Gil Jesus Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 When Earl Warren and Gerald Ford went to Dallas to interview Jack Ruby, Ruby asked to be brought to Washington. Ruby told them that he felt that his life was in danger and that he could not speak freely in Dallas, but he would tell all if they took him to Washington. Here was the most important living witness to the whole "who-killed-Kennnedy" question, who was willing to cooperate with the investigation and his request was denied. So which witnesses DID the taxpayers pay to fly to Washington to give testimony in this case ? James Herbert Martin - Mgr. of Six Flags Inn where Marina and Marguerite were detained. Katherine Ford - Oswald family acquaintance in Dallas Declan P. Ford - " " " " Peter Paul Gregory - Russian interpreter Kerry Thornley - Oswald Marine Corps pal Alexandra DeMohrenschildt ( Mrs. Donald Gibson ) William Kirk Stuckey - WDSU broadcaster in New Orleans Priscilla Johnson - CIA-connected journaist, knew Oswalds in Russia Curtis LaVerve Crafard - Ruby employee George Senator - Ruby roommate Nancy Perrin Rich - Ruby employee Earl Ruby - Ruby brother Hymen Rubenstein - Ruby brother William D. Crowe Jr. - Ruby performer Marjorie R. Richey - Ruby waitress George William Fehrenbach Ike Pappas - reporter Seth Kantor - reporter John G. McCullogh - Philadelphia reporter who went to Dallas an hour after assassination Lawrence V. Myers Revilo P. Oliver - right wing author and speaker All of these witnesses, none of whom could provide one iota of evidence in the murder of JFK, were all invited to Washington to testify before the Commission on the taxpayers' dime. And yet, Jack Ruby's request was denied. The way this case was handled just never ceases to amaze me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Rivers Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) Ruby pointed the finger at LBJ correct? That's probably why. Edited February 26, 2012 by Rodney Rivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Ruby pointed the finger at LBJ correct? That's probably why. Spot on, Rodney! He whispered as much to a reporter and was caught on film and audio doing so. --Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Rivers Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 In 1964, where did Ruby point the finger at LBJ? It's been a long time but I think I read it in Marrs Crossfire book like 17/18 years back. If i recall correctly, he had a written letter to somebody (maybe RFK, maybe a reporter??) that LBJ was behind it all. He also said something to the effect of If Aldai Stevenson was the VP, then JFK would still be alive today. I'm sure some of the other researchers on this site can provide some validation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wengler Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 For many years i have wondered that What would it have cost to bring Ruby to Washington like what Gil Jesus post? When they brought so many others there. If you want to see Ruby make that statement it is on line or if you have the tapes The Killing Of President Kennedy or Declassified The Plot To Kill President Kennedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) In 1964, where did Ruby point the finger at LBJ? Jim, Have you ever seen this video? If not, then check it out, especially the "clip" from 00:57 to 01.22 during which Ruby says "Well, The Answer Is The Man In Office Now". I borrowed the video from Wim Dankbaar's website JFK Murder Solved Enjoy! http://jfkmurdersolved.com/film/ruby.wmv --Tommy Edited February 27, 2012 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Rivers Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) In 1964, where did Ruby point the finger at LBJ? Jim, Have you ever seen this video? If not, then check it out, especially the "clip" from 00:57 to 01.22 during which Ruby says "Well, The Answer Is The Man In Office Now". I borrowed the video from Wim Dankbaar's website JFK Murder Solved Enjoy! http://jfkmurdersolved.com/film/ruby.wmv --Tommy Great work in finding that! I no longer have Marrs book with me, but I believe he had a copy of Ruby's written blame of LBJ. And there were rumors that RFK and the K family did their own private investigation and had one of their men interview Ruby in his jail cell. Whereby Ruby told them the same. Which may have led to this : Edited February 27, 2012 by Rodney Rivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) In 1964, where did Ruby point the finger at LBJ? Jim, Have you ever seen this video? If not, then check it out, especially the "clip" from 00:57 to 01.22 during which Ruby says "Well, The Answer Is The Man In Office Now". I borrowed the video from Wim Dankbaar's website JFK Murder Solved Enjoy! http://jfkmurdersolved.com/film/ruby.wmv --Tommy Great work in finding that! I no longer have Marrs book with me, but I believe he had a copy of Ruby's written blame of LBJ. And there were rumors that RFK and the K family did their own private investigation and had one of their men interview Ruby in his jail cell. Whereby Ruby told them the same. Which may have led to this : Rodney, Here's Wim Dankbaar's page on Jack Ruby. I think the letter you're talking about is viewable there if you scroll down a bit. http://jfkmurdersolved.com/ruby.htm --Tommy Edited February 27, 2012 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hocking Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 When Earl Warren and Gerald Ford went to Dallas to interview Jack Ruby, Ruby asked to be brought to Washington. Ruby told them that he felt that his life was in danger and that he could not speak freely in Dallas, but he would tell all if they took him to Washington. Here was the most important living witness to the whole "who-killed-Kennnedy" question, who