Steven Gaal Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) You're better at insulting that then presenting evidence. +++++++++++++++++++ Well I put up the video in post # 44 for a reason. You did not make any intelligent comment (as I thought you might not ). AND AND IM taking on the whole MSM narrative re Syria. (AND AND YOU SWALLOW MSM whole). +++++++++++++++++++ OK LETS EDUCATE +++++++++++++++++++ Al Jazeera , literally "The Island", abbreviating "The [Arabian] Peninsula"), also known as Aljazeera and JSC (Jazeera Satellite Channel), is a broadcaster owned by the privately held Al Jazeera Media Network and headquartered in Doha, Qatar. (wiki) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Why Qatar wants to invade Syria By Pepe Escobar Global Research, September 27, 2012 Asia Times http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-qatar-wants-to-invade-syria/5306223 (few links in blue words at link) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Make no mistake; the Emir of Qatar is on a roll. What an entrance at the UN General Assembly in New York; Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani called for an Arab coalition of the willing-style invasion of Syria, no less. [1] In the words of the Emir, “It is better for the Arab countries themselves to interfere out of their national, humanitarian, political and military duties, and to do what is necessary to stop the bloodshed in Syria.” He stressed Arab countries had a “military duty” to invade. What he means by “Arab countries” is the petromonarchies of the Gulf Counter-Revolution Club (GCC), previously known as Gulf Cooperation Council – with implicit help from Turkey, with which the GCC has a wide-ranging strategic agreement. Every shisha house in the Middle East knows that Doha, Riyadh and Ankara have been weaponizing/financing/providing logistical help to the various strands of the armed Syrian opposition engaged in regime change. The Emir even quoted a “similar precedent” for an invasion, when “Arab forces intervened in Lebanon” in the 1970s. By the way, during a great deal of the 1970s the Emir himself was engaged in more mundane interventions, such as letting his hair down alongside other Gulf royals in select Club Med destinations, as this photo attests (he’s the guy on the left). So is the Emir now preaching an Arab version of the R2P (“responsibility to protect”) doctrine advanced by The Three Graces of Humanitarian Intervention (Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice and Samantha Power)? This is certainly bound to go down well in Washington – not to mention Ankara and even Paris, considering French president Francois Hollande has just called for UN protection of “liberated zones” in Syria. As for the Emir’s Lebanon precedent, that’s not exactly uplifting, to say the least. The so-called Arab Deterrent Force of 20,000 soldiers that entered Lebanon to try to contain the civil war overstayed its welcome by no less than seven years, turned into a Syrian military occupation of northern Lebanon, left officially in 1982 and still the civil war kept raging. Imagine a similar scenario in Syria – on steroids. A ‘pretty influential guy’ As for the Emir’s humanitarian – not to mention democratic – ardor, it’s enlightening to check out what US President Barack Obama thinks about it. Obama – who defines the Emir as a “pretty influential guy” – seems to imply that even though “he himself is not reforming significantly” and “there’s no big move towards democracy in Qatar”, just because the emirate’s per capita income is humongous, a move towards democracy is not so pressing. So let’s assume the Emir is not exactly interested in turning Syria into Scandinavia. That opens the way to an inevitable motive – connected to, what else, Pipelineistan. Vijay Prashad, author of the recent Arab Spring, Libya Winter, is currently writing a series on the Syria Contact Group for Asia Times Online. He got a phone call from an energy expert urging him to investigate “the Qatari ambition to run its pipelines into Europe.” According to this source, “the proposed route would have run through Iraq and Turkey. The former transit country is posing to be a problem. So much easier to go north (Qatar has already promised Jordan free gas).” Even before Prashad concludes his investigation, it’s clear what Qatar is aiming at; to kill the US$10 billion Iran-Iraq-Syria gas pipeline, a deal that was clinched even as the Syria uprising was already underway. [2] Here we see Qatar in direct competition with both Iran (as a producer) and Syria (as a destination), and to a lesser extent, Iraq (as a transit country). It’s useful to remember that Tehran and Baghdad are adamantly against regime change in Damascus. The gas will come from the same geographical/geological base – South Pars, the largest gas field in the world, shared by Iran and Qatar. The Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline – if it’s ever built – would solidify a predominantly Shi’ite axis through an economic, steel umbilical cord. Qatar, on the other hand, would rather build its pipeline in a non-”Shi’ite crescent” way, with Jordan as a destination; exports would leave from the Gulf of Aqaba to the Gulf of Suez and then to the Mediterranean. That would be the ideal plan B as negotiations with Baghdad become increasingly complicated (plus the fact the route across Iraq and Turkey is much longer). Washington – and arguably European customers – would be more than pleased with a crucial Pipelineistan gambit bypassing the Islamic Gas Pipeline. And of course, if there’s regime change in Syria – helped by the Qatari-proposed invasion – things get much easier in Pipelineistan terms. A more than probable Muslim Brotherhood (MB) post-Assad regime would more than welcome a Qatari pipeline. And that would make an extension to Turkey much easier. Ankara and Washington would win. Ankara because Turkey’s strategic aim is to become the top energy crossroads from the Middle East/Central Asia to Europe (and the Islamic Gas Pipeline bypasses it). Washington because its whole energy strategy in Southwest Asia since the Clinton administration has been to bypass, isolate and hurt Iran by all means necessary. [3] That wobbly Hashemite throne All this points to Jordan as an essential pawn in Qatar’s audacious geopolitical/energy power play. Jordan has been invited to be part of the GCC – even though it’s not exactly in the Persian Gulf (who cares? It’s a monarchy). One of the pillars of Qatar’s foreign policy is unrestricted support for the MB – no matter the latitude. The MB has already conquered the presidency in Egypt. It is strong in Libya. It may become the dominant power if there’s regime change in Syria. That brings us to Qatar’s help to the MB in Jordan. At the moment, Jordan’s Hashemite monarchy is wobbly – and that’s a transcendental understatement. There’s a steady influx of Syrian refugees. Compound it with the Palestinian refugees that came in waves during the crucial phases of the Arab-Israeli war, in 1948, 1967 and 1973. Then add a solid contingent of Salafi-jihadis fighting Damascus. Only a few days ago one Abu Usseid was arrested. His uncle was none other than Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the infamous former head of al-Qaeda in Iraq, killed in 2006. Usseid was about to cross the desert from Jordan to Syria. Amman has been mired in protests since January 2011 – even before the spread of the Arab Spring. King Abdullah, also known as King Playstation, and photogenic Washington/Hollywood darling Queen Rania, have not been spared. The MB in Jordan is not the only player in the protest wave; unions and social movements are also active. Most protesters are Jordanians – who historically have been in control of all levels of state bureaucracy. But then neo-liberalism reduced them to road kill; Jordan went through a savage privatization drive during the 1990s. The impoverished kingdom now depends on the IMF and extra handouts from the US, the GCC and even the EU. Parliament is a joke – dominated by tribal affiliation and devotion to the monarchy. Reforms are not even cosmetic. A prime minister was changed in April and most people didn’t even noticed