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COLBY START //

Like you I'm cautiously optimistic about Mursi, he talks the talk of a moderate let's see if the military let's him do anything and if he walks the walk if they do.

During the Cold War conservatives assumed any nationalist movement aided by the Cubans or Soviets was evil, unfortunately many 'progressives' today make equally simplistic assumptions in reverse, any movement favored by the US is evil.

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Gee Len ,Mohammed Mursi optmistic about him ?? How can that be. He is INSANE, Right ?? Hes a 911 TRUTHER !!!!!!!!!!

That might be the case but IF he does what he says he should be a OK president.

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Gee, I hope the CIA is arming the Free Syrian Army, somebody should. I'm disappointed in the LIbyans, they have all the guns now, and should share them with fellow revolutionaries in Syria.

Besides the Russians and Turks and Iranians, I don't know who is designing the new Syria, but I recall a scene near the end of the film Lawrence of Arabia where, after they take Akaba - and march on Damacus, the British counsel is asked about the fueding Arab militias, each of which has taken over a key industrial element of the city, and he responds saying something to the effect that he surmisses the power will be run by one, the waterworks run by another, and the radio by another. The Arabs couldn't agee on anything, then or now.

As for Egypt, we are seeing the Muslem Brother take over the presidency, the military run the infrastructure and with an Islamic leader saying that women and christians and the Jews have nothing to fear, because he knows that if he imposes Islamic law against those people who led the revolution he will become a victim himself.

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THE ROAD TO FREEDOM ???????

Confirmed: Iraq orders closure of BBC and 43 other media outlets

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: 25 June, 2012, 18:46

Iraq's communications and media commission announced the impending closure of several media outlets, including the BBC and Voice of America. While officials chalk the matter up to expired license fees, press freedom groups fear a looming crackdown.

RT was one of the first to publish reports of the potential closures – and can now confirm that Iraqi officials from the media commission have forwarded the list of 44 outlets to the Interior Ministry. They will be the ones responsible for the actual closures once they begin.

Only offices without an operating license will be closed down, the commission’s chairman Safaa Rabie told journalists.

"It is an organizational matter, not a crackdown on the press," Rabie said.

However, one broadcaster targeted for closure – US-funded Radio Sawa – says it does have a license.

"We were surprised to see our radio station on the list because we think that we work in accordance with all Iraqi laws," Sawa deputy director Salah Nasrawi said.

He refused to speculate on why their station might have ended up on the list, but others were less cautious.

Iraqi press freedom group Journalistic Freedoms Observatory (JFO) claims the move is a clear warning from Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

"It is a government message to the media outlets that if you are not with us, then you are against us," JFO head Ziyad al-Aajely said in a telephone interview with the Associated Press.

So far, no action against any media outlet has been taken – and many of them, like the BBC, are trying to negotiate the renewal of their license with Iraqi authorities.

"The delay is due to technicalities," said the company’s statement. "The BBC's journalists in Baghdad are not currently experiencing any issues reporting from the country, and it is important that the BBC and other international news organizations are able to operate freely and bring independent and impartial news to audiences in Iraq and the wider region."

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The Iraqis back off of this it seem to have been more bureaucratic than totalitarian.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/middle-east/2012/06/26/iraq-backs-off-forcing-media-outlets-closed/iFTejxN0OC9CjNYgV5bImN/story.html

The Arabs couldn't agee on anything, then or now. // BILL KELLY QUOTING SOMEONE THAT HE AGREES WITH

================ I GAAL respond and say =

GEE BILL DID WE WAKE UP ON THE ethnocentric racist SIDE OF THE BED TODAY ??????????? (of course here is were Colby rmaks an idiotic remark," Gaal dosent know ethnocentric/racist are not the same.") I know the difference and Bill qualifies for both words, its 'white mans BURDEN to Democratize the Middle East'.

Quite ironic considering Gaal's obvious antipathy for Jews.

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COLBY START //

Like you I'm cautiously optimistic about Mursi, he talks the talk of a moderate let's see if the military let's him do anything and if he walks the walk if they do.

During the Cold War conservatives assumed any nationalist movement aided by the Cubans or Soviets was evil, unfortunately many 'progressives' today make equally simplistic assumptions in reverse, any movement favored by the US is evil.

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Gee Len ,Mohammed Mursi optmistic about him ?? How can that be. He is INSANE, Right ?? Hes a 911 TRUTHER !!!!!!!!!!

