to the Eastern Mediterranean could also be a target. The Baku Ceyan pipeline is controlled by an Anglo-American consortium led by British Petroleum (BP).

In early April, Iran deployed troops and military hardware along the Iranian-Azerbaijani border. According to an April 4 report of the Azerbaijani news agency Turan:

"Military experts think that the deployment of troops and hardware pursue defence ends. This means that the troops are being pushed forward to repel attacks... The start of an information [propaganda] war is obvious. An intelligence expert has told Turan that recent publications in the media saying that Iran has drawn up a list of facilities in Azerbaijan that will be bombed in case of a US attack [on Iran] are a glaring example of this. Most likely, the reports were prepared and passed to the mass media by the Iranian secret services to exert psychological pressure on Baku. The goal is to deter Baku from supporting Washington in a military conflict with Tehran. (Turan, 4 April 2007) (emphasis added)

The Iran War Theater's "Northern Front"

US and allied naval deployments are concentrated in the Persian Gulf and the Eastern Mediterranean. The March NATO/US agreement with Baku, while building upon previous military cooperation agreements, specifically reinforces what might be described as a "Northern Front" whereby Azeri military bases including airfields and naval facilities in the Caspian sea would be used by NATO and US forces in the case of US sponsored attacks on Iran.

If this were to occur, several Central Asian countries could be drawn into the conflict, leading to a process of military escalation. The latter could also extend into a ground war in which Iran would target US, British and NATO facilities in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Clinton In Azerbaijan: Testing Waters For Attack On Iran

Will Iran attack Azerbaijan and Tbilisi in case of an air-strike?

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Both U.S. and Israel have long had plans for a military strike on Iran, this is not new. However, now, considering the latest events, a military operation against Iran is quite possible, said Azerbaijani political expert Z. Alizadeh, commenting on a possible U.S.-Israel air strike on Iran, from Azerbaijani and Georgian territory.

"If Azerbaijan and Georgia will allow that the air strike will happen from their territories, then who said Iran will not fire back? So, the question is, do we really need all this? Azerbaijan does not need to get into these issues", said Alizadeh.

Another Azerbaijani political expert Fikrat Sadikhov believes, that Azerbaijan should not join the anti-Iranian coalition.

"I cannot speak for the Georgian side, but as far as Azerbaijan goes, no one would really want Azerbaijani-Iranian relations to get worse. Since the very beginning, Azerbaijan expressed a very solid, neutral position on issues related to this. Baku will not participate in anti-Iranian actions. Iran is a neighboring country to us, besides there are lots of Azerbaijanis living there, so there's no interest for Azerbaijan to act like that", Sadiknov explained.

Russian expert Alexei Vlasov thinks this whole "military operation on Iran" is nothing more, than a rumor.

"I have big doubts that Azerbaijani government, which always thinks first, and acts second, will allow such air strike from its territory. This kind of move goes against the diplomacy of Azerbaijani president Ilham Aliyev. The upcoming Clinton visit to Baku is a way to get Azerbaijan to answer one question - how would it behave, if a strike on Iran will happen? I think, Ilham Aliyev will find a way to maintain a much needed balance." said Vlasov.

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Azerbaijan: Mafia State

by Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich

A 2009 U.S. embassy political dispatch compared Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev to a mafia crime boss. An apt comparison given that Aliyev and the Azeri political elite have been living under the protection of the Capo Crimini Israel . The protection does not come cheap; and the manufacture of the recent lie -- the arrest of 22 Azerbaijani citizens allegedly trained in Iran to carry out terrorist acts against the U.S. and Israel , is the latest protection payment.

Capo Criminis protection is noteworthy. Aliyev, a corrupt dictator who came to power through election fraud in 2003, managed to make his rounds in Washington in 2006, including a private meeting with President Bush, thanks to the full weight of the Israeli lobby in Washington . The promotion of the Azeri cause in Washington by the Israeli lobby (which included lobbying against Armenians), reinforced the notion that the way to Washington leads through Jerusalem 1 while benefitting various players - to the detriment of some others.

Although much of Israel s oil comes from Azerbaijan , Israel was more interested in the control of the oil. With this in mind, despite the fact that oil companies in the Caspian region favored the much shorter and cheaper oil pipeline that would transit Iran, Israel relentlessly pushed for the alternate, more expensive and impractical Baku-Tblisi-Cehan pipeline which pipeline had over 1000 miles of it going through mountainous territory bypassing Russia and Armenia. This expensive venture also served to send the message to Turkey that alliance with Israel pays off.

Lord Browne, former chief executive of BP, was quoted as saying that the whole scheme was launched in the interest of Israel.2 Brenda Shafffer who was instrumental in promoting the pipeline, put it this way: There's growing demand in Asia . If Israel is clever about it, it could market this not only commercially but also politically in a way that could improve regional security and stability." (JTA, NY , Oct 21, 2005). Shaffer is also of the opinion that Caspian oil (specifically non-OPEC members Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan ) makes Saudi Arabia and the OPEC cartel nervous because they do not coordinate their policies with the cartel.