it. In an Arab world classic, the regime fights demands for change by increasing repression. Into this quagmire steps Qatar. Doha wants King Playstation to embrace Hamas. It was Qatar that promoted the meeting in January between the King and Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal – who had been expelled from Jordan in 1999. That left indigenous Jordanians wondering whether the kingdom would be swamped by yet another wave of Palestinian refugees. Arab media – most of it controlled by the House of Saud – has been drowning in stories and editorials predicting that after the MB ascends to power in Damascus, Amman will be next. Qatar, though, is binding its time. The MB wants Jordan to become a constitutional monarchy; then they will take over politically after an electoral reform that King Abdullah has been fighting against for years. Now the MB can even count on the support of Bedouin tribes, whose traditional allegiance to the Hashemite throne has never been wobblier. The regime has ignored protests at its own peril. The MB has called for a mass demonstration against the King on October 10. The Hashemite throne is going down, sooner rather than later. It’s unclear how Obama would react – apart from praying that nothing substantial happens before November 6. As for the Emir of Qatar, he has all the time in the world. So many regimes to fall – and become Muslim Brothers; so many pipelines to build. Notes: 1. Qatar’s emir calls for Arab-led intervention in Syria, The National, Sep 26, 2012. 2. Syria’s Pipelineistan war, Al Jazeera, Aug 6, 2012. 3. Qatar: Rich and Dangerous, Oilprice.com, Sep 17, 2012. Pepe Escobar is the author of Globalistan: How the Globalized World is Dissolving into Liquid War (Nimble Books, 2007) and Red Zone Blues: a snapshot of Baghdad during the surge. His most recent book is Obama does Globalistan (Nimble Books, 2009). +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DOES THE MSM EVER COVER THIS IDEA ??? (and its only part of reasons for the Syrian action) DOES THE MSM EVER COVER THIS IDEA ??? DOES THE MSM EVER COVER THIS IDEA ??? DOES THE MSM EVER COVER THIS IDEA ??? DOES THE MSM EVER COVER THIS IDEA ??? NOPE NEVER (Gaal) WE DONT FIGHT FOR SELF INTEREST WE ONLY FIGHT FOR FREEDOM ,genuflect,genuflect.........(MSM SWALLOWER) Edited March 17, 2013 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 LOL if you want “intelligent comment” in response to your posts you should refrain from making insults in them. And you've jumped all over the place on this thread and this video is not especially relevant, no evidence was presented Al-Jazeera skewed their Syrian coverage or that is influential in the West. How ironic that one of Escobar's three cited sources is from Al-J! There is a distinct lack of documentation for his claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) Qatar's Agenda in Syria By Editorial Dept | Fri, 01 February 2013 20:15 | Oilprice.com Situation: Qatar continues to funnel weapons and facilitate other assistance to Syrian rebels and Salafi jihadists fighting the Assad regime in Syria. Bottom Line: Determining the outcome of the conflict in Syria is very difficult due to the sheer number of private players in this theater and the varying agendas. Determining the extent to which Qatar is willing to go is made easier by understanding what it wishes to achieve: Global stature—and a pipeline through Syria. Analysis: Right before the conflict in Syria broke out, Iran had cut a deal with Iraq for an Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline to pump natural gas from the world’s largest gas field, South Pars, which is shared by Qatar and Iran. Qatar could not allow this to happen. It would have given Iran the upper hand in its perceived quest to form a “Shi’ite crescent”. Qatar wanted the pipeline first. Qatar’s original plan was a pipeline from South Pars through Iraq and on to Turkey, and then to European markets. This pipeline, however, would have to traverse southern/central Iraq and Northern Iraq. This has become problematic due to the oil-resources power struggle between the Kurds of Northern Iraq and the Iraqi central government. A pipeline through Syria would be much easier. It would also be convenient for Jordan, which has apparently been promised free Qatari gas for its help in training Syrian rebels on its territory and allowing them to use Jordanian territory to launch offensives… +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ IRAN-IRAQ: Pipeline to Syria Ups Ante in Proxy War with Qatar By Editorial Dept | Fri, 22 February 2013 Bottom Line: Iraq’s agreement to allow Iran to build a pipeline through its territory and on to Syria is in direct competition with Qatar’s similar designs for a Syria pipeline that would connect to Turkey. This pipeline is another proxy in the Syrian conflict theater and Iran’s response to its loss of ground here. It is also a sign of Iran’s growing foothold in Iraq. Qatar will respond in kind. Analysis: This week the Iraqi Cabinet green lighted Iran’s $10 billion pipeline project, which will supply gas from the South Pars field (which is the largest in the world, and which, as mentioned above, it shares with Qatar) to Syria and beyond to other export markets. There is talk of extending the pipeline to Lebanon. The first part of the pipeline—some 225 kilometers—through Iraq will reportedly be completed in June 2013. The pipeline will connect the southern Iranian port of Assolouyeh to Iraq and then to Syria—for now. It will have a 110 million cubic meter/day capacity. The plan is to give Iraq 20 million cubic meters/day of Iranian gas for its power plants, with 20-25 million cubic meters/day going to Syria. In a direct slap in the face to Qatar’s plans, Iraqi authorities also said the pipeline could eventually be extended to Europe. This is where it gets quite interesting: the current sanctions regime of course would not allow this Iranian gas into the European market, but it certainly will be… ########################### Im sorry I assumed you know common facts re Syria/Al-Jazeera news coverage. BAD ME ! LOTS OF EDUCATION NEEDED I SEE. Al Jazeera reporter resigns over "biased" Syria coverage | Al Akhbar ...english.al-akhbar.com/node/4941Cached Mar 8, 2012 – Al Jazeera Arabic's Beirut correspondent, Ali Hashem, resigned on Tuesday after leaked emails revealed his frustrations over the news ... In Syria, al Jazeera's Credibility Implodes » Counterpunch: Tells the ...www.counterpunch.org/.../in-syria-al-jazeeras-credibility-implodes/Cached ... today and get. CounterPunch by email for only $35 per year. March 05, 2012. The guy who runs al Jazeera's Syrian coverage is the brother of a SNC bigwig ... Al-Jazeera's political independence questioned amid Qatar ...www.guardian.co.uk › Media › Al-JazeeraCached Sep 30, 2012 – Al-Jazeera English journalists protest after being ordered to re-edit UN ... its English channel's coverage of the debate on Syrian intervention. Edited March 17, 2013 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Since Iraq only OKed the pipeline last month this does make sense as a motive for the civil war which began 2 years ago. Since Iranian gas exports are sanctioned it would seem if Qatar was really serious their pipeline would be more viable. And there was no clear reason both pipelines could not be built. The main point of the rest of the post was that Al-Jazeera supposedly named the brother of a high ranlink SNC official to run their Syrian desk. Such claims all trace back to the Lebanese paper Al-Akhbar. From Wikipedia: Marwan Hamadeh, 14 March deputy, labelled al-Akhbar as a pro-Hezbollah newspaper.[9] The New York Times and Wall Street Journal also described the paper as being pro-Hezbollah and "left-wing".[10][11] Ibrahim al Amine, editorial chairman of Al Akhbar, says the paper is intended for “the U.S. ambassador to wake up in the morning, read it and get upset.”[12] The former U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon, Jeffrey Feltman, said that the paper did get his attention, but not in the way that al Amine had hoped. In a letter to the New York Times, Feltman said: "Mr. Amine did get my attention, but not in the way he intended. The hilariously erroneous accounts of my activities reported as fact in his newspaper provoked morning belly laughs."