That might be the case but IF he does what he says he should be a OK president.

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Gee the 911 part to me is the sane part

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http://blog.buzzflash.com/node/13571 (see for links cited)

Truthout Revealed That at Least Some Bush Administration DoD Officials Knew of Potential 9/11 Targets

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06/26/2012 - 1:26pm. EditorBlog

MARK KARLIN, EDITOR OF BUZZFLASH AT TRUTHOUT

BuzzFlash at Truthout has recently run two commentaries on the failure of the Bush administration to prevent 9/11 (based on recently declassified documents) and his inexplicable prolonged elementary school visit, even after being informed of both of the Twin Towers being hit.

Last year, however, in an extraordinary series of investigative reports with Truthout's Jason Leopold as the lead journalist, it was revealed that a Department of Defense (DoD), Asymmetric Threats Division (also referred to as DO5, a branch of the Joint Forces Intelligence Command (JFIC)) was "ordered to stop tracking his [Osama bin Laden's] movements prior to 9/11"

Focusing on the June 13th installment, which Jeffrey Kaye wrote with Leopold, a former member of the Asymmetric Threats Division (DO5) known by the pseudonym "Iron Man" makes the shocking claim that his unit was aware of the 9/11 targets prior to that disastrous day. This passage from the June 13th Truthout article is so significant that BuzzFlash is quoting it at length:

Iron Man further elaborated on this point by stating that high-level DoD officials held discussions about DO5's intelligence activities between the summer of 2000 and June 2001 revolving around al-Qaeda's interest in striking the Pentagon, the World Trade Center (WTC), and other targets.

In other words, the Bush administration was fully aware the terrorist organization had set its sights on those structures prior to 9/11 and, apparently, government officials failed to act on those warnings.

For example, Iron Man states in his letter that in the summer of 2000, DO5 briefed USJFCOM senior intelligence officials and staffers, including the deputy commander in chief, on the "WMD Threat to the U.S."

Iron Man describes a "sensitive," "oral briefing" that took place that summer "indicating that the World Trade Centers #1 and #2 were the most likely buildings to be attacked [by al-Qaeda], followed closely by the Pentagon. The briefer indicated that the worst case scenario would be one tower collapsed onto another."

Furthermore, as he states in his letter, Iron Man was certain that such a scenario was part of a "red cell analysis" discussion that took place prior to the intelligence briefing and included a finding that the buildings "could be struck by a jetliner." He wrote that there was a suggestion about alerting WTC security and engineering or architectural staff, "but the idea was not further explored because of a command climate discouraging contact with the civilian community."

In a subsequent Truthout article, Leopold and Kaye wrote that "new documents suggest DoD watchdog covered up intelligence unit's work tracking 9/11 terrorists."

According to Leopold and Kaye, "Much of JFIC's work on al-Qaeda and Bin Laden remains shrouded in secrecy and has not been cited in media reports revolving around pre-9/11 intelligence, which has focused heavily over the past decade on CIA and FBI 'intelligence failures.' Only a few details about the military intelligence unit have surfaced since then, notably in two previous reports published recently by Truthout."

Leopold and Kaye note, "Senior Pentagon officials scrubbed key details about a top-secret military intelligence unit's efforts in tracking Osama bin Laden and suspected al-Qaeda terrorists from official reports they prepared for a Congressional committee probing the 9/11 terrorist attacks, new documents obtained by Truthout reveal."

How far up the chain of command the intelligence work of DO5 went is not clear, but it does provide more proof that at least some people working under the Bush administration were aware of the 9/11 scenario that occurred in advance of the actual suicide hijackings.

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You are too transparent Gaal when you can't come up with a better reply you lash out and insult the person you're debating with and/or change the subject. If you want to debate this weak 9/11 stuff start a new thread.

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You are too transparent Gaal when you can't come up with a better reply you lash out and insult the person you're debating with and/or change the subject. If you want to debate this weak 9/11 stuff start a new thread. // end COLBY

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Gee Len ,INSULT ?? Well you kinda agreed he was "insane" - "that might be the case..." // end Colby.

If your optimistic about an insane guy leading a large country,who am I to disagree ??

