If Oswald Was an Intelligence Agent of Some Sort, How Was He Manipulated Into Being a Patsy?

[Mark Wengler]

I think that it's highly unlikely (if not impossible) for any US Agent to be made into a patsy.

Richard Case Nagell? Like Oswald, Nagell was former-military, worked as a domestic intelligence operative for more than one agency, without official status. (He was ex-DIA.)

Was Oswald an operative when he went to Russia? If so, he was less "wannabe" than Cuba-infiltrating stone killers like Loran Hall, Larry Howard. Was he appreciated, high or low in the echelons, for defecting and returning? Did anyone think he was important, an intelligence hero, CIA officer material? Probably not. They'd made him the worst sort of damaged goods, a socal pariah, a perennial suspect..

Was he an op afterward in the US, setting up what was probably passed off to him as a "sting operation" in starting the FPCC chapter? I suspect that if Oz didn't become a civilian, a "straight," as hipsters used to say, it wasn't through poverty or discontent, or the stigma of a Russian wife and his defector's past, nor out of his own political inclinations - it was because somebody wanted a "Lefty Lee" operative in the field. I wonder if this line of work was sold to him as the sequel to his defection. Somehow, though. "Lefty Lee" got inside more right-wing activities than left-wing ones.

I'm not an Oswald heroizer. Nagell's caution to Dick Russell that researchers should make no mistake because Oz "was in it up to his neck" counts for something with me. But Oz may have been under such deep cover that Nagell may not have seen all there was to him. Or maybe not.

Like i said in a earlier post it could be very easy to do. lets say you an agent and they want to frame you for something. Your handler says David i need you to be here and pick up a package and take it to a place. Then i need you to check into a hotel and wait for a message.

As a agent you don't ask why you are doing these things you trust your handler. Then latter you find out there is a manhunt out for you. Then you realise that you have been setup by the very person you trusted.

[Ian Kingsbury]

If "Bishop" was seen with Oswald as per Fonzi via Vechiana

Who is the show for and by whom?.

Atlee-Phillips wanted Vechiana to

"see" but not know.

Or was Vechiana supposed to let the cat out of the bag?.

Is this why Vechiana did not completely ID Atlee Phillips ?.

Were they still of use to each other?.

[Thomas Graves]

Ian,

You seem to think that David Atlee Phillips wanted Veciana to see LHO with him (Phillips). I wonder if someone else could have wanted Veciana to see Oswald with Phillips. Or maybe Phillips just wanted Veciana to see Lee and was just a little careless. Or maybe he was just really, really careless...

--Tommy

Edited June 21, 2012 by Thomas Graves

[Paul Trejo]

So okay, does anyone here think General Edwin Anderson Walker might have had anything to do with the manipulating of Lee Harvey Oswald into being the "just a patsy" figure that Oswald himself told reporters that he was?

If so, how?

Thank you,,

--Tommy

Tommy, I think the ex-General Edwin A. Walker manipulated Lee Harvey Oswald into being the JFK plot's patsy. Here, in a super-brief summary, is how I think it was done:

1. In the first part of 1962, General Walker had been in the papers because Walker: (i) was kicked out of his command in Germany by JFK because he spread John Birch Society materials to his 10,000 Troops there (and pushed them to vote his way); (ii) so he resigned from the Army in protest and started a career imitating segregationist preacher, Reverend Billy James Hargis and oil billionaire H.L. Hunt; (iii) was so successful as a right-wing rabble-rouser that in March, 1962 he decided to run for Governor of Texas (funded by H.L. Hunt); (iv) he testified to the Senate Subcommitee on Military Indoctrination with feeble excuses for his clash with the Army newspaper, Overseas Weekly, which exposed him; (v) he received more negative press which led to his loss in his bid for Governor (he came in last place). Walker was probably feeling petulant around June of 1962.

2. In June of 1962, Lee Harvey Oswald decided he didn't like the USSR anymore, and was allowed to return to the USA with his Russian wife, Marina.

3. George De Mohrenschildt, an aristocratic playboy with a wealthy wife, could speak several languages and was well-educated and savvy in politics, also had Anticommunist spying experience in Europe, so the CIA trusted him with odd contracts. George was also a geology professor at UT, and was hungry for a major oil contract, and the CIA made him a trade -- find out about Lee Oswald (is he a KGB plant) in exchange for connections to a lucrative oil contract in Haiti. George took the job.

4. In June of 1962, Lee Harvey Oswald proved to be an unhappy camper. Work was too hard and money was too little. Everybody had more money than he did; especially George De Mohrenschildt's friend, George Bouhe, who liked Marina so well that he brought her gifts and money all the time. Lee started beating Marina for the first time. George De Mohrenschildt helped them move, helped them find places, helped Lee find another job, and generally treated Lee like a spoiled child for the rest of 1962.

5. In September, 1962, General Walker found a new calling -- he would join Governor Ross Barnett of Mississippi in opposing the Supreme Court ruling to racially integrate Ole Miss University in Oxford, Mississippi (with one black student, James Meredith). Walker sent JFK a hostile open letter and broadcasted over the radio a call for ten thousand protesters to come to Jackson, Mississippi. (When asked by a reporter if he expected these protesters to bring their guns, Walker said, "That's up to them!" Walker's intent was to act if and when JFK ordered Federal Troops to force the racial integration (as Eisenhower had done in Little Rock, Arkansas in 1957).

6. Thousands of protesters did show up at Ole Miss, and JFK did send in thousands of Federal Troops, and Walker did lead the protesters in resisting the Federal marshals. The protests turned into riots in which hundreds were wounded and two were killed. But in the end, James Meredith was admitted to the college. RFK arrested Walker the next morning and had him committed to an Army mental hospital for a 90-day evaluation. That was a big mistake. Five days later the ex-General Edwin A. Walker was released with an apology. (You don't mix politics with psychiatry.)