[13] The New York Times criticized it for 'too much reliance on single sources, and news pages that often show a loose mingling of fact, rumor and opinion."[10] Journalist Mark Ashurst described it as a "newspaper with close links to the government of President Bashar al-Assad of Syria" Even if we were to assume the paper really was an honest broker the documentation for the claim were supposed e-mails hacked from Al-Jazeera's main by the “Syrian Electronic Army” there were no direct quotes or even paraphrases from the supposed e-mails nor were any specific like the dates, senders or recipients given. So all we have is one questionable source citing another, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 And there was no clear reason both pipelines could not be built.?? END COLBY SUPER HUH ?? PLANET EARTH TO COLBY THE ANGOLAMERICAN-NATO ESTABLISHMENT DOESNT WANT TO HELP IRAN AT THIS TIME. +++++++++++ Bottom Line: Iraq’s agreement to allow Iran to build a pipeline through its territory and on to Syria is in direct competition ==================================================== The New York Times //END Coly quote ??????????? THE WHOLE ESTABLISHMENT WANTS A NEW GOVERNMENT IN SYRIA> As I SAID THE WHOLE MSM IS WRONG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 And there was no clear reason both pipelines could not be built.?? END COLBY SUPER HUH ?? PLANET EARTH TO COLBY THE ANGOLAMERICAN-NATO ESTABLISHMENT DOESNT WANT TO HELP IRAN AT THIS TIME. +++++++++++ Bottom Line: Iraq’s agreement to allow Iran to build a pipeline through its territory and on to Syria is in direct competition And since Iranian gas is banned in the EU the Qatari pipeline would seem to be more viable if they really wanted to push it. You also ignore that the Iranian one was only approved last month so could not have been a motive for the war. ==================================================== The New York Times //END Coly quote ??????????? THE WHOLE ESTABLISHMENT WANTS A NEW GOVERNMENT IN SYRIA> As I SAID THE WHOLE MSM IS WRONG. Besides the Times three other sources cited by Wikipedia indicated the paper was tied to Hezbollah or Assad. Two of them the NYT and WSJ predated the claim in Al-Akhbar. Here are two more, the the 1st came out before the article in question the 2nd after: "Hezbollah-backed daily, Al-Akhbar" http://www.majalla.com/eng/2011/02/article2330 "anti-American, pro-Hezbollah daily Al-Akhbar" http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/hezbollah-under-pressure I guess you will claim all 6 were lying but the fact that a group closely allied to, if not actually a part of the Assad regime, gave them the supposed e-mails reinforces the notion of a link. And you ignore that there is a credibility problems with supposed data supplied by hackers who are closely aliened to a party in a conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 Qatari pipeline would seem to be more viable if they really wanted to push it.// end Colby ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ QATARI PIPLINE ONLY OCCURS IF SYRIAN GOVERNMENT CHANGES BY CROOK OR BY CROOK (TO CHANGE THE PHRASE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Consider the following: “The Trans-Arabian Pipeline (Tapline), was an oil pipeline from Qaisumah in Saudi Arabia to Sidon in Lebanon...Since the 1967 Six-Day War, the section of the pipeline which runs through the Golan Heights came under Israeli control, though the Israelis permitted the pipeline's operation to continue. After years of constant bickering between Saudi Arabia and Syria and Lebanon over transit fees, the emergence of oil supertankers, and pipeline breakdowns, the section of the line beyond Jordan ceased operation in 1976.” http://en.wikipedia....rabian_Pipeline In other words Assad Sr. allowed a pipeline to follow from Syria to Lebanon through the Golan Heights! The Saudis, Jordanians and Lebanese also had no problem using a pipeline that went through Israeli occupied territory. And the following: The Arab Gas Pipeline is a natural gas pipeline in the Middle East. It exports Egyptian natural gas to Jordan, Syria and Lebanon, with a branch underwater pipeline to Israel. It has a total length of 1,200 kilometres (750 mi) at a cost of US$1.2 billion.[1] As of March 2012, the gas supply to Israel stopped due to 13 separate attacks on GASCO's feeder pipeline to El-Arish that have taken place since the beginning of the 2011 Egyptian revolution—carried out by Bedouin complaining of economic neglect and discrimination by the central Cairo government http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Gas_Pipeline In other words like his dad Assad Jr. had no qualm about getting gas from the Egyptian regime which had made peace with Israel and worse through a pipeline that also supplied Israel the occupier of the Golan Heights. So why would they say no to the Qataris especially if they were to get a nice payoff? Who will the fabled Iranian pipeline sell gas to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) Syria, Turkey, Israel and the Greater Middle East Energy War By F. William Engdahl Global Research, October 11, 2012 On October 3, 2012 the Turkish military launched repeated mortar shellings inside Syrian territory. The military action, which was used by the Turkish military, conveniently, to establish a ten-kilometer wide no-man’s land “buffer zone” inside Syria, was in response to the alleged killing by Syrian armed forces of several Turkish civilians along the border. There is widespread speculation that the one Syrian mortar that killed five Turkish civilians well might have been fired by Turkish-backed opposition forces intent on giving Turkey a pretext to move militarily, in military intelligence jargon, a ‘false flag’ operation.[1] Turkey’s Muslim Brotherhood-friendly Foreign Minister, the inscrutable Ahmet Davutoglu, is the government’s main architect of Turkey’s self-defeating strategy of toppling its former ally Bashar Al-Assad in Syria.[2] According to one report since 2006 under the government of Islamist Sunni Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and his pro-Brotherhood AKP party, Turkey has become a new center for the Global Muslim Brotherhood.[3] A well-informed Istanbul source relates the report that before the last Turkish elections, Erdogan’s AKP received a “donation” of $10 billion from the Saudi monarchy, the heart of world jihadist Salafism under the strict fundamentalist cloak of Wahabism. [4] Since the 1950’s when the CIA brought leading members in exile of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood to Saudi Arabia there has been a fusion between the Saudi brand of Wahabism and the aggressive jihadist fundamentalism of the Brotherhood.[5] The Turkish response to the single Syrian mortar shell, which was met with an immediate Syrian apology for the incident, borders on a full-scale war between two nations which until last year were historically, culturally, economically and even in religious terms, closest of allies. That war danger is ever more serious. Turkey is a full member of NATO whose charter explicitly states, an attack against one NATO state is an attack against all. The fact that nuclear-armed Russia and China both have made defense of the Syrian Bashar al-Assad regime a strategic priority puts the specter of a World War closer than most of us would like to imagine. In a December 2011 analysis of the competing forces in the region, former CIA analyst Philip Giraldi made the following prescient observation: NATO is already clandestinely engaged in the Syrian conflict, with Turkey taking the lead as U.S. proxy. Ankara’s foreign minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, has openly admitted that his country is prepared to invade as soon as there is agreement among the Western allies to do so. The intervention would be based on humanitarian principles, to defend the civilian population based on the “responsibility to protect” doctrine that was invoked to justify Libya. Turkish sources suggest that intervention would start with creation of a buffer zone along the Turkish-Syrian border and then be expanded. Aleppo, Syria’s largest and most cosmopolitan city, would be the crown jewel targeted by liberation forces. Unmarked NATO warplanes are arriving at Turkish military bases close to Iskenderum on the Syrian border, delivering weapons from the late Muammar Gaddafi’s arsenals as well as volunteers from the Libyan Transitional National Council who are experienced in pitting local volunteers against trained soldiers, a skill they acquired confronting Gaddafi’s army. Iskenderum is also the seat of the Free Syrian Army, the armed wing of the Syrian National Council. French and British special forces trainers are on the ground, assisting the Syrian rebels while the CIA and U.S. Spec Ops are providing communications equipment and intelligence to assist the rebel cause, enabling the fighters to avoid concentrations of Syrian soldiers.