These plans were made possible thanks to the aftermath of September 11. 9/11 changed everything as a leading Azeri foreign policy specialist opined: "But the situation changed after Sept. 11, with American presence in Central Asia, Georgia and Azerbaijan ," he explains. "Our being under the shadow of America means Russia and Iran will not meddle. We are able to be more courageous." (Greene, Richard Allen. Jewish Telegraphic Agency. New York :Apr 29, 2002. p. 4)

More courageous, perhaps but the newfound courage lacks rationale and the needs of the people of Azerbaijan have been neglected. Asim Mollazadeh, first Chairperson of the Party for Democratic Reforms prominent Azeri opposition candidate, states that Azerbaijan receives only 10 percent of oil loyalties. He argues that with 42 percent of the country living below poverty lines, the oil income does not trickle down.3 A heavy price to pay for Washington to feign welcome to the Azeri dictator.

In 2002, JTA reported that Israel 's ambassador to Azerbaijan had a favorite local joke: "Are you Jewish? No, I just look intelligent." (JTA Apr 29, 2002). Insulting as the joke may be, inarguably, actions which alienate the Russians, compete with Saudis, and magically pull 22 Iran-linked terrorists out of a hat do not look intelligent.

Soraya Sepahpour-Ulrich has a Masters degree in Public Diplomacy from USC Annenberg for Communication and Journalism and USC School of International Relations. She is an independent researcher and writer with a focus on U.S. foreign policy and the role of lobby groups in influencing US foreign policy.

Notes

1 Netty C. Gross; The Azeri Triangle, The Jerusalem Post, July 10, 2006, p. 24

2 Cited by Andrew l. Killgore, Ideology Trumps Economic Efficiency, as The Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan Pipeline Opens, The Washington Report on Middle East Affair, Aug 2005, Vol. 24, iss. 6, p.32

3 Netty C. Gross; The Azeri Triangle

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Bombers detained chief may be brought to Delhi

Mar 18, 2012, 02.06AM Times India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Bombers-detained-chief-may-be-brought-to-Delhi/articleshow/12310757.cms

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NEW DELHI: Breaking her silence on the police's attempt to link her family with the Iranian blast suspects, arrested journalist SMA Kazmi's wife, Jahan, on Saturday claimed the large foreign remittances into their bank accounts were made by their Dubai-based children. The police had alleged that Kazmi and his wife received Rs 3.8 lakh and Rs 18.8 lakh in their accounts since early 2011 from suspected Iranian sources.

While the Enforcement Directorate and the Financial Investigation Unit (FIU) have been asked to probe these remittances, Delhi Police claim to have established a direct link between Houshang Afshar Irani, the Iranian accused of sticking the bomb to an Israeli diplomat's car on February 13, and Sedaghatzadeh Masoud, the operational head of the bombers' group who was detained at the Kuala Lumpur airport just hours after the Bangkok blast a day later.

Sources said an open warrant has been issued against Masoud and he is expected to arrive in the city from Malaysia by the end of next week. The six-member group had begun planning the attacks in early 2011 but started the ground work only in the last six months. The probe has found that although Masoud headed the group's operations, another Iranian, Seyed Ali Mahdiansadr, was the main conspirator. He visited both Delhi and Bangkok and is now believed to be in Iran.

"Our investigations show that Irani took the first Malaysian Airlines flight out of the city on February 13 for Kuala Lumpur, hours after he planted the bomb. He had checked in by early evening," said a police officer. Irani reportedly brought the magnetic plate of the bomb from Iran 15 days before the blast. He also sourced the explosives locally and remained in contact with Masoud all through. "We believe they even met in Kuala Lumpur before Masoud's detention,'' added an investigator.

The police claimed Masoud was informed about the success of the Delhi attack and gave the go-ahead for the Bangkok blast after this. They also believe the conspiracy to carry out blasts in Delhi, Bangkok and Tbilisi was only intended to grab eyeballs.

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MOSSAD IN DUBAI ...opps use British IDs ...ooops. Could MOSSAD ever,ever pretend to be IRANIAN......ever ?????

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hisham-wyne/a-mossad-killing-in-dubai_b_466247.html

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Bombers’ detained chief may be brought to Delhi

Mar 18, 2012, 02.06AM Times India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Bombers-detained-chief-may-be-brought-to-Delhi/articleshow/12310757.cms

I have no idea why you think this supports you're take on the case.

MOSSAD IN DUBAI ...opps use British IDs ...ooops. Could MOSSAD ever,ever pretend to be IRANIAN......ever ?????

