The power of Emotional Memories

[Steven Kossor]

No place on Earth has a greater density of assholes per square inch than a school.  Any school.  And they’ve been getting more numerous with every passing generation, especially in the US.

[David Andrews]

On 7/28/2021 at 4:28 PM, Chris Barnard said:

That’s a proper reflex. 

 

Well, when I answered the teacher, I did assume she wanted me to grow up to be a good and circumspect president.  My bad.

Good presidents go to heaven

But bad presidents go everywhere...

Edited July 30, 2021 by David Andrews

[Guest]

1 minute ago, David Andrews said:

Well, when I answered the teacher, I did assume she wanted me to grow up to be a good and circumspect president.  My bad.

Haha 

[David Andrews]

Here's a graphic response to propaganda journalism by Gen. Benton Partin, the former Air Force ordnance expert who lent opinions on the explosions in the OKC bombing and in the 9/11 WTC attacks.

The backstory: Partin appeared at a June 1995 OKC skeptic event and participated in its press conference.  His explosives commentary was useful.  Then he veered off to claim that media coverage since the April bombing had encouraged attacks on the Christian Right.  Regardless his political bias, his propaganda effect characterization has a certain unsubtle, visceral appeal, if perhaps an uneasy fit with the terms of other psychological study.  And it does play off the the cognitive dissonance theory:

 

PARTIN: Well, that 's the propaganda, you see. That's the disinformation

program. Let me make one ... you all need to know one thing.

How many of you know about Pavlov and his dog? You ring the

bell, you feed the dog, you ring the bell, you feed the dog, and the

saliva flows whether you feed the dog or not. There are two other

levels of that experiment that most people are not aware of.

 

He took the same dog. He put him in a bare room with a light bulb.

And he would take a stick. He would turn the light out and he

would beat the dog. Turn the light out and beat the dog. With a

long stick he couldn't hit the dog in the corner. The dog's only

defense mechanism was dive to the corner. So you turned the light

off, beat the dog, turn the light off, the dog dives to the corner. So

you have him conditioned to two things: the bell and the food ,

which is good; and the light going off and being beaten with the

cane, which is bad.

 

Now, you take the same dog and put him in a bare room and you

simultaneously ring the bell and turn off the light. So what does

the dog do? He stands there and quivers. He does nothing. You

have induced what the psychiatric world calls a catatonic state.

 

And the media providing the truth with the lie compounded pro·

duces a catatonic state in your own reactions. You don't know

whether to believe this or whether to believe that. You have the truth

compounding with the lie coming from the media, which you 'd like to believe.

So what's your reaction? Do nothing. Half the people in this country don't even

vote.

 

MEDIA #13: General, with all due respect, I'd like to come back for just a minute to the bombing.

 

 

Edited July 30, 2021 by David Andrews

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, David Andrews said:

Here's a graphic response to propaganda journalism by Gen. Benton Partin, the former Air Force ordnance expert who lent opinions on the explosions in the OKC bombing and in the 9/11 WTC attacks.

The backstory: Partin appeared at a June 1995 OKC skeptic event and participated in its press conference.  His explosives commentary was useful.  Then he veered off to claim that media coverage since the April bombing had encouraged attacks on the Christian Right.  Regardless his political bias, his propaganda effect characterization has a certain unsubtle, visceral appeal, if perhaps an uneasy fit with the terms of other psychological study:

 

PARTIN: Well, that 's the propaganda, you see. That's the disinformation

program. Let me make one ... you all need to know one thing.

How many of you know about Pavlov and his dog? You ring the

bell, you feed the dog, you ring the bell, you feed the dog, and the

saliva flows whether you feed the dog or not. There are two other

levels of that experiment that most people are not aware of.

 

He took the same dog. He put him in a bare room with a light bulb.

And he would take a stick. He would turn the light out and he

would beat the dog. Turn the light out and beat the dog. With a

long stick he couldn't hit the dog in the corner. The dog's only

defense mechanism was dive to the corner. So you turned the light

off, beat the dog, turn the light off, the dog dives to the corner. So

you have him conditioned to two things: the bell and the food ,

which is good; and the light going off and being beaten with the

cane, which is bad.

 

Now, you take the same dog and put him in a bare room and you

simultaneously ring the bell and turn off the light. So what does

the dog do? He stands there and quivers. He does nothing. You

have induced what the psychiatric world calls a catatonic state.

 

And the media providing the truth with the lie compounded pro·

duces a catatonic state in your own reactions. You don't know

whether to believe this or whether to believe that. You have the truth

compounding with the lie coming from the media, which you 'd like to believe.

So what's your reaction? Do nothing. Half the people in this country don't even

vote.

 

MEDIA #13: General, with all due respect, I'd like to come back for just a minute to the bombing.

 

 

I was reading exactly this two days ago, in Joost Merloo’s “Rape of The Mind”. There is a whole chapter on Pavlov. Unfortunately for us, the techniques are even more refined now. Skinner’s rat’s and operant conditioning is another great thing to look at in terms of influencing or coercing animal or human behaviour. 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rape-Mind-Psychology-Menticide-Brainwashing/dp/1614277877/ref=nodl_