[6] Little noted was the fact that at the same day as Turkey launched her over-proportional response in the form of a military attack on Syrian territory, one which was still ongoing as of this writing, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) undertook what was apparently an action to divert Syria’s attention from Turkey and to create the horror scenario of a two-front war just as Germany faced in two world wars. The IDF made a significant troop buildup on the strategic Golan Heights bordering the two countries, which, since Israel took it in the 1967 war, has been an area of no tension.[7] The unfolding new phase of direct foreign military intervention by Turkey, supported de facto by Israel’s right-wing Netanyahu regime, curiously enough follows to the letter a scenario outlined by a prominent Washington neo-conservative Think Tank, The Brookings Institution. In their March 2012 strategy white paper, Saving Syria: Assessing Options for Regime Change, Brookings geo-political strategists laid forth a plan to misuse so-called humanitarian concern over civilian deaths, as in Libya in 2011, to justify an aggressive military intervention into Syria, something not done before this.[8] The Brookings report states the following scenario: Israel could posture forces on or near the Golan Heights and, in so doing, might divert regime forces from suppressing the opposition. This posture may conjure fears in the Assad regime of a multi-front war, particularly if Turkey is willing to do the same on its border and if the Syrian opposition is being fed a steady diet of arms and training.[9] This seems to be precisely what is unfolding in the early days of October 2012. The authors of the Brookings report are tied to some of the more prominent neo-conservative warhawks behind the Bush-Cheney war on Iraq. Their sponsor, the Saban Center for Middle East Policy, includes current foreign policy advisers to Republican right-wing candidate Mitt Romney, the open favorite candidate of Israel’s Netanyahu. The Brookings Saban Center for Middle East Policy which issued the report, is the creation of a major donation from Haim Saban, an Israeli-American media billionaire who also owns the huge German Pro7 media giant. Haim Saban is open about his aim to promote specific Israeli interests with his philanthropy. The New York Times once called Saban, “a tireless cheerleader for Israel.” Saban told the same newspaper in an interview in 2004, “I’m a one-issue guy and my issue is Israel.” [10] The scholars at Saban as well as its board have a clear neo-conservative and Likud party bias. They include, past or present, Shlomo Yanai, former head of military planning, Israel Defense Forces; Martin Indyk, former US Ambassador to Israel and founder of the pro-Israel Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), a major Likud policy lobby in Washington. Visiting fellows have included Avi Dicter, former head of Israel’s Shin Bet; Yosef Kupperwasser, former Head, Research Department, Israeli Defense Force’s Directorate of Military Intelligence. Resident scholars also include Bruce Riedel, a 30 year CIA Middle East expert and Obama Afghan adviser; [11] Kenneth Pollack, another former CIA Middle East expert who was indicted in an Israel espionage scandal when he was a national security official with the Bush Administration. [12] Why would Israel want to get rid of the “enemy she knows,” Bashar al-Assad, for a regime controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood? Then Israel’s security would seemingly be threatened by the emergence of hard-line Muslim Brotherhood regimes in Egypt to her south and Syria to her North, perhaps soon also in Jordan. The geopolitical dimension The significant question to be asked at this point is what could bind Israel, Turkey, Qatar in a form of unholy alliance on the one side, and Assad’s Syria, Iran, Russia and China on the other side, in such deadly confrontation over the political future of Syria? One answer is energy geopolitics. What has yet to be fully appreciated in geopolitical assessments of the Middle East is the dramatically rising importance of the control of natural gas to the future of not only Middle East gas producing countries, but also of the EU and Eurasia including Russia as producer and China as consumer. Natural gas is rapidly becoming the “clean energy” of choice to replace coal and nuclear electric generation across the European Union, most especially since Germany’s decision to phase out nuclear after the Fukushima disaster. Gas is regarded as far more “environmentally friendly” in terms of its so-called “carbon footprint.” The only realistic way EU governments, from Germany to France to Italy to Spain, will be able to meet EU mandated CO2 reduction targets by 2020 is a major shift to burning gas instead of coal. Gas reduces CO2 emissions by 50-60% over coal.[13] Given that the economic cost of using gas instead of wind or other alternative energy forms is dramatically lower, gas is rapidly becoming the energy of demand for the EU, the biggest emerging gas market in the world. Huge gas resource discoveries in Israel, in Qatar and in Syria combined with the emergence of the EU as the world’s potentially largest natural gas consumer, combine to create the seeds of the present geopolitical clash over the Assad regime. Syria-Iran-Iraq Gas pipeline In July 2011, as the NATO and Gulf states’ destabilization operations against Assad in Syria were in full swing, the governments of Syria, Iran and Iraq signed an historic gas pipeline energy agreement which went largely unnoticed amid CNN reports of the Syrian unrest. The pipeline, envisioned to cost $10 billion and take three years to complete, would run from the Iranian Port Assalouyeh near the South Pars gas field in the Persian Gulf, to Damascus in Syria via Iraq territory. Iran ultimately plans then to extend the pipeline from Damascus to Lebanon’s Mediterranean port where it would be delivered to EU markets. Syria would buy Iranian gas along with a current Iraqi agreement to buy Iranian gas from Iran’s part of South Pars field. South Pars, whose gas reserves lie in a huge field that is divided between Qatar and Iran in the Gulf, is believed to be the world’s largest single gas field. [14] De facto it would be a Shi’ite gas pipeline from Shi’ite Iran via Shi’ite-majority Iraq onto Shi’ite-friendly Alawite Al-Assad’s Syria. Adding to the geopolitical drama is the fact that the South Pars gas find lies smack in the middle of the territorial divide in the Persian Gulf between Shi’ite Iran and the Sunni Salafist Qatar. Qatar also just happens to be a command hub for the Pentagon’s US Central Command, headquarters of United States Air Forces Central, No. 83 Expeditionary Air Group RAF, and the 379th Air Expeditionary Wing of the USAF. In brief Qatar, in addition to owning and hosting the anti-Al-Assad TV station Al-Jazeera, which beams anti-Syria propaganda across the Arab world, Qatar is tightly linked to the US and NATO military presence in the Gulf. Qatar apparently has other plans with their share of the South Pars field than joining up with Iran, Syria and Iraq to pool efforts. Qatar has no interest in the success of the Iran-Iraq-Syria gas pipeline, which would be entirely independent of Qatar or Turkey transit routes to the opening EU markets. In fact it is doing everything possible to sabotage it, up to and including arming Syria’s rag-tag “opposition” fighters, many of them Jihadists sent in from other countries including Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Libya. Further adding to Qatar’s determination to destroy the Syria-Iran-Iraq gas cooperation is the discovery in August 2011 by Syrian exploration companies of a huge new gas field in Qara near the border with Lebanon and near to the Russian-leased Naval port of Tarsus on the Syrian Mediterranean.