7. In January of 1963, a Grand Jury in Oxford Mississippi heard Walker's case, and acquitted him; they dropped all charges. Yes, partly it was because the case was about race integration, and this was Mississippi in 1963. But partly it was due to the fact that Walker claimed he was really there in Oxford trying to calm everybody down, and the Grand Jury believed him. This made the papers yet again.

8. At this point Walker exulted and began suing every American newspaper that had said bad things about him (and his lawyers sought $30 million all told, which would be $300 million in today's dollars). They thought they were set for life. In further exultation, Reverend Billy James Hargis and ex-General Edwin A. Walker began a new speaking tour, called the "Midnight Ride" which would go from Florida to Los Angeles in 26 stops over six weeks.

9. Also in January of 1963, George De Mohrenschildt was getting tired of hearing Lee Oswald whine. One of Lee's many complaints (very common amongst Marines) was that JFK let America down at the Bay of Pigs. So, George got ahold of his engineer friend, Volkmar Schmidt, who had a plan to 'convert' Oswald and change his thinking. The plan was to have a big party of young professionals with close ties to the Russian Exile community in Dallas, and invite the Oswalds. There, Volkmar would work on Lee Oswald and 'transfer' his hostile feelings from JFK to General Walker. He worked on Oswald for more than an hour. Also at the party were Michael and Ruth Paine, who were also critics of General Walker. (Perhaps, too, Larrie Schmidt, an ambitious social-climber, may have been at that party, as there is some evidence that Larrie knew George De Mohrenschildt.)

10. Volkmar's treatment worked. Soon after that party, Lee Oswald (perhaps in an effort to please his new friends, or just to please George De Mohrenschildt) purchased a rifle and a gun, and made a fake ID for himself at his place of employment. Lee had Marina take one picture of himself with his gun and rifle, and Lee then used the photographic equipment at his job (at Jaggers-Chiles-Stovall) to make several different poses. Oswald also starting taking pictures of Walker's home, and processing the photos at his job. He got carried away, and he was fired from his job.

11. Lee didn't tell Marina he was fired. For nearly a month he got up as usual and "went to work" as far as she knew. Actually, he was perfecting his plan. He continued to talk with George De Mohrenschildt about General Walker, and they called him "General Fokker," just as they called Volkmar Schmidt, "Messer Schmidt".

12. On April 9, 1963, ex-General Walker returned from his "Midnight Ride" speaking tour, and heard from the police that there had been a pair of prowlers outside his home the night before.

13. According to Larrie's brother, Bob Schmidt, he, Larrie and Lee Oswald drove to Walker's home at 4011 Turtle Creek Blvd in Dallas on 10 April 1963 at 9 PM, and tried to kill Walker with a rifle. The shot grazed the window sill and so was deflected from its target. Walker was very disturbed by this brazen attack. (For the rest of his life he believed that RFK tried to kill him for his role in the Ole Miss scandal.)

14. George and Jeanne De Mohrenschildt lost sleep -- they were worried that Lee Harvey Oswald may have been the shooter. Three days later they worked up their courage and they bought a toy bunny to take to the Oswalds' baby. On April 13, at 10 PM, when the Oswalds were asleep, the De Mohrenschildts woke them up, barged in with the bunny for the baby, and under the pretext of admiring their apartment, Jeanne found Oswald's rifle -- with a scope on it. "Look, George," said Jeanne, "They have a rifle." George joked to Lee, "Lee, did you take a pot-shot at General Walker?" Lee Oswald froze and so did Marina. They knew they never told a soul, so how did George guess it? Then George started laughing and they all laughed and that was the end of the visit. The De Mohrenschildt's moved to Haiti and never saw the Oswalds again.

15. The next day, however, Easter Sunday 14 April 1963, George De Mohrenschildt could not resist the urge to tell somebody, so he told his two good friends, Mr. and Mrs. Igor Voshinin about his suspicions that Lee Harvey Oswald had been General Walker's shooter. They readily agreed that Lee was just hot-headed enough to do this. After George left, Mrs. Voshinin called the FBI right away, and told them about George's suspicions. (This vignette is found in Dick Russell's book, TMWKTM.)

16. Here is where my theory begins. I believe that the FBI now told ex-General Edwin Walker (or told somebody who told ex-General Walker) no later than Easter Sunday 14 April 1963, that Lee Harvey Oswald was a suspect in his 10 April 1963 shooting. In Walker's mind, the pieces would fit -- RFK was a Communist, he thought, and Oswald was a Communist, and it was always clear to Walker that the Communists were out to get him.

17. Walker, a leading member of the Texas Minutemen paramilitary organization, decided to exact paramilitary justice on this loose-cannon Marine. He contacted a leading member of the Louisiana Minutemen, namely, Guy Bannister, and told Bannister about Lee Harvey Oswald. Guy Bannister had a loyal friend (and a member of the Minutemen) named David Ferrie, who actually knew Oswald. They concocted a plan to entrap Oswald and exact paramilitary justice.

18. The plan was something like this. Offer Oswald vast riches and a chance for fame, and maybe even a parade and a chance to run for President, if he would do one simple thing -- kill Fidel Castro. It was easy for any officer of the FPCC to get into Cuba through Mexico, they claimed. All Oswald would have to do -- with his vast talents -- would be to mock up some street credentials in the newspaper, radio and TV to make it look like he was a real officer of the FPCC, and he could get into Cuba through Mexico the same day!

