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Since we are on the subject of strange coincidences here...

I was doing a search for documents related to "Oliver Sawyer Hallett" and found this copy of 'The Phillipian', school newspaper of Phillips Academy in Andover, from June 12, 1942.

http://pdf.phillipian.net/1942/06121942.pdf

There is a note at the top of page 4 that says: "A Yale-Andover Honorary Scholarship, $700: Oliver Sawyer Hallett, Greenwich, Conn." so evidently he was a senior that year and got a scholarship to attend Yale.

But while flipping through the PDF I also see this on Page 3: "Outstanding for Andover this season was Poppy Bush at first base, who was brilliant on the field". There are several other mentions of Poppy Bush in the paper, including a picture on page 8.

So wait...the same guy who met LHO at the American Embassy in Moscow, AND was in the White House Situation Room when JFK was assassinated, ALSO went to the same prep school (and was accepted to the same university) as GEORGE H.W. BUSH?! And they appeared to be in the same senior class at Phillips Academy in 1942?

I know it's a small world, but...

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And here's another interesting story about LCDR Oliver S. Hallett from one of his former crew-mates (Robert F. Marble) on board the USS Piper, where he was Executive Officer (XO).

http://webpages.char...seastories.html

PIPER made its first "cold war" patrol around the Faroe Islands during the "Jerusalem Crisis" at the end of 1957, and we carried reel-to-reel tape recorders, monitoring USSR radio traffic, whenever the seas permitted us to get the snorkel whip antenna up.

Barney D. Wixom, RMC(SS) and the XO would stay up all night listening to the tapes in Russian. The XO was a "spook"....

A "spook"? CIA? ONI? Would be interesting to know what Mr. Marble thought was happening.

-Chris

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Guest Tom Scully

There is a good chance Joan Salmon Hallett is still living, there is no SSDI search result for her name,:

http://stevemorse.org/ssdi/ssdi.html

Family details; Oliver Sawyer Hallett and Joan Ellen Salmon :

Nancy Handy, Former Student at Westover, BetrOthed to Leut...

New York Times - Jan 15, 1943

Nancy, to Lieutenant James Brewster Hallett, US -., of New York, son of ]VIrs. Frank Mansfield Taylor of Boston and the late LuCius Felt Hallett of Denver. ....The ushers were....brothers of the bride; Oliver Sawyer Hallett, brother of the bridegroom; ..... Lieutenant Hallett is a grandson of the late Federal Judge Moses Hallett of Denver and of the late Dr. Oscar J. Pfeiffer, also of Denver, one-time chief surgeon of the Union Pacific Railroad.

TO WED IN JUNE

‎Chicago Tribune - Mar 3, 1946

Miss Joan Ellen Salmon, whose engagement to Midshipman Oliver Sawyer Hallett, son of Mrs. Genevieve Taylor of Boston, Mass., is announced by her father, Louis J. Salmon of Dorchester av. Miss Salmon attended the University of Chicago.

OBITUARIES

Boston Globe - Nov 8, 1967

OBITUARIES Mrs. Genevieve (Pfeiffer) Taylor, 80, of the College Club, Boston, and Three ... Her first husband Lucius Hallett an electrical engineer died in 1940.

ArchiveGrid: Frank M. Taylor papers 1901-1930.

http://beta.worldcat.org/archivegrid/record.php?id=69155646&contributor=1073&archivename=Denver+Museum+of+Nature+and+Science+-+Alfred+M.+Bailey+Library+and+ArchivesFrank Mansfield Taylor, an early Colorado Museum of Natural History Trustee ... Lida Taylor died in 1924, and in 1928 Taylor married Genevieve Hallett. During

22 MORE ENSIGNS WED IN ANNAPOLIS; Chapels at Academy and...

City Churches Scenes of Nuptials Day After Graduation

New York Times - Jun 7, 1946

Joan E. Salmon of Chicago to Oliver S. Hallett of Dover, NH Miss Martha J. Whitfield of Tampa, F la., to Delbert W. Nordburg of Orlando, Fla. Miss Iylarianne Hau ..

Obituary 1 -- No Title

Chicago Tribune - Oct 8, 1965

Louis J. Salmon Funeral services for Louis J. Salmon, 85, a former Chicago- an and retired vice president and chief engineer for the SA Healy company construction firm, were held recentlv in Liberty, NY Mr. Saimon died Sept. 27 in Liberty, where he had lived since his retire- ment 10 years ago.

As an en- gineer, he helped build the Chi- cago subway system. He also was a football player at the University of Notre Dame.

Sur- vivors are his widow, Paula: two sons, John L. and Martin A.; a daughter, Mrs . Joan Hallett; a brother; and nine grandchildren.