[15] Any export of Syrian or Iranian gas to the EU would go through the Russian-tied port of Tarsus. According to informed Algerian sources, the new Syrian gas discoveries, though the Damascus government is downplaying it, are believed to equal or exceed those of Qatar. As Asia Times’ knowledgeable analyst Pepe Escobar pointed out in a recent piece, Qatar’s scheme calls for export of its huge gas reserves via Jordan’s Gulf of Aqaba, a country where a Muslim Brotherhood threat to the dictatorship of the King is also threatening. The Emir of Qatar has apparently cut a deal with the Muslim Brotherhood in which he backs their international expansion in return for a pact of peace at home in Qatar. A Muslim Brotherhood regime in Jordan and also in Syria, backed by Qatar, would change the entire geopolitics of the world gas market suddenly and decisively in Qatar’s favor and to the disadvantage of Russia, Syria, Iran and Iraq. [16] That would also be a staggering negative blow to China. As Escobar points out, “it’s clear what Qatar is aiming at: to kill the US$10 billion Iran-Iraq-Syria gas pipeline, a deal that was clinched even as the Syria uprising was already underway. Here we see Qatar in direct competition with both Iran (as a producer) and Syria (as a destination), and to a lesser extent, Iraq (as a transit country). It’s useful to remember that Tehran and Baghdad are adamantly against regime change in Damascus.” He adds, “if there’s regime change in Syria – helped by the Qatari-proposed invasion – things get much easier in Pipelineistan terms. A more than probable Muslim Brotherhood (MB) post-Assad regime would more than welcome a Qatari pipeline. And that would make an extension to Turkey much easier.” [17] The Israeli Gas dilemma Further complicating the entire picture is the recent discovery of huge offshore Israeli natural gas resources. The Tamar natural gas field off the coast of northern Israel is expected to begin yielding gas for Israel’s use in late 2012. The game-changer was a dramatic discovery in late 2010 of an enormous natural gas field offshore of Israel in what geologists call the Levant or Levantine Basin. In October 2010 Israel discovered a massive “super-giant” gas field offshore in what it declares is its Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ). [18] The find is some 84 miles west of the Haifa port and three miles deep. They named it Leviathan after the Biblical sea monster. Three Israeli energy companies in cooperation with the Houston Texas Noble Energy announced initial estimates that the field contained 16 trillion cubic feet of gas—making it the world’s biggest deep-water gas find in a decade, adding more discredit to “peak oil” theories that the planet is about to see dramatic and permanent shortages of oil, gas and coal. To put the number in perspective, that one gas field, Leviathan, would hold enough reserves to supply Israel’s gas needs for 100 years.[19] Energy self-sufficiency had eluded the state of Israel since its founding in 1948. Abundant oil and gas exploration had repeatedly been undertaken with meager result. Unlike its energy-rich Arab neighbors, Israel seemed out of luck. Then in 2009 Israel’s Texas exploration partner, Noble Energy, discovered the Tamar field in the Levantine Basin some 50 miles west of Israel’s port of Haifa with an estimated 8.3 tcf (trillion cubic feet) of highest quality natural gas. Tamar was the world’s largest gas discovery in 2009. Source: Jerry Gordon, newenglishreview.org 2011 Israel discovered huge gas in Levantine Basin with Noble Energy. Source: Noble Energy map, see above ________________________________________________________________________________________________________ At the time, total Israeli gas reserves were estimated at only 1.5 tcf. Government estimates were that Israel’s sole operating field, Yam Tethys, which supplies about 70 percent of the country’s natural gas, would be depleted within three years. With Tamar, prospects began to look considerably better. Then, just a year after Tamar, the same consortium led by Noble Energy struck the largest gas find in its decades-long history at Leviathan in the same Levantine geological basin. Present estimates are that the Leviathan field holds at least 17 tcf of gas. Israel went from a gas famine to feast in a matter of months.[20] Now Israel faces a strategic and very dangerous dilemma. Naturally Israel is none too excited to see al-Assad’s Syria, linked to Israel’s arch foe Iran and Iraq and Lebanon, out-compete an Israeli gas export to the EU markets. This could explain why Israel’s Netanyahu government has been messing inside Syria in the anti-al-Assad forces. However, a Muslim Brotherhood rule in Syria led by the organization around Mohammad Shaqfah would confront Israel with far more hostile neighbors now that the Muslim Brotherhood coup by Egypt’s President Mohamed Morsi has put a hostile regime on Israel’s southern border. It is no secret that there is enmity bordering on hate between Netanyahu and the Obama Administration. The Obama White House and US State Department openly back the Muslim Brotherhood regime changes in the Middle East. Hillary Clinton’s meeting with Turkey’s Davutoglu in August this year was reportedly aimed at pushing Turkey to escalate its military intervention into Syria, but without direct US support owing to US election politics of wanting to avoid involvement in a new Middle East debacle.[21] State Department Deputy Chief of Staff Huma Abedin has been accused by several Republican Congress Representatives of ties to organizations controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood. Dalia Mogahed, Obama’s appointee to the Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, also a member of the US advisory council of the Department of Homeland Security, is openly linked to the Muslim Brotherhood and an open foe of Israel as well as calling for the toppling of Syria’s al-Assad. [22] Obama’s Washington definitely seems to be backing the Muslim Brotherhood horse in the race for control of the gas flows of the Middle East. And the Russian role Washington is walking a temporary tightrope hoping to weaken al-Assad fatally while not appearing directly involved. Russia for its part is playing a life and death game for the future of its most effective geopolitical lever—its role as the leading natural gas supplier to the EU. This year Russia’s state-owned Gazprom began delivery of Russian gas to northern Germany via Nord Stream gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea from a port near St. Petersburg. Strategically vital now for the future role of Russia as an EU gas supplier, is its ability to play a strategic role in exploiting the new-found gas reserves of its former Cold war client state, Syria. Moscow has long been engaged in promoting its South Stream gas pipeline into Europe as an alternative to the Washington Nabucco pipeline which was designed to leave Moscow out in the cold. [23] Already Gazprom is the largest natural gas supplier to the EU. Gazprom with Nord Stream and other lines plans to increase its gas supply to Europe this year by 12% to 155 billion cubic meters. It now controls 25% of the total European gas market and aims to reach 30% with completion of South Stream and other projects. Rainer Seele, chairman of Germany’s Wintershall, the Gazprom partner in Nord Stream, suggested the geopolitical thinking behind the decision to join South Stream: “In the global race against Asian countries for raw materials, South Stream, like Nord Stream, will ensure access to energy resources which are vital to our economy.” But rather than Asia, the real focus of South Stream lies to the West. The ongoing battle between Russia’s South Stream and the Washington-backed Nabucco is intensely geopolitical. The winner will hold a major advantage in the future political terrain of Europe.