19. Oswald took the bait, and in only a matter of a few days he moved to New Orleans, Louisiana, leaving Marina and June behind with Ruth Paine, to catch up later. In a few more days Oswald had a menial job at a coffee company, a couple of blocks from Guy Bannister's office at 544 Camp Street.

20. Soon Marina joined Oswald, and for a few weeks they lived a normal life -- or so she thought. Actually, in just a few weeks Oswald would be fired again, although he wouldn't tell Marina -- Lee would just get up in the morning as usual, and do other things as she believed Lee was at work. Lee was busy getting himself in the newspapers, on the radio and on TV, as a fake official of the FPCC. (Lee did this with the help of Carlos Bringuier and Ed Butler, who were two Batista Cubans who were as right-wing as possible; they were propaganda experts, and they had CIA funding for anything they wanted to do that could possibly hurt Fidel Castro.)

21. When the sheep-dip was done in Septemgber, 1963, Marina moved back with Ruth Paine, and Oswald traveled to Mexico to try out his plan. (In the meantime, Oswald had been warned by Richard Case Nagell that if he succeeds in getting a Visa to Cuba, Nagell would have to kill him to protect his own cover as well as Fidel Castro. Also, Oswald had been warned by Bannister and Ferrie that if he failed to get into Cuba and kill Fidel Castro, Oswald would be drafted into a plot to kill JFK, because they always knew that Oswald tried to kill Walker, so Oswald's life wasn't worth a nickel anymore.)

22. The Mexico effort failed miserably. Oswald trudged back to Dallas to meet his fate. Luckily, his role in the JFK plot would be very minimal -- he would only bring his rifle to the TSBD, and then forget about it. Soon, thought Oswald, he would be free from this entire nightmare.

There it is, Tommy, a thumbnail summary of my theory about how General Walker (working with Bannister and Ferrie, along with the Minutemen and the John Birch Society) made Lee Harvey Oswald into a patsy.

Best regards,

--Paul Trejo

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Edited June 22, 2012 by Paul Trejo

[Jim Phelps]

LHO's dream as a kid was to be a secret agent, and he got a chance for working the Russians to screw up the Peace making by Russia with Eisenhower. LHO was sent to Russia to aggrivate the U-2 fly over problems and put an end to Russian Peace efforts with Eisenhower.

LHO didn't work officially for the CIA, but more for private interests like PERMINDEX and side line Joint Chief pals tha wanted a quick nuclear war with Russia. The U-2 was the first leg of the plan an the second was put a Russian Sympathizer killing JFK, which would give the push to attack Russia with nukes that many in high places wanted.

LHO knew the group he was watching was going to hit JFK and LHO was busy ratting them out to the FBI, but the FBI was about a crooked as the plotters that wanted JFK out of the way and a nice quick war with Russia. LHO game was to break up the plot and become the national hero, but the forces went way to high and he was killed to keep his mouth shut as he knew way too much. The muscle to kill LHO was Jack Ruby, because Jack Ruby knew the Israel factors would come out if the plot to make a single lone nut shooter failed to work.

With all the information dumped to get LHO, all the other real shooters got away. LHO made a good cover for the real killers to make their runs out of town.

LHO was supposed to became a huge profit for the war industries to make more weapons and nuclear bombs, but LBJ quickly got cold feet on letting that happen on a large scale and paid them off with Vietnam.

There was about no way that LHO could remain alive at that point, because the whole plan depended on LHO being the only shooter, and they really needed him to be the dead only shooter and never going to trial.

Thus, the goals of a young boy to become a sort of secret agent led to his being used in ways that he would never had imagined due to the higher up levels of the Govt being so absolutely corrupt. That is the legacy that LBJ left America---criminals and corruption leading the country for the profits of the few on the inside control.

[Paul Trejo]

If "Bishop" was seen with Oswald as per Fonzi via Vechiana

Who is the show for and by whom?.

Atlee-Phillips wanted Vechiana to

"see" but not know.

Or was Vechiana supposed to let the cat out of the bag?.

Is this why Vechiana did not completely ID Atlee Phillips ?.

Were they still of use to each other?.

Ian,

You seem to think that David Atlee Phillips wanted Veciana to see LHO with him (Phillips). I wonder if someone else could have wanted Veciana to see Oswald with Phillips. Or maybe Phillips just wanted Veciana to see Lee and was just a little careless. Or maybe he was just really, really careless...

--Tommy

Well, Tommy and Ian, if Antonio Veciana is correct, then his testimony clearly involves the CIA in the plot being set up by Bannister and Ferrie, IMHO. IMHO it was not a plot by the CIA, but only a plot by Bannister and Ferrie, largely on behalf of General Walker. The CIA just played along as they could.

Bannister and Ferrie enjoyed working with Cuban Exiles. They had participated in varying degrees in the Bay of Pigs fiasco. They were especially impressed with the DRE and Carlos Bringuier, as well as Ed Butler, who was the head of INCA, a sort of 'Radio Free America' for the airwaves over Cuba.

The CIA had a lot of money for DRE and INCA, just as they had a lot of money for the CRC and Alpha-66 and other Cuban Exile revolutionary groups that trained their operators at Lake Pontchartrain in Louisiana. But their direct handlers were Bannister and Ferrie. David Ferrie was always valuable because he spoke such fluent Spanish, and had ample special ops experience. So, of course the CIA was involved at Lake Pontchartrain, and so of course the CIA was involved with Bannister and Ferrie, and therefore, at some level, with Lee Harvey Oswald.

The question that Ian asked is a good one -- was CIA executive David Atlee Phillips trying to impress Lee Harvey Oswald, or was he trying to impress Antonio Veciana?