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Well whats transparent is that you call this 911 material weak. Yet ,its Colby that has a credability problem on 911. When I brought up the "NEW" PUT foreknowlege analysis,all you did was attack the credentialing of one of THREE economists. The team of TWO with expertise in PUT analysis and statistics you ignored them. LOL !! BTW Len, the one you attacked was a PhD in economics,he most likely had statistical education.

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What has created the opportunity for the balkanization of Syria has been the NEW WORLD Order made possible by 911.

Gee Not off topic at all.

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Now an editorial

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Is the Arab World Going To Suffer the Same Fate as Afghanistan?

By: Guy Bechor posted on Friday, Jun 22, 2012

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The "Afghanistanization" of the Arab world started a decade ago, with the disintegration of Lebanon and Iraq into militias, tribes and denominations; then it spread to the Palestinian Authority, Somalia and Yemen. Today, Lebanon is a militia — Hezbollah — that has a state. But the process got tremendous impetus from what is called “the Arab Spring.” The rest of the Arab countries are breaking up and disappearing, local identities rise in their place usually in the form of violent, armed militias. Not only is the Arab state disappearing but so are its institutions — a process passing over the entire Arab space and transforming it into the local version of Afghanistan. Nationalism is on the wane, and in its stead — rise of the militias.

About this Article

Summary:

The transformation of governance in the Arab world from authoritarian regimes to Islamic militias, tribes and communities started a decade ago, writes Guy Bechor. The Arab Spring has only sped up this process.

Publisher: Yedioth Ahronoth (Israel)

Original Title:

The Afghan effect

Author: Guy Bechor

Published on: Thursday, Jun 21, 2012

Translated On: Friday, Jun 22, 2012

Translator: Sandy Bloom

Categories : Analysis & Opinion Politics Israel Palestinian Authority

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Syria no longer exists as a state. Eventually, after years of infighting, it is expected to split into ethnic cantons with al-Qaeda celebrating amidst them. The Palestinian Authority continues to crumble; in Egypt, the state is falling, as is its institutions. Instead the military rises, as do radical Islamist movements. Egypt no longer has a Parliament or a constitution and even the office of the president is threatened with lack of legitimacy by many elements in the society.

The disintegration process is prominent in Libya, a country that was stable in the past. Today’s Libya is composed of scores of Islamic militias that are fighting one another. Recently one of the militias even took control of Tripoli’s international airport until its demands were met. Libya itself has been dismantled into two “states” that are hostile to one another: Tripolitania in the west and Cyrenaica in the east.

The same thing is also taking place in Algeria, where the Berber regions are splitting apart. Sinai was once a stable Egyptian stronghold that has become an al-Qaeda kingdom. The Red Sea has become the sea of al-Qaeda. Sudan has already broken up into two states and the third, Darfur, is on its way. Then there’s Iraq, whose Kurdistan region is almost completely autonomous, and an [independent] Sunni canton [entity], Salah a-Din, is being constructed in front of our eyes. Numerous armed militias operate freely in Iraq, as is evident in the suicide bombings that have become routine there.

Israel finds itself surrounded by Islamic organizations that are armed to their teeth. Instead of being surrounded by countries, it is surrounded by sovereign [terror] organizations. In the north — Hezbollah; northeast — crumbling Syria; southwest — Hamas and the other Palestinian terror organizations; the east — the Palestinian Authority, heading a long string of armed Islamic or clannish militias; the south — the Sinai desert with its terror, some of which come from as far away as Libya or Saudi. Only Jordan is still stable, though even there the stability is becoming undone.

The import of all this in terms of Israel is that a peace agreement with regimes is no longer possible. What is the point of reaching an understanding with the Palestinian Authority or Assad’s regime if they will be exchanged tomorrow for some Islamic militia and cease to exist? An agreement is not made for a year or two but for 100 years. Only a fool would reach an understanding with makeshift regimes that exist on paper.

History teaches us that every piece of Israeli territory that was evacuated for “peace” was seized by terrorist organizations. That is what took place in Sinai, in South Lebanon, the Gaza Strip and sections of Judea and Samaria. The entire world sees the terror that comes from Sinai and the Gaza Strip, areas that were once under Israeli rule. Even more, it is doubtful if the concept “Arab regime” even exists any longer.

In other words, the formula of “peace for territories” — based on a strong Arab regime and guarantees and long-term commitments for stability and order — no longer exists.