[24] Now a major new option of Syria as a major source for Russian-managed gas flows to the EU has emerged. If al-Assad survives, Russia will be in the position as savior to play a decisive role in developing and exploiting the Syrian gas. Israel, where Russia also has major cards to play, could theoretically shift to back a Russian-Syrian-Iraqi-Iran gas consortium were Israel and Iran to reach some modus vivendi on the nuclear and other issues, not impossible were the political constellation in Israel to change after the coming elections. Turkey, which is presently in a deep internal battle between Davutoglu and President Gül on the one side and Erdogan on the other, is dependent on Russia’s Gazprom for some 40% of gas to its industry. Were Davutoglu and his faction to lose, Turkey could play a far more constructive role in the region as transit country for Syrian and Iranian gas. The battle for the future control of Syria is at the heart of this enormous geopolitical war and tug of war. Its resolution will have enormous consequences for either world peace or endless war and conflict and slaughter. NATO member Turkey is playing with fire as is Qatar’s Emir, along with Israel’s Netanyahu and NATO members France and USA. Natural gas is the flammable ingredient that is fueling this insane scramble for energy in the region. F. William Engdahl is author of Myths, Lies and Oil Wars. He may be contacted through www.williamengdahl.com . Notes [1] Reuters, Turkish artillery strikes on Syria continue for second day: Several Syrian soldiers killed in overnight attack; Turkey launched artillery strikes after mortar bomb fired from Syria killed five Turkish civilians, October 4, 2012. Accessed in http://www.haaretz.c...nd-day-1.468142 [2] Hüsnü Mahalli, Davutoglu Betting on the Fall of Assad, Al Akhbar English, August 7, 2012, accessed in http://english.al-akhbar.com. [3] Steven G. Merley, Turkey, the Global Muslim Brotherhood, and the Gaza Flotilla, Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, 2011, accessed in http://www.jcpa.org/...Brotherhood.pdf. See also for more ties between Erdogan’s Turkish AKP and the Musllim Brotherhood, GlobalMB, Syrian Ambassador Names Associate Of Turkish Prime Minister As Muslim Brotherhood Leader, May 25, 2011, accessed in http://globalmbreport.org/?p=4496 [4] The figure of $10 billion was relayed in a private discussion with the author by a Turkish businessman and political figure who asked to remain anonymous. Indian diplomats, including H.E. Gajendra Singh, former Ambassador to Ankara, have independently confirmed Saudi funding of the Turkish AKP. Presumably like most $10 billion cash grants, it came with heavy strings attached from Riyhad. [5] F. William Engdahl, Salafism+CIA: The winning formula to destabilize Russia, the Middle East, Voltairenet.org, 13 September, 2012, accessed in http://www.voltairen...icle175801.html [6] Philip Giraldi, NATO vs Syria, December 19, 2011, The American Conservative, accessed in http://www.theameric.../nato-vs-syria/. [7] Linda Gradstein, Israel fears Syrian violence spilling over Golan Heights border, October 4, 2012, accessed inhttp://news.national...heights-border/ [8] Daniel Byman, Michael Doran, Kenneth Pollack, and Salman Shaikh, Saving Syria: Assessing Options for Regime Change, The Brookings Institution, Washington D.C., March 2012, accessed in http://www.scribd.co...315-Syria-Saban [9] Ibid., p. 6. [10] Andrew Ross Sorkin, Schlepping to Moguldom, September 5, 2004, accessed in http://www.nytimes.c...t&position&_r=0; see also Source Watch, Haim Saban, accessed in http://www.sourcewat...itle=Haim_Saban. [11] M. J. Rosenberg, AIPAC Cutout: The Rise & Fall Of The Washington Institute For Near East Policy, Talking Points Memo (TPM), 11 April 2010, accessed in http://cosmos.ucc.ie....php?aid=126218 [12] Nathan Guttman, Bush officials subpoenaed in AIPAC trial, Jerusalem Post, March 13, 2006, accessed in http://www.jpost.com...e.aspx?id=15860 [13] Alexander Medvedev, Role of Gas in a Sustainable Energy Future, 2nd Ministerial Gas Forum, Doha, Qatar, 30 November, 2010. [14] Hassan Hafidh and Benoit Faucon, Iraq, Iran, Syria Sign $10 Billion Gas-Pipeline Deal, The Wall Street Journal, July 25, 2011, accessed in http://online.wsj.co...1289250392.html [15] Daily Star, Syria Announces Gas Discovery, August 17, 2011, accessed in http://www.naturalga...s-gas-discovery. [16] Pepe Escobar, Why Qatar Wants to Invade Syria, Asia Times, September 27, 2012, accessed in http://www.atimes.co...t/NI28Ak03.html. [17] Ibid. [18] F. William Engdahl, The New Mediterranean Oil and Gas Bonanza – Part 1: Israel’s Levant Basin—a new geopolitical curse?, VoltaireNet.org, 20 February, 2012, accessed in http://www.voltairen...icle172827.html [19] Ibid. [20] Ibid. [21] The Economist, Turkey’s political in-fighting: Erdogan at bay: The Turkish prime minister faces new enemies both at home and abroad, Feb 25th 2012; see also Hillary Clinton, Remarks With Foreign Minister Davutoglu After Their Meeting, Conrad Hotel Istanbul, Turkey, August 11, 2012, accessed in http://www.state.gov...2/08/196358.htm [22] CSP, Center Report Reveals Radical Islamist Views and Agenda of Senior State Department Official Huma Abedin’s Mother, Washington, Center for Security Policy, July 22, 2012, accessed in http://www.centerfor....xml?genre_id=3. See also Aaron Klein, Muslim Brotherhood endorses Obama faith adviser: Gives thumbs up to ‘Sister Mogahed’ for Twitter post on dead journalist, WorldNetDaily, April 29, 2012, accessed on http://www.wnd.com/2...-faith-adviser/. [23] F. William Engdahl, Moscow’s High Stakes Energy Geopolitics, Voltairenet.org, 15 November, 2011, accessed in http://www.voltairen...icle171902.html [24] Ibid. Edited March 22, 2013 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) Syria, Turkey, Israel and the Greater Middle East Energy War By F. William Engdahl [...] Typical LaDouchite Krapola, many of the key claims are unsourced, others are sourced to questionable sources, some do not match the cited source. For example: CLAIM: “There is widespread speculation that the one Syrian mortar that killed five Turkish civilians well might have been fired by Turkish-backed opposition forces intent on giving Turkey a pretext to move militarily, in military intelligence jargon, a ‘false flag’ operation.[1]” SOURCE: “[1] Reuters, Turkish artillery strikes on Syria continue for second day: Several Syrian soldiers killed in overnight attack; Turkey launched artillery strikes after mortar bomb fired from Syria killed five Turkish civilians, October 4, 2012. Accessed in http://www.haaretz.c...nd-day-1.468142” TRUTH: The closest the Reuters article got to supporting Engdahl's “false flag” claim was: ...several Syrian soldiers were killed in the Turkish bombardment of a military post near the Syrian town of Tel Abyad... [...] It was not clear who fired the mortar into Turkey, but security sources said it had come from near Tel Abyad and that Turkey was increasing the number of troops along its border. "Our armed forces in the border region responded immediately to this abominable attack in line with their rules of engagement; targets were struck through artillery fire against places in Syria identified by radar," Erdogan's office said in a statement late on Wednesday. [...] Syria said it was investigating the source of the mortar bomb and urged restraint... So according to the cited source not even the Syrian gov't said it was the rebels or a false CLAIM: “Erdogan’s AKP received a “donation” of $10 billion from the Saudi monarchy [4]” SOURCE: “[4] The figure of $10 billion was relayed in a private discussion with the author by a Turkish businessman and political figure who asked to remain anonymous. Indian diplomats, including H.E. Gajendra Singh, former Ambassador to Ankara, have independently confirmed Saudi funding of the Turkish AKP. Presumably like most $10 billion cash grants, it came with heavy strings attached from Riyhad.” TRUTH: A conveniently anonymous source making it impossible to determine if Engdahl didn’t make him up or distort what he said or to access his credibility. No evidence is provided for the claim Singh “confirmed” this. According an online bio he “served as ambassador to Turkey and Azerbaijan from August 1992 to April 1996”, the AKP was only formed 5 plus years later in Aug. 2001. http://mwcnews.net/c...e/Gajendra.html http://en.wikipedia....t_Party_(Turkey) CLAIM: “Further adding to Qatar’s determination to destroy the Syria-Iran-Iraq gas cooperation is the discovery in August 2011 by Syrian exploration companies of a huge new gas field in Qara near the border with Lebanon and near to the Russian-leased Naval port of Tarsus on the Syrian Mediterranean.