(1) If D.A. Phillips was trying to impress L.H. Oswald, then the meeting was meant to bolster Oswald's ego and courage. The CIA was told that Oswald was going to trick his way into Cuba and kill Fidel Castro. That was the Major Goal of the year. Oswald might have had second thoughts (e.g. Marina remembers Lee in the kitchen one night during this period, just sobbing to himself). So D.A. Phillips proved to Oswald that the CIA was behind him, and so was Alpha-66.

(2) If D.A. Phillips was trying to impress Antonio Veciana, then the meeting was to challenge Veciana's ego and courage. Veciana had not yet overthrown Fidel Castro as he promised, despite all the money that the CIA had given to Alpha-66. Here, in the flesh, was the Marine sharp-shooter, the legendary Lee Harvey Oswald, who would finally get the job done, if Alpha-66 should fail one more time.

(3) If D.A. Phillips was particularly manipulative, he might have been able to accomplish (1) and (2) at one in the same meeting, saving lots of time for everybody's busy schedule.

If D.A. Phillips knew about the Walker-Bannister-Ferrie plot to assassinate JFK in Dallas on 11/22/1963, he probably knew about it from a distance. He might have known he was helping Bannister and Ferrie to sheep-dip Oswald, but it is unclear whether Phillips knew all the details about the Dallas side of the plot.

The CIA, in my opinion, like the FBI, was another observer, swimming in all the bragging, boasting, promising and rumors thrown around by the extreme right-wing regarding details of how either Castro or Kennedy would be shot. The ones in full control were the ones who controlled Oswald fully. That was a Dallas role, and not a New Orleans role, or a Mexico role (and D.A. Phillips was the Mexico CIA executive).

Best regards,

--Paul Trejo

Edited June 22, 2012 by Paul Trejo

[Thomas Graves]

Ian, there was a meeting about gun running on the morning of Nov 22 and Ellsworth was invited, Army intelligence and the DPD were all over the Terrell armory theft, Masen's involvement, the Fort Hood connection etc. Its very probable that Ruby was acting as a middleman in the armory theft and its also possible that looking for weapons trade going to the Cuban exile shoppers in Dallas was on Oswald's watch list. Fortunately we now have documents and research by some diligent folks on all this. Ellesworth was working one end via Masen and had no idea that the 112th was all over it based on informant information on Cuban exile gun prospecting in Dallas...

If you happen to have SWHT check out chapters 11 and 12 for details. Chapter 11 sort of gives the gist of it with a Ruby quote - "Cuba, the guns, New Orleans, everything!". It was all very much on Jack's mind.

-- Larry

Larry,

I gotta ask:

In your considered opinion, is it possible LHO was providing (or thought he was providing) the 112th with info about the "gun-prospecting" activities of anti-Castro Cubans in Dallas? (Or to anyone else, for that matter?)

Thanks,

--Tommy

Edited June 22, 2012 by Thomas Graves

[Paul Trejo]

Jim Phelps wrote:

LHO's dream as a kid was to be a secret agent, and he got a chance for working the Russians to screw up the Peace making by Russia with Eisenhower. LHO was sent to Russia to aggrivate the U-2 fly over problems and put an end to Russian Peace efforts with Eisenhower.

LHO didn't work officially for the CIA, but more for private interests like PERMINDEX and side line Joint Chief pals tha wanted a quick nuclear war with Russia. The U-2 was the first leg of the plan an the second was put a Russian Sympathizer killing JFK, which would give the push to attack Russia with nukes that many in high places wanted.

LHO knew the group he was watching was going to hit JFK and LHO was busy ratting them out to the FBI, but the FBI was about a crooked as the plotters that wanted JFK out of the way and a nice quick war with Russia. LHO game was to break up the plot and become the national hero, but the forces went way to high and he was killed to keep his mouth shut as he knew way too much. The muscle to kill LHO was Jack Ruby, because Jack Ruby knew the Israel factors would come out if the plot to make a single lone nut shooter failed to work.

With all the information dumped to get LHO, all the other real shooters got away. LHO made a good cover for the real killers to make their runs out of town.

LHO was supposed to became a huge profit for the war industries to make more weapons and nuclear bombs, but LBJ quickly got cold feet on letting that happen on a large scale and paid them off with Vietnam.

There was about no way that LHO could remain alive at that point, because the whole plan depended on LHO being the only shooter, and they really needed him to be the dead only shooter and never going to trial.

Thus, the goals of a young boy to become a sort of secret agent led to his being used in ways that he would never had imagined due to the higher up levels of the Govt being so absolutely corrupt. That is the legacy that LBJ left America---criminals and corruption leading the country for the profits of the few on the inside control.

jp

Jim, although I believe your views have some merit, you don't get down to the ground crew, and IMHO that's what current work should emphasize.

Several of your points ring true in my theory:

(1) Oswald wanted to be a spy since he was little, perhaps to please his older brother, a Marine, who was his substitute father;

(2) Oswald wanted to save the world;

(3) Oswald became manipulated by rogue forces in the Intelligence network, partly because he was young and impressionable, naive and ungrounded;

(4) There was a counter-movement in Military Intelligence that wanted a right-wing course;

(5) That counter-movement got a big boost from ex-Nazi officers who joined the US Government in great numbers;

(6) The rationale of the ex-Nazi allies of the USA was that the USA was like Dumbo, big and dumb, and did not realize that the real purpose of WW2 was to smash Communism; so they smashed Germany instead;

(7) So the ex-Nazi officers would show the USA the correct way to go; first, with better rockets and missiles;

(8) General Edwin Walker came into contact with some of these ex-Nazi officers when he was stationed in Augsburg, Germany, in late 1959.

(9) One of those ex-Nazi officers was Dr. Gerhard Frey, a propaganda expert who had served under Joseph Goebbels, and was in 1963 the Editor of the Deutsche Nationalzeitung.