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hisham-wyne/a-mossad-killing-in-dubai_b_466247.html

Using fake ID is one thing, a group of Mossad agents convincing about a dozen Iranians (in Iran) they are really Iranian intel agents and recruit them for overseas missions is exponentially more complicated. Get back to us when you can cite an example of the Mossad doing that.

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COLBY// Despite making generic denials and blaming Israel, the Iranian gov’t has said little about the attacks and has yet to specifically accuse MeK

- They have yet to say anything about the dozen or Iranians implicated by the Indian and Thai governments, let alone say were working for MeK.

- There is no mention of them by the various English language versions of Iranian Gov’t news agencies, and no indication the Persian versions have done so.

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Yes. MEK will blow cover and say they are MEK pretending to be Iranian Intel. MEK STUPID ,no ???

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Who said anything about, “MEK will blow cover and say they are MEK pretending to be Iranian Intel”? You’d think that after over a month if there was any indication they were associated with MeK or any other anti-Iranian group Iranian intel would turned something up. In the very least they could have said ‘Leila Rohani and Javad Nikkahfard etc. were not working for us we have not yet determined who recruited them’

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COLBY//Kazmi is Shia, pro Iran and worked for the Iranian gov’t for decades

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YES.Now Mr. Karzmi, I will now behead this man in front of you.

Can I recruit you ??

Kazmi:

Sh'ma Yis'ra'eil Adonai Eloheinu Adonai echad.

Hear, Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One.

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I have no idea what you are rantabbling about!

COLBY//There is no indication the Iranians have made any effort to find the 2 suspects who returned to Tehran or the four (all Iranian) whose whereabouts are unknown.

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ALL deep wet sixed ,right off the plane.(said so twice before basically)

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We’re going in circles aren’t we? We've been over this already. Do you understand the difference between looking and finding? At the very least they could have divulged their, names, photos and other details. This seems not to have happened.

COLBY// Though he seems to have acquired the material for attacks in another country an apparent member of Hezbollah (an Iranian client) was arrested in Bangkok. He had tons of explosives in a warehouse.

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THAILAND thinks not connected to this particular bombing there. (gee and u say I have strawman??)

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Do you have a citation for that? The case indicates a client of Iranian intel. was active in Bangkok shortly before the attacks. I never said they had to be connected strawboy.

COLBY// Azerbaijan recently arrested several Iranians it says were planning to attack Israeli targets

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When have I ever defended Mossad’s murder of Iranian scientists? Mr. Strawman. So what is your position now, ‘Iran didn’t do it but if they did, they were justified’? Do you understand the difference between revenge and self-defense?

The Iran War Theater's "Northern Front": Azerbaijan and the US Sponsored War on Iran

(BOMB BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN !!!! SGaal)

by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

In a timely decision, Azerbaijan recently (mid-March) granted NATO the permission to use two of its

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So your thesis is that because Azerbaijan is pro-West and friendly with Israel we are to dismiss the arrest of the Iranians as a set up? Iran and Azerbaijan seem to have had good relations until recently.

http://www.iraniangas.ir/Site.aspx?ParTree=11131E&LnkIdn=80118

The part about the pipeline route being changed is silly and poorly sourced. The distance from Baku to Ceyhan (Turkey) and to a potential oil terminal in Iran are roughly the same and the former is a lot closer to Europe. Due to Iran’s ‘complicated’ relationship with the West especially the US it seems unlikely Western companies would invest in a pipeline through that country. The article mentioned BP which after acquiring Amoco and the British company that owned Castrol in 2000 was an Anglo-American company. I mentioned that the Caucus route was mountainous but so would have been one through Iran.

Your failure to address 7 of my 14 points duly noted

Meanwhile more news updates:

Delhi car blast: Bomber flew to Iran from Malaysia

Last Updated: Monday, March 19, 2012, 00:03

New Delhi: Houshang Afshar, an Iranian national alleged to be involved in bombing of Israeli envoy's vehicle here last month, flew to Tehran after spending a day in Malaysia apparently waiting for his accomplices in Bangkok.

According to the investigation report sent by the Malaysian authorities, the bomber arrived at Kuala Lumpur and is believed to have waited for his accomplices who were planning to carry out a similar attack in the Thai capital.

As the news about the botched up plan in Bangkok hit the television screen, Afshar left for Tehran in the intervening night of February 14 and 15, according to the investigation report shared by the foreign authorities with India. The bomb attack here occurred on February 13.

The phone book of Masoud Sedaghatzadeh, who was arrested by the Malaysian police from Kuala Lumpur airport, led sleuths comprising officials from external and internal security agencies to Indian journalist Syed Mohammed Ahmed Kazmi from where the entire conspiracy started unravelling.

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According to sources privy to the probe conducted in India, Malaysia and Thailand and also on the basis of the statement of Kazmi to Delhi Police, the spate of attacks planned in New Delhi, Bangkok and Georgia was to take revenge on attacks on Iranian scientists since 2009.