[15]” SOURCE: “[15]Daily Star, Syria Announces Gas Discovery, August 17, 2011.” TRUTH: We are never told why the new Syrian gas field would “[ad] to Qatar’s determination to destroy the Syria-Iran-Iraq gas cooperation.” The Daily Star cited AFP which in turn cited the Syrian Oil Minister, how convenient! CLAIM: “According to informed Algerian sources, the new Syrian gas discoveries, though the Damascus government is downplaying it, are believed to equal or exceed those of Qatar.” SOURCE: No footnote. TRUTH: So more conveniently anonymous sources making it impossible to determine if Engdahl didn’t make them up or distort what they said or to access their credibility, we are not even told if the “informed Algerian sources” were ever in Syria or worked in the energy sector. The Syrian gov’t Oil Minister (see the Star article) only claimed: ‘…“the flow rate is 400,000 cubic meters per day”…Syria’s natural gas production has reached 30.29 million cubic meters per day… The nation’s gas reserves, estimated at 284 billion cubic meters, may increase after new discoveries in many parts of the country’ To make a long story short the new field only increased production by 1.3% and Syria’s total reserve is only 0.6% that of South Pars. I doubt the field in Syria is really 1 million times the size announced by the gov’t. CLAIM: “Since the 1950’s when the CIA brought leading members in exile of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood to Saudi Arabia there has been a fusion between the Saudi brand of Wahabism and the aggressive jihadist fundamentalism of the Brotherhood.[5]” SOURCE: “[5] F. William Engdahl, Salafism+CIA: The winning formula to destabilize Russia, the Middle East, Voltairenet.org, 13 September, 2012, accessed inhttp://www.voltairen...icle175801.html” TRUTH: So the source is Engdahl himself! The part about the CIA bringing members of the MB to Saudi Arabia traces back to John Loftus whose thesis was that the CIA and other western intel. agencies engaged in a “Secret War Against the Jews.” While rejecting his conclusions conspiracy kooks conveniently pick and choose which of his unsourced claims to accept. I could go on and on but believe I’ve made my point. Engdahl never explained how developments that occurred after the beginning of the civil war could have caused it. Nor is the fact that Iranian gas is banned from the EU, which he said would be the primary market addressed. Edited March 22, 2013 by Len Colby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) http://www.liveleak....=bf6_1349732962 false flag AND camera ready ============================================================ Beneath the surface, however, Erdoğan was already working to replace Turkey’s stabilizing secularism with an Islamist social and foreign policy agenda. He replaced all members of Turkey’s powerful banking board with alumni of Islamic finance, most of whom, like current President Abdullah Gül, had cut their teeth in Saudi banks. Once under Islamist control, Erdoğan used the banking board to attack opponents’ assets, confiscating businesses and driving some into bankruptcy. AKP appointees, however, turned a blind eye to the influx of Saudi and Qatari money into AKP coffers and slush-funds.Other bureaucratic manipulations had even greaterRead more: http://dailycaller.c.../#ixzz2OGFwqWqi . Presumably like most $10 billion cash grants, it came with heavy strings attached from Riyhad.” end ColbyYEAH , LIKE ATTACK SYRIA !!!! ========================================== BLAH BLAH BLAH SIZE OF GAS FIELD......... QATAR WOULD LOVE TO HAVE Syrian pipeline. Brazil lacks large one piece bathing suits and I guess common sense. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The Politicization of American Islamby Husain Haqqani ( LaDouchite .... nope )Published on Tuesday, March 18, 2008REPORTS The third key development in the 1950s was Saudi Arabia’s emergence on the global scene and its desire for influence among the world’s Muslims. Hermann Eilts, who served as U.S. ambassador to Egypt and Saudi Arabia reports that, in the late 1940s, Hassan al-Banna and some of his closest associates used to travel to Saudi Arabia—not the Saudi Arabia of today, but a kingdom that was still just coming out the shadows of its early Wahhabi, non-modernist beginnings. The Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt, in particular, had ties with the Saudis. According to Eilts, Sheikh Mohammed Suroor Sabhan, a Sudanese, was Saudi deputy finance minister at the time and bore responsibility for providing money for the Muslim Brotherhood’s influence-building program.8 Now that Saudi funding was available, this collusion coincided nicely with the international agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood. All al-Banna and his associates had to do was persuade the Saudis that expanding into Europe and America was a significant opportunity and a worthwhile investment. The fourth issue that worked to the Brotherhood’s advantage during the 1950s was the Cold War. The U.S. was still trying to find its way in a very complex new world, and American policymakers were not necessarily aware of the complexities they were facing. They took a binary approach: the U.S. needed to contain communism, which also meant it needed to stop newly-independent Muslim countries from becoming friends of the Soviets. Thus, anybody the Americans could find to help in that process became a useful partner. This approach positioned the Saudis as key allies of the United States, and the Muslim Brotherhood was allied to the Saudis. Therefore, in the context of the Cold War, the U.S. and the Muslim Brotherhood seemed to be potential partners. The level of sophistication regarding the Middle East in the United States was very limited at this time (some would argue that it still is). For example, there was an education initiative called the “Red Pig” campaign. “Pig” is the symbol of dirt—and hence forbidden by Islam. Propagandists combined it with “red,” meaning communist, to create the phrase “Red Pig,” a simplistic term meant to convince Muslims that the communists were bad.9Another idea conceived by the Americans was to try to find a “Muslim Billy Graham.” The person most likely to be identified as a Muslim Billy Graham could only be someone who himself wanted to be identified as such; somebody eager for the funding and support needed to carry out his own crusade. Not surprisingly, one of the people who showed up to fill that role was a man by the name of Said Ramadan. He was the husband of Wafa al-Banna, who was the daughter of Hassan al-Banna. By 1953, Hassan al-Banna’s son-in-law was privileged to have a meeting in the Oval Office with Dwight Eisenhower, the President of the United States. In his role as a potential Muslim Billy Graham, some in Washington expected him to mobilize the Muslims of the world against the evil and atheism of communism.10 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++Engdahl is not a LaDouchite ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++GET BACK TO US WITH REAL RESEARCH Edited March 22, 2013 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 (edited) I HAVE CONTENDED THAT: CYBER ATTACK IS PERFECT FOR FALSE FLAG, CANT TELL WHO DOES ATTACK (SEEMS IM RIGHT see below) STRONGER INTERNET CENSORSHIP WOULD COME AFTER FALSE FLAG CYBER ATTACK ON USA South Korea misidentifies China as cyberattack origin In an embarrassing twist to a coordinated cyberattack on six major South Korean companies this