Given that scenario, Jim, I would add a few points of my own:

1) When Walker could not be found among his own officers in Germany, the Overseas Weekly newspaper tried to track down where Walker went. This is why Walker attacked them so often.

2) David Lifton reported that Gerry Patrick Hemming told him that Lee Harvey Oswald met General Walker briefly in Germany, and showed Oswald some tricks to help Oswald weasel into the USSR.

3) In the early morning after the JFK assassination, ex-General Walker made a transatlantic phone call to the Deutsche Nationalzeitung. Dr. Gerhard Frey was part of that correspondence.

4) Walker told reporter Helmut Muench (alias Hasso Thorston) that: (i) Lee Harvey Oswald had also been Walker's escaped shooter on 10 April 1963; (ii) Oswald was arrested by the DPD; (iii) Oswald was released by the DPD on 'higher' orders that very night.

5) Dr. Frey liked that story, and added a feature -- that it was RFK who ordered the release of Oswald that night, and if RFK had not interfered, his brother would still be alive today.

6) It is well known that Walker's main contacts in the USA were all members of the John Birch Society. Walker would hardly trust anybody else.

7) The John Birch Society (JBS) was rabidly Anticommunist, and largely took the ex-Nazi position that nothing else should ever matter except the defeat of Communism. FDR was a Communist, the JBS said, because he made deals with Stalin. Truman was a Communist, the JBS said, because he dismissed General Douglas MacArthur from his command in Korea. Eisenhower was a Communist, the JBS said, because he advocated Earl Warren's Supreme Court that mandated racial integration in public schools. And JFK was a Communist, they said, because he tolerated not only the USSR, but also the Communist take-over of Cuba, just 90 miles from the USA.

8) The business manager of Walker's company, "American Eagle Publishing," was Robert Allen Surrey, who was also the publisher for the American Nazi Party. Surrey was also the long-time bridge partner of FBI agent, James Hosty.

9) The extreme right-wing -- basically ex-Nazi and neo-Nazi types -- were at the center of Walker's world. Walker, in turn, would manipulate Lee Harvey Oswald to be the patsy in the JFK plot.

10) Walker's ultimate hope -- and that of all extreme rightists in the USA and in Germany, too, was that the USA would react to the JFK assassination by invading Cuba. That was the rightist passion of the 1960's.

11) I don't believe that LBJ got cold feet. But although most Americans hate Communism, they hate Nazi skunks even more. LBJ knew that. He would not risk a Civil War.

Best regards,

--Paul Trejo

Edited June 22, 2012 by Paul Trejo

[Thomas Graves]

So okay, does anyone here think General Edwin Anderson Walker might have had anything to do with the manipulating of Lee Harvey Oswald into being the "just a patsy" figure that Oswald himself told reporters that he was?

If so, how?

Thank you,,

--Tommy

Tommy, I think the ex-General Edwin A. Walker manipulated Lee Harvey Oswald into being the JFK plot's patsy. Here, in a super-brief summary, is how I think it was done:

1. In the first part of 1962, General Walker had been in the papers because Walker: (i) was kicked out of his command in Germany by JFK because he spread John Birch Society materials to his 10,000 Troops there (and pushed them to vote his way); (ii) so he resigned from the Army in protest and started a career imitating segregationist preacher, Reverend Billy James Hargis and oil billionaire H.L. Hunt; (iii) was so successful as a right-wing rabble-rouser that in March, 1962 he decided to run for Governor of Texas (funded by H.L. Hunt); (iv) he testified to the Senate Subcommitee on Military Indoctrination with feeble excuses for his clash with the Army newspaper, Overseas Weekly, which exposed him; (v) he received more negative press which led to his loss in his bid for Governor (he came in last place). Walker was probably feeling petulant around June of 1962.

2. In June of 1962, Lee Harvey Oswald decided he didn't like the USSR anymore, and was allowed to return to the USA with his Russian wife, Marina.

3. George De Mohrenschildt, an aristocratic playboy with a wealthy wife, could speak several languages and was well-educated and savvy in politics, also had Anticommunist spying experience in Europe, so the CIA trusted him with odd contracts. George was also a geology professor at UT, and was hungry for a major oil contract, and the CIA made him a trade -- find out about Lee Oswald (is he a KGB plant) in exchange for connections to a lucrative oil contract in Haiti. George took the job.

4. In June of 1962, Lee Harvey Oswald proved to be an unhappy camper. Work was too hard and money was too little. Everybody had more money than he did; especially George De Mohrenschildt's friend, George Bouhe, who liked Marina so well that he brought her gifts and money all the time. Lee started beating Marina for the first time. George De Mohrenschildt helped them move, helped them find places, helped Lee find another job, and generally treated Lee like a spoiled child for the rest of 1962.

5. In September, 1962, General Walker found a new calling -- he would join Governor Ross Barnett of Mississippi in opposing the Supreme Court ruling to racially integrate Ole Miss University in Oxford, Mississippi (with one black student, James Meredith). Walker sent JFK a hostile open letter and broadcasted over the radio a call for ten thousand protesters to come to Jackson, Mississippi. (When asked by a reporter if he expected these protesters to bring their guns, Walker said, "That's up to them!" Walker's intent was to act if and when JFK ordered Federal Troops to force the racial integration (as Eisenhower had done in Little Rock, Arkansas in 1957).

6. Thousands of protesters did show up at Ole Miss, and JFK did send in thousands of Federal Troops, and Walker did lead the protesters in resisting the Federal marshals. The protests turned into riots in which hundreds were wounded and two were killed. But in the end, James Meredith was admitted to the college. RFK arrested Walker the next morning and had him committed to an Army mental hospital for a 90-day evaluation. That was a big mistake. Five days later the ex-General Edwin A. Walker was released with an apology. (You don't mix politics with psychiatry.)

