Greg Burnham Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) David Mantik and his lovely wife, Pat, visited me and my wife here in San Diego last week. I suggested to Len Osanic that David be interviewed from my home office regarding his recent review of John McAdams' book, JFK ASSASSINATION LOGIC. David's review, "How to Think Like John McAdams" has been discussed on this forum previously. As I said on the show, I was the first person to ever debate John McAdams on the air. This was way back in about 1999 or so. Since then I have learned a great deal of information that I did not then know. Indeed, in the intervening years I have perhaps learned as much, if not more, new information above and beyond that of which I was then currently aware. It is simply stunning that McAdams or anyone who wishes to be taken seriously on this subject, continues to make the same out dated claims today as he did over a decade ago. The amount of new information that he either chooses to ignore or of which he is simply unaware for lack of effort to research is voluminous. It is like he has been stuck in neutral since about 1967. The show will air this Thursday evening. David Mantik on Black Op Radio Kudos to David for another job well done. . Edited March 19, 2012 by Greg Burnham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David G. Healy Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 David Mantik and his lovely wife, Pat, visited me and my wife here in San Diego last week. I suggested to Len Osanic that David be interviewed from my home office regarding his recent review of John McAdams' book, JFK ASSASSINATION LOGIC. David's review, "How to Think Like John McAdams" has been discussed on this forum previously. As I said on the show, I was the first person to ever debate John McAdams on the air. This was way back in about 1999 or so. Since then I have learned a great deal of information that I did not then know. Indeed, in the intervening years I have perhaps learned as much, if not more, new information above and beyond that of which I was then currently aware. It is simply stunning that McAdams or anyone who wishes to be taken seriously on this subject, continues to make the same out dated claims today as he did over a decade ago. The amount of new information that he either chooses to ignore or of which he is simply unaware for lack of effort to research is voluminous. It is like he has been stuck in neutral since about 1967. The show will air this Thursday evening. David Mantik on Black Op Radio Kudos to David for another job well done. thanks for the update, Monk.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Burnham Posted March 20, 2012 Author Share Posted March 20, 2012 Good to see you, David. You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Burnham Posted March 22, 2012 Author Share Posted March 22, 2012 Show notes... Dr. Mantik: Is a practicing Medical Doctor Is Board Certified in Radiation Oncology Has a PhD in Physics Became seriously interested in the assassination with Stone's movie Performed x-ray measurements at the National Archives, JFK Assassination Logic (McAdams 2011), How to Think Like John McAdams Six Seconds in Dallas (Thompson 1967) touted as the best, forty years later Overview, logic in the title, but not in the book, he does commit logical fallacies Why he omits data, culling evidence, no citation, no rules, inconsistent After all of the data that we have accumulated, he does seem to be stuck in the past He seems to just regurgitate second hand evidence, no real research of his own Do not trust eyewitnesses, except for those approved by McAdams Elizabeth Loftus, 10 closest witnesses to the limousine, it stopped, ignored Tippet, ejected spent cartridges, Don Thomas, three irreconcilably different opinions Back of JFK's head, McAdams argues no damage, witnesses report the opposite Right-rear head wound descriptions, exit wound, orange or palm sized, McClelland The right temple/forehead, identified by witnesses to the body and to photographs Press conference, Malcolm Kilduff pointing, Chet Huntley, George Burkley Seth Kantor, Charles Crenshaw pointed to right hair line just above the eye socket Robinson, near the hairline, Joe O'Donnell, Robert Knudsen photographs Above the right eye, an entry wound, Dennis David, William Pitzer Ed Reed, Doug Horne, Reed, Robinson, saw Humes sawing into the skull Dr. Mantik observed a trail of apparent bullet fragments on the skull x-rays The largest fragment at the back of the head, larger pieces go farther, from the front At the autopsy, there was no fragment on the x-rays, children can find it Dozens of, experts could not see the fragment that night, the Clark Panel report Double exposing an x-ray, John Ebersole, discussion ended at the mention of fragment Assassination Science (Fetzer et al 1998), John Fitzpatrick, a forensic radiologist McAdams acknowledges no fact checker, Dr. Mantik thanks Millicent Cranor Assumes 20 conspirators, 96% probability that it would get out, standard deviation Gilbert Welch (2004), a list of bad facts in the book Photos of back of the head, stereo viewer, paired images, hair looked flat 5x7 transparencies of JFK's back, left upper back, a small dark spot, a lighter spot Color prints, an inconsistent set of photographs, authentic? impossible Abnormally dark area, hair washed, no autopsy witnesses saw hair washed, Keeping major secrets, autopsy personnel, Parkland doctors, kept their secrets Manhattan Project, Mrs. Groves was shocked, My Lai, People of the Lie (1998) Fingerprint and palmprint evidence, Carl Day refused to sign a statement Fingerprint identification has come under increasing skepticism as unscientific The provenance, a print under the wooden stock, one on the trigger guard Dr. Mantik reviews his summary, Attention Deficit Disorder, critical thinking Dr. Mantik also appeared on Black Op Radio shows: #453, #395, #331, #127 and #029 Greg Burnham also appeared on Black Op Radio shows: #509, #081, #037, #034 and #001 John McAdams appeared on Black Op Radio shows: #443 and #442 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Burnham Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 I hope that David's interview was heard by both veteran and newbie researchers. There is pertinent "information a plenty" for all. David's arguments and conclusions are firmly based in SCIENCE and hard evidence--not speculation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) DVP's JFK Archives / David Mantik On John McAdams Edited March 23, 2012 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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