Ironically, the Arab Balkanization process and Afghan-effect relieves the pressure from Israel, and rightfully so. Everyone throughout the world sees the anarchy in the Arab space. Thus, Israel’s official stance against giving additional territorial concessions in vain, is becoming understandable, logical and accepted on wider and wider swathes of world public opinion.

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No you were the one who brought up Mursi's supposed views on 9/11, they have nothing to do with the topic of this thread and in case you missed it the US has been meddling in the Middle East and elsewhere since well before 2001. Also you are wrong the former candidate who is a truther is Abdel-Moneim Abolfotoh who was eliminated in the 1st round.

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Also you are wrong the former candidate who is a truther is Abdel-Moneim Abolfotoh who was eliminated in the 1st round. // END COLBY

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GEE LEN ITS CALLED GOOGLE SEARCH (heard of it ???)

Muslims for 9/11 Truth

Sunday, June 24, 2012

Egypt's new president "doubts al-Qaeda role in 9/11"

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Add Mohamed Morsi to the lists of heads of state who openly support 9/11 truth. Presidents Ahmadinejad of Iran, Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, former PM Mahathir Mohamad of Malaysia, and Fidel Castro of Cuba preceded him. -KB

Top Egyptian presidential candidate doubts al Qaeda role in 9/11

by Ben Birnbaum, The Washington Times

Mohamed Morsi

Egypt’s likely next president has long called for the U.S. to hold a “scientific conference” to determine the real culprits of the Sept. 11 attacks, having cast doubt on al Qaeda’s role in 9/11 for years.

“The U.S. administration has never presented any evidences on the identity of those who committed that incident,” longtime Muslim Brotherhood leader Mohamed Morsi is quoted as saying in a 2007 posting on Ikhwanweb, the Islamist group’s official English website.

“The Muslim Brotherhood and others demanded a transparent trial with clear evidence and to have court rulings,” he said after the sixth anniversary of the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people. “We confirm that this isn’t a defense to those who committed these actions, but we only seek the truth.”

Mr. Morsi last week won the most votes in the first round of Egypt’s presidential election, and he is heavily favored to win a runoff this month against secular former Prime Minister Ahmed Shafik.

He is not the only candidate to have floated conspiracy theories about the Sept. 11 attacks: Abdel Moneim Aboul Fotouh - a former Brotherhood figure who finished fourth in last week’s race - said last year that he believed 9/11 was “part of a conspiracy.”

Mr. Morsi’s remarks underscore the challenges the U.S. likely will face in a Brotherhood-dominated Egypt. The group’s Freedom and Justice Party won 47 percent of the seats in Egypt’s parliamentary elections and is expected to play a dominant role in crafting a new constitution.

A call for proof

While condemning the 9/11 attack “regardless of its doer,” Mr. Morsi lambasted the U.S. response to them, calling the Bush administration “the world’s terrorism leader” and accusing it of getting “in line with Israeli occupation forces in aggression, injustice, encroaching lands and raping women.”

According to the Brotherhood website’s characterization of his 9/11 remarks, Mr. Morsi said the U.S. invaded Afghanistan and Iraq “due to the U.S. administration claims that the doers of the 11 September attacks [were] Muslims, without proving such a thing until now.”

In 2008, Mr. Morsi called on the U.S. to provide “scientific” proof for its account of events.

“We have officially demanded a fair trial for 9/11 suspects and the issuance of a detailed scientific report about the attacks, but the U.S. administration did not respond till now,” Mr. Morsi told Ikhwanweb.

“This requires a huge scientific conference that is devoted to analyzing what caused the attack against a massive structure like the two WTC towers,” he said, referring to the World Trade Center. “Should this happen, we will stand firmly against whoever committed this horrific crime against innocent civilians.”

However, Osama bin Laden, the late al Qaeda leader, admitted his terror group’s involvement in the Sept. 11 attacks in a videotaped message in October 2004... (read complete story)

(False! Bin Laden repeatedly denied responsibility for 9/11, deplored the attacks, called them un-Islamic, and blamed "some people with their own agenda" and "American Jews" for the attacks in repeated statements before his death in December, 2001.)

Posted by Muslims for 9/11 Truth at 1:16 PM 0 comments

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Gee Len dont buy a put or call option on your knowledge of facts, STEVE HAS FOREKNOWLEDGE !!

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OK I stand corrected he is or at least was a truther, but your 911 crap is still irrelevant on this thread.

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Tut,Tut language sir. The new put option analysis is not refuted : THUS ELITE FOREKNOWLEGE EXISTED FOR 911.