was willing to cooperate with the investigation and his request was denied. ... This tells us everything we need to know about Earl Warren's quest for the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hocking Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 A point to consider: When Ruby pointed to Lyndon Johnson, he was implicating the top person that he (Ruby) was aware of. On a "need to know" basis, Ruby would Not have had knowledge of all the participants or the total scope of the operation. As many of the members here know, the Dallas plot was described differently by various individuals according to exposure to planners, participants, roles and environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 In 1964, where did Ruby point the finger at LBJ? It's been a long time but I think I read it in Marrs Crossfire book like 17/18 years back. If i recall correctly, he had a written letter to somebody (maybe RFK, maybe a reporter??) that LBJ was behind it all. He also said something to the effect of If Aldai Stevenson was the VP, then JFK would still be alive today. I'm sure some of the other researchers on this site can provide some validation. Marrs has a good deal of misinfo in his book for example he claimed JFK was going to replace fed Reserve Notes with Silver Notes when in fact he did the exact opposite. Not to say there weren't many problems with the WC and their report, but Ruby babbled on about a conspiracy to get the Jews the 1st time they spoke to him, so I don't think it surprising they didn't go through the bother of transporting a convicted killer to DC. How many of the people on the list already had spoken to the commission? How many were serving time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) In 1964, where did Ruby point the finger at LBJ? It's been a long time but I think I read it in Marrs Crossfire book like 17/18 years back. If i recall correctly, he had a written letter to somebody (maybe RFK, maybe a reporter??) that LBJ was behind it all. He also said something to the effect of If Aldai Stevenson was the VP, then JFK would still be alive today. I'm sure some of the other researchers on this site can provide some validation. [...] Ruby babbled on about a conspiracy to get the Jews the 1st time they spoke to him, so I don't think it surprising they didn't go through the bother of transporting a convicted killer to DC. [...] Len, Are you saying they thought Ruby was just too crazy to give any meaningful testimony about the assassination? Was Ruby convicted of murdering Oswald, or was he found "innocent by reason of insanity"? --Tommy Edited February 28, 2012 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 In 1964, where did Ruby point the finger at LBJ? It's been a long time but I think I read it in Marrs Crossfire book like 17/18 years back. If i recall correctly, he had a written letter to somebody (maybe RFK, maybe a reporter??) that LBJ was behind it all. He also said something to the effect of If Aldai Stevenson was the VP, then JFK would still be alive today. I'm sure some of the other researchers on this site can provide some validation. [...] Ruby babbled on about a conspiracy to get the Jews the 1st time they spoke to him, so I don't think it surprising they didn't go through the bother of transporting a convicted killer to DC. [...] Are you saying they thought Ruby was just too crazy to give any meaningful testimony about the assassination? Aren't convicted murderers ever called upon to testify in a court of law, or are they considered, by definition, to be "just too crazy" to do so? --Tommy Ruby had yet to be convicted, and he was questioned in a room with about a dozen or more people in it, including those from Texas who he implied intimidated him from telling the truth, which he could only do if he was taken out of Texas. The only reason not to take Ruby out of Texas for proper questioning was not to learn the truth. BK JFKcountercoup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 In 1964, where did Ruby point the finger at LBJ? It's been a long time but I think I read it in Marrs Crossfire book like 17/18 years back. If i recall correctly, he had a written letter to somebody (maybe RFK, maybe a reporter??) that LBJ was behind it all. He also said something to the effect of If Aldai Stevenson was the VP, then JFK would still be alive today. I'm sure some of the other researchers on this site can provide some validation. [...] Ruby babbled on about a conspiracy to get the Jews the 1st time they spoke to him, so I don't think it surprising they didn't go through the bother of transporting a convicted killer to DC. [...] Are you saying they thought Ruby was just too crazy to give any meaningful testimony about the assassination? Aren't convicted murderers ever called upon to testify in a court of law, or are they considered, by definition, to be "just too crazy" to do so? --Tommy Ruby had yet to be convicted, and he was questioned in a room with about a dozen or more people in it, including those from Texas who he implied intimidated him from telling the truth, which he could only do if he was taken out of Texas. The only reason not to take Ruby out of Texas for proper questioning was not to learn the truth. BK JFKcountercoup Bill, I agree with what you wrote. Unfortunately, I was still editing my last post when you were replying to it. (It would have been nice, however, if you had kept my original last sentence or at least put a [...] in its place to indicate that you were cutting it out in your reply.) Keep up the good work, --Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Ruby was convicted March 14, 1964 when did he asked to be taken to DC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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