Re: Louis J. SALMON Family: Ireland, New York, Michigan Posted: 27 Dec 2010 2:50AM

May (Tom Scully comment: Error, May is John L.'s Wife, Not Lou's) and Lou had three children; John Louis (1918), Martin Arthur (1922), and Joan Ellen (1923).

http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=555&p=surnames.salmon

Daniel Salmon married in 1835 and lived in Coolderry, Tipperary near his wife's family(Uriel). This is tiny community a couple miles east of Nenagh on Limerick-Dublin Road. He is listed as tenent farmer in Griffth's valuation. I have written a narrative of Salmons from Ireland through my husbands parents, N.Y.-WIsconsin,( JOhn was my father in law's first cousin) Still have yet to include all documentation at end so it is not complete.

1. Daniel 2.Martin William 3.Louis John 4.John Louis

John Salmon graduated from Massachusetts Institute of Technology in Civil Engineering, married a friend of his sister Joan and raised his family in Chicago. John married Mary Hunding. They raised four girls,.....

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1988-12-25/news/8802270155_1_moles-engineering-organizations-working

John L. Salmon

December 25, 1988

Mass for John L. Salmon, 70, a civil engineer who worked on many major Chicago construction projects, will be said at 10:30 a.m. Tuesday in St. Philip Neri Catholic Church, 2132 E. 72th St. Mr. Salmon, who was working on the Deep Tunnel project at the time of his death, died Friday in his South Shore home. A graduate of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, he helped build Chicago Transit Authority subway lines and local bridges while working for S.A. Healy Construction Co. and two other construction firms....

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2006-12-07/news/0612070076_1_sargent-lundy-degree-in-civil-engineering

Martin Arthur Salmon: 1922 - 2006 Engineer helped design nuclear power plants

December 07, 2006

....Other survivors include his wife of 59 years, Marion; a daughter, Betsy Miller; a sister, Joan Salmon Hallett; four grandchildren; and a great-granddaughter.

Death Notice: MARION JANE SALMON

Chicago Tribune - Oct 20, 2007

... Miller; her grandchildren, Elizabeth (Greg) Laurence, [Martin A. Salmon]. ... Gretchen; a brother, Hillier L. Baker; a sister-in-law, Joan Salmon Hallett; and ...

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Shreveport is a popular place, popping up often in this research, FWIW..... So are Phillips Andover and Bush ...

Obituary 2 -- No Title

New York Times - Jun 5, 1940

OliverSawyerHallettFatherLuciusObitJune5_1940NYtimes.jpg

OBITUARIES

‎Boston Globe - Nov 8, 1967

Her first husband Lucius Hallett an electrical engineer died in 1940. ... Co and Cmdr Oliver Taylor at Key West Fla daughter Mrs Katherine Sutton of Shreveport

LUCIUS HALLETT, 74; WAS STOCKBROKER

‎Boston Globe - Nov 25, 1984

... both of Dover; four brothers, John F. of Kittery Point , Maine, James B. of Dover and Boston, Moses D. of Cazadero, Calif., and Capt. Oliver S. Hallett of Hinsdale, Ill.; a sister, Genevieve H. Sutton of Shrevesport, La.;

It seems likely the sister of Oliver Sawyer Hallett is 92 years old Shreveport resident, Genevieve Katherine Sutton, a Vassar College graduate in 1942, and the widow of Dr. John Benjamin Sutton, a Shreveport neurosurgeon from Watertown, NY, who died of a heart attack in March, 1957 at age 38, leaving his widow and six children.

St. Louis Post-Dispatch : JOHN F. HALLETT, 85

St. Louis Post-Dispatch - Aug 6, 1988

A memorial service for John F. Hallett, a former senior vice president at the old ... and Oliver S. Hallett of Chicago; and a sister, Mrs. John Sutton of Shreveport, La.

Old Fulton NY Post Cards By Tom Tryniski - FultonHistory

fultonhistory.com/.../...SHREVEPORT, La. </P>*-Funeral services were to be held here to- day for Dr, John B: Sutton,'38, a neurosurgeon, who died yesterday of a heart attack. He was

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Since we are on the subject of strange coincidences here...

I was doing a search for documents related to "Oliver Sawyer Hallett" and found this copy of 'The Phillipian', school newspaper of Phillips Academy in Andover, from June 12, 1942.

http://pdf.phillipia...42/06121942.pdf

There is a note at the top of page 4 that says: "A Yale-Andover Honorary Scholarship, $700: Oliver Sawyer Hallett, Greenwich, Conn." so evidently he was a senior that year and got a scholarship to attend Yale.