###################################### As I posted before,911 has created conditions for Western powers Balkanization of Middle East thus === RELEVENT.

now BALKANIZATION SYRIAN ISSUE (its a issue , a real thing, not obscure blogger creation as YOU assert )

http://www.debka.com...ey-for-Al-Qaeda

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OK I stand corrected he is or at least was a truther, but your 911 crap is still irrelevant on this thread.

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Tut,Tut language sir. The new put option analysis is not refuted : THUS ELITE FOREKNOWLEGE EXISTED FOR 911.

###################################### As I posted before,911 has created conditions for Western powers Balkanization of Middle East thus === RELEVENT.

Using a similar rational one could bring up some irrelevant aspect of the Kennedy assassination on an unrelated thread because 'if it weren't for the Dallas coup xxx wouldn't have happened.

now BALKANIZATION SYRIAN ISSUE (its a issue , a real thing, not obscure blogger creation as YOU assert )

http://www.debka.com...ey-for-Al-Qaeda

Yes it seems that it is possible Syria could fracture along ethnic lines, which does not go to say that the revolt against Assad was engineered by outside forces to bring this about.

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My latest

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"LEN Colby 6/20 You seem to have already forgotten the sage advice you got from Evan"

Well I say.....

EVAN SAID THIS , EVAN SAID THAT,consistency is hobgoblin of little minds.

No, you got the quote wrong (what else is new?), get back to us when get it right and understand why your error was relevant.

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So have you figured out what you got wrong about the quote yet?

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http://www.activistp...estabilise.html

Bashar Al-Assad

Brit Dee, Contributor

Activist Post

President Bashar al-Assad of Syria has claimed that unnamed foreign governments are behind a three stage plan to destabilise the country and bring down his government.

Speaking to Turkish newspaper Cumhuriyet, al-Assad claimed that the first stage had been to pay demonstrators to take part in protests.

Protestors were initially paid $10, rising to $50 as it became clear to those funding the protests that creating another 'Tahrir Square' uprising was not going to be easy.

Assad claimed that:

They wanted to take people into streets like it was in Egypt or Tunisia. But they couldn't do it.

Having failed to trigger a popular uprising, the second stage of the plan was the creation of 'liberated' areas within the country. The attempt to militarise some territories, said al-Assad, was:

Like the Benghazi model in Libya. But our army didn't allow that.

In Libya's Benghazi, British SAS were on the ground advising and training rebels from the start of the supposedly spontaneous rebel uprising.

French, Quatari and Jordanian special forces also later aided the Libyan rebels, supported by NATO's massive and illegal air bombardment and resulting in Gaddafi's murder and his country's assimilation into the West's new world order.

The Syrian army's decisive crackdown on militarised rebel strongholds such as Homs has led to stage three in the foreign meddlers' plan - a campaign of brutal destabilisation involving, said al-Assad:

Assassinations, bombing of state institutions, massacres targeting civilians and kidnappings.

Whilst it is certainly possible that al-Assad is exaggerating or lying about foreign involvement in the destabilisation of Syria, a wealth of evidence supports his claims. It has been widely acknowledged that the Syrian Free Army are being armed by the West and several Arab states. The presence of Al Qaeda in Syria has been admitted by both the US and British governments, whilst al-Assad's claims that Islamic terrorists are behind the worst violence have been either ignored or dismissed by the West.

The role of foreign intervention is described in the interview as "significant" by al-Assad, which he said was more harmful than any mistakes that had been made by the Syrian government.

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This article first appeared at ResistRadio.com

Edited by Steven Gaal
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Well is ASSad says so it must be true.

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If WashPo says its true its tru....... never mind

http://mediamatters.org/research/2005/11/16/will-wash-post-editorial-page-retract-pre-and-p/134237

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If Cheney says its true its tru.........never mind

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/20/declassified-document-contradicts-cheneys-claim-of-iraqi-connection-to-911/

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If defector says its true its tru........never mind

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02/16/iraqi-defector-admits-lying-wmd-topple-saddam-hussein-1754593540/

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If Bush lips are moving http://pearly-abraham.tripod.com/htmls/bush-lies.html#twenty-one (never mind)

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Who does have credibility ????????????????

http://www.transcend.org/tms/2012/07/the-evil-of-humanitarian-wars/

OR

About Tim Schmucker @ MCC Ottawa Office

Mennonite Central Committee's Ottawa Office witnesses to government on issues of peace, justice and human dignity that arise out of MCC's work at home and around the world. We work with a number of coalitions while trying to bring a unique, Anabaptist perspective to the work of political engagement. MCC Ottawa is motivated by the conviction that loving our neighbours compels us to witness to government.