7. In January of 1963, a Grand Jury in Oxford Mississippi heard Walker's case, and acquitted him; they dropped all charges. Yes, partly it was because the case was about race integration, and this was Mississippi in 1963. But partly it was due to the fact that Walker claimed he was really there in Oxford trying to calm everybody down, and the Grand Jury believed him. This made the papers yet again.

8. At this point Walker exulted and began suing every American newspaper that had said bad things about him (and his lawyers sought $30 million all told, which would be $300 million in today's dollars). They thought they were set for life. In further exultation, Reverend Billy James Hargis and ex-General Edwin A. Walker began a new speaking tour, called the "Midnight Ride" which would go from Florida to Los Angeles in 26 stops over six weeks.

9. Also in January of 1963, George De Mohrenschildt was getting tired of hearing Lee Oswald whine. One of Lee's many complaints (very common amongst Marines) was that JFK let America down at the Bay of Pigs. So, George got ahold of his engineer friend, Volkmar Schmidt, who had a plan to 'convert' Oswald and change his thinking. The plan was to have a big party of young professionals with close ties to the Russian Exile community in Dallas, and invite the Oswalds. There, Volkmar would work on Lee Oswald and 'transfer' his hostile feelings from JFK to General Walker. He worked on Oswald for more than an hour. Also at the party were Michael and Ruth Paine, who were also critics of General Walker. (Perhaps, too, Larrie Schmidt, an ambitious social-climber, may have been at that party, as there is some evidence that Larrie knew George De Mohrenschildt.)

10. Volkmar's treatment worked. Soon after that party, Lee Oswald (perhaps in an effort to please his new friends, or just to please George De Mohrenschildt) purchased a rifle and a gun, and made a fake ID for himself at his place of employment. Lee had Marina take one picture of himself with his gun and rifle, and Lee then used the photographic equipment at his job (at Jaggers-Chiles-Stovall) to make several different poses. Oswald also starting taking pictures of Walker's home, and processing the photos at his job. He got carried away, and he was fired from his job.

11. Lee didn't tell Marina he was fired. For nearly a month he got up as usual and "went to work" as far as she knew. Actually, he was perfecting his plan. He continued to talk with George De Mohrenschildt about General Walker, and they called him "General Fokker," just as they called Volkmar Schmidt, "Messer Schmidt".

12. On April 9, 1963, ex-General Walker returned from his "Midnight Ride" speaking tour, and heard from the police that there had been a pair of prowlers outside his home the night before.

13. According to Larrie's brother, Bob Schmidt, he, Larrie and Lee Oswald drove to Walker's home at 4011 Turtle Creek Blvd in Dallas on 10 April 1963 at 9 PM, and tried to kill Walker with a rifle. The shot grazed the window sill and so was deflected from its target. Walker was very disturbed by this brazen attack. (For the rest of his life he believed that RFK tried to kill him for his role in the Ole Miss scandal.)

14. George and Jeanne De Mohrenschildt lost sleep -- they were worried that Lee Harvey Oswald may have been the shooter. Three days later they worked up their courage and they bought a toy bunny to take to the Oswalds' baby. On April 13, at 10 PM, when the Oswalds were asleep, the De Mohrenschildts woke them up, barged in with the bunny for the baby, and under the pretext of admiring their apartment, Jeanne found Oswald's rifle -- with a scope on it. "Look, George," said Jeanne, "They have a rifle." George joked to Lee, "Lee, did you take a pot-shot at General Walker?" Lee Oswald froze and so did Marina. They knew they never told a soul, so how did George guess it? Then George started laughing and they all laughed and that was the end of the visit. The De Mohrenschildt's moved to Haiti and never saw the Oswalds again.

15. The next day, however, Easter Sunday 14 April 1963, George De Mohrenschildt could not resist the urge to tell somebody, so he told his two good friends, Mr. and Mrs. Igor Voshinin about his suspicions that Lee Harvey Oswald had been General Walker's shooter. They readily agreed that Lee was just hot-headed enough to do this. After George left, Mrs. Voshinin called the FBI right away, and told them about George's suspicions. (This vignette is found in Dick Russell's book, TMWKTM.)

16. Here is where my theory begins. I believe that the FBI now told ex-General Edwin Walker (or told somebody who told ex-General Walker) no later than Easter Sunday 14 April 1963, that Lee Harvey Oswald was a suspect in his 10 April 1963 shooting. In Walker's mind, the pieces would fit -- RFK was a Communist, he thought, and Oswald was a Communist, and it was always clear to Walker that the Communists were out to get him.

17. Walker, a leading member of the Texas Minutemen paramilitary organization, decided to exact paramilitary justice on this loose-cannon Marine. He contacted a leading member of the Louisiana Minutemen, namely, Guy Bannister, and told Bannister about Lee Harvey Oswald. Guy Bannister had a loyal friend (and a member of the Minutemen) named David Ferrie, who actually knew Oswald. They concocted a plan to entrap Oswald and exact paramilitary justice.

18. The plan was something like this. Offer Oswald vast riches and a chance for fame, and maybe even a parade and a chance to run for President, if he would do one simple thing -- kill Fidel Castro. It was easy for any officer of the FPCC to get into Cuba through Mexico, they claimed. All Oswald would have to do -- with his vast talents -- would be to mock up some street credentials in the newspaper, radio and TV to make it look like he was a real officer of the FPCC, and he could get into Cuba through Mexico the same day!