But while flipping through the PDF I also see this on Page 3: "Outstanding for Andover this season was Poppy Bush at first base, who was brilliant on the field". There are several other mentions of Poppy Bush in the paper, including a picture on page 8.

So wait...the same guy who met LHO at the American Embassy in Moscow, AND was in the White House Situation Room when JFK was assassinated, ALSO went to the same prep school (and was accepted to the same university) as GEORGE H.W. BUSH?! And they appeared to be in the same senior class at Phillips Academy in 1942?

I know it's a small world, but...

Thanks for that tidbit Chris, I'll pass it on to Russ Baker and see what he makes of it.

Tom's input also absorbed.

Thanks,

BK

JFKcountercoup

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I've noticed a couple of things which may or may not be pertinent. When Marguerite Oswald traveled

to Washington at the time of the Warren Commission Hearings, a Secret Service agent flew on the

plane with her, he was J.J. Hallett.

see excerpt below

Oswald's Mother Flies to Capital

by Kent Biffle

page 1, Dallas Morning News

February 10, 1964

Mrs. Marguerite Oswald- one of the few persons who don’t believe her son

killed President Kennedy- left for Washington Sunday night.......

Forrest Sorrels, Special Agent in Charge of the Dallas Secret Service office-

supervised as Mrs. Oswald boarded the plane. One agent identified as J. J.

Hallett, accompanied her on the flight.........

There was also a Mr. and Mrs. H. P. Hallett, 3248 Hanover, Dallas, Texas circa 1965 probably before, who are listed

in a couple of articles flying to Japan and elsewhere, may be a dead end especially if there is no

familial relationship with Oliver Hallett, although there was a Mrs. Leslie who lived on Hanover, and spoke Russian with Marina Oswald.

LESLIE, HELEN (MRS.)

Sources: WC Vol 8, p. 469; WC Vol 26, p. 760; CE 3116

Mary's Comments: Her daughter is Natalia Krassokova. Mrs. Leslie and her stepdaughter live on Hanover in 1964. She speaks Russian and knows George deMohrenschildt well. She also met LHO.

https://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/marysdb/showRec.do?id=5810

LESLIE, WARREN -----

Sources: WC Vol 23, p. 634; CE 1862; CD 932, p. 3

Mary's

Comments: Neiman-Marcus public relations Vice President who moved to New York. Yaeko Okui lived in the Leslie's Dallas home in the spring of 1963.

https://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/marysdb/showRec.do?id=5810

Last is an obituary below from Dallas, seems like a possibility.

I included Oliver Hallett's obit for convenience sake.

Ex-navy Capt. Oliver Hallett

Supervised Great Lakes Recruits

October 31, 1992|By Kenan Heise.

Oliver Sawyer Hallett, 68, a retired captain in the Navy, was the commanding officer in charge of recruits at Great Lakes Naval Base in the early 1970s, then the largest naval training command in the country.

A resident of Hinsdale for the last 10 years, he died Friday at home.

``He really cared about people,`` his daughter-in-law, Jackie Lustig, said.

``He was very intelligent and had integrity. A lot of people are going to remember him.``

Capt. Hallett, who was born in Denver, graduated from Phillips Academy in Andover, Mass., and from the U.S. Naval Academy.

He served in the submarine command and received the Legion of Merit, the highest non-combat medal awarded by the Navy.

Capt. Hallett was a White House naval assistant in the terms of Presidents John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson.

He also served in diplomatic assignments in the former Soviet Union and in the Federal Republic of Germany.

When he was at Great Lakes, his command included 300 officers and 15,000 recruits. He was there from 1972 until he retired in 1975.

Survivors include his wife, Joan; a son, Christopher; two daughters, Carolyn Maginnis and Polly Kawalek; five grandchildren; a brother; and a sister.

Mass for Capt. Hallett will be said at 10 a.m. Monday in St. Isaac Jogues Catholic Church, 5th and Clay Streets, Hinsdale.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992-10-31/news/9204080691_1_naval-academy-command-recruits

New York Times, The (NY) - August 18, 1987

Dallas Morning News, The (TX) - August 20, 2008

Deceased Name: Hallett , Barbara

Hallett, Barbara Barbara Ester HALLETT, 96 yrs., died at Renaissance Hospital Dallas Texas, 18 AUG 2008. Born in Coronation, (Kilburn), New Brunswick, Canada. She moved to the U.S.A in 1929 and became an American Citizen. She worked for many years at the VOUGHT Air Craft Manufacturing Company as a secretary. She was the last surviving member of her immediate family having been predeceased by her father & Mother: Emery Austin - HALLETT, (1937) & Ester Elizabeth (JACKSON), (1939). She was also predeceased by her brother Cecil HALLETT, (1952) and sisters: Olga BISHOP, (1966) Mabel SMITH, (1976) and Alice HILL, (1987). Barbara never married but was loved and cherished by many Nieces & Nephews, & Grand Nieces & Nephews. She loved her family, was kind and generous to all and had a special love of animals. She will be lovingly remembered and greatly missed. Dallas Laurel Land 214-371-1336 laurellandfuneralhome.com