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Credibility and truth-telling: Why MCC Middle East visits Ottawa yearly

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Posted on June 6, 2012 by Tim Schmucker @ MCC Ottawa Office Guest blog posting by Daryl Byler.

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Cindy and I have served as MCC representatives for programs in Iran, Iraq, Jordan and Palestine/Israel since 2007. Every year we spend four to six weeks visiting the MCC advocacy offices (Ottawa, the United Nations and Washington, D.C.) and speaking in Mennonite schools and churches in Canada and the United States.

Is speaking in North America an effective use of our time when there is so much work to do in the Middle East? Aren’t there school kits to deliver, and water and peacebuilding projects to attend to?

For MCC partners in the Middle East, education and advocacy in Canada and the United States is a high priority.

They rightly believe that the Western media does not offer a full and accurate picture of the realities on the ground in the Middle East.

Too often, for example, the media highlights suicide bombings or other individual acts of violence

without mentioning structural violence like military occupation, house demolitions, land confiscation and sweeping economic sanctions.

Furthermore, MCC partners remind us that the policies of the Canadian and U.S. governments have consequences for the lives of ordinary Middle Eastern folks.

They want policymakers to be aware of the implications of their decisions.

In early 2010 we traveled to Gaza with the leaders of MCC’s three advocacy offices. One of MCC’s partners there told us pointedly that

his organization did not want MCC’s money for health care and job training projects if we are unwilling to do advocacy highlighting the economic blockade that suffocates life for many Palestinians in Gaza.

The chairperson of MCC’s Palestine advisory committee recently shared a similar sentiment. Samia Khoury, a Palestinian educator who has been a tireless voice for justice and peace, expressed great appreciation for MCC’s 63-year presence in the region.

But she added a word of caution.

“I wish to emphasize how important (it is) that the prophetic courageous voice of MCC is heard (in North America),” Samia urged.

“Otherwise MCC work in our region would be a cover up for the reality on the ground that can go on forever with no hope for liberation, and MCC will lose its credibility and purpose of being in the region.”

In our visits in Ottawa last week, May 28 and 29, we had an opportunity to meet with Members of Parliament and other policymakers, articulating the concerns of MCC’s Middle Eastern partners and listening to the perspectives of Canadian officials.

Later, we spent several days interacting with MCC constituents across Alberta, again sharing the stories and perceptions of MCC partners in the Middle East.

This kind of public engagement augments MCC’s work on the ground. It also allows us to return to the Middle East and share information with MCC partners about the broad spectrum of views that North Americans have about the Middle East.

Credibility and truth-telling: this is why we yearly visit Ottawa, Washington, and churches across Canada and the U.S.

By J. Daryl Byler, MCC Representative for Jordan, Iran, Iraq and Palestine

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My latest

Well is ASSad says so it must be true.

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Assad has an obvious vested interest his claims are inherently suspect

If WashPo says its true its tru....... never mind

http://mediamatters....re-and-p/134237

Do you fail to understand the difference between editorial and journalistic content? The WaPo is hardly the only media outlet whose reporting contradicts your fantasies.

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If Cheney says its true its tru.........never mind

http://www.rawstory....nection-to-911/

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If defector says its true its tru........never mind

http://www.foxnews.c...ein-1754593540/

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Uuuuh, that guy was Iraqi, I guess Gaal thinks all Arabs are a like. But even if he were Syrian this would be a logical fallacy 'a Syrian defector lied, thus Syrian defectors can not be trusted' Shall we judge all American evangelical Christians based on the Westboro Baptist Church?

If Bush lips are moving http://pearly-abraha...html#twenty-one (never mind)

Bush, Cheney? When have I ever cited them as reliable sources anywhere, let alone on this thread? Lame strawman.

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Who does have credibility ????????????????

http://www.transcend.org/tms/2012/07/the-evil-of-humanitarian-wars/

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About Tim Schmucker @ MCC Ottawa Office

Mennonite Central Committee's Ottawa Office witnesses to government on issues of peace, justice and human dignity that arise out of MCC's work

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