19. Oswald took the bait, and in only a matter of a few days he moved to New Orleans, Louisiana, leaving Marina and June behind with Ruth Paine, to catch up later. In a few more days Oswald had a menial job at a coffee company, a couple of blocks from Guy Bannister's office at 544 Camp Street.

20. Soon Marina joined Oswald, and for a few weeks they lived a normal life -- or so she thought. Actually, in just a few weeks Oswald would be fired again, although he wouldn't tell Marina -- Lee would just get up in the morning as usual, and do other things as she believed Lee was at work. Lee was busy getting himself in the newspapers, on the radio and on TV, as a fake official of the FPCC. (Lee did this with the help of Carlos Bringuier and Ed Butler, who were two Batista Cubans who were as right-wing as possible; they were propaganda experts, and they had CIA funding for anything they wanted to do that could possibly hurt Fidel Castro.)

21. When the sheep-dip was done in Septemgber, 1963, Marina moved back with Ruth Paine, and Oswald traveled to Mexico to try out his plan. (In the meantime, Oswald had been warned by Richard Case Nagell that if he succeeds in getting a Visa to Cuba, Nagell would have to kill him to protect his own cover as well as Fidel Castro. Also, Oswald had been warned by Bannister and Ferrie that if he failed to get into Cuba and kill Fidel Castro, Oswald would be drafted into a plot to kill JFK, because they always knew that Oswald tried to kill Walker, so Oswald's life wasn't worth a nickel anymore.)

22. The Mexico effort failed miserably. Oswald trudged back to Dallas to meet his fate. Luckily, his role in the JFK plot would be very minimal -- he would only bring his rifle to the TSBD, and then forget about it. Soon, thought Oswald, he would be free from this entire nightmare.

There it is, Tommy, a thumbnail summary of my theory about how General Walker (working with Bannister and Ferrie, along with the Minutemen and the John Birch Society) made Lee Harvey Oswald into a patsy.

Best regards,

--Paul Trejo

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Paul,

Sounds good to me!

Now, in one of your posts (on another thread?), you said recently that David Ferrie called LHO in Dallas and, in so many words, enticed him to move immediately to New Orleans. Sounds plausible to me, but I wonder if you're "speculating" just a teensie-weensie bit on this, or if it's something that's been documented somewhere and that I've somehow missed it in my (very) hit-and-miss "research" efforts?

Thanks,

--Tommy

Edited June 25, 2012 by Thomas Graves

[Paul Trejo]

Paul,

Sounds good to me!

Now, in one of your posts (on another thread?), you said recently that David Ferrie called LHO in Dallas and, in so many words, enticed him to move immediately to New Orleans. Sounds plausible to me, but I wonder if you're "speculating" just a teensie-weensie bit on this, or if it's something that's been documented somewhere and that I've somehow missed it in my (very) hit-and-miss "research" efforts?

Thanks,

--Tommy

Tommy, that is speculation on my part. There is no record of that anywhere, but it is part of my general theory in which ex-General Edwin Walker, along with the Minutemen paramilitary organization, made Lee Harvey Oswald into the patsy of his plot.

I have written evidence from Walker's personal papers showing his life-long obsession with Lee Harvey Oswald after 10 April 1963, and his repeated belief that Oswald had been arrested on 10 April 1963 for the "April Crime," and for his belief that RFK hired Oswald to kill Walker, and that RFK let Oswald go after the DPD arrested him. This was Walker's stated belief, beginning with his interview in the Deutsche Nationalzeitung on 23 November 1963 and enduring until his very last newspaper article in 1992.

Here's a link to the former: http://www.pet880.com/images/19631129_Deutsche_NZ.jpg

Here's a link to the latter: http://www.pet880.co...ld_arrested.pdf

Now, as Dick Russell said in TMWKTM, four days after the April shooting, George De Mohrenshildt told Mr. and Mrs. Igor Voshinin that Oswald was probably Walker's shooter. Mrs. Voshinin said she told the FBI right away. That was on Easter Sunday, 1963. I speculate (with good reason) that Walker was informed that very day. Walker therefore believed that Oswald was his shooter on Easter Sunday, 1963, and he was worried that Oswald had not been retained in custody. He concluded that somebody let Oswald go -- probably RFK -- and this added to his paranoia.

So, in my theory, ex-General Walker, who was a member of the Texas Minutemen, called up Guy Banister, who was also a member of the Louisana Minutemen, and they devised a plan of paramilitary justice for Lee Harvey Oswald.

Since David Ferrie worked for Guy Banister, and since David Ferrie also served as a paramilitary advisor at Lake Pontchartrain, and since David Ferrie personally knew Lee Harvey Oswald from his youth, David Ferrie would be Oswald's personal handler in this plan. (And as the dates show, Oswald arrived in New Orleans within two weeks of Easter Sunday, 1963.)

You can see that most of that is speculation on my part, Tommy, however, I believe that some clues are readily available, now that the personal papers of ex-General Walker are open to the public at the Dolph Briscoe Center for the Study of American History in Austin, Texas.

Best regards,

--Paul Trejo

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Edited June 26, 2012 by Paul Trejo

[Paul Trejo]

I would add that, in order to support my theory, I am currently in the market for any and all materials that link-up ex-General Edwin A. Walker with Lee Harvey Oswald. On the top of my list are:

(1) The Jack Martin Film, a home movie that first displays the bullet holes in ex-General Walker's home from the 10 April 1963 attack, and then displays Lee Harvey Oswald being arrested on Canal Street for 'fighting' with Carlos Bringuier. According to Harold Weisberg records, the young Jack Martin (about 23 years old at the time of this film) had been a soldier under General Walker in the 24th Infantry Division in Augsburg, Germany, and furthermore, was a member of the Minutemen at the time of this film. (I believe this home movie was originally planned to be a part of the sheep-dip of Lee Harvey Oswald.)