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COLBY// Who said anything about, “MEK will blow cover and say they are MEK pretending to be Iranian Intel”? You’d think that after over a month if there was any indication they were associated with MeK or any other anti-Iranian group Iranian intel would turned something up. In the very least they could have said ‘Leila Rohani and Javad Nikkahfard etc. were not working for us we have not yet determined who recruited them’

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POST #53 this thread COLBY (himself)//

Your link is broken Einnarr, in any case I already replied:

As for the Cartalucci piece why didn’t you provide the link to the original on Infowars? Did you think the IrishtimeZ (as opposed to the IrishtimeS) URL would lend it a bit more respectability? The Alex Jones protégé offered little more that rampant speculation. He implied that the Thai government was in cahoots with the Israelis but provided no evidence. He also wrote:

However, what appears to have taken place in Bangkok, and what appears to be the case unfolding in India and Georgia as well, was a false-flag operation carried out by Mossad and Farsi-speaking MEK agents posing as Iranian Quds operatives who approached potential patsies. These patsies were trained and provided with faulty equipment to carry out these attacks. After making their respective failed attempts, the patsies would incriminate themselves and Tehran by attempting to return to Iran, or confess upon capture and interrogation that they were working for who they believed to be Quds operatives.

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COLBY//

We’re going in circles aren’t we? We've been over this already. Do you understand the difference between looking and finding? At the very least they could have divulged their, names, photos and other details. This seems not to have happened.

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COLBY

What explanation can there be for this other than the operation WAS government approved?

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part one = (previous Posting) GAAL//ANSWER /+/ embarrassment,embarrassment,embarrassment. (later 100% (Iran government) in dark)

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wikipedia

BUSY Airports....... cant monitor all these people.

Iran’s airports are improving their international connections, and Arak Airport in Markazi province has recently begun to operate international flights, making a total of five such airports in the country, in addition to ten local airports.[16] In May 2007 international flights into the capital, Tehran, were moved to the Imam Khomeini International Airport (IKIA), just outside the city because of capacity constraints at the existing central Mehrabad Airport.

Airports: 316

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COLBY// Re: (Though he seems to have acquired the material for attacks in another country an apparent member of Hezbollah (an Iranian client) was arrested in Bangkok. He had tons of explosives in a warehouse.)

Do you have a citation for that? The case indicates a client of Iranian intel. was active in Bangkok shortly before the attacks. I never said they had to be connected strawboy.

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Who's Behind Anti-Israel Bomb Plots? | Consortiumnews | TURKISH ...

turkishcentralnews.com/

Mar 3, 2012 by editor

Last month, when three bomb plots surfaced in India, Thailand and Georgia — all with apparent Israeli targets — the immediate assumption was that Iran was seeking revenge for Israeli-connected assassinations of Iranian scientists. .... supplies of urea fertilizer and ammonium nitrate, which are ingredients in bombs, but Thai investigators concluded that they were not connected to any terror plot in Thailand, because of the absence of any other bomb components.

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COLBY// So your thesis is that because Azerbaijan is pro-West and friendly with Israel we are to dismiss the arrest of the Iranians as a set up? Iran and Azerbaijan seem to have had good relations until recently.

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re(Azerbaijan recently arrested several Iranians it says were planning to attack Israeli targets)

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GAAL// MY THESIS == as previously stated, that IRAN wouldnt attack in these particular countries.This started my false flag thinking. (if they did its toooo stupid for words) Ive shown that IRAN does have capabilities in "OTHER !!" places.

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COLBY// When have I ever defended Mossad’s murder of Iranian scientists?

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"But the Israeli government has been able to take advantage of the credulity of the news media to cover up the irrationality of its terrorism."

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How Mossad Justified Its Murder of an Innocent Iranian Electrical Engineer

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Saturday 17 March 2012 http://www.truth-out...neer/1331747276

by: Gareth Porter, Truthout | News Analysis

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On July 23, 2011, a 35-year-old Iranian electrical engineering student named Darioush Rezaeinejad was gunned down as he and his wife, who was also wounded in the attack, waited for their child in front of a kindergarten in Tehran.

Israel has never denied that it was behind that assassination, and two senior US officials have confirmed to NBC news that the accusation by Ali Larijani - a senior adviser to Iran's supreme leader Ali Khamenei - that Israel's Mossad had used the Mujahideen E. Khalq (MEK) to carry out the killing of Iranian scientists was essentially accurate.

Rezaeinejad was the fourth Iranian scientist whom the Israelis had tried to assassinate, but what was different about his assassination is the subsequent effort by the Israelis to justify it after the fact. That effort casts new light not only on the larger assassination campaign, but on the way in which Israel has gone about constructing its contention that there is an active Iranian nuclear weapons program.

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