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Robert, you may find this helpful, since grandfather, Judge Moses Hallett (born 1834) is the source of the Hallett name in this instance. He is named in the bottom of this rather detailed description of his ancestors and how he came to be born in Galena, IL. :

http://genealogytrai...biohallett.html

.......In 1816 Moses Hallett and John Bancroft went from Barnstable, Massachusetts, to Howard County, Missouri, the journey occupying seventy-six days. After a short time Mr. Hallett returned to Massachusetts to claim his bride, who was a native of Hyannis. To quote a recent writer: “The trials and hardships, suffering and self-denial of the old frontiersmen has passed into history. * * * But the women of that early day were the ones who exercised the greater courage and fortitude. And great, indeed, must have been the love and adoration of those women for their husbands when they voluntarily severed all ties and associations of childhood and home, and, amid tears and lamentations, went forth into the great unknown country. Such a woman was Eunace Crowell, and when she became the wife of Moses Hallett and started with her husband for his new home, she knew she had said good-bye forever to her birthplace, to home, kindred and friends. ” In 1826 they removed to Shullsburg, Wisconsin, to join the miners who were clustering in that locality. Five years later they settled in Jo Davies County, Illinois, which then extended from the river to Dixon. Mr. Hallett became the first High Sheriff of that county, and was also the first to engage in farming within its present borders. He was active in the suppression of the Indian insurrection under Blackhawk. He engaged in trade, and traveled much upon the Mississippi River, and was one of the first to get out and ship walnut timber to Philadelphia and Cincinnati. The logs were shipped by the river to New Orleans, and thence by ocean vessel to Philadelphia. It was while on one of these trips that he was seized with cholera, in 1847, and died, being buried at Bennett’s Landing, Illinois, a few miles below St. Louis, Missouri. His widow continued to reside at “Glen Farm,” near Galena, and passed away at her son’s home in Galena in the ‘60s. The subject of this biography was the eldest of their children; Timothy, the second, is a prominent citizen of Galena; Bartlett died several years since at Mount Carroll; Lucy is the wife of Samuel Snyder, of Lena, Illinois; and Moses is Judge of the United States District Court of Colorado, at Denver. ....

I posted that Oliver S Hallet's brother (Deceased in 1988) was John F., "....a former senior vice president at the old First National Bank in St. Louis," It is doubtful that this is the SS agent, in 1964, J. J. Hallett.

I posted an image of the 1940 Obit of Oliver S Hallett's father, Lucius Felt Hallet, displaying the names of his six children.

If you want to attempt to link or to rule out the names you posted, it would be necessary to find the names of Lucius Felt Hallett's brothers, the sons of Judge Moses Hallett. We now have the names of the brothers of Judge Moses Hallett, and the names of his uncles.:

(Find the name or at least the gender of the unnamed child mentioned here, (I found it http://www.findagrav...r&GRid=56887048 )

and you should have all the pieces of the puzzle necessary to linking or disqualifying the Halletts you posts, unless judge Hallett had an earlier marriage and sons.)

http://files.usgwarc...allett17nbs.txt

Author: Wilbur Fiske Stone (1918)

HON. MOSES HALLETT. LL. D.

....On the 9th of February, 1882, Judge Hallett was married to Miss Katherine

Felt, a daughter of Lucius S. Felt, a merchant of Galena, Illinois. For many

years Mrs. Hallett was prominent in the social and church circles of Denver and

the state, doing particularly active work in the Episcopal church and in

connection with St. Luke's Hospital. She died September 19, 1902, and in her

honor Judge Hallett built the Katherine Hallett Home for Nurses at St. Luke's

Hospital....

Lucius F. Hallett was the elder of the two children born to Judge and Mrs.

Hallett and after acquiring his early education in the elementary schools of

Denver went to the Pomfret School in Connecticut and afterward became a student

in the Massachusetts Institute of Technology at Boston. He was graduated on the

completion of the scientific course in 1908 and then returned to Denver, where

for three years he was connected with the construction of Clayton College of

Denver, one of the leading educational institutions of the state. He afterward

returned to the east for a year to engage in engineering work, but on receiving

news of his father's death he immediately went home and engaged in settling up

his father's estate, which required his attention for two years. He next devoted

a year and a half to the affairs of St. Luke's Hospital, of which he has since

been treasurer. In 1917 he was elected president of the Denver board of

education. He is a trustee of Clayton College and of St. Luke's Hospital and of

the Museum of Natural History at City Park.