(2) Any possible way to contact this particular Jack Martin, who would be about 72 years old, today.

(3) The sealed NARA film of television interviews of ex-General Edwin Walker as he plans the riots at Ole Miss in 1962, because I believe he will provide clues regarding his tendencies to radical, domestic violence.

(4) The sealed FBI records of Guy Banister's activities from April through September 1963.

(5) Any possible way to contact Larrie Schmidt, who should be about 74 years old, today.

Best regards,

--Paul Trejo

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Edited June 26, 2012 by Paul Trejo

[Thomas Graves]

I would add that, in order to support my theory, I am currently in the market for any and all materials that link-up ex-General Edwin A. Walker with Lee Harvey Oswald. On the top of my list are:

(1) The Jack Martin Film, a home movie that first displays the bullet holes in ex-General Walker's home from the 10 April 1963 attack, and then displays Lee Harvey Oswald being arrested on Canal Street for 'fighting' with Carlos Bringuier. According to Harold Weisberg records, the young Jack Martin (about 23 years old at the time of this film) had been a soldier under General Walker in the 24th Infantry Division in Augsburg, Germany, and furthermore, was a member of the Minutemen at the time of this film. (I believe this home movie was originally planned to be a part of the sheep-dip of Lee Harvey Oswald.)

(2) Any possible way to contact this particular Jack Martin, who would be about 72 years old, today.

(3) The sealed NARA film of television interviews of ex-General Edwin Walker as he plans the riots at Ole Miss in 1962, because I believe he will provide clues regarding his tendencies to radical, domestic violence.

(4) The sealed FBI records of Guy Banister's activities from April through September 1963.

(5) Any possible way to contact Larrie Schmidt, who should be about 74 years old, today.

Best regards,

--Paul Trejo

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Paul,

A bump for this post and a question about something you said in an earlier post:

How could George DM possibly be worried that LHO hadn't been retained in custody after "The April Crime" when he hadn't even been detained for that shooting in the first place?

--Tommy

Edited June 29, 2012 by Thomas Graves

[Paul Trejo]

Paul,

...How could George DM possibly be worried that LHO hadn't been retained in custody after "The April Crime" when he hadn't even been detained for that shooting in the first place?

--Tommy

Tommy, when we click on the two links I provided above in my post about Walker's paranoia, we see that Walker's fantasy -- that he first put into print less than 24 hours after the JFK assassination (via the Deutsche Nationalzeitung in Germany) -- was all about an imagnary scenario in which Lee Harvey Oswald was actually in DPD custody by midnight on 10 April 1963.

Here's yet another link (courtesy the Dolph Briscoe Center for the Study of American History) from 1967 from Edwin Walker's typewriter. Please examine the final paragraph of this document. This is how Walker's mind worked. He doggedly maintained this belief for the rest of his days.

http://www.pet880.com/images/19670404_EAW_Oswald_released.pdf

Best regards,

--Paul Trejo

Edited June 30, 2012 by Paul Trejo

[Thomas Graves]

Ian, there was a meeting about gun running on the morning of Nov 22 and Ellsworth was invited, Army intelligence and the DPD were all over the Terrell armory theft, Masen's involvement, the Fort Hood connection etc. Its very probable that Ruby was acting as a middleman in the armory theft and its also possible that looking for weapons trade going to the Cuban exile shoppers in Dallas was on Oswald's watch list. Fortunately we now have documents and research by some diligent folks on all this. Ellesworth was working one end via Masen and had no idea that the 112th was all over it based on informant information on Cuban exile gun prospecting in Dallas...

If you happen to have SWHT check out chapters 11 and 12 for details. Chapter 11 sort of gives the gist of it with a Ruby quote - "Cuba, the guns, New Orleans, everything!". It was all very much on Jack's mind.

-- Larry

Larry,

I gotta ask:

Do you think it's possible that LHO was the one who was providing the 112th Army Intelligence unit with info about the "gun-prospecting" activities of anti-Castro Cubans in Dallas?

Thanks,

--Tommy

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Edited March 6, 2013 by Thomas Graves

[Larry Hancock]

Hi Tommy, sorry not to have responded earlier but I only check in here periodically and missed your question.

If you have SWHT I got into considerable detail on this in Chapter 12, the good news is that we have an extensive

document trail on several areas of the exile efforts to buy guns in Dallas as well as the sting that was organized

against it, in particular Masen's efforts to find guns for them. The original informant on all this was George Nonte at

Fort Hood. He went to Army intel with Masen's efforts to get guns from Fort Hood and that report was circulated

within the 112th. Independently, We have the exact names of who Masen's potential Miami and Dallas customers were.

Independently, Ellesworth of ATF was targeting Masen, who had become known for his gun and explosives sales.

However initially Ellesworth did not know and was not told of the Army intel info, which was shared with the FBI but

not the ATF. That is most likely because the FBI had a particular interest in getting ahead of the Cuban exiles in

potential attacks on Cuba and they had some local office folks on that beat - unfortunately although we know about

that now, very few of the documents relating to their per-assassination inquiries have become available.

So, in a long winded answer, no I don't think the 112th was hearing from Oswald. On the other hand I think its very

possible that Oswald was being either directly or indirectly run against Cuban exiles in Dallas in regard to gun

dealing - not sure how we will ever prove that but its would be consistent with his activities in New Orleans. Now if there

was a surveillance team observing the comings and goings at the Harlandale house *as has been rumored), that might be

another story. If the Dallas FBI field office files still existed and we could get our hands on them....but since that

was all per-assassination, they don't seemed to have been sucked up in the records collection and are most likely long gone.

Edited March 6, 2013 by Larry Hancock