week, investigators said Friday they wrongly identified a Chinese internet protocol address as the source. A joint team of government and private experts still maintains that hackers abroad were likely to blame, and many analysts suspect North Korea. But the error raises questions about investigators' ability to track down the source of an attack that shut down 32,000 computers Wednesday and exposed big internet security holes in one of the world's most wired, tech-savvy countries. South Korean investigators said Thursday that a malicious code that spread through the server of one of the hackers' targets, Nonghyup Bank, was traced to an IP address in China. Even then it was clear that the attack could have originated elsewhere because hackers can easily manipulate such data. Permalink Edited March 23, 2013 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I HAVE CONTENDED THAT: CYBER ATTACK IS PERFECT FOR FALSE FLAG, CANT TELL WHO DOES ATTACK (SEEMS IM RIGHT see below) STRONGER INTERNET CENSORSHIP WOULD COME AFTER FALSE FLAG CYBER ATTACK ON USA South Korea misidentifies China as cyberattack origin In an embarrassing twist to a coordinated cyberattack on six major South Korean companies this week, investigators said Friday they wrongly identified a Chinese internet protocol address as the source. A joint team of government and private experts still maintains that hackers abroad were likely to blame, and many analysts suspect North Korea. But the error raises questions about investigators' ability to track down the source of an attack that shut down 32,000 computers Wednesday and exposed big internet security holes in one of the world's most wired, tech-savvy countries. South Korean investigators said Thursday that a malicious code that spread through the server of one of the hackers' targets, Nonghyup Bank, was traced to an IP address in China. Even then it was clear that the attack could have originated elsewhere because hackers can easily manipulate such data. Permalink Flawed logic "country K accused country C of hacking therefore country U's claim it was hacked by country I was probably a false flag" or more simply 'X was wrong when accused Y therefore A is probably wrong when it accused B' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Colby Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) http://www.liveleak....=bf6_1349732962 false flag AND camera ready An easily faked video provided by a pro-Assad group. It appears to have been shot with a cellphone fairly close to the target but the involved towns are only a mile apart, Amazing that the FSA could get so close Syrian military post and attack Turkey without being noticed by the army, remember that the Syrian gov't claimed they did not know what had happemed. And the FSA would have to be pretty stupid to carryout a false flag then release a video. Beneath the surface, however, Erdoğan was already working to replace Turkey’s stabilizing secularism with an Islamist social and foreign policy agenda. He replaced all members of Turkey’s powerful banking board with alumni of Islamic finance, most of whom, like current President Abdullah Gül, had cut their teeth in Saudi banks. Once under Islamist control, Erdoğan used the banking board to attack opponents’ assets, confiscating businesses and driving some into bankruptcy. AKP appointees, however, turned a blind eye to the influx of Saudi and Qatari money into AKP coffers and slush-funds. Other bureaucratic manipulations had even greater Read more: http://dailycaller.c.../#ixzz2OGFwqWqi LOL Gaal channels far-right arch-Zionist neocons, uuh the irony. No citations. Even if true barely relevant since Rubin gave no indication as to the amount of money Presumably like most $10 billion cash grants, it came with heavy strings attached from Riyhad.” end Colby YEAH , LIKE ATTACK SYRIA !!!! Please don't falsely attribute Herr Engdahl's comments to me. I assume that was due to your difficulty with reading comprehension rather than malice. BLAH BLAH BLAH SIZE OF GAS FIELD Quite relevant because it goes to your source's credibility. ......... QATAR WOULD LOVE TO HAVE Syrian pipeline And you have yet to give a legitimate reason why Syria would not allowed it before the civil war. GAAL: "Brazil lacks large one piece bathing suits and I guess common sense." As noted you're better at insulting than making your case GAAL: The Politicization of American Islam by Husain Haqqani ( LaDouchite .... Gee Hudson Institute !) LOL Gaal channels neocons, ooh the irony. The only relevant bit was Hermann Eilts, who served as U.S. ambassador to Egypt and Saudi Arabia reports that, in the late 1940s, Hassan al-Banna and some of his closest associates used to travel to Saudi Arabia—not the Saudi Arabia of today, but a kingdom that was still just coming out the shadows of its early Wahhabi, non-modernist beginnings. The Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt, in particular, had ties with the Saudis. According to Eilts, Sheikh Mohammed Suroor Sabhan, a Sudanese, was Saudi deputy finance minister at the time and bore responsibility for providing money for the Muslim Brotherhood’s influence-building program.8 Now that Saudi funding was available, this collusion coincided nicely with the international agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood. No one disputes that members of the MB went to Saudi Arabia in the 40s and 50s; what's lacking is confirmation of Engdahl's claim the CIA brought them in and Eilts actually has al-Banna traveling to the kingdom well before Nasser's coup. GAAL: Engdahl is not a LaDouchite OK if you want to split hairs an “ex” LaDouchite but just how “ex” he really is is a matter of dispute. Even if he really broke with his 'ex' guru his worldview is still essentially the same. https://www.larouche..._ninth_fore.pdf http://www.ufppc.org...h-us-power.html http://laroucheplane...brary.UnityNow3 http://www.cbi.gov.c...ent/102153.html http://lists.econ.ut...rch/020161.html http://balder.org/ju...Russia-Jews.php GAAL: GET BACK TO US WITH REAL RESEARCH LOL Capt. Cut* N. Paste *but not read Edited March 24, 2013 by Len Colby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Gaal Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) Amazing that the FSA could get so close Syrian military post and attack Turkey without being noticed by the army, // END COLBY GEE IF THE COMMAND STAFF OF TURKISH ARMY IS WORKING WITH FSA < THEN FINDING RIGHT SPOT FOR FALSE FLAG VERY EASY !!!!!!! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Saudi deputy finance minister at the time and bore responsibility for providing money for the Muslim Brotherhood’s influence-building program. undisputed // USA WORING WITH MB in that time frame. researcher John Loftus, “during the 1950s, the CIA evacuated the Nazis of the Muslim Brotherhood to Saudi Arabia. Now, when they arrived in Saudi Arabia, some of the leading lights of the Muslim Brotherhood, like Dr Abdullah Azzam, became the teachers in the madrassas, the religious schools. And there they combined the doctrines of Nazism with this weird Islamic cult, Wahhabism.” [15] LOFTUS IS CREDIBLE TO ME +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ And you have yet to give a legitimate reason why Syria would not allowed it before the civil war. // END COLBY GOLLY RUSSIA DOES NOT WANT QATAR'S SUPER-AMOUNT OF GAS IN EUROPEAN MARKET...ASSAD OBEYED ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Sooooooo you found in MSM oil pipeline geopolitical analysis RE SYRIA ?? I ASSERT above ALMOST ZERO but the real main motivation for USA Syrian actions. FROM POST # 46 DOES THE MSM EVER COVER THIS IDEA ??? (and its only part of reasons for the Syrian action) DOES THE MSM EVER COVER THIS IDEA ??? DOES THE MSM EVER COVER THIS IDEA ??? DOES THE MSM EVER COVER THIS IDEA ??? DOES THE MSM EVER COVER THIS IDEA ??? ============================================= No LARGE ONE PIECE BATHING SUITS or COMMON SENSE FOUND IN BRAZIL , BUT ON THE ISSUE OF MSM COVERAGE OF PIPELINE POLITICS ......CRICKET SOUNDS A PLENTY. ****************************** Edited March 24, 2013 by Steven Gaal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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