Mr. Hallett was married on the 14th of June, 1909, to Miss Genevieve

Pfeiffer, of Rye, New Hampshire, a daughter of Mr. and Mrs. O. J. Pfeiffer,

residents of Denver. They have become parents of five children: Lucius F., born

in Denver in 1910; John Folsom, in 1912; Robert Corbin, in 1913; James Brewster,

in 1915; and Moses Deering in November, 1917. The elder children are in school....

(Oliver Sawyer Hallett had not yet been born at the time the bio above was written, or his birth was unknown to the author.)

http://genealogytrai...biohallett.html

....The subject of this biography was the eldest of their children; (James S. Hallett) Timothy, the second, is a prominent citizen of Galena; Bartlett died several years since at Mount Carroll; Lucy is the wife of Samuel Snyder, of Lena, Illinois; and Moses is Judge of the United States District Court of Colorado, at Denver

And, Robert, need I remind you, that even when important links between relevant individuals are firmly established, almost no one here takes any interest, but post a photo of the back of a designated (unidentifiable) suspicious figure's head, or of a hopelessly blurred blob, and they are all over it in an enthusiastic frenzy?

( Garry Coit, CIA case officer of Priscilla Johnson and fraternity brother and fraternity housemate of Thomas Devine.)

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And, Robert, need I remind you, that even when important links between relevant individuals are firmly established, almost no one here takes any interest, but post a photo of the back of a designated (unidentifiable) suspicious figure's head, or of a hopelessly blurred blob, and they are all over it in an enthusiastic frenzy?

I really should not have to be posting in this thread but your comment is so provocative....

I have been providing links as well, the links I am providing are visual temporal links. The links I am using are at the scene of the crime at the time of the crime. I did not just post the images, I posted the time interval between each picture which creates a link.

As an example of a link

The picture on top(taken about 53 seconds after the headshots), showing people inside the pergola shelter, was taken about 15 seconds before the picture on the bottom. The times are the important links.

BTW, Trask could not have done this and anyone relying only on Trask's "Pictures of the Pain" could not have done it because Trask has the bottom photo incorrectly placed chronologically. You have to go back to the source data. When you look at all the photographs during this time period it appears that the man on the steps in the bottom picture just comes out of nowhere. I can see why Trask put this picture at a later time chronologically, Doing that gave this man time to get there. But it does not occur at that later time.

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This photo was taken 15 seconds after previous image.

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The subject of this biography was the eldest of their children; (James S. Hallett) Timothy, the second, is a prominent citizen of Galena; Bartlett died several years since at Mount Carroll; Lucy is the wife of Samuel Snyder, of Lena, Illinois; and Moses is Judge of the United States District Court of Colorado, at Denver

And, Robert, need I remind you, that even when important links between relevant individuals are firmly established, almost no one here takes any interest, but post a photo of the back of a designated (unidentifiable) suspicious figure's head, or of a hopelessly blurred blob, and they are all over it in an enthusiastic frenzy?

Let's not forget 100 pages of Oswald in the Doorway......

( Garry Coit, CIA case officer of Priscilla Johnson and fraternity brother and fraternity housemate of Thomas Devine.)

Yes, Tom I read that and it is very impressive, your genealogy skills leave me in the dirt.

I've been at this for some time, and I still can't quite come to a resolution on the Dopplegangers/Dual Identities

phenomena; It seems obvious there was an attempt to confuse the issue in that regard. But in hindsight, its

hard to imagine the adding in of so many same names, too many to reference here. I believe that part

of it is just a coincidence, when you consider the sheer amount of names in the JFK saga.

I won't post the quote, because it would be redundant, but every time I see a reference to Shreveport, I think

about the quote attributed to Sherman Kent in Bruce Campbell Adamson's DeMohrenschildt books, about

not being aware of certain goings on there before the assassination of President Kennedy. Before it is all over

I believe certain facts will emerge about the assassination there.

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Let's not forget 100 pages of Oswald in the Doorway......

There is no comparison between the information that I posted and the information that was discussed in the Doorman thread.

However, I do not expect you to appreciate the significance of what I have posted because this is not your area of interest. Correspondingly I may not always appreciate the significance of what you post because your area of study is not an area I am interested in. That is just the way it is.

I think it is time to let that Doorman thread go and stop letting it color other threads.

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